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Jun 24, 2022 2:34 PM
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You know what i do kind of feel sorry for Sayu and I think she probaly ran away from home because from not just her mother. Yeah her mother did say that she wish that she never gave brith to her which was cross the line but this tells how people what happens in close doors. And i cried When mother said that to sayu i believe yusida seen this before maybe he been there. But her mother really needs help because i think but some people saying that their just angry they dont really mean but you can tell that her mother is mentally sick because she only cares about herself but what can you do sitation like that if you had saw someone else mother that was like that
Aug 19, 2022 2:47 PM
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at 10:50 someone just learned about adoption... ah never mind.
Oct 14, 2022 4:23 PM
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kyou_on said:
Everyone who complains about forced drama must be living a good life I guess.

If you’d lived with a mentally ill person before, you wouldn’t say the same. Their actions are not suppose to make any sense to normal human being. At one moment they could be laughing and then proceed to cry for no reason. I have a relative who always breaks down when we visit her.

Sayu’s mom is obviously a case of narcissism. She thinks the world revolves around her and everyone should be obeying her. Narcissist usually have extreme ego and that’s why she broke down when Yoshida and brother went down on four begging her to take care of Sayu properly. In her mind, she thinks she’s being humiliated and bullied by a stranger telling how to raise kid. She can’t accept it so she told them off.

As you can see, she still doesn’t want to listen to anybody even after calming down. The best she can do is continue living like before Sayu ran away. Sayu realized that her mom won’t be changing at all. That’s why she tells Yoshida that she will be the one who will tolerate and improve their relationship.

This is actually the correct action to take in real life. Either you tolerate them or leave them. Forcing them to change is futile. The best you could do is slowly making them understand themselves first. Then only you can hope that one day they will realize that they have an issue and seek professional help by themselves. Unfortunately, most narcissist won’t get through this stage.


Wow out of all these reviews I'm surprised that you were just about the only one to mention this. I only got narc vibes from her as soon as they showed her reaction to Sayu's friend dying. My grandfather acts just like the mom character and treated his own daughter just as poorly. When she was a teen she tried to stand up to him once in public and he called her a little bitch. I was alone with him once and he would treat me the same way. He once slapped me in public when I was a kid for "talking back". No one heard the conversation prior to this and simply believed him that I was being a bad and ungrateful child. Some woman even complimented his actions and justified them since "kids shouldn't disrespect their parents". It's funny how they don't want to be bothered with you and let you know it but then they have the nerve to lecture you about how bad you make them look.
Oct 16, 2022 11:31 AM

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I swear to god... That mother is.... Pure evil
Nov 25, 2022 2:12 AM

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Sayu's mother is a complete piece of shit. It's ridiculous how they all keep apologising to her tf?
Feb 1, 2023 10:10 AM

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You may not understand what Japanese think and how they act, but in fact, many people with lower status really hold their emotions toward people with higher status, no matter how evil they are. They tend not to cause chaos or disrespect the higher status, and this is one of the biggest social problems among the Japanese that leads the nation to a high suicidal rate. Imagine what would happen to Yoshida if he slapped or threw the tea to that sh*t? He probably will be reported to the police and got imprisoned because that sh*t has a higher status, and that pretty much won't solve anything regarding Sayu.

Also, yeah, I agree that the brother is partially garbage too. But in everything that Sayu and Yoshida did, they had really done their best. Not every problem could be done in the way you think is the best. If you open your mind, you'll know in some situations you can't do that "best" solution.
4/5 for this episode.
Mar 15, 2023 12:18 AM

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Yoshida-san is a chad! he even begged for her to raise Sayu, that in the first place he didn't even need to do. because it's her mother duty to raise and protect her child!
Mar 19, 2023 6:13 AM

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Did he really get on his knees and even apologize to that b*tch after the awful things she said? Yoshida definitely lost some respect there.
Apr 8, 2023 5:54 AM

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Mommy needs to be internalized in some mental facility... Oh what am I saying, of course she's probably the head of some conglomerate, psychotic and sociopathic is how they want em! No wonder hubby dropped the bitch lmao, not like he's any better than her...
May 1, 2023 5:48 PM

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Her mother doesn't even seem mentally capable of raising a child. Still, I have nothing but respect for Yoshida for remaining so calm through all of this.
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May 4, 2023 12:14 AM
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Its was still cringe but OK
Dec 7, 2023 6:02 PM

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wow.. family complex.. a mother that blame her own child for the divorce and fails, what an emotional damaged in denial mother who cannot move on, speaking of experience of my own buddy.. lol

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Jan 14, 2024 12:11 AM

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Damn, the mom really projecting her own issues. Can clearly make out that she can't handle the fact that a stranger is willing to go so far for Sayu when her own husband left her for someone else.
Damn it mom, you ain't gonna solve shit like this.
Jun 2, 2024 6:06 PM
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Well, that went about how I expected, the mother is a complete psycho. God I hate her.

I'm honestly surprised that Yoshida didn't get arrested or something like that.

Well, an episode full of a lot of talking, but definitely a decent episode. I'd honestly be happy if they ended it here, but there is one more episode, so I wonder what they're going to do with that.
Oct 19, 2024 1:46 AM
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Reply to kyou_on
Everyone who complains about forced drama must be living a good life I guess.

If you’d lived with a mentally ill person before, you wouldn’t say the same. Their actions are not suppose to make any sense to normal human being. At one moment they could be laughing and then proceed to cry for no reason. I have a relative who always breaks down when we visit her.

Sayu’s mom is obviously a case of narcissism. She thinks the world revolves around her and everyone should be obeying her. Narcissist usually have extreme ego and that’s why she broke down when Yoshida and brother went down on four begging her to take care of Sayu properly. In her mind, she thinks she’s being humiliated and bullied by a stranger telling how to raise kid. She can’t accept it so she told them off.

As you can see, she still doesn’t want to listen to anybody even after calming down. The best she can do is continue living like before Sayu ran away. Sayu realized that her mom won’t be changing at all. That’s why she tells Yoshida that she will be the one who will tolerate and improve their relationship.

This is actually the correct action to take in real life. Either you tolerate them or leave them. Forcing them to change is futile. The best you could do is slowly making them understand themselves first. Then only you can hope that one day they will realize that they have an issue and seek professional help by themselves. Unfortunately, most narcissist won’t get through this stage.
@kyou_on

Completely agree, these people have lived a privileged, sheltered life. Both of my parents, my brother, are like her... even worse in fact. Zero logic. Constant shaming and gaslighting, narcissism, false accusations. Raging. Arguments. Fights. Everything is someone else's fault, and you have to obey them at all times, and they are never wrong. Your criticisms of their poor behaviour or ineptitude is met with defensive and offensive rage and denial. You can even find evidence of the plethora of these people existing all over the internet.


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I think Sayu and her brother are taking the right course, in trying to see if they can mend the relationship. But evidently as shown in the dinner table scene, it's beyond salvageable. Highly disagree with Yoshida's naive optimistic plan there. It's clear as day that she is unfit and unwilling and incapable of being a proper mother; I like how Issa mentioned "it's only words, for now, so we'll have to see." But IRL those same circumstances would equal to a conclusive No Contact and GTFO for life... she is not going to change or treat Sayu well. Some people you just have to walk away from because they're too toxic, and will only bury and ruin your life as you try to stay in their lives.

Issa isn't perfect in his approach, but he does have a hard task of being young and naive, inexperienced, juggling a lot of work and financial responsibility, and trying to maintain his relationship and duty to his family. I would personally think their mom crossed the line years ago, however, irredeemably so... But I guess maybe he also didn't know his mom's true feelings toward Sayu. IMO after their mom said she should've never gave birth to Sayu, I'd cut contact with her as Sayu's brother.


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Pretty sobering reflection of reality, though a bit forced, for sure. Strange mix of realistic reflection, and awkward melodrama and narrative direction... but it's an important story to be told.


The mysterious unlabelled relationship between Yoshida and Sayu is very uncomfortable for me. I think this is the first time in media I think two people are just perfect for each other and they should end up together, because of how understanding, affectionate, loyal and mature they are regarding relationship dynamics and how much they treasure and care for the other, but there's this awkward line they don't want to cross due to her age. The way they are around each other would ordinarily make sense to cross it in most other contexts, if both were adults. Very uncomfortable relationship they have, and that's portrayed well here. Probably the most or one of the most healthy and mature loving relationships I've seen in many forms of media. People who truly care for one another and have the others' best interests at heart, always.


Obviously that will likely change when she reaches the age of majority, but then you'd also have people and weirdos saying he groomed her and waited until she hit 18, etc etc... when their relationship and history is so much more complex and nuanced than that.
TheOtherJNOct 19, 2024 1:51 AM
Nov 21, 2024 11:52 AM

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That was a bloodbath, or so I thought.
Yes, we need to calm and assess the situation beforehand.
Or else, hate will overcome our sanity, and the problems would just get worse.
Nice of this series to actually portray such a thing in a meaningful way.
But, Yoshida's monologues could've been said out loud, because it gives more punch than what he said.

P.S. Sayu and Yoshida, holding hands... like a couple... or so the norm goes. 🤔

P.S. looks like people are watching this series with bad subtitles... that's probably why they don't comprehend it, probably...
Here is the real reason why Sayu and Yoshida cried.

Her mother said one of the taboos in life.
ASinfulPersonageNov 21, 2024 12:04 PM
It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines
and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it,
is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service.
Dec 14, 2024 3:40 PM

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Maybe I've got bad taste in writing and I don't know how reality works, but to me the writing isn't garbage nor was the dialogue in this episode unrealistic.

The older brother I don't think is a garbage guy either. We don't know his context. Sure, could he have done more, of course. But there are clearly limits to where he is comfortable to act and when he is not, he is still in charge of a business and it probably affects family life. Plus, he did a good deed by helping support MC's case by getting down on the ground and bowing.

Sayu's mother I don't think is an unrealistic character. Of course, she is still a fictional character after all, but I am pretty sure there are people like this in the world and there are all sorts of reasons that lead them to behave/say things that many may consider bad. It is also clear that Sayu's mother is not in the right mental state/mental health. Admittedly, she had 13-15 years to improve it and it's difficult to view her anything close to a saint, but her actions and reasoning are nevertheless realistic. Especially considering the culture of being in the upper class, living in a capitalistic corporate society, having interacted with supposedly terrible people in the past, and so on.

As soon as Sayu got slapped and her mother's face quickly transformed from hostile anger to forced calmness/robotic expression, it was obvious that this character was made for viewers to dislike. So, I could see how other commentators saying that this episode had a lot of forced drama are indeed onto something, but was this forced drama well done or truly poor? I'm not sure. It was clearly dramatic, but I think the anime handled the drama well and kept it from being boring.

So yeah: I don't think the writing is terrible. At least, not as terrible as one of the characters in this episode.
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I just love the mugs and glass on the table. Glass for Yoshida.
May 28, 10:14 AM

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Haha, I criticized this anime for bullshit suicide drama that came out of nowhere to create drama, but the writer went overboard with the mother here as well.

The only thing this anime had going for it was the name of the anime, that sounds scandelous. In reality, whole shit is beyond tame and dull. Attempt to create drama that just won't work. Meh.


Also, just to be clear. No one is saying that people like the mother or the beta brother doesn't exist in real life. What IS being said, is how awfully they are introduced and how the whole setup feels beyond forced for an anime that can't even do anything exciting after the first episode where characters were introduced. They even got that creep in the shop to almost rape the girl, but then suddenly everything was OK even when he admitted to trying to force her to her "bestie".

Writer clearly isn't capable of creating tension or excitement. Probably the only thing that excited him was the title of his own anime/manga/whatever.
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Refusing to take accountability for such mean spirited words is everything needed to hate this excuse of a """""""""""parent"""""""""". Yeah, why not doubling down with "i should have never given birth to you". Plus, what is up with slamming the hand on the table exactly like Sayu did before? Are you a mentally capable adult or a 7 years old spoiled kid?

Wow, i didn't remember any longer Yoshida wanted to throw that glass at her, and to be honest... part of me, along with his internal speech, really wanted it to happen.

It is debatable how to react to Yoshida's request and Sayu's brother joining in, but... damn, the way he reacted outside of Ogiwara's place.

"We made a deal. Obviously those are just words, it's up in the air if she will actually follow them" yeah, sadly realistic. Sayu's brother hopefully will never make dumb decisions any longer and will try his best to start all over until her graduation. Even if it clearly will be painful.

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