TheConquerer said: I can try to give you a quick summary if you bare with me for a moment.So whens phase change? And has anyone posted any summaries or do I have to read back everything. Hmm Day 1 is always the source of so much info. But also so much misinformation... Well I'll throw my vote in in a bit anyway |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Phraze said: Red_Salmon/Sollux16 look scummy to me. other names I'm not familiar with also got my attention Red_Salmon I can see. I don't think they posted anything since their Vote on Logic? Or am I missremembering again? Sollux on the other hand I read as town for now. They seem to be trying really hard, makes me read the town for now. If they turn up scum, I am still proud of them. Any other thoughts on the game so far? (Tbh, I feel weird talking to you. I don't think we every had before, not really anyways) Sollux could be deep wolf. I'm reading as I go and no one has left a solid impression on me yet. I know Sleipnirr is a solid player, and there hasn't been any oddities. |
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logic340 said: TheConquerer said: I can try to give you a quick summary if you bare with me for a moment.So whens phase change? And has anyone posted any summaries or do I have to read back everything. Hmm Day 1 is always the source of so much info. But also so much misinformation... Well I'll throw my vote in in a bit anyway Sure, up to you. I'll still skim over the previous pages. |
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| @TheConquerer -Zymf was leading train coming out of RVS. I would say 3 of the 4 votes were RVS and 1 (Sleipnirr's) had reasons (weak as I found them to be) -Sleipnirr his new playstyle is more aggressive and pro town (??). I guess I am still learning what pro town is since my first real introduction to scum was Crossbell pocketing everyone. He was very active early but seems to be nitpicking a bit. Not sure I agree with his reasoning so far but we’ll see how things progress. I’m worried about an attempted Pocket here. -Oyasumi_Rosie always looks scummy D1 (this is like the fifth straight game) not going to say it is or isn't alignment indicative you are going to have to read that for yourself -Phraze is confusing. She is very busy and skims threads so it doesn't surprise me that she didn't pick up on the fact that you hadn't been contacted when calling you a lurker though I still want her answers to my questions. -Grapefruit21 says he will take on more of a lurker approach this game. His vote on RE for trusting Mishu is the talk of the thread right now if you ask me. -Mishukax is doing what Mishu does, he slaps people in the face right after saying hello. -CorruptPurity is just getting into the swing of things -RE1031 though that the hosts were part of the game at first, didn't like how Mishu asked a question and left the thread, and not understanding Mishu's scum read of her. -Red_Salmon thinks that my time as town has run out. Other than voting me for that reason not sure that they make of most others. -Sollux16 seems to be confused and trying to figure things out. I would say out of everyone so far he is the one person (besides myself) who I can confidently say isn't aligned with anyone else. -Shinichi-kun not sure what to make he dumps posts when he is here. His posts seems useful but I haven't really delved into them yet -_Claire_ not as active as I had originally thought. I know she has posted more since then but nothing really stands out other than my talk with her about Shinichi. -logic340 you should see an evolved form of the guy you nk'd D2 in CCL |
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| @logic340 I don't have a strong read either. And my reaction to that post was entirely a gut reaction. So between mishu who I'm trusting because they saw something and commented on it which made me take a second look and see an off post. On the upside fairly sure Corrupted is town, so I have a nice town block forming at least. K sed people voting Sleip gor Edit: Phone posting sucks leaving my amusing to me typos in and trying again. I approve of pressure on Sleip for 245 and would be voting there if I trusted my gut less. That said I want to see where this goes because there is a way it plays out that makes Sleip very towny. And many more where it's an easy lynch for the day. |
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Mishukax said: Shinichi-Kun said: From what ive witnessed though that never actually happens and i end up becoming an easy lynch for scum. Well yeah, unfortunately, and I suppose when you defend yourself by saying "those pushing for a lynch on me are mafia because I'm an easy lynch", you're met with "that's just an excuse that takes advantage of the way you always get mislynched". In other words you're stuck with getting mislynched because wifom and stuff. In any case, if a lynch is ever pushed on you this game, I know what I will do. Shinichi-Kun said: Lol why would you post something like that if u didnt want it to be taken to heart? <<< i actually do want an aswer to this btw I was making an observation as to how you're a cursed player, at least that's how I see it. I was saying to not take that observation seriously because I don't want people to think you're maf just because you live longer than D1+2. It was also a way to say "I'm not taking this observation seriously either". Shinichi-Kun said: Why is re1 biggest scum target? Also ur town reading salmon off of that 1 post u mentioned earlier? Both are mostly gut feels, but I can say I didn't like the way RE1031 responded to Rosie's voting advice for Salmon. post[/url]. True it does work that way but thats why i said when do u draw a line betweeen the twio. Was justs a weird thing to say lol generally u dont wanna say stuff that could be taken seriously harming the game Ok thank you |
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logic340 said: Sleipnirr said: Will you change your vote just because he answers your line of questioning or is there something specific you are looking for in his answer? It seems like you want him to appease you which is why I ask rather than here what he actually thinks. He has been sharing his thoughts on the game like post #176 for example. Matter of fact this is pretty much an answer to your question though it wasn't specifically directed at you. So are you voting him for not answering the way you would like or because you missed the fact that what you asked has been answered?okay I caught up with the game for now unvote From my perspective both zymf and rosie are town. The only reason I changed my vote to him was to put pressure on him and maybe make him slip. Honestly I thought that he asked for logic to change his vote was a might be a scum tell as scums are generally afraid of that and thats why I built a train on him and waited for his reactions. (Also zymf this little things I write inside the brackets are off game fluff stuff pls dont take my brother comments seriously they are just there for me to have fun xD) Anyway returning back to the topic I believe both of them are town so we should look for another lynch target. So I will put my vote on one who might be scum vote Sollux16 I think more attention should be put on you. There is also the fact that I have never played with you before. Tell me why you shouldnt be lynched and who are in your scummy list? I asked about impressions yesterday to you (not a read list) still you did not write anything? Is there specific reason for that? Like maybe you rolling scum for the first time and not knowing what to write about your scum buddies? @sollux16 if you want me to unvote answer all the questions above. Sleip I am going to be honest not really liking your new playstyle. I am going to ask you to think about how other perceive you with it like you did with Crossbell. I see it got you voted out in another game and I would have voted the same way had I been in the game. Knowing this is your new style makes me want to leave you but posts like this make me question if you are trying to pocket rather than actually working the game out. Firstly nah I dont try to pocket I would say its the quiet opposite of it since I am antagonizing right now. Secondly I dont know him and noticed that no one has put pressure on him this entire phase so I decided to put it myself. Lastly if obviously if I dont like his answer or feel something scummy about them I will not change my vote but if I feel its coming from a townie aspect I will change my vote. Also I dont believe that sharing one's opinons should be considered a townie tell in the first day phase as since there are no flips one can share his honests opinions and unless people backread even if you made a scum slip or defended a certain scum player they wont notice it. Even when they back read people kinda skim through it which makes scum slips escape from one's eye. Havent you read one of your old games and read a certain line and thought to yourself this was a certain scumtell how did I not notice that. In most cases this certain line is in the first day phase thats why I am trying to make everyone attend as much as possible. Talking and answering questions is not bad for town its only bad for scum as they will keep lying and lying eventually getting caught in the web they made with their lies. P.S this playstyle is only for the first dayphase. I still stay true to my original theory style but its still too early for that so I am trying this out. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Why is 158 gross? Logic has answer for me before, why can I answer for him. I knew where he was coming from. He felt like a need more pressure to make up some good posts. //edit: if you think we are a scum pair you are so off base that you might as well be on another planet Answering questions directed at other people is never a good look. It's one of the things I used to say logic is the only one who can make scummy things look towny about. And I'll say it again point to where I'm scum reading you. Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. |
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logic340 said: hmmm I actually picked up that post where Conq thought it was a mistag, but he's in the game. he didn't post afterwards so I labeled him a lurker. he hasn't given much input yet.-Phraze is confusing. She is very busy and skims threads so it doesn't surprise me that she didn't pick up on the fact that you hadn't been contacted when calling you a lurker though I still want her answers to my questions. as for me being busy, guess I'm trying to juggle my time between various activities lol. but I'm still watching the thread no worries~ |
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Sollux16 said: I'm at a complete loss right now... I don't have enough information from people to be able to even begin to read people... I'm going back and forth on Zymf and Rosie. I'm not sure what to think of Logic because they haven't been scum yet so I'm half expecting them to flip scum at any time. I don't like that Grapefruit is planning on playing a lurker role because with my experience in the last game, the people who played lurkers have turned up to be scum (ie: Soren, DarthInvader). Conqerer didn't confirm, I'd like to hear from them so I can start forming a read. I'm not sure where to begin on everyone else because I've literally picked up nothing from them.... Normally happens day 1 |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Grapefruit21 said: Answering questions directed at other people is never a good look. It's one of the things I used to say logic is the only one who can make scummy things look towny about. And I'll say it again point to where I'm scum reading you. Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. You know that answering other's question might be scumtelling in certain situations though. Like since they are a team they instictively tend to protect each other. Its not one thinks about but just does. This might be one of them. Since rosie never thought people would suspect him for this she never really thought about it hence she answered her scumbuddy's question. This is farfetched but there are scenarios this actually happened in some games. |
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◩ Vote Count 1.4 ◩ [ 3 ] Grapefruit - Sollux16, CorruptedPurity, logic340 [ 2 ] Oyasumi_Rosie - Zymf, _Claire_ [ 2 ] TheConquerer - Shinichi-Kun, Phraze [ 1 ] Phraze - RE1031 [ 1 ] logic340 - Red_Salmon [ 1 ] RE1031 - Grapefruit21 [ 1 ] Sollux16 - Sleipnirr [ 1 ] Red_Salmon - TheConquerer Not Voting Mishukax, Oyasumi_Rosie Mod Note(s) I need to check the vote track again. Excuse the inaccuracy, if any, for now. It should be accurate now. If not, just tell me :) ◩ Vote Track 1.4 ◩ Shinichi-Kun: TheConquerer Zymf: Oyasumi_Rosie logic340: Zymf -> Oyasumi_Rosie -> Grapefruit21 -> Unvote -> Grapefruit21 Sleipnirr: Red_Salmon -> Zymf -> Sollux16 Red_Salmon: logic340 Grapefruit21: RE1301 Phraze: TheConquerer Oyasumi_Rosie: Grapefruit21 -> Zymf -> Sleipnirr -> Zymf -> Unvote Sollux16: Zymf -> Grapefruit21 _Claire_: Shinichi-Kun -> Oyasumi_Rosie RE1031: Phraze TheConquerer: Red_Salmon CorruptedPurity: Grapefruit21 Mishukax: |
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logic340 said: With as much as they have posted I am concerned with the lack of vote from both Mishukax and Shinichi-kun. Not to say town has never don this but dome one guys for real? Do u mean my lack of pressure on my vote? Cause im already voting lol |
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Zymf said: Shinichi-Kun said: This club doesn't have hosting rules but hosting guidelines and we called it that for a reason. And this is what the hosting guidelines say about role madness:It does actually lol its part of the hosting rules. You must state if its role madness or bastard setup. Guidelines said: Sure they do mention it, but they don't really elaborate what exactly role madness is, because the term itself is a bit vague. In this game we are all twins so already there we are all at least "Vanilla Twins". Also, what does power role even mean in this context? And power roles doesn't have to be "powerful" or "unique", they just need to have another ability than voting.A short description of the setup is required, which includes whether it is closed or open setup, whether it is a full reveal game, if its a role madness game and games must be stated if it contains any bastard elements in both sign up and game thread. Refer to this link to know whether or nor your game falls under bastard modding. pr is stating the role has an ability doesnt matter the streangth of said ability. ANyways we are speculating way too much into this anyways so we should stop. |
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_Claire_ said: Shinichi-Kun said: claire im lurking? People who havent even posted once yet you choose me out of them lol. Really really weird choice thats for sure. Hey cmon we have some sort of friendship thats why I notice you first :/ Also knowing you will spend 99% of your life playing WoW and rest 1% with *cough* I want to bring you to this game youre signing up. The fact that you choose me out of the 4 or 5 who hadnt posted yet at the time was strange almost like u didnt even try to reada the thread. Also i spend time with awa whenever she is awake so dont say 1% thats pretty fustrating. |
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Red_Salmon said: Morning guys! (well at least its morning here) Just re-read all the pages. Wew! :p @logic340 I'm gonna keep my vote on you. Mainly cuz I feel your townie streak is over :p Been too long. Also, you've been town for so many games that it will probably be easy for you to imitate normie townie behavior. Also it kinda annoys me how everyone just assumes you're town ;p I was suspecting you, Rosie and grape to be scum because rosie was acting erratically but you tried to help her (sorta)(albeit after a vote on her which probably could be a bluff) But rosie's latest posts are making me think against this line of reasoning. I havent assumed anything lol im always catious of logic also ur post is weird what is with the emoji. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Grapefruit21 said: Answering questions directed at other people is never a good look. It's one of the things I used to say logic is the only one who can make scummy things look towny about. And I'll say it again point to where I'm scum reading you. Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. I will have to agree to disagree because it has contextually been a very handy scum finding tool for me. On another note this is the sort of behavior I would have expected to see from town Sleip after his questioning of sollux. The long theory wall is normally NAI, but I like it here. |
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Sleipnirr said: okay I caught up with the game for now unvote From my perspective both zymf and rosie are town. The only reason I changed my vote to him was to put pressure on him and maybe make him slip. Honestly I thought that he asked for logic to change his vote was a might be a scum tell as scums are generally afraid of that and thats why I built a train on him and waited for his reactions. (Also zymf this little things I write inside the brackets are off game fluff stuff pls dont take my brother comments seriously they are just there for me to have fun xD) Anyway returning back to the topic I believe both of them are town so we should look for another lynch target. So I will put my vote on one who might be scum vote Sollux16 I think more attention should be put on you. There is also the fact that I have never played with you before. Tell me why you shouldnt be lynched and who are in your scummy list? I asked about impressions yesterday to you (not a read list) still you did not write anything? Is there specific reason for that? Like maybe you rolling scum for the first time and not knowing what to write about your scum buddies? @sollux16 if you want me to unvote answer all the questions above. Ur trying to hard to be town and i dont like it at all. Sollux has been pretty townie with some of this posts you should call out someone like conq who needs to catch up to the game so its perfect to ask questions.` |
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Grapefruit21 said: Shinichi-Kun said: Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. I will have to agree to disagree because it has contextually been a very handy scum finding tool for me. On another note this is the sort of behavior I would have expected to see from town Sleip after his questioning of sollux. The long theory wall is normally NAI, but I like it here. Not saying to throw is away entirely cause it is a good scum hunting tool but its only a start because its something both alignments can do. Honestly the reaction you get from it is better than the action itself anyways. lol i like this small theory walls i hate posting huge messages. |
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Phraze said: Come again for me please??? You called him a lurker when you voted for TheConquere in #211. This was 21 posts before he made his first post in the thread #232logic340 said: hmmm I actually picked up that post where Conq thought it was a mistag, but he's in the game. he didn't post afterwards so I labeled him a lurker. he hasn't given much input yet.-Phraze is confusing. She is very busy and skims threads so it doesn't surprise me that she didn't pick up on the fact that you hadn't been contacted when calling you a lurker though I still want her answers to my questions. as for me being busy, guess I'm trying to juggle my time between various activities lol. but I'm still watching the thread no worries~ How did TheConquerer say anything about being mistagged before he ever posted? |
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Sleipnirr said: Well I am not her scum buddy so that scenario/theory can be scrapped at least in regards to me anyway.Shinichi-Kun said: Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. You know that answering other's question might be scumtelling in certain situations though. Like since they are a team they instictively tend to protect each other. Its not one thinks about but just does. This might be one of them. Since rosie never thought people would suspect him for this she never really thought about it hence she answered her scumbuddy's question. This is farfetched but there are scenarios this actually happened in some games. Red_Salmon said: Keeping an eye on me doesn't mean you have to keep an ill placed vote on me. Let's discuss who else may be scum. Lets go about this in two ways:TheConquerer said: @logic340 what have I created... Nice, it seems things are still slow to start, there's still time for everyone to shape up. vote red_salmon might as welll since they didn't have a great reason to vote you, seems almost too casual *puts on tinfoil hat*. Also nice sig. Thanks man ^-^ I'd return the favour but I'm kinda busy keeping my eyes on someone >.> 1. If I am scum then who are my partners in crime? 2. In a world where you and I are both town who are the scum? Shinichi-Kun said: It was the first vote and I forgot you did an RVS. Mishu has posted a lot to not have placed a vote yet and you ahd posted a lot without moving yours. Not that there was something better at the time but I try to see when and why people move their votes. I misrepresented you and I apologize for that.logic340 said: With as much as they have posted I am concerned with the lack of vote from both Mishukax and Shinichi-kun. Not to say town has never don this but dome one guys for real? Do u mean my lack of pressure on my vote? Cause I'm already voting lol |
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Red_Salmon said: We are approaching 300 post, I would think there is plenty of information to got through whether we know what we're looking for or not is another question.logic340 said: After Disgaea I felt that way because scum had an inactive spot that replaced out twice, after lynching the Cop D1 in Final Fantasy I think I am going to revisit how I treat inactive and new players D1. It's a slippery slope when it comes to inactives. Hmm! I agree. Can never be too sure. So far only Grape looks suspicious. But that's still just 50-50. There isn't much data to follow on the first day |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Sleipnirr said: okay I caught up with the game for now unvote From my perspective both zymf and rosie are town. The only reason I changed my vote to him was to put pressure on him and maybe make him slip. Honestly I thought that he asked for logic to change his vote was a might be a scum tell as scums are generally afraid of that and thats why I built a train on him and waited for his reactions. (Also zymf this little things I write inside the brackets are off game fluff stuff pls dont take my brother comments seriously they are just there for me to have fun xD) Anyway returning back to the topic I believe both of them are town so we should look for another lynch target. So I will put my vote on one who might be scum vote Sollux16 I think more attention should be put on you. There is also the fact that I have never played with you before. Tell me why you shouldnt be lynched and who are in your scummy list? I asked about impressions yesterday to you (not a read list) still you did not write anything? Is there specific reason for that? Like maybe you rolling scum for the first time and not knowing what to write about your scum buddies? @sollux16 if you want me to unvote answer all the questions above. Ur trying to hard to be town and i dont like it at all. Sollux has been pretty townie with some of this posts you should call out someone like conq who needs to catch up to the game so its perfect to ask questions.` Shinichi you are forgetting something though I dont play this game so taht you like it. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Can you give me some examples of when scum have jumped into conversations like that and where you used it to identify or catch scum doing it? Not a big fan or Sleip's votes so far they lack any kind of substance other than pressuring and voting to ask them questions. This doesn't resemble the town Sleip I remember in FT, Disgaea, but maybe a little from the other game I was reading. What is your town read on Sleipnirr right now?Shinichi-Kun said: Thats like saying everyone who looks is scum and anyone who votes themselves is scummy. I answer questions directed at others all the time regardless of my alignment. You trying to scumminess into a post that should not be there. I will have to agree to disagree because it has contextually been a very handy scum finding tool for me. On another note this is the sort of behavior I would have expected to see from town Sleip after his questioning of sollux. The long theory wall is normally NAI, but I like it here. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: @theconquerer What do u think of the game so far and its players? Bascially what do u think about all the interations The ones involving rosie or grapefruit for that matter. Well there's a few people doing all the investigating like most mafia games, then there's a few who pop in and out offering help and then those who do nothing really. Usually one of the big investigative players are scum but thats only if the player is mildly experienced as town. I'd say atm, red salmon is just agreeing with everyone, claire seems town (I don't really remember claire ever being scum), Phraze seems to have been caught out with a mistake, yikes. Sollux and shinichi aren't doing much. Grapey is very opinionated which could be trying to lead town or just their personality. so maybe he's scum but idk. Rosey seems ok atm, I don't think I've ever played with them before. They seem to wish to know about me which at least shows town spirit. Oh wait you're shinichi, I guess you're asking Q's then. Also logic seems to be leading the investigation which is good. Unless they're pulling a crossbell. |
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Red_Salmon said: Shinichi-Kun said: I havent assumed anything lol im always catious of logic also ur post is weird what is with the emoji. Deal with it B| lol! sorry but I have a weird habit of using emojis. And using them excessively in sarcasm (otherwise sarcasm doesn't work online imo) oh i get where ur coming from lol but just try not to use them too much in serious posts because then people wont be able to tell when ur making a joke or being serious |
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logic340 said: It was the first vote and I forgot you did an RVS. Mishu has posted a lot to not have placed a vote yet and you ahd posted a lot without moving yours. Not that there was something better at the time but I try to see when and why people move their votes. I misrepresented you and I apologize for that. Fair Enough np lol |
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| Someone should iso logic posts TheConquerer said: Shinichi-Kun said: @theconquerer What do u think of the game so far and its players? Bascially what do u think about all the interations The ones involving rosie or grapefruit for that matter. Well there's a few people doing all the investigating like most mafia games, then there's a few who pop in and out offering help and then those who do nothing really. Usually one of the big investigative players are scum but thats only if the player is mildly experienced as town. I'd say atm, red salmon is just agreeing with everyone, claire seems town (I don't really remember claire ever being scum), Phraze seems to have been caught out with a mistake, yikes. Sollux and shinichi aren't doing much. Grapey is very opinionated which could be trying to lead town or just their personality. so maybe he's scum but idk. Rosey seems ok atm, I don't think I've ever played with them before. They seem to wish to know about me which at least shows town spirit. Oh wait you're shinichi, I guess you're asking Q's then. Also logic seems to be leading the investigation which is good. Unless they're pulling a crossbell. FInd it funny instead of editing ur post lol you just corrected yourself by adding another line haha Claire has been scum like 2-3 times i think but why do u think she is town? Cant help u on the red salmon part never played with said person before till now. |
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| Grapefruit ISO Slight Town Lean I chose to ISO him since hes pretty much the talk of the game right now and it helped me get a better understanding of his posts. 140 -Here he stated he would paly the lurker role which isnt odd mainly because he told us he will do it instead of just lurking without a reason. Tbh i dont think that line is alignment indictive at all. 154 Now that zymf has posted quite a lot what do you think of him now? Same goes for logic? This post does make me think ur more town aligned than scum align because u answered the question directed at you well with no sign of hestitation. 169 Nothing to say here because I already interacted with this post and got a response from grape fruit. 192 Ik you answered this already but instead of saying trust I think it better to use the word your gut feeling is telling you that mishu may be onto something. Cause you can’t trust anyone espically on day 1 lol. 197 Grape had a relatively fast response to the reason of his vote it be a lot different if he hesitated but that fact that he was able to answer quite quickly means he was paying attention and knew what he was doing. Also the fact he chose the word sheeping instead of trying to make it look like he found the information himself comes off as townlike to me. 244 Do you still like his opinion even tho he hasn’t posted much since the last time? 254 What you should do is iso Rei posts to figure out if said person is actually scum that way you can get the het off yourself and make us understand your POV. |
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| All of Grapefruit21's posts Now, let's begin analysing! Grapefruit had a slow start and needed to catch up. Then, in his first real post (#140) he said: "I might just play the lurker role this game and see how it suits me." - Which is a very anti-town thing to say, but it is not necessarily scummy. He seems very transparent with his many reads and meta. However many of his reads (townread on me and logicand even his vote on RE1301 has no explanation and seem completely baseless. I'm very confused about the quoting-conversation in #197. But from what I understand, you are sheeping Mishukax's read on RE1301 because RE1301 said Mishukax just dropped a bomb and left? That's a pretty bad reason, especially when you can't properly explain it :/ Your scum-hunting is very disorganised, subjective and mostly based on gut feelings. But I can at least see what you are getting at (or at least trying) and following your instincts is more of a townie thing to do, than scum who don't need to rely on instincts to tell who is good or bad. #241 is in fact a very good post! He provides meta-data, is self-critical and he elaborate on his reason for voting RE1301. However, he also says that he read most players on his train as town, which to me is something I would do myself as scum to earn town credit. #244 and #255 is mostly null. He mostly just repeats the things he has already said, thus making his argumentation and reads seem more genuine (whether they are or not). @Grapefruit21, can you elaborate a bit on your #270. It seems quite interesting, but I'm not sure what to make of it. What exactly have been a handy scum-hunting tool for you in past games? And what did you expect Sleipnirr? Vote change: Grapefruit21 I want to hear some more from you and maybe even a claim soon. @Shinichi-kun, lol - We had the same thought :P |
TheConquerer said: Who would you say falls into each category?Shinichi-Kun said: @theconquerer What do u think of the game so far and its players? Bascially what do u think about all the interations The ones involving rosie or grapefruit for that matter. Well there's a few people doing all the investigating like most mafia games, then there's a few who pop in and out offering help and then those who do nothing really. Usually one of the big investigative players are scum but thats only if the player is mildly experienced as town. I'd say atm, red salmon is just agreeing with everyone, claire seems town (I don't really remember claire ever being scum), Phraze seems to have been caught out with a mistake, yikes. Sollux and shinichi aren't doing much. Grapey is very opinionated which could be trying to lead town or just their personality. so maybe he's scum but idk. Rosey seems ok atm, I don't think I've ever played with them before. They seem to wish to know about me which at least shows town spirit. Oh wait you're shinichi, I guess you're asking Q's then. Also logic seems to be leading the investigation which is good. Unless they're pulling a crossbell. there's a few people doing all the investigating like most mafia games: there's a few who pop in and out offering help: those who do nothing really: I assume you are saying there is generally at least 1 deepwolf in the majority of games you have played? This is something I look out for but have not been able to pick up on from game to game. I find that I have generally ended up suspecting the town they are hiding behind. Here is what I can tell you about the players you spoke of: -Red_Salmon I had a town vibe from early but that has waned in more recent times. I can agree with your assessment there. -Claire felt town early to me too but then I notice she hadn't posted as much as I though and wondered where that feeling came from. I haven't looked closely enough at her most recent posting, will do that shortly. -Phraze may have or she's trying another gambit something to pay attention to for sure. I caught her up in this one chronology doesn't match up with what she is saying. -Sollux what are you expecting from him? I think if you do an ISO on him or just look at his posts alone when you read, you will be able to see his though process a little better. I have a town lean there but I have played with him before. -Shinichi your former scum buddy you should know what to look for here. Not sure what to make of him as I am admittedly bad at reading him. -Rosie feel like Rosie which doesn't tell me her alignment. Leaning more town than the other but I have work to do here. -Logic I can only hope my first scum game will be as good as cross in CCL (without the bussing) Red_Salmon said: Placing a vote helps us when looking at interactions and what not later on. Saying you would vote there without doing it doesn't prove your intent. Especially if you feel he is scummier than your current vote.logic340 said: Not at all just calling it what it is while trying to work with you on finding who the scum are. So let's go with possibility #2 you and I are both town who are the scum? How do you feel about Sleipnirr, Grapefruit, Zymf, and Rosie? well! Grape's already got a train going. I needn't switch >.> |
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Shinichi-Kun said: FInd it funny instead of editing ur post lol you just corrected yourself by adding another line haha Claire has been scum like 2-3 times i think but why do u think she is town? Cant help u on the red salmon part never played with said person before till now. Mostly just a lack of anything suspciious on their part. They operate on a pretty different time zone than me so I'm not really able to converse with them most times. @logic340 What kind of gambit do you mean? Also whats an ISO I think if Shin was scum he wouldn't post as much, he kinda hates it. He also spills the beans pretty easily when accused or just gives up. |
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TheConquerer said: 1. IDK myself I just know she tried on in the FT game and I used it to save myself (we were both town). She has completely butchered the chonology of her vote on you and the reasoning for calling you a lurker but she did something similar in FT so not sure how I want to read that right now. Shinichi-Kun said: FInd it funny instead of editing ur post lol you just corrected yourself by adding another line haha Claire has been scum like 2-3 times i think but why do u think she is town? Cant help u on the red salmon part never played with said person before till now. Mostly just a lack of anything suspciious on their part. They operate on a pretty different time zone than me so I'm not really able to converse with them most times. @logic340 What kind of gambit do you mean? Also whats an ISO I think if Shin was scum he wouldn't post as much, he kinda hates it. He also spills the beans pretty easily when accused or just gives up. ISO - "In Search Of" but seems to be short for Isolation as well. I think you may be right but I would need too look at his previous two scum games to see if that holds true. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: _Claire_ said: Because they are fun? You have something again fun then? I only joke because I know people now. Why do you do this kind of jokes anyway, this is 3rd game I am playing with you and so far this is your craziest stun. Is this alignment-indicative? I believe so. If this is my craziest stunt yet, lynch me for being boring. Oyasumi_Rosie said: You voted me because of a joke vote? You are so cruel Claire, at least come up with a good reason. Oyasumi_Rosie said: _Claire_ said: I dont like Zymf's train at the moment, I know its still early in the game but it seems oddly suspicious. I don't like Rosie attitude but it is COMPLETELY different than her 3rd party meta-play I am sure he is not a 3rd party. I dont particularly like it but her 3rd party (i think equal to scum, as he was SK but problem is as SK you could just do whatever heck you want..) is more reserved and hiding behind everyone's read, trying to stay neutral. Honestly Claire, this post shows that you really don't know much about me or how I play.. There was so much going on during those games that most of my lurking was simply because I had no way of checking the forum. I am talking more now simply because I am at home with a computer and I am comfortable around you guys. If you seriously think that is a problem then you need to be straight up with me. Also I really felt like I had to fluffy it up in the game. I was so worried about not meeting the 10 post per day. I just don't want to kick out due to the fact that I don't have much info to share day 1!!! At the very least, you know I am not 3rd I guess. /edit: I wrote thing instead of think... I should have slept.... Very defensive posts here I am not liking it at all so I will keep my vote because you can ask people around your game play is completely different and I believe this is alignment indicative. I think you are trying to hard to look chill. Thats what I think. Anyway I am not having problem with you having fun. I am having problem with you playing very differently. Also I am sorry about my activity. As my other game is dangerously low in activity, I try to post as much as I could to figure out the game to not let the game die out but I won't neglect this game. |
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Red_Salmon said: Morning guys! (well at least its morning here) Just re-read all the pages. Wew! :p @logic340 I'm gonna keep my vote on you. Mainly cuz I feel your townie streak is over :p Been too long. Also, you've been town for so many games that it will probably be easy for you to imitate normie townie behavior. Also it kinda annoys me how everyone just assumes you're town ;p I was suspecting you, Rosie and grape to be scum because rosie was acting erratically but you tried to help her (sorta)(albeit after a vote on her which probably could be a bluff) But rosie's latest posts are making me think against this line of reasoning. You think her previous posts before this is justified? |
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Red_Salmon said: TheConquerer said: Well only received my pm last night... But i gotta admit My twin is the only sibling I need. Indeed indeed! The only sibling we all need :p Welcome aboard man :) Oyasumi_Rosie said: Everything about this post rubs me the wrong way. Sticking with the logic vote because there is a change that he just might have rolled a scum role finally feels bad. Though I understand feeling annoyed with everyone town reading one person for seemingly no reason. I am totally surprised see my behavior as erratic but I guess that is what I get for being trapped in my own brain. I am for sure town though. What about my post is making you think again a me/logic/grape scum team? Well I don't suspect you anymore. I was basing my theory on you changing votes so often but decided to rethink when Grape and Claire both said that that's how you play mostly. No that is not how she plays. In the recent game, she almost never changes her vote, thats why I am very suspicious of her. I think you are misunderstanding. |
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logic340 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Can you walk me through how you realized Zymf was town from that post? I'm not understanding your reasoning or though process on this one.What, so you argument is that because everyone as a passive ability unrelated to their role, that some how makes them all roles? Dude, come on. You got a twin flavored town PM. If you are talking about what I think you are, I am pretty sure that everyone has that ability regardless of town At least we know Zymf is town. One crossed off the list. Unvote If you have a problem with the Guidelines, take it up with the people who created them. For now deal with the fact that this isn't role madness and the mods aren't lying to you. A much more emotional Rosie. Not sure if this is frustrated town or scum though. Will need time t consider this slot. _Claire_ said: I see where you are coming from SK does feel like a scum role since they are tasked with killing off town. The difference I find is they are just as in the dark as to who is who based on nature of TPR. My thing with Rosie is being that her first two games were TPR she is having to learn how to be Town now.@Sleipnirr Kaito's metaplay at the moment, I would say its his usual (scum) attitude by just replying to posts and such. Usually as day 2/3 go, he will post even more ridiculously empty posts, so I am expecting to get a clearer read on him. I dont like Zymf's train at the moment, I know its still early in the game but it seems oddly suspicious. I don't like Rosie attitude but it is COMPLETELY different than her 3rd party meta-play I am sure he is not a 3rd party. I dont particularly like it but her 3rd party (i think equal to scum, as he was SK but problem is as SK you could just do whatever heck you want..) is more reserved and hiding behind everyone's read, trying to stay neutral. I need your statement and opinion, what you think of Rosie game? Do you think it was similar to previous games? If not what is different? |
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I didn't actually think the hosts were part of the game, I thought Miku, Rin, and Len were assignable roles to players. Which was really stupid because the number of players (14) didn't match with the number of total roles. Phraze said: ok. got any questions for me? Not really, I just hope you don't mind me keeping my vote on you for a little longer until I get some answers. I'm very curious that Grapefruit21 and Mishukax would be suspicious of me for different reasons, so I'm interested in hearing Mishukax's thoughts on Grapefruit21's reasoning. Also, @Grapefruit21 (or anyone who has played with you before), are you usually this sure if someone's scum based on very little evidence? While I can believe you that your vote change is a result of rereading and reanalyzing, it seems only you are picking up on it, and it's made you suspicious. I'll be back in a little over an hour (class). |
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