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Modernoir said: @Marinate1016 After insulting you relentlessly with the first 2 episode discussions it makes me very happy to see you concede in the end that Marina and Shizuka are both victims. The real villains in this story are the parents that failed them. I always knew that I just felt that Shizuka suffered more than Marina and she never took it out by hurting anyone like Marina did which is true until Takopi went back in the past. At least Marina had a mom that was present SOMETIMES(when she wasn’t having an episode) Shizuka had literally nothing but a dog |
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BEaSTPadwal15 said: best Summer Pockets girl by far. altho they've all been great lol True But Ao arc was so so good it burned me and now neglecting Shiroha arc. |
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Well he did murder someone so not quite, but maybe
@BEaSTPadwal15 Takopi Character arc |
Reply to Rexnihilo
You know what I think get now why Aliens don't visit us.
Earth is in a quarantine zone so humans and everything evil doesn't spread. That's why we don't see any aliens either.
Earth is in a quarantine zone so humans and everything evil doesn't spread. That's why we don't see any aliens either.
@Rexnihilo that's why we have not seen any aliens  |
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IzanaSolos said: This episode shows everything I really hate about this series. It uses cheap emotional tricks, shock value, and over the top trauma to pretend it’s deep and meaningful. The animation and direction are great, and you can see how a normally calm, subtle director had to go more obvious here. It still works in some scenes, using contrast well like he’s done before with directors like Toshimasa Ishii. But since this is Takopii, it also has to include disturbing, uncomfortable parts. If Mori had directed the whole thing, maybe he would’ve toned that down, but with what he was given, I think he did the best he could without making it too gross. As for the twist with time travel, alternate timelines, and Takopi forgetting his original mission (“original sin,” nice title drop I guess), t’s all just dumb. Marina’s mom is mad over something ridiculous. Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. Takopi’s home world and logic make no sense. And Takopi himself is still super annoying and totally out of place in tone. It’s all just so stupid. Like the abused kids absorbing the trauma around them, Takopi’s return to the “happy” world just feels even darker.... ... all because now he’s carrying all that pain and still no one’s talking honestly about anything. (ik yr nt readin al dat) So what’s better for you, bro—a show with a good amount of harem and ecchi scenes? Even though this series has pretty high ratings, it still isn't popular enough. I don't know what kind of anime you like, but looking through your profile, I can definitely say you're some edgy punk. You think the show is trying to relate to something stupid, but that's not the case. You might not have had bad parents or suffered from bullying—that’s why things seem unrealistic to you. I can easily relate to everything in this anime, not just from my life, but from the lives of others around me too. Now about "his mom getting angry at something that stupid"—yeah, the fact that she got angry because her daughter didn’t succeed in dating that guy feels off, but that’s not the case. Her life was junk; she looked down on herself and her future. She didn’t care about her daughter’s life or anything—her daughter was just a weight she had to carry to live in society. But when her daughter told her about dating that clinic guy, her mom saw a light in her life—like she’d have money and her daughter would finally be useful to her. And when Marina told her she was no longer dating that guy, all those dreams vanished. You could already see how much she had prepared for the meeting—making so much food, cleaning the house, and so on. If there's anything you're still angry about in the series, then say it. (english is not my first language, sorry if I made mistakes) |
| the twists keep twisting!!!! anime of the year easy |
| wow another great episode sometimes i forget to breath... they are all bad and good at the same time... |
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IzanaSolos said:
This episode shows everything I really hate about this series. It uses cheap emotional tricks, shock value, and over the top trauma to pretend it’s deep and meaningful. The animation and direction are great, and you can see how a normally calm, subtle director had to go more obvious here. It still works in some scenes, using contrast well like he’s done before with directors like Toshimasa Ishii. But since this is Takopii, it also has to include disturbing, uncomfortable parts. If Mori had directed the whole thing, maybe he would’ve toned that down, but with what he was given, I think he did the best he could without making it too gross.
As for the twist with time travel, alternate timelines, and Takopi forgetting his original mission (“original sin,” nice title drop I guess), t’s all just dumb. Marina’s mom is mad over something ridiculous. Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. Takopi’s home world and logic make no sense. And Takopi himself is still super annoying and totally out of place in tone. It’s all just so stupid. Like the abused kids absorbing the trauma around them, Takopi’s return to the “happy” world just feels even darker....
... all because now he’s carrying all that pain and still no one’s talking honestly about anything.
This episode shows everything I really hate about this series. It uses cheap emotional tricks, shock value, and over the top trauma to pretend it’s deep and meaningful. The animation and direction are great, and you can see how a normally calm, subtle director had to go more obvious here. It still works in some scenes, using contrast well like he’s done before with directors like Toshimasa Ishii. But since this is Takopii, it also has to include disturbing, uncomfortable parts. If Mori had directed the whole thing, maybe he would’ve toned that down, but with what he was given, I think he did the best he could without making it too gross.
As for the twist with time travel, alternate timelines, and Takopi forgetting his original mission (“original sin,” nice title drop I guess), t’s all just dumb. Marina’s mom is mad over something ridiculous. Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. Takopi’s home world and logic make no sense. And Takopi himself is still super annoying and totally out of place in tone. It’s all just so stupid. Like the abused kids absorbing the trauma around them, Takopi’s return to the “happy” world just feels even darker....
... all because now he’s carrying all that pain and still no one’s talking honestly about anything.
(ik yr nt readin al dat)
So what’s better for you, bro—a show with a good amount of harem and ecchi scenes? Even though this series has pretty high ratings, it still isn't popular enough. I don't know what kind of anime you like, but looking through your profile, I can definitely say you're some edgy punk. You think the show is trying to relate to something stupid, but that's not the case. You might not have had bad parents or suffered from bullying—that’s why things seem unrealistic to you. I can easily relate to everything in this anime, not just from my life, but from the lives of others around me too.
Now about "his mom getting angry at something that stupid"—yeah, the fact that she got angry because her daughter didn’t succeed in dating that guy feels off, but that’s not the case. Her life was junk; she looked down on herself and her future. She didn’t care about her daughter’s life or anything—her daughter was just a weight she had to carry to live in society. But when her daughter told her about dating that clinic guy, her mom saw a light in her life—like she’d have money and her daughter would finally be useful to her. And when Marina told her she was no longer dating that guy, all those dreams vanished. You could already see how much she had prepared for the meeting—making so much food, cleaning the house, and so on.
If there's anything you're still angry about in the series, then say it.
(english is not my first language, sorry if I made mistakes)
| @rishabhvish__ You bringing up my profile doesn’t really matter. I’m not talking about what I like outside this show, I’m talking about this show and why I think it’s badly written. I don’t hate Takopii just because it’s dark. I hate it because it pretends to be deep by throwing in sad and shocking stuff without really saying anything. It uses trauma and emotional moments to force a reaction instead of actually building something meaningful. Yeah, I get why Marina’s mom was upset. But the way the show handled it still felt over the top and silly. That’s kind of the whole problem, everything is exaggerated to make you feel something, but it doesn’t feel real or earned. The time travel stuff, Takopii forgetting his mission, and the whole "original sin" thing just made the story messier. Takopii himself feels like he doesn’t belong in the story at all, his tone doesn’t match and he’s just annoying. So no, it’s not that I “don’t get it.” I just think it’s trying way too hard to be emotional without actually doing the work to back it up. |
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Reply to Modernoir
@IzanaSolos Holy fucking yapfest shut the fuck up. People like you are the most braindead kind of people alive. "EVERYTHING I CANT STOMACH IS CHEAP AND SHOCK VALUE!" Insane how your absolute garbage post is the first thing everyone sees when they open the discussion for this masterpiece of an episode.
| @Modernoir he doesn't get it Marin - san was really not so bad at the beginning... |
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Every new episode proves more and more that Marina was actually the good guy and Shizu the psyco killer, i love this anime
For the Marina haters it is still not too late to accept y'all were in the wrong
For the Marina haters it is still not too late to accept y'all were in the wrong
| @RaidenSteiner highkey was only valid to hate Marina until the end of the second episode |
| Crazy how mixed the reactions to this episode are. |
| Another awesome twist, I love how they portrayed Planet Happy in this episode. This continues to be the best anime of the current season by far One more episode! T.T |
| Great episode, incredible plot twists, BUT the melodrama is getting tiring at this point. Oh and welcome back Higurashi no Naku Koro ni ahh plot. I thought they ditched the time loop mechanic but GUESS WHO'S BACK... eh. Back to 8/10. |
 MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
| ready for the worst ending in all animanga next week, hope people will finally wake up and realize what kind of garbage they've been consuming |
nwssxJul 25, 3:33 PM
| AGAIN AND AGAIN, EPISODE AFTER EPISODE, TAKOPII'S ORIGINAL SIN IS THE BEST ANIME OF THE YEAR. let's hope the ending can deliver this anime for being the BEST anime of the year. |
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@RaidenSteiner highkey was only valid to hate Marina until the end of the second episode
| @Wispy09876 true oomfie |
| Shizuka image dump, cuz I've been posting one since ep1 Honestly, after one month of users claiming that this anime would have gone downhill towards the end, I was expecting something much worse than this. I don't mind the time travel plot twist at all, I actually even find it interesting. Takopii definitely represents something, I assume childish innocence and naivety. The author is trying to say that unhealthy situations and environments breed violence and harmful responses (Takopii talking about killing and slapping his mother, something completely unthinkable for the embodiments of innocence that are Happians), and Takopii is that theme made as a character. His contact with the human planet, the real world, tainted and corrupted his innocence, similarly to how Eve gave birth to a humanity tainted by sin after eating the Fruit of Knowledge (the "Original Sin"). The time travel shown in this episode is nothing but a device that allows the author to further explore that theme. A way more in-depth analysis can and should be absolutely be made here. Maybe I'll write someday... At this point, I doubt the ending will be as bad as some people say. Can't wait! |
 "Tarapia tapioco! Brematurata la supercazzola, o scherziamo?" |
| This episode had me like: It's impressive she made to the right place on her own, damn, wtf, he REALLY just let his daughter walk away like that? TF is wrong with him... Take, send her back, or at LEAST see her off, make sure she goes back safely... Her thick childish skull can't get, can it... WTF, SHE'S KILLING HIM, WTF, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU YOUNGER YOU'RE STILL YOUNG!!!! WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON I'M SO LOST, THIS EPISODE COMPLETELY LOST ME, IT'S SO CONFUSING, I'M SO CONFUSED, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, I'M SO LOST, WHAT, OH THEY'RE HIGHSCHOOLERS NOW, WHAT, WHAT, THINGS AREN'T ADDING UP, WHAT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH HER MOTHER, SHE CONFUSING HER DAUGHTER'S BOYFRIEND WITH HER HUSBAND OR WHAT!!!! AH WHATEVER, WHAT, WHAT, oh, OH, OOOOHHHHH..... NOW I GET IT, EVERYTHING FELL INTO PLACE, OH DAMN, OH HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED, It was so confusing but now it's so clear, somehow she gave him the same name!!!! He have one big ass mother, why ban him, tho? lol he hit his mother, Mari-chan trained him well lmao, and why you want him to talk to you when you banned him, lol they're all naive at that planet, oh how the tables have turned, what a MINDBLOWING twist, somehow he survived getting killed and I guess this time he picking Naoki. What a rollercoaster this episode was, one more to go, I'm not ready lol wish this anime was longer, it's sooooo good. |
| I'm stand with Kuze, you go girl, kill em all!! (Takopi too) |
| Takopi a dumbass fr bro shouldve stayed his ass in lala land eating happy fruit and shit |
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Reply to IzanaSolos
This episode shows everything I really hate about this series. It uses cheap emotional tricks, shock value, and over the top trauma to pretend it’s deep and meaningful. The animation and direction are great, and you can see how a normally calm, subtle director had to go more obvious here. It still works in some scenes, using contrast well like he’s done before with directors like Toshimasa Ishii. But since this is Takopii, it also has to include disturbing, uncomfortable parts. If Mori had directed the whole thing, maybe he would’ve toned that down, but with what he was given, I think he did the best he could without making it too gross.
As for the twist with time travel, alternate timelines, and Takopi forgetting his original mission (“original sin,” nice title drop I guess), t’s all just dumb. Marina’s mom is mad over something ridiculous. Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. Takopi’s home world and logic make no sense. And Takopi himself is still super annoying and totally out of place in tone. It’s all just so stupid. Like the abused kids absorbing the trauma around them, Takopi’s return to the “happy” world just feels even darker....
... all because now he’s carrying all that pain and still no one’s talking honestly about anything.
As for the twist with time travel, alternate timelines, and Takopi forgetting his original mission (“original sin,” nice title drop I guess), t’s all just dumb. Marina’s mom is mad over something ridiculous. Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. Takopi’s home world and logic make no sense. And Takopi himself is still super annoying and totally out of place in tone. It’s all just so stupid. Like the abused kids absorbing the trauma around them, Takopi’s return to the “happy” world just feels even darker....
... all because now he’s carrying all that pain and still no one’s talking honestly about anything.
IzanaSolos said: Shizuka is now somehow the real villain for killing a boy who liked her. When did that happen? |
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ready for the worst ending in all animanga next week, hope people will finally wake up and realize what kind of garbage they've been consuming
| @nwssx Bait used to be believable. The ending is great. |
Reply to Trapx1011
sosmetal said:
Marina
Completely overlooked. She killed Takopi also.
Marina
What's Azuma going to do anyways. Somehow the key to the puzzle.
Completely overlooked. She killed Takopi also.
I’m confused as to where in time the final scene was set? Obviously we say Shizuka about to hit takopi, but if she did indeed kill him right there then what was that scene with Azuma right at the end?
| @Trapx1011 Well, Takopii can't return to his home planet, and broke the camera, so there's no more time-travel for him. The only possible answer is that he escaped, or there's some other deus ex machina bullshit device he used without any foreshadowing. edit: or this happened after Marina, but before Shizuka, though I think this is least likely, as Takopii dying here would be dumb (although he absolutely deserves it). |
seeker_mocJul 25, 5:01 PM
| Wow, what an incredible twist. If I'm understanding right, Takopi first met Marina in 2022 as a high schooler and after her suicide, he went back in time to 2016 to kill Shizuka in fourth grade, but lost his memories as punishment for breaking Happian law and ended up helping Shizuka instead. It's tragic how both "timelines" ended up becoming more miserable as a result of Takopi's meddling, despite him having good intentions. This anime has truly been an amazing (yet depressing) experience and I'm excited to see how it wraps up next week in the finale. Hopefully the ending isn't a heartbreaker, we've already had enough suffering... I somehow doubt it'll be a happily ever for our main trio though. |
| takopi is so fucking dumb |
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| Holy crap. I was not expecting that plot twist man. Wow, I am speechless. Well first off, I expected that trip to not go well at all. As soon as I saw Shizuka's Dad holding one of his babies, I knew it was going to be bad. To make it even worse, Chappy wasn't even there and Chappy is probably just gone, dead even. The part that caught me the most off guard was for sure that time travel. And I thought that Marina was just putting out her anger out on Shizuka, but there was a real reason to it. Because of Shizuka, Marina's life completely fell apart, losing her Mom because of suicide right in front of you must have been the most traumatizing moment anyone could have. 4 episodes ago, I felt so bad for Shizuka but now I fell bad for Marina and I despised her in the first episode. Takopi just completely forgot about his mission to kill Shizuka, hence why, it's called "Takopi's Original Sin". I was mindblown by this episode, everything about Marina makes so much more sense now. I hope Marina has a happy ending. 5/5 |
IzanaSolos said: @rishabhvish__ You bringing up my profile doesn’t really matter. I’m not talking about what I like outside this show, I’m talking about this show and why I think it’s badly written. I don’t hate Takopii just because it’s dark. I hate it because it pretends to be deep by throwing in sad and shocking stuff without really saying anything. It uses trauma and emotional moments to force a reaction instead of actually building something meaningful. Yeah, I get why Marina’s mom was upset. But the way the show handled it still felt over the top and silly. That’s kind of the whole problem, everything is exaggerated to make you feel something, but it doesn’t feel real or earned. The time travel stuff, Takopii forgetting his mission, and the whole "original sin" thing just made the story messier. Takopii himself feels like he doesn’t belong in the story at all, his tone doesn’t match and he’s just annoying. So no, it’s not that I “don’t get it.” I just think it’s trying way too hard to be emotional without actually doing the work to back it up. (Again, you might not read all'dat) I feel you about Takopi being annoying, and to be honest, I really hated him too. He seems too annoying and doesn't react the way he should. But that’s what makes the show more “deep” (Ik you hate this word). It felt like he was really trying to understand human feelings and all. You can relate it to a kid who doesn’t know much about the feelings of people older than him, so his reaction to some events might seem super annoying—like, why the heck doesn’t he understand the situation? But when he gets older, he understands things more deeply and starts caring about others. Takopi is from a whole different planet, where there’s no word like “kill” or “die”. That just shows how different a species he is. When he switched bodies with the humans and saw things from their perspective, he realized what a mess the world really was, and he started understanding things more. Also, when Takopi forgets everything, he starts to feel annoying again. I know the show sounds too dramatic at some points to seem “deep,” but it is kind of deep. Let me explain. It’s a show about kids suffering from their parents and bullies. If you see a kid being beaten up by someone, you wouldn’t quickly think about who the bad guy is or what’s going on—you’d just think the bad guy is beating up the innocent one. So you don’t really need a set of dialogues to explain what’s happening. What’s happening is being told directly. The little dramatic exaggeration is just a “feel” of the perspective—of what it would’ve been like if it were happening in front of you. So I don’t really mind it at all. The show gives off perspective switches, and they are amazing. This show doesn’t tell you out loud who the bad or good person is—it makes you feel it from every perspective. Sorry about the profile thing and for talking aggressively. The thing is, it’s really been a while since I’ve watched something this good, so I got angry for, I guess, nothing. You’re a good guy for not talking back aggressively like I did. I looked at your profile again and, to be honest, your taste is pretty cool. I have to learn that, in the end, everyone has a personal taste. |
| Another phenomenal episode holy... I love every direction they take in this show, leaves me speechless every time. |
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