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Sep 28, 2017 3:05 PM
#31
So I'm midway into chapter 2 (the victim was shown) and I got a lot to say about this game, both spoilers and non-spoilers. The game is really stylish for sure. The user interface, the layout of the word during the trials, everything screams style. It's not Persona 5 level stylish, but it comes close. And the cartoony and zany style of the previous games is present and amped-up to 11. The victim's reveal in the second chapter is a good example without spoiling much. Also, the first case was pretty complex and thoroughly enjoyable. Easily the best first case from a Danganronpa game. The trials are longer than the previous game too (intermissions between each cases make a return too). If each trial takes an average of 2-2.5 hours in Danganronpa 2, it will take 2.5-3 hours in Danganronpa V3. Also, those Scrum Debates are fun as hell! That music was gold. Hell, all the OST in this game is gold! Beautiful Lie and the new Closing Argument theme is top-notch. And it's not just about how good the music is, but also how well the music is placed. Literally, the right track plays at the right time, and it makes things more tense and thrilling. As someone who spent 9 months avoiding DRV3 spoilers, I'm surprised that I was able to avoid the spoiler about Kaede not being the protagonist. Her being the killer in the first trial was a huge, huge reveal. I don't think I've every truly felt despair whenever I played a DR game, but DRV3 changed that for me. And Rantaro being the victim was also unexpected. I thought he'll be more of an important character. I realized prior to starting the trial that it's likely that Kaede will get blamed for the murder since he seemed the most likely. Since the case was sort-of like a locked-room case, the murder could've only happened by using the vents, and the only person that fit that category was Kaede. But I wasn't actually expecting her to actually be the murderer. The switch in protagonists in between the trial caught me off guard. That's when I new shit was about to hit the fan. Oh well, I'm really excited to see how the story continues. I'll probably post my views on chapter 2 after I finish it. DieTown said: I really wished I made a save before attempting that escape mini-game. I wasn't expecting it to have limited tries, lol. And the worst part is that I actually made it to the last gate, but you need a couple of people if you want to open that gate since the gate is in a position where you're bound to get hit (so you basically use each character to slightly open the gate more and more).I've tried the super hard platforming minigame like 30 times already. |
Sep 29, 2017 7:10 PM
#32
Well I just finished it and... hoooly shit that ending lmao, I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like that in fiction before. Utterly absurd but I loved it for it xd I think up until that point it's more or less the same level as DR2 but... yeah the last trial takes it to a new level in more ways than one Funny how I ended up giving a higher score to DR3 than either of Dies Irae or SubaHibi for this year but oh well, can't argue with results I will say this though this has to be the last Danganronpa game after that ending though, but I can't think of a better way to end the franchise |
Sep 29, 2017 8:38 PM
#33
So, I finished the second chapter (which was great) and the third chapter (which was average). Is it just me, or does the third chapter in every Danganronpa game tend to be the weakest chapter? Anyways, I'm still really liking the game lot, particularly its characters and style. Spike Chunsoft really hit the nail with the characters. Almost all of them are really, really good and interesting. I'm not gonna judge all of the characters until the end since one of them could be a mastermind, lol. But I do want to talk about a certain character... Holy crap, Saihara is easily the best Danganronpa protagonist ever. For once I'm not playing a total dumbass. In the previous games, Naegi and Hinata tend to be pretty dumb at times. They tend to miss obvious clues and reveals, which really ruins the experience for me at time. And in both DR1 and 2, there's always that one "know-it-all" character that basically never lets the MC stand out. In the first game, Kirigiri basically knows everything, hints the most obvious stuff in the trials, and then says "You know what I'm talking about, right Naegi?". And in the second game, it was Komaeda who was the "know-it-all". It didn't matter how smart Naegi or Hinata is, because they'll never get the full credit. Saihara on the other hand is the smartest of the group, and it's clearly apparent. Considering how he's the Ultimate Detective, people depend on him and trust his instincts. And there's no asspull character who knows everything prior to a trial starting (though I still love Komaeda and Kirigiri, lol). Plus, Saihara's got a lot of complexity to him as a character. He's insecurities makes sense and his growth as a person is apparent. I'm so glad that others appreciate him as a character too, since he ranked first for a DRV3 character poll on MyNavi There's a lot of other great characters too, with Momota, Ouma and Keebo being my favorites, alongside with Saihara. Momota's a true bro, Ouma makes me laugh my ass off whenever he makes fun of Keebo and Iruma, and Keebo's is a joke and I love him for that. Seriously, Keebo's a waste of a robot that thinks too highly of himself. Every time he says "Dou desu ka" with that stupid sprite, I fucking die. I'm sure Keebo hates captchas since that "I'm not a robot" must trigger him. The entire internet might seem robophobic to him, lol. Chapter 2 was really, really interesting though. At first, the case seemed like a really hard one, but it made more sense later on. The case had me guessing until the very end. But the victim was a really well-handled character. The culprit was alright too. Also, I totally saw Harukawa's Ultimate Assassin title coming. Note to self: Every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game features two victims. Also, every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game is a disappointment. Seriously, the culprit was such a joke and the kilings weren't as elaborate. And I wasn't a big fan of the culprit and victims either. The trial truly ended midway, but they dragged it out for no reason. For once I actually felt like losing the Scrum Debate since Saihara was making a mistake by dragging it out. Though the trial and killing part was pretty underwhelming, everything else was fine. Harukawa and Yumeno are now pretty likable characters and I liked they're developement. Momota's whole ghost gag was actually pretty funny. Keebo constantly shining his light with those "DOU DESU KA?" was 10/10. And Iruma was called a cum dumpster by Ouma. Thanks to that, the chapter redeemed itself. |
GoldenDevilGamerSep 29, 2017 8:44 PM
Sep 30, 2017 12:53 AM
#34
GoldenDevilGamer said: Huh, I thought 2 was the weakest one by far. I figured out the culprit and the vast majority of how the crime was committed before the class trial had even started, which is not something I would normally be able to do in Danganronpa so it was a bit too easy and predictable for me. But yeah 2 and 3 are the relatively unimpressive trialsSo, I finished the second chapter (which was great) and the third chapter (which was average). Is it just me, or does the third chapter in every Danganronpa game tend to be the weakest chapter? The second half of the game is actually brilliant though. The 4th trial is probably the most heartbreaking one in any Danganronpa game and I just felt terrible over how that concludes. Then the 5th one starts to really push the limits of what is even theoretically possible to figure out on your own due to how absurd the solution is, but it was awesome (reminded me of the Komaeda/Chiaki trial I mean I figured out the culprit on my own but the truth of the world... not so much |
Sep 30, 2017 4:23 AM
#35
HaXXspetten said: Maybe I must've not been pay attention properly during the second trial. I almost completely forgot about theGoldenDevilGamer said: Huh, I thought 2 was the weakest one by far. I figured out the culprit and the vast majority of how the crime was committed before the class trial had even started, which is not something I would normally be able to do in Danganronpa so it was a bit too easy and predictable for me. But yeah 2 and 3 are the relatively unimpressive trialsSo, I finished the second chapter (which was great) and the third chapter (which was average). Is it just me, or does the third chapter in every Danganronpa game tend to be the weakest chapter? The second half of the game is actually brilliant though. The 4th trial is probably the most heartbreaking one in any Danganronpa game and I just felt terrible over how that concludes. Then the 5th one starts to really push the limits of what is even theoretically possible to figure out on your own due to how absurd the solution is, but it was awesome (reminded me of the Komaeda/Chiaki trial I mean I figured out the culprit on my own but the truth of the world... not so much cloth in the pool, which should be a dead giveaway, I've seen who the victim is in the fourth chapter and the class trial is about to start. This already looks like a really interesting case due to... the use of the virtual world. I already have a culprit in mind, but I'm not certain about it. Whoever the culprit is, I'll be pretty sad either way since I really like all of the remaining characters (maybe except Shirogane). But oh boy, the fifth case sounds like hype. Considering how my favorite chapter in a Danganronpa game tends to be the fifth one, I'm really excited to see how it goes. |
Sep 30, 2017 7:38 AM
#36
GoldenDevilGamer said: I didn't think of that either but it was still pretty obviousHaXXspetten said: Maybe I must've not been pay attention properly during the second trial. I almost completely forgot about theGoldenDevilGamer said: So, I finished the second chapter (which was great) and the third chapter (which was average). Is it just me, or does the third chapter in every Danganronpa game tend to be the weakest chapter? The second half of the game is actually brilliant though. The 4th trial is probably the most heartbreaking one in any Danganronpa game and I just felt terrible over how that concludes. Then the 5th one starts to really push the limits of what is even theoretically possible to figure out on your own due to how absurd the solution is, but it was awesome (reminded me of the Komaeda/Chiaki trial I mean I figured out the culprit on my own but the truth of the world... not so much cloth in the pool, which should be a dead giveaway, The setup with the two windows across the pool, the exact measurements of it and the "can't touch the water" elements together was already enough to make it pretty obvious that the crime would revolve around some sort of slingshot or rope between the two windows to get in and out of the crime scene. Furthermore the crime was only plausible for someone that had information of how the magic trick would play out (roughly at least) since before it was shown to the others. And since Kirumi was the one responsible for "fixing the curtains" a.k.a. opening the window as she pleases without anyone else noticing... I mean you could put two and two together pretty easily. The exact specifics of the magic trick and the piranhas was a bit less obvious but all that really matters is that Himiko somehow escaped from the tank. The specifics on that couldn't really change much regarding who the culprit of the crime was to me; that was a different mystery altogether But in any case yeah the last two trials are what really stood out in this game for their own reasons. The 5th one is a bit like the 5th one in DR2 in terms of complexity, and the last one is something Danganronpa has never even remotely done before -.^ |
Sep 30, 2017 12:00 PM
#37
I am just into Trial 4 but I have got to say that this game has TONS of callbacks and repeated tropes from its predecessors. I don't know if it's intentional or not but it is kinda ruining some moments for me. Safe to say, Chapter 1's twist was the stand-out so far. But I really, really love the cast this time round. Chapter 4 is turning out to be real hard because of how difficult it is to pinpoint my suspicion on anyone; except for one red herring. Getting all hyped up for the shitstorm of finale as stated by many guys on the net. I have seen only one tiny spoiler image but I wish my expectations still gets defied. |
Sep 30, 2017 2:10 PM
#38
Lol I've played through the entire game and the ending sucks... =T The first trial was a very interesting twist. The second trial was alright. The third trial was quite interesting. The fourth trial was also somewhat interesting. The fith trial was insane. The final trial was actually so bad. |
Oct 1, 2017 3:40 AM
#39
To buy or not to buy the PS4 version instead of waiting for the Vita one? That is the question |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 1, 2017 3:44 AM
#40
can I play this without going through previous games? |
Oct 1, 2017 3:55 AM
#41
6e6e6e said: There are a lot of tie-ins to the rest of the franchise so not reallycan I play this without going through previous games? |
Oct 1, 2017 10:14 AM
#42
6e6e6e said: Chapter 5 exposes the biggest twist in DR1 so only play this after playing its predecessors. can I play this without going through previous games? ZapplePie said: Hmm, I have heard plenty of contrasting reviews for it. Can't wait to play it.The final trial was actually so bad. |
Oct 1, 2017 10:37 AM
#43
John_2001 said: It's something you'll probably either love or hate simply because of how absurd it isZapplePie said: Hmm, I have heard plenty of contrasting reviews for it. Can't wait to play it.The final trial was actually so bad. I thought it was brilliant but I can understand why you'd say the opposite too. You'll see why soon enough |
Oct 1, 2017 4:00 PM
#44
So, I finished Chapter 4 and 5, and they were definitely top-tier Danganronpa chapters. Although Chapter 4 was kinda predictable and not as emotional as I thought it would be, the trial was still a lot of fun thanks to Ouma. Felt bad for the victim, but felt bad for everyone else too since the "truth" was hard to handle. Momota got a bit irritating during the trial. Just let Saihara do his thing, lol. Also, the use of the virtual world was a nice way to make the chapter feel different. Especially since DRV3 lacks a bit of originality in the other chapters. And thank god the Monokubs are gone... This is so far the best chapter is the game, however, it was also lacking in originality. This was clearly very similar chapter 5 from the second game. Ouma is literally Komaeda, just funnier and less charismatic. But the fact that the victim was unidentifiable during the entire trial made it a lot of fun. I guessed the victim from the start, but I still enjoyed how it played out. Unlike Komaeda's plan from DR2, Ouma's plan was pretty useless, thanks to Saihara. Also loved how Ouma played Monokuma and how Monokuma basically joined the trial. If the mastermind is one of the survivors, then I'm guessing it's Shirogane. I'll be happy as long as it's not Junko for the nth time. If it weren't for my midterms, I would've been binge-playing his. I don't think I'll be able to start the last chapter until Tuesday ;_; But anyways, I'll try to get the platinum trophy within two weeks. |
Oct 2, 2017 1:00 AM
#45
In the end I said FUCK IT and decided to just watch a playthrough while waiting for the game to come out in my town. HOW THE FLYING FIDGETY FUCK is fucking RANTARO the first victim. Somebody already spoiled the killer for me and I was surprised by that as well... but I really didn't expect Rantaro out of all people to be the first victim. I'm barely one chapter in and I've already lost one of my favorite boys. HOW. FUCK YOU KODAKA YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 7:55 AM
#46
Comic_Sans said: The shounen magazine VS Donald Trump joke we were talking about just an hour ago? Okay. I thought we started talking about a different joke for a moment. As for the victim, I think Kodaka is trying to subvert the expectations people have for the surviving cast members. |
Oct 2, 2017 12:17 PM
#47
Comments on the ending: This was one of a kind ending. Period. I think for that itself the creator should be commended. But the question arises now would be: Why in the actual fuck would a creator wager his works just to echo some cliched message? Did Kodaka wanted to feel D E S P A I R after trashing his own foundations? My mind is very confused after playing this so I will come up with better remarks later. Oh and BTW, DON'T PLAY THIS GAME BEFORE FINISHING AT LEAST DR1 AND SRD2. Still fuck the anime. |
Oct 2, 2017 5:42 PM
#48
This game is going to have a such a polarizing repsonse to its final chapter, but I am fully on the side of adoring it. I also want to say without a doubt V3 has my favorite protagonist in the franchise. I liked them alot before but chapter 6 they did stuff naegi and hinata never would have. I also stand the rival character Kokichi oma blows nagito and togami out of the water both in characterization and entertainment. Really I think the main cast of V3 is the best in the entire franchise even if I find the overall cast weaker. They are all just so much more fleshed out and relatable especially shuuichi. GoldenDevilGamer said: So, I finished the second chapter (which was great) and the third chapter (which was average). Is it just me, or does the third chapter in every Danganronpa game tend to be the weakest chapter? Anyways, I'm still really liking the game lot, particularly its characters and style. Spike Chunsoft really hit the nail with the characters. Almost all of them are really, really good and interesting. I'm not gonna judge all of the characters until the end since one of them could be a mastermind, lol. But I do want to talk about a certain character... Holy crap, Saihara is easily the best Danganronpa protagonist ever. For once I'm not playing a total dumbass. In the previous games, Naegi and Hinata tend to be pretty dumb at times. They tend to miss obvious clues and reveals, which really ruins the experience for me at time. And in both DR1 and 2, there's always that one "know-it-all" character that basically never lets the MC stand out. In the first game, Kirigiri basically knows everything, hints the most obvious stuff in the trials, and then says "You know what I'm talking about, right Naegi?". And in the second game, it was Komaeda who was the "know-it-all". It didn't matter how smart Naegi or Hinata is, because they'll never get the full credit. Saihara on the other hand is the smartest of the group, and it's clearly apparent. Considering how he's the Ultimate Detective, people depend on him and trust his instincts. And there's no asspull character who knows everything prior to a trial starting (though I still love Komaeda and Kirigiri, lol). Plus, Saihara's got a lot of complexity to him as a character. He's insecurities makes sense and his growth as a person is apparent. I'm so glad that others appreciate him as a character too, since he ranked first for a DRV3 character poll on MyNavi Shuuichi's popularity is a very relieving thing, i was worried he'd face backlash cause people wanted kaede as the protagonist and they would feel jipped. But thankfully Shuuichi stand on his own really well. I think hes by far the best protaognist cause he was very believable in his relationships with maki and kaito and you really just wanted to root for the guy after all the bullshit he suffers. I wont say too much, but chapter 6 elevates shuuichi to legendary status, you will understand. 6e6e6e said: This might actually be the worst danganronpa to start with, without going too much into it you will be completely and utterly dumbfounded by the game chapter 5 and up. Its not even like small callbacks or anything, not only does it spoil almost every twist in the first 2 games it completly relies on your knowledge of it too.can I play this without going through previous games? |
JizzyHitlerOct 2, 2017 5:49 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 5:44 PM
#49
I finished chapter one Kodaka is all I have to say. Please kill off the inventor chick and I might hate you slightly less... just kidding, I love you no matter what JizzyHitler said: He's cute and one of my favorites so far. Blowing the maddest madman Nagito Komaeda out of the water though? I find that hard to believe.I also stand the rival character Kokichi oma blows nagito and togami out of the water both in characterization and entertainment. |
Comic_SansOct 2, 2017 5:50 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 5:52 PM
#50
Comic_Sans said: I know its hard to believe but he really does. You'll come to understand but theres just so much more depth to him that wasnt present in the past rivals and he creates a dynamic simply unique to his personality. It also helps that hes just funny as shit and genuinely unpredictable cause hes not brought down by being tied to some hope gimmick. JizzyHitler said: He's cute and one of my favorites so far. Blowing the maddest madman Komaeda out of the water though? I find that hard to believe.I also stand the rival character Kokichi oma blows nagito and togami out of the water both in characterization and entertainment. Also even though i imagine you are, trust me, a rando on the internet, give Shuuichi his chance, theres a very good reason hes such a popular character despite being placed in such a stacked against him situation of people potentially hating his role. He is without a doubt my favorite protagonist |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 6:03 PM
#51
JizzyHitler said: I guess I'll just have to keep on watching the playthrough and see. So far my favorite boys are Ouma, Rantaro (yes, despite what happened) and Shinguji while my favorite girls are Maki, Angie and Kirumi.I know its hard to believe but he really does. You'll come to understand but theres just so much more depth to him that wasnt present in the past rivals and he creates a dynamic simply unique to his personality. It also helps that hes just funny as shit and genuinely unpredictable cause hes not brought down by being tied to some hope gimmick. Also even though i imagine you are, trust me, a rando on the internet, give Shuuichi his chance, theres a very good reason hes such a popular character despite being placed in such a stacked against him situation of people potentially hating his role. He is without a doubt my favorite protagonist Don't worry, I already like him Edit: I meant Kirumi, not Tsumugi |
Comic_SansOct 2, 2017 6:14 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 6:07 PM
#52
Comic_Sans said: I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a bit of a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. But really its up to you, i was with this franchise way back when it was just a playthrough on something awful getting crumbs of content weekly long before it ever got a hint of a western release so the walkthrough format works.JizzyHitler said: I guess I'll just have to keep on watching the playthrough and see. So far my favorite boys are Ouma, Rantaro (yes, despite what happened) and Shinguji while my favorite girls are Maki, Angie and Tsumugi.I know its hard to believe but he really does. You'll come to understand but theres just so much more depth to him that wasnt present in the past rivals and he creates a dynamic simply unique to his personality. It also helps that hes just funny as shit and genuinely unpredictable cause hes not brought down by being tied to some hope gimmick. Also even though i imagine you are, trust me, a rando on the internet, give Shuuichi his chance, theres a very good reason hes such a popular character despite being placed in such a stacked against him situation of people potentially hating his role. He is without a doubt my favorite protagonist Don't worry, I already like him |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 6:14 PM
#53
JizzyHitler said: Trust me, I really tried to wait, but I couldn't. I've watched playthroughs of other games that were even more "video gamey" and I don't mind already knowing the story once I finally manage to get a hold of it so I think I'll be fine.I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 2, 2017 6:17 PM
#54
Comic_Sans said: Its your decision, but ill restate things a bit more specifically, when i say it gets more video gamey it does some things....no other game has done is all ill say. If your familiar with yoko taro games its more in line with that. This is the big reason i actually urge you to wait cause i really dont think the final section is going to hold the same weight.JizzyHitler said: Trust me, I really tried to wait, but I couldn't. I've watched playthroughs of other games that were even more "video gamey" and I don't mind already knowing the story once I finally manage to get a hold of it so I think I'll be fine.I actually would really reccomend not watching the playthrough and playing the game even if it means a wait, DRV3 more so than other games is alot more of a legit game and the more it goes on it shows. I wont give away too much but I think chapter 6 might potentially make the game unadaptable to other media but video games, at least it will be weaker at best in a different format. This might be hard to believe, but even by danganronpa standards, V3 is really fucking crazy. Its a big reason the ending is very polarizing and will be very love it or hate it. I have seen more positivity about it though and think alot of people complaining while understandably see their position, are misconstruing and missing the point of alot of stuff. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 2, 2017 9:17 PM
#55
I just started the game and skipped all of the thread to ask: Is this thread safe to read to avoid spoilers? I just beat chapter 1. |
Oct 2, 2017 10:10 PM
#56
I'm getting Steam man, I need to play the Danganronpa games. All on my wishlist now hahaha, happy as fuck! |
Oct 2, 2017 10:26 PM
#57
Thrashinuva said: Well people should be doing spoiler tags at least but you can never know for sureI just started the game and skipped all of the thread to ask: Is this thread safe to read to avoid spoilers? I just beat chapter 1. |
Oct 2, 2017 11:42 PM
#58
For those of you who are planning to start the series with this game, that will be the worst decision of your life. You'll need to play the first two games (and even know the conclusion of the DR3 anime) to fully understand the ending of DRV3 So, I just finished Danganronpa V3. My reaction to the ending was this: What in the actual fuck did I just play? What the fuck? How the fuck did Kodaka write this without dying inside? As a long time Danganronpa fan (and I mean Project Zetsubou long), this ending to V3 was the most devastating, most infuriating, yet the most perfect ending this series could ever have. @HaXXspetten wasn't lying when he said that the ending is utterly absurd and easily polarized. I doubt there's any medium in this world that did what DRV3 did in its final chapter. It was both a middle finger and a thank you to Danganronpa fans. Prior to the last chapter of DRV3, I actually thought that the game was better than DR1, but inferior to DR2. But after finishing DR3, I don't even know what to think anymore. DR2 was my favorite VN of all time, and I don't know what to think about that anymore. Honestly, DRV3 makes you look at the series in a completely new light. Replaying the Danganronpa has basically become impossible for me. Hah, and I was planning on replaying these games for the plat trophies. That ain't happening in a loooooooong time, lol. Ugh, I really need to get into spoilers if I can unleash these emotions that I have inside me right now... I don't think I've ever heard of anything as meta as what DRV3 did. Danganronpa's a reality TV show, really? The events of Danganronpa 1, 2 and 3 (anime) were all a fabrication? A fucking lie? My favorite VN series was a lie? Kodaka, you fucking monster. I've never felt this Triggered (Happy Havoc) my entire life. I was in utter shock while playing the trial. Out of every possible outcome, something like this was the least expected. Seeing all those DR character telling me one by one that the previous events never were real... that really killed me. DRV3 isn't about hope and despair. It's about truth or lie. And the only way you can find the ultimate truth is by having true neutrality. There is no hope, there is no despair. All you need to succeed is the truth. This series is over. No way this is getting a sequel. This is the end of Danganronpa. I need to take a rest. Tbh, I feel like the people who disliked the ending didn't understand the true purpose of the ending and what Kodaka is trying to say to the fanbase. @Comic_Sans I can't force you or anything, but you'll be losing a lot by not experiencing this first hand. Trust me on this, this is not your typical Danganronpa game. Not because it has more gameplay elements, but because it does the unthinkable at the end of the game. And the only way to get affected by the unthinkable is by playing it yourself. After knowing the overall story of DRV3, it'll be hard to replay the game. DRV3 is probably one of the best game I've ever played, but I don't even want to look at this game right now. There is no fucking way I'm touching that game right now. Kodaka's a madman and we've been played. @JizzyHitler You were right man, Saihara's an excellent protagonist. Unlike the other two protagonists, Saihara denied both despair and hope, and has accepted truth. His breakdown, his complexity during the final trial makes his a top-tier character. He's not only my favorite character from DRV3, but he's also rivaling Komaeda as my favorite DR character. @Thrashinuva As long as you don't open the spoiler tags, you're fine on this thread... for now. |
Oct 2, 2017 11:57 PM
#59
I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:06 AM
#60
Pizzagun said: You don't need to be sorry. It might be a shocking, and even infuriating ending, but it's the riskiest and greatest ending the series could ever have. Whether I love it, whether I hate it, Kodaka had balls to come up with an ending like this. DRV3 is both a masterpiece and a piece of trash. And that's why I love it ;)I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:12 AM
#61
It was probably the most shocking VN ending I've seen since Ever17, for better or worse. I can understand both sides regarding whether you'll love it or hate it but at the very least I think you have to give the author a lot of respect for daring to do something so out of left field for what is most likely the ending of not just the game itself but the Danganronpa series as a whole. It kinda forces you into altering your perception of the whole franchise after all |
Oct 3, 2017 12:18 AM
#62
GoldenDevilGamer said: Pizzagun said: You don't need to be sorry. It might be a shocking, and even infuriating ending, but it's the riskiest and greatest ending the series could ever have. Whether I love it, whether I hate it, Kodaka had balls to come up with an ending like this. DRV3 is both a masterpiece and a piece of trash. And that's why I love it ;)I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Idk, greatest? As Haxxspetten said, Ever17 ending was shocking too but it was pulled off well imo, and it actually worked for the VN since that was the aspect which made the VN great and acclaimed. On the other hand I can understand the message of Kodaka but this felt like a cheap shock value at the very end, yeah props for pulling out something daring tho. |
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Oct 3, 2017 12:19 AM
#63
@JizzyHitler @GoldenDevilGamer Thanks, but like I said, I think I'll be fine. I've been able to experience heavy emotions before when just watching playthroughs (as long as there's not some annoying dude screaming in the background), e.g. when Maya Amano died the mastermind is one of Junko's minions, they win, the surviving cast members transcend into despair and the world goes to shit |
Comic_SansOct 3, 2017 12:24 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 12:27 AM
#64
@Comic_Sans let's just say it's not something you'll be able to guess because it's too absurd to ever even consider on your own |
Oct 3, 2017 12:40 AM
#65
HaXXspetten said: Now you're making me even more curious lmao. I'll try to finish chapter two today@Comic_Sans let's just say it's not something you'll be able to guess because it's too absurd to ever even consider on your own |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 1:55 AM
#66
All right, I am all sobered up now. Here we go: Before talking about the game, I want to specifically continue talking about this game's ending from my previous post. I would like to call this game's ending the Schrodinger's ending. Implies, it was fucking amazing and it was fucking trash. Why it's fucking amazing? 1) The characters at the end become more real than our previous set of cast; quite literally. 2) The social commentary, meta jokes and the unorthodox gameplay make the trial a treat to play. 3) The investigation was also pretty fun. Why it's fucking trash? 1) There are now plethora of plot holes. To name a few: How was Tsumugi NOT able to cosplay Kaede if they all turned into fiction? Was she faking cospox or is there any logical consistency to it at all? Monokuma's own words when providing the second motive in Chapter 1 were,"...All students forced to participate this killing game....". But now that we know our cast WANTED this killing game, then what does that mean? Did he just casually lie to us, the audience, once again or are we retconning the fuck out of the plot? 2)The.Fucking.Flashback.Light. The amnesia plot made a lot of sense in DR1, etc thanks to DR0 but here we are faced with a new literal plot device with no real explanation. Should I just assume "It's fiction so it's ok" shtick or should I actually criticize this plot point because it was rubbish? 3)The.Fucking.Argument.Armament. You really were this close to make me stop bothering about this game, Kodaka. Well done. (Obvious bias because I like to criticize more) Anyways, let's now leave the ending aside and talk about this game in general. Is it good? Ehhhhh.... Is it bad? Ehhhhh.... It did have its moments. I don't want to go into specifics. Opinions on the cast Kokichi was kind of better than Nagito and Junko in the crazy department. Gonta's ending was sad af. But he was a true gentleman till his death. Himiko didn't turn into Saionji. Maki was far better than Kirigiri if we are to take her as the main waifu of this game. But still, Kaito deserves her affection because that guy was fucking incredible till his death. Tsumugi was kind of cute but after her unmasking and henceforth her character turned to shit. Keebo finally got to show his badass side. Fuck the Ahego. Miu's was both cute and annoying. Kiyo seemed crazy from start but I softened up to him in Chapter 3....before he killed Tenko. Tenko was really cool and cute! Her degenerate male shtick got annoying pretty quick but I really liked how she loved and motivated Himiko. Angie was crazy and the "Atua said so" shit still pisses me off. Kirumi's character felt like a replica of Peko. But I still have a soft spot for these kinds of characters. Ryoma got cucked hard by Kodaka. Give me his backstory! Rantaro was weird but he seemed chill. Too bad I didn't get to spend time with him at all. Kaede was really inspiring the cast before Kaito took the spotlight. She was pretty bland otherwise. Shuichi was fucking amazing. I had loads of fun controlling him and smacking shitton of desks/fences/chairs into oblivion. The Monokubs were a nice addition. Favourites being Monodam and Monotaro. The mysteries themselves felt rehashed and boring but with the charming cast, I enjoyed them nonetheless. Favourite chapter has to be Chapter 4. The minigames were kinda fun but most of them were only there to overstretch the trail part. Time for the Verdict: Danganronpa V3 gets a good 6/10 from me. It's good and shit but it kind of ruins everything that came came before it. Aside from the controversial ending, it didn't much going aside from its lovely characters. Previous games and their rating (even including the anime): 1) Danganronpa - 6/10 2) Danganronpa 2 - 7/10 3) Danganronpa Another Episode - didn't play lol 4) Danganronpa 3 - 4/10 (Being verrry considerate here) Any rebuttals or agreements? Feel free to drop down a comment. Spoilers out! |
Oct 3, 2017 4:49 AM
#67
Pizzagun said: Which reminds me that I still need to play Ever17. I heard it really utilizes the VN format well. But honestly though, I can't think of a better ending for the series. An ending similar to the DR3 anime would work (all hope, no despair), but doing something shocking like this made the game feel more impactful. At first, I thought that the game lacked a bit of originality since some cases felt like a rehash of previous Danganronpa cases. But the ending proved to be the most original think the series has ever come up with. I agree, the ending was solely created for shock value. But if the shock value worked, then what should I be complaining about. Kodaka got the reaction he wanted out of me, so its fair game, lol.GoldenDevilGamer said: Pizzagun said: I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Idk, greatest? As Haxxspetten said, Ever17 ending was shocking too but it was pulled off well imo, and it actually worked for the VN since that was the aspect which made the VN great and acclaimed. On the other hand I can understand the message of Kodaka but this felt like a cheap shock value at the very end, yeah props for pulling out something daring tho. @Comic_Sans Even if I was given ten years to guess the ending of DRV3, I would've never guessed it right. It's just too absurd of an ending, even by Danganronpa standards XD |
GoldenDevilGamerOct 3, 2017 4:55 AM
Oct 3, 2017 6:31 AM
#68
I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:24 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 7:08 AM
#69
JizzyHitler said: I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it.I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. Yeah I get that DR1-3 are all games and anime in the V3 world. It's the fact that everything was fictional that shocked me. IDK why but it's hard for me to digest that. And about your kidnapping theory, they probably got kidnapped after auditioning. After being selected, I assume that Team Danganronpa just kidnaps the contestants. Of course this is all just my theory. I guess this plot-point is open to discussion. |
Oct 3, 2017 7:21 AM
#70
GoldenDevilGamer said: ] Yeah I get that DR1-3 are all games and anime in the V3 world. It's the fact that everything was fictional that shocked me. IDK why but it's hard for me to digest that. And about your kidnapping theory, they probably got kidnapped after auditioning. After being selected, I assume that Team Danganronpa just kidnaps the contestants. Of course this is all just my theory. I guess this plot-point is open to discussion. think the fact that kodaka outright urged people to find an inconsistency in the prologue kind of confirms we were just lied to by the game. Too many things start to add up once you notice the inconsistency. Especially once you consider shuuichi's final lines directly putting focus on the idea of the things we heard possibly being not entirely true. Keep in mind unlike junko Tsugumi didnt want to cause despair with the truth, she wanted to prolong the game through any lie possible and would say anything to get it to continue even down to cheating, Though what about DR1-3 being fictional makes it hard to digest? cause remember they still were completely real events not reconnected at all. The whole idea is just the franchise continued in something like our world till it eventually broke into a fucked reality show. I'd understand if the games said the original games were fiction like V3's reality show but it said the opposite which is why the first case files in shuuichi's room only have drawings not pictures. Basically what im trying to get at and what kodaka has thankfully cleared up on twitter, DR 1-3 were not fake, the world and story and all that was not made by the danganronpa team and their stories are over with a totally happy ending of DR3, its just playing with the idea that in V3's world things eventually spiral out of control due to franchise milking, though people are also pointing out there are actually hints that hopes peak did actually happen in v3's world and that a seperate orginizaiton is causing these new killing games. I saw alot of people saying it might be something akin to the future foundation cause they absolutely wouldnt let the game end with despair winning in chapter 6 no matter what even down to tsugumi doing a last minute heel face turn to try and salvage the vote.It really begs the question hard if everything she said was true why hope winning would be so important. |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:29 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 7:28 AM
#71
We're interrupting this program to bring you: Amazing localization jokes!!!!!!!!! https://imgur.com/a/FG12U |
Oct 3, 2017 7:55 AM
#72
I got to the trial prep before the last trial last night and now I have work. I just wanna uncover the secrets. Also Kokichi is best character |
chill out |
Oct 3, 2017 8:35 AM
#73
KhemTrailz said: Kokichi is a fucking legend and he only gets better once you look back at his actions with more knowledge.I got to the trial prep before the last trial last night and now I have work. I just wanna uncover the secrets. Also Kokichi is best character I really love how you come to understand He was actually being genuine when he was seemingly mocking the tragedies of student deaths, things like finding the first body and also kaede's death you look back and see him actually visibly distraught before trying to cover it up as a lie. Above all else he genuinely hated the killing game with every ounce of his soul and would do anything to stop it even down to becoming the villain |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 10:33 AM
#74
I just "finished" chapter 2 (that took a long time, good time I had the day off) It's a shame both Kirumi and Ryouma had to go so soon, I liked both of them. I had a feeling Kirumi was going to get killed off soon but during most of the trial I didn't actually think she was the culprit (or that she was the PRIME MINISTER... I have no idea how Kodaka came up with that), for a long time I suspected Momota and it's only when everybody started accusing him and Maki that I stopped doing it and started being more cautious of Kirumi. I saw the piranha cage plot twist coming from miles away though and once I remembered the piece of black cloth it was easy to put together two and two. The cliffhanger at the very end gave me the shills. I love when two of my favorite characters in a story have some sort of rivalry going on! |
Comic_SansOct 3, 2017 3:35 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Oct 3, 2017 10:58 AM
#75
Just finished chapter 1 last Sunday... I got sick for the whole day after that. Fuck! Also Kodaka if you bring her back to life like you did with Kirigiri imma gonna be more pissed off. |
NeonoiaOct 3, 2017 11:16 AM
"... Because when you live in this world of my closed eyes... ... Being alone is very lonely...". |
Oct 3, 2017 11:49 AM
#76
JizzyHitler said: I can echo @GoldenDevilGamer, id never guess the big twist of V3. Its gonna be a divisive twist. Though you did get something really wrong with chapter 6's twist Golden, read the white text below. Pizzagun said: it really isnt a fuck you, I can see how people could misread it as that, but it really was just a meta way of lampooning previous game's themes. I think alot of people missed the fact that DR1-3 are still completely real events not retconned at all, in v3's world they are just video games and anime, they are separate continuity so they dont negatively impact one another. Its easier to describe V3 as our world if the franchise grew really out of hand and became a reality show, also there are a ton of hints that kodaka has placed into the prologue he urges people to replay on twitter after finishing the game that outright confirm Tsugumi was lying about them volunteering, cause prior to the brainwash they all remember being kidnapped before being given their ultimates but coincidently thats gone after that brainwash, also in the background of her room you can see the set for the supposed volunteer tapes of shuuichi,kaito,and kaede. Basically this shit is a ruse cruise far from being over. Kodaka already confirmed the franchise isnt over yet as if the ending didnt already outright say it.I feel sorry for the fans, it's a literal fuck you to the fanbase, kek. Understand that rage in Japan now and why there are so many negative reviews in Amazon japan. And wow, that Steam price for that translation quality lol. Also by now you should understand japan amazon is not a good gauge of quality, they are infamous for downvoting stuff to high hell for the smallest reasons like removing a panty shot in a game or doing anything slightly not advertised. V3 is actually really popular over there with Shuuichi being the only protagonist to get #1 in the popularity poll. That's good and all but you should have used spoiler tags, RIP those people who read it lol. |
Oct 3, 2017 12:18 PM
#77
Pizzagun said: does the white text not work for you? On both my phone and comp its entirely invisible until highlighted. Just to be safe i added a double spoiler but this isxthe first time ive heard of white texting not working.That's good and all but you should have used spoiler tags, RIP those people who read it lol. But if it really ismt id ask you edit out my reply in your post then |
JizzyHitlerOct 3, 2017 12:27 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Oct 3, 2017 8:20 PM
#78
slightly intrigued that the game even connects to the dr3 anime must motivate myself to start chapter 3 |
"When the time is yours, the future is waiting, The person you become, and the people you're creating." |
Oct 4, 2017 5:18 PM
#79
I still havent played this, just the demo is it good so far? |
Oct 5, 2017 1:59 PM
#80
I'm done with chapter 3 THANK_YOU_HIMIKO.jpg, she became second best grill just because of this. Sleeping Ouma was also super cute. This was probably the "worst" chapter so far – it wasn't bad, but not as good as chapter one or two. I didn't really like how they chose to switch cases so fast and then completely forgot about Angie for a good portion of the trial and it could've been shorter. I didn't expect Korekiyo to be an incestuous crackpot though. Note to self: Every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game features two victims. Also, every chapter 3 in a Danganronpa game is a disappointment. predictable with two victims in every game though. I feel like they could switch it up a little by e.g. adding two killers to the rooster but one of them survives after the trial due to the "first serve" rule. Surely that would make for an interesting conflict. I still havent played this, just the demo is it good so far? Absolutely. It's amazing! |
Comic_SansOct 5, 2017 2:28 PM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
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