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| I checked the manga because I really thought they censored it heavily as many people said in this thread. And it's basically about the tits. Of course it would be better if they showed tits, but honestly? It looked much darker and intense in anime than it was in manga. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| This has to be the weirdest NTR scene I have seen ever. Not that I have seen many tho. Like dude was aware it was Haruki's mind in his sister's body and deadass used a mirror to show Haruki how he was defiling... him... while being in the body of the person he romantically loves 💀 Like for real, I'm now wondering if even hentai has something with this same thematic. But well, leaving that aside, Robin did look like he just saw a ghost when Kiruko appeared so I'm gonna assume he was, in fact, the one who shot her in the past. Overall, 2/5 episode. Mainly because of how apparently random the whole rape stuff ended up being. People assume Robin had already raped Haruki's sister in the past (BECAUSE OF ONE SINGLE LINE PRACTICALLY EVERY EDGY RAPIST SAYS IN MEDIA) but I honestly don't recall any hint of her being uncomfortable around him so I really doubt this statement. Now that said, the studio really, REALLY did their best to portray the assault as something more than just shock value for the sake of shock value and I seriously respect the effort. Direction as well as cinematography were impressive and the sensation they delivered felt way more impactful here than in the manga counterpart. And people saying the manga was worse when it was all practically the same but with uncensored tits smh... Anyways, just one more episode to go and they still need to address the nonsense that is the aftermath of the rape situation so I'm not sure how much screen-time of Tokio, Mimihime and the rest we will have by the end. Well... let's hope the season can conclude in a somewhat satisfactory note, at least. |
| they're seeing blue sky for the first time yoooo wtf robin mf |
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| Was interesting. Some more info. And scenes from the facility. (Finally some action there.) Still more questions - curious how (and if) Robin is tied to that facility. And of course we more about that doctor. As for the shocking/hard to watch stuff - not much happened here. Episode was pretty tame. I thought there'd be more stuff. Violence and blood and gore lol. There have been other episodes that were more shocking. (Girl with the Usami guy with the lot of machines.) But it was just a simple rape. Nothing big. In fact I enjoyed it. Unless you have had own past experiences (where the episode could trigger) or for some reason find milde sexual violence a lot harsher than brutal gore (which imo it is not ...) - no reason to be scared of the episode. :) All the warnings were exaggerating a lot. Just wondering how Robin changed that much. I guess he was like that from the beginning - the author just hid the "evil face" stuff when he was around the other kids (the boy). |
| I suspected Robin was up to something shady, but damn. If they uncovered he's an evil mastermind or something, it would be acceptable, but he just rapes the one person who trusts him indefinitely, and it's the worst. Hope Kiruko recovers… that's so utterly horrendous and traumatic. :( |
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Dickegrobe said: And where is your argument? You just claim that there was hundreds of other ways to tell this part of the story, while you don't know anything about the past history of the characters, you don't know anything about their relationship and you don't know anything about what drives Robin (and so do I at this point). In short, you have no idea what purpose this scene can have and so your claim is completely baseless.And please don't go "cope" on me. We aren't edgelord middle schoolers anymore. We can at least pretend to only attack the argument, and not the person (unless it gets really bad, sure, but we're nowhere near that). That's easy: Say, such a backstory was presented in a way that does not totally clash with what we know from flashbacks so far, then I would gladly eat my words. Until then, I won't. There's nothing in the flashbacks we have that contradict this. There's not even flashbacks showing Robin and Kiriko together. |
rvdboomJun 18, 2023 11:22 PM
| I was prepared for a lot of things like all the children turning into Hiruko and killing the adults, somebody else being in Robin's body or even Kiruko getting killed. Didn't expect the things that happened in the facility to be the pleasant part of the episode and I was certainly not expecting rape and cuckholding? (or whatever Robin was trying to do with mirror). Kinda wished Maru would have shown up last minute to give Robin a beat down before anything happened, but that didn't happen... At the very least I am certain now, that the woman who was with Usami is Mimihime! And the reason why she wanted to see the sky one last time before she died, was because it was the first thing she saw once she got outside of the facility. I really don't know how things will go down in the final episode, but I doubt everything will be resolved, so here is hoping for a season 2! (Oh and kinda unrelated, but I am starting to think that Maru doesn't have a twin, but rather was cloned or something) |
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Tsubasavo said: I had the exact same train of thought, couldn't agree moreWTF dude... As an anime only i thought the worst thing that could happen in this ep was Robin being revealed as the doctor who has taken over his body not fucking rape bruh. Goddamnit kiruko why did you not suspect a thing jfc That's fucked up man. I was hoping Maru would secretly follow. Of all the times he picked to be decent and this happens |
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Zoushu said: That Robin scene must be one of the most twisted/ psycho things I've seen in anime. Can't imagine what Kiruko would be feeling in this situation, or what the author was thinking when making this up. It makes it extra fucked up that Robin is using the fact that he's (or she's) in his sister's body against him Seriously, one of the most fucked up scenes in anime ever. Not only is he getting raped but his sister is getting raped as well and he has to watch his sister that he's in love with getting raped while he's getting raped... FrenzyAssassin said: So that is where Maru got his name (maru = circle, the scientist guy marked the kid with) Interesting, so one more confirmation that Maru is Tokio's son. This anime is great at telling a story without outright telling you things. |
| What the fuck. But why tho? I think what ppl have said about this happening in the past has to be true. Else how tf do you go from being a "good guy" to a fucking rapist. I guess we only had Haruki's perspective of Robin in the past and he idolized him which makes it way more fucked. But I don't recall if/how Robin and Kiruko interacting in that flashback episode. Guess I gotta go back and watch. Edit: Well looks like Robin and Kiruko never actually interacted on camera in the past. Robin just showed up and saved Haruki's ass from some bullies and gave him the jacket basically. So ya he was always probably a scumbag and may have even raped Kiruko in the past but could also just be other unnamed women. |
ProofByColorJun 18, 2023 2:17 PM
| Poor Kiruko. She just wanted to be reunited with Robin who she thought of as family. But Robin was not the good family man that Kiruko thought he was. It was messed up on Robin's part to inflict trauma on Haruki by raping him in his sister's body. I hope Robin dies a painful death. That bastard was sick in the head. |
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Radical_Orion said: Thank you for the lengthy answer! Sounds like something I'll like, considering the constant infodump dialogues that I've been a victim of recently. I think I'll really like that the hints are shown through visuals. It's good to know in advance that payoffs take time. I'm cool with post-apo, and "science went too far" is also an intriguing description! I've noticed that the production is really crisp, and the way they handled this scene was pretty impressive. There's definitely some passion behind this project. Thanks again, I'm gonna give it a watch!MugiwaraJopa said: If you like Puzzle Jigsaw Plots and Anachronic Order narrative then, this anime is for you, look up for definitions if needed, but basically it's the type of mystery anime that you need to rewatch a couple of times to catch all the details and put the pieces together to fully understand the story. Even then, you'd probably need to go on forums to discuss with other people who spotted details that you missed and theorize.Checking out the comments here since I've seen the raep scene. Can someone sell me on this anime? What's the appeal? The narrative is not in chronological order and most of the hints are visual. You won't get much verbal explanation. I've watch an anime reaction channel react to this show, and they were frustrated like "What is going on in this show?" and confused the whole time. Because most animes watchers are used to exposition through long monologues and dialogues that explain everything to the audience like they're 5. Here, everything is explained through action and visuals, and some of the explanations/reveals or payoffs, come with a huge delay, which also can be frustrating for your casual anime watcher who needs instant payoff and instant explanation. If you like the chill dystopian post-apo settings, combined with weird supernatural unethical cruel "science went too far" kind of sci-fi thematics, then, this anime is also for you! Finally, the production value is top notch. Dynamic animation and directing, beautiful art direction, beautiful backgrounds, unique art style despite some generic character designs. |
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| Oh crap, I thought the Robin guy is new. Turns out he's been in the story since the early days. Looks like I spoiled myself bad! |
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| Wtf did this really happen? Even with all my years watching anime this is the first time Im actually grossed out by this.. I did get spoiled that something like this was going to happen, but I never thought it would hit the main character, or rather my first thought was "lets hope its not her" so of course it is.. I guess Robin wasnt that great after all. When an episode in a serious show feels too wholesome you can really tell something bad is about to happen. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| What a disturbing ending. |
| That ending fucking shook me, brilliant episode, and arguably the most horrifying yet. I had a hunch Robin would be twisted, but the way it was played is just... goddamn. This thread is predictably a gold mine, although I'm a little disappointed everyone's focused on the "rape" and almost no one has commented on the "watching the little brother rape his sister" angle Robin, and the show, are clearly getting at. Equally fucked up. |
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| Lots of things happened in this episode, from the facility being destroyed to Maru and Kiruko finding a settlement. Regarding the facility, Mimihime was fearless in exploring the opening and seeing a blue sky for the first time. She was awestruck as I think anyone would be seeing the sky for the first time. It looks like the old lady director may have been killed since it appears that a bunch of debris fell on her but I'm not completely sure if she did die. Baby Maru and his brother/clone being marked by the doctor guy, I'm curious if its the doctor that rescues baby Maru or someone else. Back to Kiruko and Maru, it looks like they have found a good settlement until Kiruko finds Robin. I'll be honest, I didn't think anything suspicious of him until Kiruko got out of the bath and her clothes were gone. It's too bad that she was not able to escape before Robin handcuffed her and it looks like no one will save her. Btw, I recall 2 guys checked Kiruko for weapons before she entered Robin's area so she would not have been able to bring her gun with her. With one episode remaining there's a lot to cover so I question how they'll be able to do it all. I would like to see what happens to everyone at the facility and Kiruko getting payback on Robin one way or another. Maru probably won't be able to forgive himself for not being there for Kiruko, damn. |
| I've been spoiled of the rape thing very early on and now it's finally there. I think the execution is done very well and it flash out what a twisted man Robin has become. I know this is a controversial topic but given that the amount of 1/5 rating on this episode, seems to me Mal community is a lot more innocent than i thought lolz. Like srsly you guys cant take this type of topic? Also for a post apocalyptic dystopian society, rape is a pretty common theme, and you can see a lot of prostitutes walking on street looking for people, showing from the previous episodes already. |
LifeSameAsLarry said: Lmao, kids these days.its ntr, rape, mind-control, gender bender. what a good hentai Discussing sensitive topic = hentai. FreezePeach said: Are you rly sure he's innocent from the perspective of Horuki and some rumors?Amount of pearls clutching in these comments is amusing. The series has medical experiments on kids, AI creating superhumans, terrifying man-eating monsters, an adult planning to murer a child to transfer her brain into a new body, two suicides on top of "completely normal" brutal murder and mutilation. But rape is a step too far. Robin is suddenly a second coming of Hitler. Everything he ever did or said is creepy and evil. This is ridiculous. At no point until the last few minutes there was any hint that something is wrong with him. A small recap of relevant events: Episode 3 - Robin was supporting the orphanage for years. - He stopped people who tried to kill Haruki and gave him a jacket. - He was participating in hunt for a monster and send Haruki home when he tried to join. - He lost a young sister about 10 years old in the large disaster and now he is overprotective to kids. - He disappeared during the investigation of disappearances, 5 years ago. - He was investigating the doctor allegedly researching monsters and experimenting on humans. - There are no any hints of improper relationship between Robin and Kiriko. - Haruki was warned to keep Kiriko away from the suspicious doctor. - Kiriko dies, circumstances are unknown. - The suspicious doctor performs an unknown operation on Haruki and Kiriko. Episode 8 - 2 years ago Robin was well known to the Immortal Order group. - People respect him and call him "sensei". - He was training in surgery and studying Dr. Usami's technique. - He said he's not going to let anyone else die and disappeared. - Again, not a hint of anything fishy. Episode 12 - Robin is one of the leaders of a prosperous community. - He left Asakusa looking for the suspicious doctor but lost him. - The orphanage was gone when he returned. - He was saddened by Mimihime's death (ep8). - He found Takahara Academy facility and used it to start a town restoration. Some of these are rumors and a few we know only from his own words. Sill, so far he seems to be a good egg. Then he rapes Kiriko. There were no any signs that he is a rapist or even just anything but a perfect citizen. He has power and money, sex is cheap in the town as Maru's viewpoint shows. The well established character suddenly completely changed for no reason. Weird. It doesn't make any sense. Unless we are looking at a plot twist. Things are not quite what they seem to be and it will be explained eventually. We don't know anything about Kiriko's death and details of her operation. Her hair changed color. Hair don't change color after surgery. Maybe she got someone else's scalp. Much more likely the suspicious doctor used a few extra monster parts. Brain replacement is currently impossible. Just connecting a damaged nerve is beyond our capabilities and we are talking about all cranial nerves. Robin appears to be scared and/or disgusted when Kiriko shows up. He says "I'm just conducting a small experiment. Who's inside this head of yours?" - I think he is serious. He knows something that we don't. He investigated the doctor, studied surgery and doctor Usami's work with Mimihime, a Hiruko. Kiriko is clearly not a normal girl but how far she is from norm is unknown. And "you've grown so much since we last saw each other" doesn't imply that Robin was raping Kiriko for years. There are plenty of people in search for a reason to be offended, this plot twist doesn't work for everyone. But I think this is what it is. There are monster parts in Kiriko. She will eventually develop special abilities. Maybe she already did. People nowadats are pretty naive Do you remember Man-eaters part can worth a fortune in black market? Maybe he tries to hunt Man-eater for profit. Maybe he has ulterior motive for raising the orphanage too. Also do you remember the last gunshot from ep3? It's very likely it's Robin who shoot Horuki's sister in the end. Horuki was a naive child back then and only see the good side of Robin. He probably nvr aware that his sister might have some relationship with him too since it's unlikely they'd let him know. What we see about Robin is only from the perspective of a naive kid who lookup to his "role-model" -> Horuki and nothing more. |
Ventus_SJun 18, 2023 10:21 PM
davidyodo24 said: Exactly. Robin could have been the one who killed Horuki's sister.I knew it the moment Robin saw Kiruko, that face wasn't shocked from happiness at all. That is the face that seeing ghost, implying he is the one that shot her in the past. The Visual Storytelling is going crazy in this episode. omg imagined the person you admire so much is this evil rapist piece of shit. This is WILD!! Also everything we know about Robin is from the naive child perspective who look up to his parental figure and nothing more. We donnu shit about Robin so ppl who said the act of raping is unhinted/ out of place is just fooling themselves. |
FreezePeach said: You're well aware of course of the countless cases of child rape done by the father or uncle who was a well respected man, a doctor or an attorney, right?The well established character suddenly completely changed for no reason. Weird. It doesn't make any sense. Unless we are looking at a plot twist. Things are not quite what they seem to be and it will be explained eventually. Why do you assume that someone bad should always appear bad to others? |
Quanda1eDing1e said: Jfc this episode messed me up. I want to rate it a 1 for hate but this peak content deserves all 5's for what it is, so that's what it gets. This is the first time an anime made my eyes water out of dread rather than tragedy like anohana or angel beats. I feel so sorry for Kiruko the betrayal from being defiled from who she remembered as her loving big brother. Meanwhile Maru decided to allow her, her privacy. This is when realism feels bad rather than good, we would have all loved Maru to somehow guess something was off, or even to follow on a whim to save her just in time. But sadly he did what most would have done, we can't blame him but he will definitely shoulder the blame knowing how he is. What a terrible thing to happen, and off topic but it's all but confirmed that Robin is Taka right? I wonder how he will react coming across his friends son? I wonder what made him become a sick fuck? So many questions 5/5 I'll just say Robin is not Taka. That makes completely no sense and I don't know how you reached that conclusion. |
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| WTF ROBIN IS F*CKING DOING ?!! |
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