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Jun 18, 2015 1:47 PM

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@poetic true probably
mayukachan said:
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No, I'm a straight man.

Real men watch yaoi for their girlfriend.
nah they make their gfs watch yuri hentai ;)
Jun 18, 2015 1:50 PM

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isn't "free" basically shounen ai?

i bet at least half the people who claim to be hetero and would never watch shounen ai or yaoi on this topic have actually watched "free"
Jun 18, 2015 1:54 PM

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orchidork said:
isn't "free" basically shounen ai?

i bet at least half the people who claim to be hetero and would never watch shounen ai or yaoi on this topic have actually watched "free"
No

There's just a lot of BL fanservice because the director is a fujoshi
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 18, 2015 1:57 PM

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Unfortunately, Free! isn't shounen-ai at all. There is no actual (romantic) relationship between the guys. It is just friendship or the infamous 'bromance'.
Jun 18, 2015 1:58 PM

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orchidork said:
isn't "free" basically shounen ai?

i bet at least half the people who claim to be hetero and would never watch shounen ai or yaoi on this topic have actually watched "free"
I'm part of the other half... don't plan on watching it, if I don't watch some shows due to the ecchi I'm so not going to watch that
Jun 18, 2015 1:58 PM

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Comic_Sans said:
No

There's just a lot of BL fanservice because the director is a fujoshi


whoa. and here i thought free was directed by a male

Helenus said:
Unfortunately, Free! isn't shounen-ai at all. There is no actual (romantic) relationship between the guys. It is just friendship or the infamous 'bromance'.


but can't "bromance" be technically categorized as shounen ai?
Jun 18, 2015 2:05 PM

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orchidork said:

but can't "bromance" be technically categorized as shounen ai?

then, hunter x hunter, naruto, hajime no ippo and one piece are also shounen ai
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orchidork said:
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No

There's just a lot of BL fanservice because the director is a fujoshi


whoa. and here i thought free was directed by a male

Helenus said:
Unfortunately, Free! isn't shounen-ai at all. There is no actual (romantic) relationship between the guys. It is just friendship or the infamous 'bromance'.


but can't "bromance" be technically categorized as shounen ai?


Shounen-ai is 'Boy's Love'. It focuses more on the romantic feelings and not (so much) on the sex.

I don't think 'bromance' (the Western term) includes romantic-sexual feelings. It's more an intense friendship.
Jun 18, 2015 2:05 PM

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Unless you're a fan of swimming or the popularity of Free! made you watch it to be hip, or there's something about Free! that's not mostly about male eye candy fanservice, I don't see why any man who isn't suspect would watch Free!.
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Jun 18, 2015 2:07 PM

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mayukachan said:

Real men watch yaoi for their girlfriend.

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nah they make their gfs watch yuri hentai ;)


i missed u guyz !! <3

@OP: it takes a real man to take one through the ins i guess.

MAL logic is nice u_u
Jun 18, 2015 2:08 PM

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I don't mind watching yuri with my bf, if it wasn't just smut. And I wouldn't force my own boyfriend to watch smut BL either.
Jun 18, 2015 2:11 PM

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@may
Lol yeah I was just joking I wouldn't do that either.
not sure about watching yaoi with my GF though.... I'd have to like her a lot lol
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mayukachan said:

Real men watch yaoi for their girlfriend.


Killaclown said:
nah they make their gfs watch yuri hentai ;)


i missed u guyz !! &lt;3
lol I know right :p
Jun 18, 2015 2:12 PM

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Epicenter said:
Unless you're a fan of swimming or the popularity of Free! made you watch it to be hip, or there's something about Free! that's not mostly about male eye candy fanservice, I don't see why any man who isn't suspect would watch Free!.

the story was amazing as well as the character development. Good realism and themes later on.
Jun 18, 2015 2:15 PM

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mayukachan said:
Epicenter said:
Unless you're a fan of swimming or the popularity of Free! made you watch it to be hip, or there's something about Free! that's not mostly about male eye candy fanservice, I don't see why any man who isn't suspect would watch Free!.

[b]the story was amazing as well as the character development. Good realism and themes later on.
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honey, i just cant help but feel your not being honest to yourself.
i mean free! is well known for the eye candy , so r u sure about what u said ?
Jun 18, 2015 2:18 PM

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ZA_WAYD said:
mayukachan said:

[b]the story was amazing as well as the character development. Good realism and themes later on.
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honey, i just cant help but feel your not being honest to yourself.
i mean free! is well known for the eye candy , so r u sure about what u said ?
But she's right, the character development and the themes were actually really good

You should watch it WAD
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 18, 2015 2:18 PM

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ZA_WAYD said:
mayukachan said:

[b]the story was amazing as well as the character development. Good realism and themes later on.
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honey, i just cant help but feel your not being honest to yourself.
i mean free! is well known for the eye candy , so r u sure about what u said ?

im sure. I didn't watch it for that reason at all, although it was a bonus. Originally I watched it to bash on it but then I actually started to like it. I was very impressed with how the characters grew.
Jun 18, 2015 2:21 PM

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Comic_Sans said:
ZA_WAYD said:
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honey, i just cant help but feel your not being honest to yourself.
i mean free! is well known for the eye candy , so r u sure about what u said ?
But she's right, the character development and the themes were actually really good

You should watch it WAD
and all of you need to watch prison school when it comes out.... easily will be in my favs unless they totally screw it up.
I haven't gotten a female opinion on it :(
Jun 18, 2015 2:22 PM

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Killaclown said:
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But she's right, the character development and the themes were actually really good

You should watch it WAD
and all of you need to watch prison school when it comes out.... easily will be in my favs unless they totally screw it up.
I haven't gotten a female opinion on it :(
I plan on watching it, the art looks great.
Jun 18, 2015 2:26 PM

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Awesome :)
Totally curious about what women are going to say about it, it's perv but oh so funny and the characters are pretty great
Jun 18, 2015 2:27 PM

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Killaclown said:
Awesome :)
Totally curious about what women are going to say about it, it's perv but oh so funny and the characters are pretty great


DEAL THEN !! ^^
u watch free and they'l watch prison school.
Jun 18, 2015 2:34 PM

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ZA_WAYD said:
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Awesome :)
Totally curious about what women are going to say about it, it's perv but oh so funny and the characters are pretty great


DEAL THEN !! ^^
u watch free and they'l watch prison school.
lol mayukachan was already planning on it though (damn you WAD)
Jun 18, 2015 2:38 PM
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i watch shonen ai but not yaoi
Jun 18, 2015 2:45 PM

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Shounen-ai ?
Yaoi?

Nope. Never.
Jun 18, 2015 2:50 PM

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madface said:
Shounen-ai ?
Yaoi?

Nope. Never.
But Tokyo Phoul has Tsugayama
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 18, 2015 2:53 PM

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Comic_Sans said:
madface said:
Shounen-ai ?
Yaoi?

Nope. Never.
But Tokyo Phoul has Tsugayama
having a gay character is different than a show revolving around a gay romance and I'm guess kissing and stuff
Jun 18, 2015 2:54 PM

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Killaclown said:
Comic_Sans said:
But she's right, the character development and the themes were actually really good

You should watch it WAD
and all of you need to watch prison school when it comes out.... easily will be in my favs unless they totally screw it up.
I haven't gotten a female opinion on it :(
Eh, doesn't exactly look like my type of show since I'm not really into ecchi but I'll watch it anyway

The seiyuu cast is easily an 8-9/10

And I wanna hear Kamiyan say this line
Killaclown said:
Comic_Sans said:
But Tokyo Phoul has Tsugayama
having a gay character is different than a show revolving around a gay romance and I'm guess kissing and stuff
Tsukiyama made TG 101 % more gay just by being there
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jun 18, 2015 2:55 PM

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Killaclown said:
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But Tokyo Phoul has Tsugayama
having a gay character is different than a show revolving around a gay romance and I'm guess kissing and stuff


^This.

Also, I don't really like Tsukiyama xD
Jun 18, 2015 3:02 PM

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@comic i'll take your word on the voice actors since I wouldn't know, but that's good too hear because there are soooo many awesome lines like that that I want to hear.

Tsugayama was cool because he was creepy as fuck
Jun 18, 2015 3:18 PM

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Well, the whole yaoi/shonen-ai thing is quite complicated.

I myself prefer to watch/read shonen-ai/yaoi because the average mainstream anime (One Piece, SAO, FateStayHetero etc...) don't appeal to me. Don't get me wrong. They might be great shows of their own right. But they aren't interesting for me.

Most yaoi/shonen-ai have a good mixture of comedy, romance and drama. So I get the full package of genres with a shonen-ai ( and butt sex). It's just sugoi!
Jun 18, 2015 3:25 PM
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|| Holy... Did someone say he/she enjoyed "bara"? Years and years ago, out of curiosity I googled the term and.. that search alone is mortifying enough for me. (stupid google how could you have not alerted me that SafeSearch at that time has't been turned on because of a recent crash so you reset everything?)


I'm a male and I can understand that Bara can be horrifying, actually it's quite possibly the extreme end of Yaoi. Bara tends to have allll kinds of smut involved, mpreg...*coughcumcough* inflation, multi-penetration and all sorts. I do like Bara; only when it's tame and has a hint of romance with no rape-y vibes.
Jun 18, 2015 3:34 PM

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I agree. Most Bara manga are sick. Especially those with old men, too much muscles and there are even manag where the guys are animals. It's disturbing.

I often recommended this magaka and will do it again now: SAKIRA is the mistress of 'borderline-yaoi'. Her characters are more muscular and 'manly' than your average yaoi character but not ugly or Schwarzenegger-like.

Jun 18, 2015 3:38 PM

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Helenus said:
Shounen-ai is 'Boy's Love'. It focuses more on the romantic feelings and not (so much) on the sex.

I don't think 'bromance' (the Western term) includes romantic-sexual feelings. It's more an intense friendship.


i understand now. thanks for explaining
Jun 18, 2015 3:46 PM

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I'm a big fan of bromances myself, but in anime they can leave you wondering if there is more to it (for the fujoshi's of course) which makes me not like it as much.
there isn't anything gay about having a best friend.... and we lonely Otaku wish we had friends like that :p
Jun 18, 2015 3:47 PM

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The most "yaoi" thing I can take is Oregairu
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Jun 18, 2015 3:59 PM

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Killaclown said:
I'm a big fan of bromances myself, but in anime they can leave you wondering if there is more to it (for the fujoshi's of course) which makes me not like it as much.
there isn't anything gay about having a best friend.... and we lonely Otaku wish we had friends like that :p


Well, in the West all the 'american fujoshi' (I don't think they are fujoshi per definitionem) ship the guys from Supernatural. And they're brother, aren't they? So this phenomenon isn't exclusively an anime thing.

And haven't seen Supernatural at all. But I think in this show there are even less hints for 'love' between the protagonists. In anime the relationships between two men are usually more suspicious, I guess.
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That is true.... maybe nerd Fandom in general?

And yes they are brothers and in the show there was a book written about them accidentally (don't feel like explaining) and it's a running joke of how the female fans ship them and they have stated "but we're brothers"
edit 4got to say the "books" that were written is just in the show, not actual books, my bad
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Jun 18, 2015 4:47 PM

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If you know of any, and they happen to be heterosexual males, please direct them my way.

I'm a social scientist that's currently conducting very important research on the male brain and behaviour. Any test subjects willing participants that you find, please ask them to speak with me and I'll reward them greatly for their contribution to science and psychology.

Edit: Oh who am I kidding, I just have delusional school-girl fantasies of viewing a live bishounen in the flesh... :(
Jun 18, 2015 4:51 PM

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If you know of any, and they happen to be heterosexual males, please direct them my way.

I'm a social scientist that's currently conducting very important research on the male brain and behaviour. Any test subjects willing participants that you find, please ask them to speak with me and I'll reward them greatly for their contribution to science and psychology.

Edit: Oh who am I kidding, I just have delusional school-girl fantasies of viewing a live bishounen in the flesh... :(


Buy me some yaoi manga and I'm all yours :D

Edit: Bahaha, read your 'edit' too late. I would have done it ;D
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Not to mention immoral? Wat? A man can love a toaster for all I care as long as he doesn't preach it.


man reading these comments makes me giggle xD


Is giggle right hehe. This thread is just that interesting.
Jun 18, 2015 9:44 PM

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ayanami000 said:
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man reading these comments makes me giggle xD


Is giggle right hehe. This thread is just that interesting.


It's always fun watching MAL discuss anything yaoi related, as the large majority of users don't like it. I'll defend it, but that doesn't stop half of it from being way too rapey.
Jun 19, 2015 1:46 AM

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I'm straight up heterosexual and thoroughly enjoyed Sekaiichi Hatsukoi as well as Junjou Romantica. Planning to watch Love Stage in the near future. I'm not going to tie down my romance choices based on my sexuality. Not going to lie though, the rapey vibes get exciting at times when you know both characters actually want it.


Wait, how do rapey vibes work when both guys want it?
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Jun 19, 2015 3:01 AM

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the answer is yes to in general but there are some shounen-ai series i&#039;m sure straight guys could handle just fine..like i watched Kyou Kara Maou and found it enjoyable but the shounen-ai elements where more so used just for comedic purposes instead of real flown blown relationships and such so that was for sure part of the reason i for one found that series as enjoyable as i did


I dont think Kyou Kara Maou is a shounen ai.... I have only watchd the 1st season tho...
I dunno if or how Demonking and Wolfram's engagement develops later

gay porn .never .. ever...
wahts the diff in shounen ai and yaoi? sex scenes?
Jun 19, 2015 5:07 AM

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mayukachan said:
orchidork said:

but can't &quot;bromance&quot; be technically categorized as shounen ai?

.......hajime no ippo........are also shounen ai


Oh, like yeah, and Ippo was so so..... with Miyata..... LOL
#CHEXIT
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TheBrainintheJar said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
I'm straight up heterosexual and thoroughly enjoyed Sekaiichi Hatsukoi as well as Junjou Romantica. Planning to watch Love Stage in the near future. I'm not going to tie down my romance choices based on my sexuality. Not going to lie though, the rapey vibes get exciting at times when you know both characters actually want it.



Wait, how do rapey vibes work when both guys want it?


basically Junjou Romantica and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. watch it and you get what we mean hahahaXD they're kinda forced into it, but they want it as well.(they say and think it) it's not rape.somewhere they literaly say, I could've stopped him if I really wanted to, but I didn't.

I don't think there's anything wrong with (straight) males liking shounen-ai/yaoi. I think it's kinda awesome.
and I like yaoi, but only in manga and not hardcore, I mean it puts me off as well. and that, solely because I don't like graphic things. same with hentai, I just can't watch itXD
I'm a (straight/ heck what do I know? I don't like to catagorize myself) girl and for experiment I checked out Akuma no Riddle, because the story looked kinda interesting. I enjoyed it and thought the relationships were cute. it actually made me more open minded.

the irritating thing is that society likes to put everyone in categories. why should we care about who/what someone else likes? haha but that's a whole different discussion.
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parvanubis said:
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Wait, how do rapey vibes work when both guys want it?


basically Junjou Romantica and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi. watch it and you get what we mean hahahaXD they're kinda forced into it, but they want it as well.(they say and think it) it's not rape.somewhere they literaly say, I could've stopped him if I really wanted to, but I didn't.

I don't think there's anything wrong with (straight) males liking shounen-ai/yaoi. I think it's kinda awesome.
and I like yaoi, but only in manga and not hardcore, I mean it puts me off as well. and that, solely because I don't like graphic things. same with hentai, I just can't watch itXD
I'm a (straight/ heck what do I know? I don't like to catagorize myself) girl and for experiment I checked out Akuma no Riddle, because the story looked kinda interesting. I enjoyed it and thought the relationships were cute. it actually made me more open minded.

the irritating thing is that society likes to put everyone in categories. why should we care about who/what someone else likes? haha but that's a whole different discussion.


Bi/Gay/Straight/Asex are useful categories. They let you know if there's sexual potential with this person or another. I'm not a fan of all the new genders people come up with, but sexual orientation is useful.

It makes perfect sense for a straight women to enjoy (visually) gay sex. It's the people you're attracted to getting it on. I'm a straight male and I enjoy yuri.
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I don't think there are straight men who would watch yaoi unless they lost a bet or something and is forced to watch two men going at it.
Jun 19, 2015 7:49 AM

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I don't think there are straight men who would watch yaoi unless they lost a bet or something and is forced to watch two men going at it.
I've watched some yaoi shows, and as a straight men I don't see a problem in it. It is different form your standard romance story and it can be really good.
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Tenshi_Shura said:
I don't think there are straight men who would watch yaoi unless they lost a bet or something and is forced to watch two men going at it.
I've watched some yaoi shows, and as a straight men I don't see a problem in it. It is different form your standard romance story and it can be really good.


Okay let me rephrase what I said. I don't think 99% of straight men are as open minded as you.
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Tenshi_Shura said:
Milk_is_Special said:
I've watched some yaoi shows, and as a straight men I don't see a problem in it. It is different form your standard romance story and it can be really good.


Okay let me rephrase what I said. I don't think 99% of straight men are as open minded as you.
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