TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. Clannad having/not having fillers is irrelevant to why people hate it. |
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TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. There's really no reason to hate an anime because of fillers... You can just skip them. Besides, first half of Clannad AS is pretty much filler. Its much more justified for hating an anime with shitty writing and bad characters. While this applies to both Naruto and Bleach, they aren't on the level of Clannad and SAO. Or some other shitty anime. |
Tavor said: agree, but that's why I won't put Clannad as mainstream hate. Every anime has its haters.TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. Clannad having/not having fillers is irrelevant to why people hate it. |
TheTaker said: Tavor said: agree, but that's why I won't put Clannad as mainstream hate. Every anime has its haters.TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. Clannad having/not having fillers is irrelevant to why people hate it. Of course any medium will have its haters. Still, if Clannad is ranked #5 (namely After Story) here at MAL, I'd say that's pretty mainstream... |
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Nidalee said: you can only speak for yourself, plenty of people hate Bleach and Naruto for the fillers. first half of Clannad AS sorry to say are not fillers, they are relevant to the growth and development of Tomoya.TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. There's really no reason to hate an anime because of fillers... You can just skip them. Besides, first half of Clannad AS is pretty much filler. Its much more justified for hating an anime with shitty writing and bad characters. While this applies to both Naruto and Bleach, they aren't on the level of Clannad and SAO. Or some other shitty anime. |
Tavor said: I think popularity is what mainstream is about. It's the mainstream, has the most people watching it, regardless of the quality. With that in mind Clannad has 10 anime that are more mainstream than it.TheTaker said: Tavor said: agree, but that's why I won't put Clannad as mainstream hate. Every anime has its haters.TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. Clannad having/not having fillers is irrelevant to why people hate it. Of course any medium will have its haters. Still, if Clannad is ranked #5 (namely After Story) here at MAL, I'd say that's pretty mainstream... |
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| I don't know why people would hate on Clannad. Maybe hipsters, but that is about it. The show was by no means good, but it wasn't bad either. It was average. If you hate it, it means that you probably had incredible expectations for it and were let down. Also, grouping a seinen slice of life with a shounen action/pseudo-romance... come on. You're just basically saying, "I'm a massive troll and I'm trying REALLY hard to bait." Why are people even giving this guy attention? |
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IntroverTurtle said: I think popularity is what mainstream is about. It's the mainstream, has the most people watching it, regardless of the quality. With that in mind Clannad has 10 anime that are more mainstream than it. Ah, that would make better sense then. |
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Tavor said: once again I agree, but its not the typical mainstream hate you get associated with fillers. I can only count the hate as dislike to Clannad than be put in a class of mainstream anime.TheTaker said: Tavor said: agree, but that's why I won't put Clannad as mainstream hate. Every anime has its haters.TheTaker said: people hate Bleach and Naruto cause of the fillers, Clannad got none. I have no reason to hate any. Clannad having/not having fillers is irrelevant to why people hate it. Of course any medium will have its haters. Still, if Clannad is ranked #5 (namely After Story) here at MAL, I'd say that's pretty mainstream... |
| I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Elfen Lied being #6 in popularity makes me want to cry.With that in mind Clannad has 10 anime that are more mainstream than it. |
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Exmortus420 said: It's a proven fact.I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. Once something reaches a certain level of popularity, it instantly becomes crap. No exceptions. Because.. sheep.. or something. |
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Exmortus420 said: I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. You lack underground stuff found on the DateYutaka's list. You have a rather popular anime in your favorite as well *cough TTGL *cough* |
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Tavor said: He's trolling...Exmortus420 said: I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. You lack underground stuff found on the DateYutaka's list. You have a rather popular anime in your favorite as well *cough TTGL *cough* All of his favorites are well known anime that are generally accepted as the cream of the crop. |
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| I love most mainstream stuff. Not because it's mainstream, but because I love it. A lot of it just happens to be mainstream (and likely for a reason). What amuses me are the people hating on mainstream stuff just because it's mainstream (thus trying to gain the appearance of nonconformity). You do realize that by hopping on the bandwagon of going against mainstream just because it's mainstrream means you're conforming. Don't worry about whether something is popular or not, like what you like and don't like what you don't like, then you'll be a true nonconformist. |
Sophilia said: Holybaptiser said: You're not the only one. It was enjoyable, but 6th...?IntroverTurtle said: Elfen Lied being #6 in popularity makes me want to cry.With that in mind Clannad has 10 anime that are more mainstream than it. I don't find that surprising to be honest. Nudity and blood everywhere can attract a lot of attention. Holybaptiser said: He's trolling... All of his favorites are well known anime that are generally known as accepted as the cream of the crop. Well, that sucks the fun out of it. |
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dperolio said: Yeah it's the same with me, there's a reason why they become mainstream.I love most mainstream stuff. Not because it's mainstream, but because I love it. A lot of it just happens to be mainstream (and likely for a reason). Tavor said: Me neither, that's something that a lot of people like because most countries don't make cartoons with gore and sex.I don't find that surprising to be honest. Nudity and blood everywhere can attract a lot of attention. |
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Tavor said: Exmortus420 said: I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. You lack underground stuff found on the DateYutaka's list. You have a rather popular anime in your favorite as well *cough TTGL *cough* wat dat? stuff like 69 pink riders is underground? |
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YorozuyaGinSan said: wat dat? Well, perhaps I used the wrong terminology. Basically I was saying he didn't have anime that was 'non-mainstream'. People like DateYutaka fish out a lot of old anime, even having them as favorites, which nowadays could be considered as being a 'hipster'. |
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Holybaptiser said: Tavor said: He's trolling...Exmortus420 said: I hate mainstream because its mainstream. And not just anime, all things mainstream suck. You lack underground stuff found on the DateYutaka's list. You have a rather popular anime in your favorite as well *cough TTGL *cough* All of his favorites are well known anime that are generally accepted as the cream of the crop. Ha Ha Ha you caught me. I like to be sarcastic when I'm drunk. Which is a lot of the time. In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP |
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Exmortus420 said: Ha Ha Ha you caught me. I like to be sarcastic when I'm drunk. Which is a lot of the time. In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP Dammit! Finding true hypocrites these days is hard. |
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Sophilia said: Tavor said: You're joking, right?Dammit! Finding true hypocrites these days is hard. Eh, sorta. Not_Biased sticks out so much here that I cannot really think of many others that pull out such hypocrisy that's easy to point out. Arguably though of course, he might be one of those "successful troll is successful" type of people. |
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Tavor said: Sophilia said: Tavor said: You're joking, right?Dammit! Finding true hypocrites these days is hard. Eh, sorta. Not_Biased sticks out so much here that I cannot really think of many others that pull out such hypocrisy that's easy to point out. Arguably though of course, he might be one of those "successful troll is successful" type of people. It depends, he is only a hypocrite if we take his posts seriously. If not, we can only call him a unfunny troll with good amount of free time. |
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Exmortus420 said: In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP Anyone I know doesn't like long animes. I don't get it. The longer, the better for me. I don't want them to ever end. The longer, the most attached to the characrers I become too. A 50,000 episode Death Note would be the best. |
dperolio said: Exmortus420 said: In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP Anyone I know doesn't like long animes. I don't get it. The longer, the better for me. I don't want them to ever end. The longer, the most attached to the characrers I become too. A 50,000 episode Death Note would be the best. But when the ends, the sadder you get. The more something good is attached to your life, it is sadder it is when it ends. But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. |
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012yArthur0 said: dperolio said: Exmortus420 said: In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP Anyone I know doesn't like long animes. I don't get it. The longer, the better for me. I don't want them to ever end. The longer, the most attached to the characrers I become too. A 50,000 episode Death Note would be the best. But when the ends, the sadder you get. The more something good is attached to your life, it is sadder it is when it ends. But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Which also makes it more memorable though. :) |
dperolio said: 012yArthur0 said: dperolio said: Exmortus420 said: In all seriousness though I don't really like long running animes like the ones in the OP Anyone I know doesn't like long animes. I don't get it. The longer, the better for me. I don't want them to ever end. The longer, the most attached to the characrers I become too. A 50,000 episode Death Note would be the best. But when the ends, the sadder you get. The more something good is attached to your life, it is sadder it is when it ends. But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Which also makes it more memorable though. :) Yeah. But it will depend if you feel proud for following it to the very end... or if you will feel sad to see it end. Anyway, look foward to it. |
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012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. |
| Personally, I just don't like anime that runs for hundreds of eps. Anime like that (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, etc) tend to be pretty shallow and cater to a young male audience. It has little to do with them being mainstream, though. I like plenty of popular anime. |
Megaton said: Personally, I just don't like anime that runs for hundreds of eps. Anime like that (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, etc) tend to be pretty shallow and cater to a young male audience. It has little to do with them being mainstream, though. I like plenty of popular anime. Those are 3 of my top 5 ish... I'm not that young though--- 24. I guess I'm just young at heart. :x |
dperolio said: Nothing wrong with liking it. To each his own. Just not my style. I'm sure I like tons of stuff that you'd hate.Megaton said: Personally, I just don't like anime that runs for hundreds of eps. Anime like that (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece, etc) tend to be pretty shallow and cater to a young male audience. It has little to do with them being mainstream, though. I like plenty of popular anime. Those are 3 of my top 5 ish... I'm not that young though--- 24. I guess I'm just young at heart. :x |
Baman said: 012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Oh wow... DBZ didn't have that if I remember, it was very popular. If anything, I can see people following OP style to the heart and go chaotic. |
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012yArthur0 said: I can see the anime industry imploding once One Piece finishes airing.Baman said: 012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Oh wow... DBZ didn't have that if I remember, it was very popular. If anything, I can see people following OP style to the heart and go chaotic. |
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Holybaptiser said: 012yArthur0 said: I can see the anime industry imploding once One Piece finishes airing.Baman said: 012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Oh wow... DBZ didn't have that if I remember, it was very popular. If anything, I can see people following OP style to the heart and go chaotic. Then my dream to actually contribute once in an anime is pretty much doomed. But I know a new shonen will take his place. After all, OP just took DBZ. We might see something even more different, like... CyberPirateZombieNinjaSamuraiHalfAngelHalfDemon Character that does something... |
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012yArthur0 said: Well One Piece has more story while DBZ was more fights. And I think One Piece is now way more popular than DBZ, surpassed in both size and fans.Baman said: 012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Oh wow... DBZ didn't have that if I remember, it was very popular. If anything, I can see people following OP style to the heart and go chaotic. 012yArthur0 said: One Piec actually has quite a few of those things.CyberPirateZombieNinjaSamuraiHalfAngelHalfDemon Character that does something... |
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IntroverTurtle said: 012yArthur0 said: Well One Piece has more story while DBZ was more fights. And I think One Piece is now way more popular than DBZ, surpassed in both size and fans.Baman said: 012yArthur0 said: Seeing how people make threads about being depressed when some normal 26+ series end, I'm sure we'll see suicides when OP finally lowers it's sails.But you shouldn't worry about that though, One Piece seems to end somewhere at 1100 episodes. Oh wow... DBZ didn't have that if I remember, it was very popular. If anything, I can see people following OP style to the heart and go chaotic. 012yArthur0 said: One Piec actually has quite a few of those things.CyberPirateZombieNinjaSamuraiHalfAngelHalfDemon Character that does something... Well, DBZ is old, many fans went to another series, and it's not really that interesting compared to the new ones and more mature anime. Not only that, some OP fans are also DBZ fans. |
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| Generally the longer something goes on the more the quality tends to go down, which is why I've never been one for shounens. At some point the later episodes just devalue the earlier ones, I mean look at DBZ The Saiyans are the greatest threat ever known! Freeza is the greatest threat ever known! The Androids are the greatest threat ever known! Cell is the greatest threat ever known, and we're serious this time! So on and so forth. |
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Shrabster said: Generally the longer something goes on the more the quality tends to go down, which is why I've never been one for shounens. At some point the later episodes just devalue the earlier ones, I mean look at DBZ The Saiyans are the greatest threat ever known! Freeza is the greatest threat ever known! The Androids are the greatest threat ever known! Cell is the greatest threat ever known, and we're serious this time! So on and so forth. Well, shonen just want to give some excuse to put more fists in the plot. Also, some strategy and traps can be very anti-climatic depending on how fast the boss dies. But I would like to see some of them in a shonen, then we can say that their brains aren't made of biceps. |
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012yArthur0 said: Shrabster said: Generally the longer something goes on the more the quality tends to go down, which is why I've never been one for shounens. At some point the later episodes just devalue the earlier ones, I mean look at DBZ The Saiyans are the greatest threat ever known! Freeza is the greatest threat ever known! The Androids are the greatest threat ever known! Cell is the greatest threat ever known, and we're serious this time! So on and so forth. Well, shonen just want to give some excuse to put more fists in the plot. Also, some strategy and traps can be very anti-climatic depending on how fast the boss dies. But I would like to see some of them in a shonen, then we can say that their brains aren't made of biceps. I think you would like Hunter x Hunter(the remake) then, that show prioritizes telling a unique good story more so than battles. The post below more or less summarizes the good points about the franchise and how it separates itself from the huge pile of shounen out there http://blog.hachimitsu.org/2011/09/25/why-you-should-watch-hunter-x-hunter-this-fall/ |
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Shrabster said: Generally the longer something goes on the more the quality tends to go down, which is why I've never been one for shounens. At some point the later episodes just devalue the earlier ones, I mean look at DBZ The Saiyans are the greatest threat ever known! Freeza is the greatest threat ever known! The Androids are the greatest threat ever known! Cell is the greatest threat ever known, and we're serious this time! So on and so forth. I was always wondering what would happen if someone like Frieza turned up about the time Vegeta and Nappa were supposed to turn up on Earth. It's just the way these things work, the enemies always turn up in a convenient order. Same can be said for most shounens though. Short answer: They all die lol...whether that would have been a more entertaining series remains up for debate. Though I for one loved DBZ when I was younger and still reminisce in nostalgia. |
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Anon123456 said: That's fucking stupid.I love Clannad but sometimes I wish it hadn't been made because it gets more slash than other animes in it's genre. |
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