So I'm a Spider, So What? (light novel)
Danama said: Sorry to hear your not enjoying the anime and talking with the community doesn't seem to be helping either. Are you anime only, or read the manga? Well my only advice is to enjoy the show for what it is or drop it if it's unsatisfactory. If your looking for more details, world building, chactorization, politics ect, then I highly suggest the LN. It's truly a great read :) I've read the manga, but it doesn't really matter as it is "not real/not canon" supposedly. I sufficiently frustrated with this to never read the novel, exactly the opposite anime tries to achieve as it is meant to be an advertisement for the novel instead. |
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beast_regards said: The puzzle is there; however, it's not our job to put it together yet. If one were only given a fraction of the pieces, you wouldn't expect them to solve it, right? Well, that's the predicament we're in. I'll admit, there is info missing from this adaptation; but not enough to prevent the story from moving forward as it has thus far. Your right not to have your hopes up that they'll reveal missing info at a later time, but that doesn't mean they expect viewers to know or need to know what's missing either. If I told you the missing info was on the human's timeline, would you have preferred more of it than our time spent with Kumoko? Well, maybe you would if it made the girls around Shun look less like a harem; however, that's how you chose to walk into it. Not all stories where one cast member is a different gender is an outright harem. The series isn't even tagged as such, as the only character with particular feelings toward Shun is his sister, Sue. If your looking for a harem, please look elsewhere. You'll only find hints of it here. If I had to guess, the LN probably has far more hints....this anime... is built on a completely broken logic expecting me to... be a psychic [and/or] precognitive. beast_regards said: As far as lies are concerned, that's how plot twist work. However, you're not suppose to know beforehand; else, you'd hardly consider it a plot twist. The issue here is simply the negative connotation the word "lie" has for most. I'd rather it be reworded as being fed "false information" or "half truths". Only the author is "expected" to know the whole truth. The audience is free to draw their own conclusions in hopes of being right when the answer is revealed. The only thing we are "expected" to do is enjoy the series and support its creator(s). That's the entertainment industry in a nutshell, minus the world view displayed within the work intend to change the world view of other.I am practically expected to know this show is going to betray its own premise, turn into a completely different show than it was first. I am expected to know the show is straight away lying to me, yet [at] the same time I am supposed to memorize every word from every dialogue and remember this despite it is only 20 minutes released every week with nothing in between. It expects me to follow the boring and interesting characters because I am somehow supposed to see the future twist that didn't happen yet. And what is worse, I can't even talk about it -- trying to figure [it out] as the time goes on. [When] I try to [at least make sense of it in an] entertaining way by making it something I can discuss, I am attacked by its... novel fanbase for not understanding the information... the way they want me to. As for memorizing, no series 'expects' you to do that. That's what flashbacks are for. However, if you wish to make a discussion, be prepared to make time to re-watch/re-read content related to the topic before jumping into it. There's no room for discussion if you're able to find the answer(s) on your own. Though it is easier to ask, not everyone will happily give out the info you request. As you've seen, many will misinterpret it as maliciously trying to find fault with the series. If you don't have faith in your ability to retain info for several weeks, I'd recommend wait for the series to end and binge watch it as others do. There is no need to restrict yourself to weekly releases. Watching a series when it airs is just advertising for when it sells in stores. Spreading out the episodes for several weeks is a means of extending how long it airs. I'd hate to imagine how many viewers would miss a series because it only aired for a few days. I can be a bit impatient myself, but even reading the source material takes several hours I'd rather spend "only 20 minutes" watching. beast_regards said: This is the one of the least generic isekai out there. As for what is different about it, Kumoko speaks for herself. As for what's generic, Shun's timeline is intended to be generic. If even his story was unique, there'd be complaints about the series trying to be too much/different. I don't know what you mean by "change in the future"; however, we're given something we are both familiar and unfamiliar with every new isekai that's released. As far as this thread goes, it was too soon for it. It's practically the same as saying "I can't finish this puzzle" before you are given all the pieces. Anime doesn't expect you to be psychic and have imaginary pieces in your head. Wait for all the pieces to get to you before producing a product without all it's components.I still can't [fathom] why the author wrote a generic isekai, and expected people who don't like generic isekai to watch it hoping it will change in the future, instead of just not going for generic isekai in the first place. But I am certain now this thread was a bad idea. Sadly, I am not psychic as anime expects me to be, so I wasn't able to see it before. Anime has restrictions; same goes for novels, manga, and other commonly used mediums. Netflix has the luxury of dumping a whole season of content on its users, but TV networks aren't like that. They have timeslots and if a whole series can't fit in it, they have to wait for another opening to continue after building funds from the previous release. If anything, be satisfied the series even reached you. After that, it's up to you to read the LN or not after watching a shortened version of the series. The only 'expectation' after watching the adaptation is to give the LN a shot. There will no doubt be more content to be read and more topics to be discussed. In a sense, adaptations were intended to be limited; at least when it comes to LNs. In the end, this is one of those adaptations that doesn't do the LN justice, but still has readers who'd enjoy watching. |
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dejablu said: linkhuesitos said: The thread only reach this far because people keep trying to force novel content on someone that clearly stated that was an anime viewer. Nobody is forcing LN content on anyone, most of the people contributing to the debate were limiting themselves to point out things from the *anime* that anime onlies like the reactors Danama mentioned were able to grasp without "psychic powers" or "photographic memory" (cit.). It's obvious OP will never like this anime nor the novel since they seem to dislike the very mystery genre and the idea of solving a puzzle. The thread has grown so far for a simple reason: because OP kept engaging in all sorts of dishonest forms of argumentation, including ignoring overwhelming *anime* evidence and misrepresenting that as novel content, feigning ignorance of manga content in order to score debate points and *systematically misrepresenting* other people's statements (they did even in their very last post, about an argument they had already misrepresented once and were explicitly called upon it). OP is playing the victim card pretending this is some sort of toxic fanbase, but I and several other people have been simply reacting to OP's dishonest style of argumentation after trying to engage in good faith. There is ample evidence of it in the thread, and several people have noticed it: mnedel said: What amazes me is that people are still arguing with beast_regards. He/She is obviously misrepresenting or outright ignoring arguments of others and debating in bad faith. The conversation is going in circles. This anime is not beast_regards cup of tea and no number of logical arguments will budge him/her from this stance. It’s like trying to explain astronomy to a flat Earth fanatic, that is to say, pointless. Either that or he/she is a troll. Its time to just ignore the thread. Talmer said: Biggest problem people have with Beast_regards is that in argument he ignores most of the evidence that people point him to (and i am talking about anime only evidence) just to push his narrative biased by him being a manga reader and thinking that manga is a superior medium. Abredon said: You keep misrepresenting my statements. HEBS721 said: None of this has anything to do with the novels. The scene as presented in the anime does not imply anything that would suggest what you have randomly assumed. You have been corrected repeatedly using anime-only knowledge and you ignore it every time. billybub said: Unsubstantiated assumptions are pretty much his MO, he believes what he wants facts be dammed xorion said: It really seems as though you don't want to change your mind, and you tend to ignore things people bring up that conflict with or outright refute your statements. You seem very close-minded and your bias from reading the manga is very clear. Duarpeto said: Damn, this guy was a manga reader all along? That makes so much more sense, it would be impossible for someone to miss everything the show hints at in terms of the bigger plot and make no logical connections whatsoever between the spider and human/demon side unless they were intentionally ignoring them for the sake of trying to see it "from an anime only perspective". I'm glad this has been solved because that level of lacking both perception and intelligence would be worrying if it was real HeadfirstRocket said: Can't we just agree to leave this thread alone and not come back to it. People coming into the thread without knowing this "history" are still trying again to engage OP in good faith but they should really try to inform themselves before falling for OP's systematic misrepresentations of people's statements (even the review is full of it, and it has nothing to do with the anime itself, which they are welcome to hate as much as they want). Yup just let this die, done interacting with this knucklehead |
| I was bing reading the novels a while ago and only realised what was going on with timelines in volume 4. There has been shows that did it well, there has been show that did it poorly. Kumo anime is about average in executing time perspectives. I would very much prefer if they stuck to manga way of doing things. |
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