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I blocked a MAL user on discord after she went on an ableist tyrade about how Autistic people can't work as detectives or in police jobs and then started calling me out as "Gaslighting her" when i pointed out that not only is that wrong it's ableist and then argued against her with her saying i'm autistic i can't think like a normal person or feel empathy etc because i'm not "normal" along with other stuff like Autistic people can't read body language or become good at it (yes they can there is a deficit but that can be learnt wtf).
I blocked them because holy shit that's not only incorrect on every point but also toxic as shit.
But my favourite quote would be in reply to my comment of "and even then body language reading can be learnt" to which i got "It can’t entirely be learnt. Second nature always has the upper hand The only thing that can be learnt is what a guy with a piece of paper knows himself" which completely ignores how a lot of children learn body language LMAO
Does that count as blocking someone for having a different opinion.
Edit: Another funny qoute from this person when they found out my highschool back in the days ended at 3pm "3pm is literally proof of lack of education."
I blocked them because holy shit that's not only incorrect on every point but also toxic as shit.
But my favourite quote would be in reply to my comment of "and even then body language reading can be learnt" to which i got "It can’t entirely be learnt. Second nature always has the upper hand The only thing that can be learnt is what a guy with a piece of paper knows himself" which completely ignores how a lot of children learn body language LMAO
Does that count as blocking someone for having a different opinion.
Edit: Another funny qoute from this person when they found out my highschool back in the days ended at 3pm "3pm is literally proof of lack of education."
| @RyuRabbit I don't know her. I don't know you. But I think she was right. Autistic people shouldn't be detectives. They often lack perception, focus and don't deal well with stress or trauma. Maybe that's what she meant with the body-language argument. You're not picking up on it as well as a "normal" person. That's just a fact. Just an opinion, tho. I know that they/you CAN actually have that job, legally, in many cases^^ But... You're from Australia. 2022 1.1% of your population was diagnosed with autism. So, statistically speaking, she was right. It's not normal, in your country, to be autistic. You blocked her, for speaking the truth and not giving you empathy. |
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Purple_Gh0st24 said: I'm just going to address this because it made me facepalm. You missed the point of that thread. The individual tests I linked to are irrelevant. I was expressing interest in these types of tests, and asked if anyone had more to share. I only shared the ones I happened to find. Hell, I even asked if there was a test like this for conservatives. Are you incapable of reading? Well, gee, it's almost as though people will have different results than you. What a wild thought! In a thread where people can share their results in some dumb test, the OP would naturally share theirs too. What were you expecting? So you're triggered that I responded to information that was presented. lol. I did not miss the point (an assumption you made about me with no basis or evidence...why does that feel familiar?), but I am free to discuss things that were plainly visible and, dare I say, prominent. You did not make it less prominent by mentioning conservativism...as if no one would be inclined to discuss politics and economics after all that. (Even more so after taking the first test. Notice how that one was mostly what others shared their results for.) You denied that the thread involved capitalism and socialism, when it very clearly did. (A level of denial that is incomprehensible.) I never said the main point of your thread was that. Just because people don't reply to your thread in the way you wanted them to does not mean they did not understand the simple words you posted that even a young child could immediately comprehend. In a thread where people can share their results on a political and economic test, those topics would naturally be discussed. What were you expecting? This is yet another example of you committing logical fallacies while offering nothing of substance. |
SmugSatokoApr 8, 5:00 PM
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SmugSatoko said: I defend the truth. If you profess a falsehood, I may call you out on it, possibly regardless of the topic. Let's do this scenario because it seems like it is a bit hard to talk in abstract terms A person enters your country. Afterwards, the person gets a legal permission to be in your country. A new administration comes in and decides to persecute a group of people. This person has no criminal record, nor have they violated any law. However, this person comes from the country of such a group. Since this person has tattoos, they decided that the person should be accused of being part of their group. Afterwards, the person is deported to a prison for a crime they never committed while following all the possible rules. What would you call the motive behind detaining someone without proof based on their nationality? What would you call campaigning on such an outcome? What would you call pushing a policy that states this as the correct way of doing things? |
Gween_Gween said: Let's do this scenario because it seems like it is a bit hard to talk in abstract terms A person enters your country. Afterwards, the person gets a legal permission to be in your country. A new administration comes in and decides to persecute a group of people. This person has no criminal record, nor have they violated any law. However, this person comes from the country of such a group. Since this person has tattoos, they decided that the person should be accused of being part of their group. Afterwards, the person is deported to a prison for a crime they never committed while following all the possible rules. What would you call the motive behind detaining someone without proof based on their nationality? What would you call campaigning on such an outcome? What would you call pushing a policy that states this as the correct way of doing things? Nationality and race are two separate things. Try again. |
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Gween_Gween said:
Let's do this scenario because it seems like it is a bit hard to talk in abstract terms
A person enters your country. Afterwards, the person gets a legal permission to be in your country. A new administration comes in and decides to persecute a group of people. This person has no criminal record, nor have they violated any law. However, this person comes from the country of such a group. Since this person has tattoos, they decided that the person should be accused of being part of their group. Afterwards, the person is deported to a prison for a crime they never committed while following all the possible rules.
What would you call the motive behind detaining someone without proof based on their nationality? What would you call campaigning on such an outcome? What would you call pushing a policy that states this as the correct way of doing things?
Let's do this scenario because it seems like it is a bit hard to talk in abstract terms
A person enters your country. Afterwards, the person gets a legal permission to be in your country. A new administration comes in and decides to persecute a group of people. This person has no criminal record, nor have they violated any law. However, this person comes from the country of such a group. Since this person has tattoos, they decided that the person should be accused of being part of their group. Afterwards, the person is deported to a prison for a crime they never committed while following all the possible rules.
What would you call the motive behind detaining someone without proof based on their nationality? What would you call campaigning on such an outcome? What would you call pushing a policy that states this as the correct way of doing things?
Nationality and race are two separate things. Try again.
| @SmugSatoko Such a stupid distinction, can you answer my question? What would you call it? |
| Never have adherents of a movement crippled their movement more than online libertarians. Why can't any of you be like Bryan Caplan, Alex Nowrasteh, Tyler Cowen or even Richard Hanania? |
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Gween_Gween said: Such a stupid distinction, It's not stupid at all. There is a big difference between a nation and different groups of people, especially considering that many nations are racially diverse. What's stupid is not being able to grasp such an obvious distinction...and more importantly, your bizarre obsession with racism to the point that you imagine it even when it isn't there, and you immediately jump to it when someone criticizes leftism, as if there aren't more important things to worry about. I wasn't even thinking about racism at all until you brought it up. In case you never noticed, right-libertarianism is about equal basic rights for everyone, making it inherently non-racist. So you picked a poor topic to respond with. can you answer my question? What would you call it? You asked multiple questions, so I will address them. Gween_Gween said: What would you call the motive behind detaining someone without proof based on their nationality? There could be different motives, depending on who is doing it and why. There is insufficient information to conclude a motive based only on this broad description. If you want to use the aforementioned real world example, the stated motive for deporting the 200+ men is to protect the country from a transnational cartel designated as a terrorist organization. The fact that some of them appear to have nothing to do with that criminal group is a result of incompetence, like not accurately identifying which individuals are true members. Also, it was not merely based on their nationality; it was based on things like gang-affiliated tattoos. If it was based only on nationality, everyone from that nation would have been targeted. What would you call campaigning on such an outcome? What would you call pushing a policy that states this as the correct way of doing things? Political suicide. Admitting you intend to imprison people for crimes they did not commit is not a good look. Auron said: Never have adherents of a movement crippled their movement more than online libertarians. How have libertarians "crippled their movement" by using the internet to communicate? Why can't any of you be like Bryan Caplan, Alex Nowrasteh, Tyler Cowen or even Richard Hanania? You mean why can't we become professional economists? lol |
SmugSatokoApr 9, 9:46 AM
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SmugSatoko said: How have libertarians "crippled their movement" by using the internet to communicate? I mean, I'm sure you know the reputation of the average internet libertarian is down in the gutter. And I think there's probably a reason for that, that the libertarians themselves contributed to some degree. SmugSatoko said: You mean why can't we become professional economists? lol I'm not an economist either! I meant that the examples were all likeable and nice people whom you want to talk to. And they're also very consistent. They're going to be libertarian not just on guns and taxes, but also on immigration, also on abortion, also on housing development etc. Not to say you aren't but there is a different energy I'm getting from those people, who would never defend Trump's extrajudicial off to El Salvador memes. |
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Auron said: I mean, I'm sure you know the reputation of the average internet libertarian is down in the gutter. And I think there's probably a reason for that, that the libertarians themselves contributed to some degree. There are numerous reasons...but I think the main one is simply that so many disagree with its core principles and favor tyranny, although most won't admit it. The self-evident idea that you own your own life and should be able to do what you wish with it is somehow too groundbreaking. I'm not an economist either! Pretty sure you don't identify as a libertarian, though. I only associate with the title because I don't know a better word to describe my political stance. I meant that the examples were all likeable and nice people whom you want to talk to. I'm friendly with friends, and polite with strangers in person. When arguing online, I can be pretty darn provocative. Not only does it serve to express my moral indignation, but it also may increase the likelihood of actually getting a response. (Unless they're the all-too-common cowards who refuse to defend their own views.) I am certainly more courteous with those like yourself who communicate in a more calm, neutral manner. And they're also very consistent. They're going to be libertarian not just on guns and taxes, but also on immigration, also on abortion, also on housing development etc. Libertarianism is a fairly wide assortment of views, ranging from conservatism to anarchy. Right-libertarians are generally economically conservative and socially progressive minarchists. Plenty oppose abortion because they want to be logically consistent and extend the right to life to all human life. There are different ways of looking at these things, so logical consistency itself is a variable factor. Not to say you aren't but there is a different energy I'm getting from those people, Bro...you watched the first season of Higurashi, along with Gou and Sotsu, but not the second season Kai? Kai is leagues better than anything that came after it and explains the mysteries from the first season. (Although you were spoiled in that regard by the new seasons.) The first two seasons are the reason it's my favorite anime. who would never defend Trump's extrajudicial off to El Salvador memes. As I covered, I only defend deportation insofar as it applies to those who illegally entered the country. (And perhaps some of the more dangerous criminals.) |
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Auron said:
I mean, I'm sure you know the reputation of the average internet libertarian is down in the gutter. And I think there's probably a reason for that, that the libertarians themselves contributed to some degree.
I mean, I'm sure you know the reputation of the average internet libertarian is down in the gutter. And I think there's probably a reason for that, that the libertarians themselves contributed to some degree.
There are numerous reasons...but I think the main one is simply that so many disagree with its core principles and favor tyranny, although most won't admit it. The self-evident idea that you own your own life and should be able to do what you wish with it is somehow too groundbreaking.
I'm not an economist either!
Pretty sure you don't identify as a libertarian, though. I only associate with the title because I don't know a better word to describe my political stance.
I meant that the examples were all likeable and nice people whom you want to talk to.
I'm friendly with friends, and polite with strangers in person.
When arguing online, I can be pretty darn provocative. Not only does it serve to express my moral indignation, but it also may increase the likelihood of actually getting a response. (Unless they're the all-too-common cowards who refuse to defend their own views.)
I am certainly more courteous with those like yourself who communicate in a more calm, neutral manner.
And they're also very consistent. They're going to be libertarian not just on guns and taxes, but also on immigration, also on abortion, also on housing development etc.
Libertarianism is a fairly wide assortment of views, ranging from conservatism to anarchy. Right-libertarians are generally economically conservative and socially progressive minarchists.
Plenty oppose abortion because they want to be logically consistent and extend the right to life to all human life. There are different ways of looking at these things, so logical consistency itself is a variable factor.
Not to say you aren't but there is a different energy I'm getting from those people,
Bro...you watched the first season of Higurashi, along with Gou and Sotsu, but not the second season Kai? Kai is leagues better than anything that came after it and explains the mysteries from the first season. (Although you were spoiled in that regard by the new seasons.) The first two seasons are the reason it's my favorite anime.
who would never defend Trump's extrajudicial off to El Salvador memes.
As I covered, I only defend deportation insofar as it applies to those who illegally entered the country. (And perhaps some of the more dangerous criminals.)
SmugSatoko said: Bro...you watched the first season of Higurashi, along with Gou and Sotsu, but not the second season Kai? Kai is leagues better than anything that came after it and explains the mysteries from the first season. (Although you were spoiled in that regard by the new seasons.) The first two seasons are the reason it's my favorite anime. I have already played the VN (as well as most of the side stories) before I watched any of the anime, so that was the reason for the hold-up lol. It's already one of my favorite pieces of fiction along with Umineko, but having played the VN first, the anime just feels way too rushed. I'll eventually watch it, I know there is an anime only arc in Kai, and I vowed to finish all the arcs some day, but at the time I played it many weren't translated yet (Still haven't seen Kageboushi, Tokihogushi, Outbreak, Kamikashimashi and Mehagashi iirc those were all) Fair enough on the abortion point, that was kind of filler with the other ones. Although being anti-immigration or NIMBY does to me appear very anti-liberty. I don't identify as a libertarian, I'd moreso say market-oriented liberal, or I guess classical liberal is the meme word. In effect I don't have that many disagreements with someone like Scott Sumner or Tyler Cowen. I believe in state capacity for projects like high speed rail, expansion of broadband, effective bureaucracy that cuts the red tape etc. but in general I'm quite pro-market and want deregulation with respect to labor markets (like certificate of need laws limiting medical practice, or restrictive occupational licensing, or policies against at will employment), I'm against unions for critical industries like dock workers, or rail workers. Zoning reform should be more permissive for development. Entitlement reform in the direction of mandatory private savings before the dependency ratio gets even higher. An order of magnitude higher number of temporary visas with renewal for the eligible population. No tolerance for rent controls or even any type of price controls, even for concert tickets lol. For now inclined against minimum wage laws (though not certain on it as the research there is conflicting). There probably should be a market for kidneys even. |
AuronApr 9, 12:01 PM
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| @SmugSatoko You're still salty about that? Alright, if you want it so badly, post your address. We can look for a venue to host the debate and find a moderator to moderate the debate. The moderator can give us a research period prior to the debate and set rules for it. |
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Purple_Gh0st24 said: You're still salty about that? Alright, if you want it so badly, post your address. We can look for a venue to host the debate and find a moderator to moderate the debate. The moderator can give us a research period prior to the debate and set rules for it. You can't be serious. If you wanted to defend your beliefs and show how I am supposedly wrong, you would have done so. I gave you many opportunities and you failed to respond to all but a few minor points. If you really cared about all this, you would not have ignored the literal pages of information I wrote. Notice how I often don't hesitate to respond to every point someone makes, quoting each segment and explaining in detail...a far cry from your "make an insult and run away" approach. But you're nothing special...my coward comment was about so many others I have encountered. |
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Purple_Gh0st24 said:
You're still salty about that? Alright, if you want it so badly, post your address. We can look for a venue to host the debate and find a moderator to moderate the debate. The moderator can give us a research period prior to the debate and set rules for it.
You're still salty about that? Alright, if you want it so badly, post your address. We can look for a venue to host the debate and find a moderator to moderate the debate. The moderator can give us a research period prior to the debate and set rules for it.
You can't be serious. If you wanted to defend your beliefs and show how I am supposedly wrong, you would have done so. I gave you many opportunities and you failed to respond to all but a few minor points. If you really cared about all this, you would not have ignored the literal pages of information I wrote. Notice how I often don't hesitate to respond to every point someone makes, quoting each segment and explaining in detail...a far cry from your "make an insult and run away" approach. But you're nothing special...my coward comment was about so many others I have encountered.
| @SmugSatoko Alright, so you don't want a real debate. Suit yourself. |
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Purple_Gh0st24 said: Alright, so you don't want a real debate. Suit yourself. Ridiculous. No one in their right mind would accept an in-person debate challenge from a stranger (not to mention a foreigner) who has actively avoided any semblance of debate. I'll tell you what. Instead of doxing myself, I'll give you an address that will come in handy. You can go there for a preliminary screening and explain how you want to destroy our country. I'm sure they'll appreciate your "wisdom" and "reward" you accordingly. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 USA |
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@RyuRabbit
I don't know her. I don't know you.
But I think she was right.
Autistic people shouldn't be detectives. They often lack perception, focus and don't deal well with stress or trauma. Maybe that's what she meant with the body-language argument. You're not picking up on it as well as a "normal" person. That's just a fact.
Just an opinion, tho. I know that they/you CAN actually have that job, legally, in many cases^^
But...
You're from Australia.
2022 1.1% of your population was diagnosed with autism.
So, statistically speaking, she was right. It's not normal, in your country, to be autistic.
You blocked her, for speaking the truth and not giving you empathy.
I don't know her. I don't know you.
But I think she was right.
Autistic people shouldn't be detectives. They often lack perception, focus and don't deal well with stress or trauma. Maybe that's what she meant with the body-language argument. You're not picking up on it as well as a "normal" person. That's just a fact.
Just an opinion, tho. I know that they/you CAN actually have that job, legally, in many cases^^
But...
You're from Australia.
2022 1.1% of your population was diagnosed with autism.
So, statistically speaking, she was right. It's not normal, in your country, to be autistic.
You blocked her, for speaking the truth and not giving you empathy.
| @Merve2Love She was right to a degree. autism is a spectrum this is not the case for all autistic people. One of my mates is an Autistic guy who is a police detective that does a banger of a job. Also autistic people can't read it naturally but they can learn and in some cases can perform better with body language than non-autistic people but that takes a lot of effort and learning. For a lot of Autistic people for sure they wouldn't fit. Frankly i couldn't be one as i haven't taught myself body language nor care to i know from my friend it takes way too much effort. But yeah my mate is living proof that they can not all Autistic people nor most but it's not a simple always Nope situation. But the stuff about how Autistic people can't feel empathy is a solid wtf to me and was my final straw. |
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@Merve2Love
She was right to a degree.
autism is a spectrum this is not the case for all autistic people.
One of my mates is an Autistic guy who is a police detective that does a banger of a job.
Also autistic people can't read it naturally but they can learn and in some cases can perform better with body language than non-autistic people but that takes a lot of effort and learning.
For a lot of Autistic people for sure they wouldn't fit.
Frankly i couldn't be one as i haven't taught myself body language nor care to i know from my friend it takes way too much effort.
But yeah my mate is living proof that they can not all Autistic people nor most but it's not a simple always Nope situation.
But the stuff about how Autistic people can't feel empathy is a solid wtf to me and was my final straw.
She was right to a degree.
autism is a spectrum this is not the case for all autistic people.
One of my mates is an Autistic guy who is a police detective that does a banger of a job.
Also autistic people can't read it naturally but they can learn and in some cases can perform better with body language than non-autistic people but that takes a lot of effort and learning.
For a lot of Autistic people for sure they wouldn't fit.
Frankly i couldn't be one as i haven't taught myself body language nor care to i know from my friend it takes way too much effort.
But yeah my mate is living proof that they can not all Autistic people nor most but it's not a simple always Nope situation.
But the stuff about how Autistic people can't feel empathy is a solid wtf to me and was my final straw.
RyuRabbit said: She was right to a degree. Yeah, she was. I don't have anything against Autistic people. But just as you said: Most of them shouldn't work as police. I think that's what she meant. Don't let it get to you. I say unblock her and move on. Don't be a baby about it^^ |
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RyuRabbit said:
She was right to a degree.
She was right to a degree.
Yeah, she was.
I don't have anything against Autistic people. But just as you said: Most of them shouldn't work as police.
I think that's what she meant.
Don't let it get to you. I say unblock her and move on. Don't be a baby about it^^
| @Merve2Love no point in unblocking when they had a history before this of attacking me and belittling me and telling me i don't have empathy nor feel emotions xD I'm not that much of a masochist to allow that sorta shit fly |
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@Merve2Love no point in unblocking when they had a history before this of attacking me and belittling me and telling me i don't have empathy nor feel emotions xD
I'm not that much of a masochist to allow that sorta shit fly
I'm not that much of a masochist to allow that sorta shit fly
| @RyuRabbit It doesn't really matter to me. But what history? The history of disagreeing with you?^^ Cmon, that's not how an adult should behave. |
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@RyuRabbit
It doesn't really matter to me.
But what history?
The history of disagreeing with you?^^
Cmon, that's not how an adult should behave.
It doesn't really matter to me.
But what history?
The history of disagreeing with you?^^
Cmon, that's not how an adult should behave.
| @Merve2Love No a history of being an awful friend and human altogether. they would consistently belittle me about things in my life saying it was wrong to flirt back with my friend who was flirting with me. Telling me that i don't have empathy because i'm Autistic and that i'm dumb because of it...? Gaslighting me insulting me then telling me i was making shit up when i said that it wasn't ok. Calling me slurs and telling me because i claim to have empathy and went through university that i was clearly misdiagnosed. Telling me that people can't change and it's pointless to ever try after telling me that i'm stupid for forgiving someone close to me who used to lash out at me because they changed as a person and they were in a traumatic place at the time. and a bunch more but genuinely they were getting too much to handle so their difference in opinion was my final straw. They were a good friend until like the final month and they showed their true selves i was holding out hope that this behaviour was temporary until i blocked them due to the difference in opinion it was the final straw so to speak. |
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