C-Core said: It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. The attacks bounce back of it. Avalon Saber>Gilgamesh. Not even a question anymore. P.S she already defeated him in Fate. |
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| Obviously a lot of people care about UBW getting a TV series. But, even as a pro-HF guy, I think it would be better suited to a movie series. Less censorship would really help the route, imo. Though, that's only if it's a movie series. One movie would be bad. |
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Hexenmeister said: C-Core said: It's you who doesn't get it. So Gil can't hit her when she's inside Avalon, so what? She can't hit him, so she cannot defeat Gil if he ever gets serious. So no, Avalon Saber > Gilgamesh is wrong. how can she not "hit him" when she clearly attacked him while using avalon in the visual novel fate route? they already fought and she won. why is this even an argument? nothing gilgamesh owns can attack saber and she can clearly attack gilgamesh. Gilgamesh on Vimana. I already said that. Tell me how Saber is supposed to hit him when he is flying in the air all the time. In Fate, Avalon blocks Ea's attack and Gilgamesh can't stop it. If he bothered to go range like a proper Archer she is dead. The difference in their fight was also the info they gathered. Gil knew about Excalibur, so he willingly used Ea against her, but he didn't know about Avalon. Saber on the other hand knew about his Ea, because he showed it to her. You're right, this isn't even an argument. Saber cannot defeat a serious Gilgamesh. |
C-Core said: Hexenmeister said: how can she not "hit him" when she clearly attacked him while using avalon in the visual novel fate route? they already fought and she won. why is this even an argument? nothing gilgamesh owns can attack saber and she can clearly attack gilgamesh. Gilgamesh on Vimana. I already said that. Tell me how Saber is supposed to hit him when he is flying in the air all the time. In Fate, Avalon blocks Ea's attack and Gilgamesh can't stop it. If he bothered to go range like a proper Archer she is dead. The difference in their fight was also the info they gathered. Gil knew about Excalibur, so he willingly used Ea against her, but he didn't know about Avalon. Saber on the other hand knew about his Ea, because he showed it to her. You're right, this isn't even an argument. Saber cannot defeat a serious Gilgamesh. Even if Gilgamesh get's serious and uses Vimana the best he can do is fire weapons from a distance which literally does nothing against avalon. She could sleep there and he couldn't touch her. I did say "Gilgamesh is still the strongest servant so far in dealing damage." but there's no way he can beat avalon Saber. AND excalibur's range is 1-99 which is the highest range shown in noble phantasms. let's just leave it at gilgamesh is the strongest in dealing damage but he can't beat saber. |
Source: said: Gilgamesh [Servant] The Archer of the previous Grail War. Mankind's oldest king of heroes, who defeated Saber. For more details, refer to his status screen in the game. As no proper Heroic Spirit can match this man, he could be called the "Servant Killer". Without a doubt, he is the strongest existence amongst the Servants. Though he lost due to obsession against Saber… Though he lost due to pride against Shirou… Though he lost due to carelessness against XXXXX… …the fact of the matter is that if he actually gets serious, he is a Servant that cannot be rivaled. There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. Btw, that's not the only material book where it's stated that no one can beat him. But it's essentially the same. Gil loses every time because of his pride and arrogance. |
CapsuleCoreJul 27, 2014 1:03 PM
| I am sorry guys, but I keep laughing at all the saber wank that is going on. DOn't tell me you are taking the troll seriously? |
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| This "Avalon Saber>Gil" gives me cancer. |
Fai said: I am sorry guys, but I keep laughing at all the saber wank that is going on. DOn't tell me you are taking the troll seriously? I actually was taking this seriously, because I usually assume it's not a troll, but just someone who doesn't know enough. Perhaps it was wrong doing so. |
| My body was not ready...That's the only thing that I can muster up right now... I am beyond hyped |
| I love how this subforum has around 4k posts and there are still 3 months before airing. Well, I guess that's the power of Rin+Archer for ya. |
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C-Core said: Source: said: Gilgamesh [Servant] The Archer of the previous Grail War. Mankind's oldest king of heroes, who defeated Saber. For more details, refer to his status screen in the game. As no proper Heroic Spirit can match this man, he could be called the "Servant Killer". Without a doubt, he is the strongest existence amongst the Servants. Though he lost due to obsession against Saber… Though he lost due to pride against Shirou… Though he lost due to carelessness against XXXXX… …the fact of the matter is that if he actually gets serious, he is a Servant that cannot be rivaled. There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. He can't even beat Shirou |
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C-Core said: Source: said: Gilgamesh [Servant] The Archer of the previous Grail War. Mankind's oldest king of heroes, who defeated Saber. For more details, refer to his status screen in the game. As no proper Heroic Spirit can match this man, he could be called the "Servant Killer". Without a doubt, he is the strongest existence amongst the Servants. Though he lost due to obsession against Saber… Though he lost due to pride against Shirou… Though he lost due to carelessness against XXXXX… …the fact of the matter is that if he actually gets serious, he is a Servant that cannot be rivaled. There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. I know that Gil is the strongest servant. I even said it first. But he cannot beat avalon saber. |
Hexenmeister said: When he gets serious, he can NOT be rivaled. Get that through your head.C-Core said: There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. I know that Gil is the strongest servant. I even said it first. But he cannot beat avalon saber. |
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Hexenmeister said: C-Core said: There. Word of God. But protest all you want that he can't beat Saber. I know that Gil is the strongest servant. I even said it first. But he cannot beat avalon saber. She can't keep Avalon up all day. |
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| That's not the only material book where it's stated that no one can beat him. But it's essentially the same. Gil loses every time because of his pride and arrogance. I bolded a certain part in his entry, but you seemed to ignore the " Though he lost due to obsession against Saber… " part. Nasu is essentially saying Saber won't beat him in serious mode. |
Botato said: Hexenmeister said: When he gets serious, he can NOT be rivaled. Get that through your head.I know that Gil is the strongest servant. I even said it first. But he cannot beat avalon saber. Archer can rival him, he's Gil's natural enemy. |
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antonn said: Botato said: When he gets serious, he can NOT be rivaled. Get that through your head. Archer can rival him, he's Gil's natural enemy. UBW is indeed a counter against GoB, but I don't think a serious Gil would let Archer summon it. |
antonn said: Botato said: When he gets serious, he can NOT be rivaled. Get that through your head. Archer can rival him, he's Gil's natural enemy. Not if GIl treats him seriously.. Are we ignoring the fact that fullpower GIl is |
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| I have mixed feelings about this. I am glad that it is not HF, but at the same time sad because I was kinda hoping for unique/mixed route. Anyway as long as ending is "good" I won't complain. |
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Fai said: antonn said: Archer can rival him, he's Gil's natural enemy. Not if GIl treats him seriously.. Are we ignoring the fact that fullpower GIl is |
HexenmeisterJul 27, 2014 1:24 PM
Botato said: That's because Rin is the bestest :) I love how this subforum has around 4k posts and there are still 3 months before airing. Well, I guess that's the power of Rin+Archer for ya. Also, Rin + Archer = Best Duo <3 |
Sparteh said: I have mixed feelings about this. I am glad that it is not HF, but at the same time sad because I was kinda hoping for unique/mixed route. Anyway as long as ending is "good" I won't complain.  |
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| Amazing news since Fate Zero is my reason to start watching anime and still my favorite. I think I'm okay whit ubw because it has good ending.(Rin + Shirou + Saber) Poor Illya tough... |
Hexenmeister said: Fai said: Not if GIl treats him seriously.. Are we ignoring the fact that fullpower GIl is Really...? The title of Enuma Elish is "The Star of Creation that Split Heaven and Earth" , an anti-world NP. He could destroy everything, but there's no point in doing this. He doesn't need to ever use it because he can just pulverize everyone into nothing without it from above. To think Avalon Saber could ever defeat a serious Gil is ridiculous, when Nasu himself said that there is no Servant who could ever defeat him if he gets serious. |
| I don't know anything about this route thing because I never read visual novel Is this going to be a different story than original first fate/stye night ? And didn't we already have unlimited blade movie. Is this upcoming TV series doing the same story but covers more details like more character development or something ? I do hope it is different because it would be boring to watch the same shit again. |
Forgetfulness said: cemlat said: You mean one of the endings has that. We don't know which one they're doing thoughAmazing news since Fate Zero is my reason to start watching anime and still my favorite. I think I'm okay whit ubw because it has good ending.(Rin + Shirou + Saber) Poor Illya tough... Oh yeah I totally forget the other one but still not very depressing.... |
thepath said: I don't know anything about this route thing because I never read visual novel Is this going to be a different story than original first fate/stye night ? And didn't we already have unlimited blade movie. Is this upcoming TV series doing the same story but covers more details like more character development or something ? I do hope it is different because it would be boring to watch the same shit again. The Visual Novel has three routes. 2006 anime: More or less the first route 2010 (I think) UBW movie: Utter crap. What same story? There was almost no story in that movie. It was a fanservice for those who actually read the route, so if you already watched it, I am sorry to tell you that it's a more detailed adaptation of it. |
thepath said: I don't know anything about this route thing because I never read visual novel Is this going to be a different story than original first fate/stye night ? And didn't we already have unlimited blade movie. Is this upcoming TV series doing the same story but covers more details like more character development or something ? I do hope it is different because it would be boring to watch the same shit again. Every route is an entirely different storyline with entirely different character development directions and entirely different outcomes. |
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| That's some positive reactions from Fai and ssjokg, but i'm optimistic as well, and i hope that HF will be a serie of movies like KnK (can i dream about a Superhero and Sparks Liner High being animated ?) on a side note, i don't like the director, as he wasn't successful in the past. |
JaogetsuJul 27, 2014 2:01 PM
| THe 6th story was the weakest in the LN as well. I dont know if there is any point in bashing him for that.The movie at least was easier to watch than the LN was to read. |
| Well this is certainly good news.. Always favored UBW over the others The movie was average and it didn't go in depth of a lot of things.. And well CGI dolphins.. Hopefully they stick with the dub cast from the movie with Higgins as Saber I guess HF will do a movie series? How many? There's a lot of content that can't fit in one movie |
L2 said: JoaoZangetsu said: on a side note, i don't like the director, as he wasn't successful in the past. Ohhhh boy, little bit of my hype got killed right there. maybe i was too harsh hahaha, but let's say that what he showed until now as director is something average at best, but he can be a surprise as he just did the weakest KnK movie and directed some episodes/parts in F/Z. Also, Nasu betraying his word and making a script for a Fate online RPG/MMO, i hope this don't delay Tsukihime remake. |
JaogetsuJul 27, 2014 2:42 PM
HikariJake said: Saber is my favourte waifu. But UBW and HF where just better man. WolfChaos said: Kinda pissed off. I REALLY wanted Ufotable to do another adaptation of Fate. Because Saber is best girl. I agree Saber is best girl, but come on. This is awesome. HF still has a little Saber route in it. And UBW has that Good ending version 2. Also in both routes as Shiro's servant she was never really away. |
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Forgetfulness said: I don't know why we have to keep repeating facts.WolfChaos said: Nope. Rin = best girlKinda pissed off. I REALLY wanted Ufotable to do another adaptation of Fate. Because Saber is best girl. |
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Botato said: Forgetfulness said: I don't know why we have to keep repeating facts.Nope. Sakura = best girl Indeed. |
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antonn said: Why do things always break when you quote them? Don't worry though, I fixed it.Botato said: I don't know why we have to keep repeating facts. Indeed. |
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| Waifu wars... *sigh* |
| We should make an official best girl thread. |
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C-Core said: Waifu wars... *sigh* Fine. Lancer best guy. |
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Botato said: Forgetfulness said: I don't know why we have to keep repeating facts.Nope. Rin = best girl Because you guys are the only Rin fans around here. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Resistance is futile, just accept that Saber owns. |
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| we're getting a tv series and a movie. i have nothing to complain about. also saber = best girl |
antonn said: Fixed.C-Core said: Waifu wars... *sigh* Fine. Archer best guy. |
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Botato said: antonn said: Fixed.Fine. Archer best guy. Botato's sig. |
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Botato said: antonn said: Fixed.Fine. Archer best guy. *slow claps* |
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