Solo leveling is an Isekai well done/written

Jan 4, 10:58 AM

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Driz

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This might be the best bait I've seen on this site in a minute. good job op

Jan 4, 11:25 AM

#152

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The only thing weaker than this bait is Solo Leveling’s character writing

Jan 4, 1:35 PM

#153

ItzZed_

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Not even an Isekai lmfao

Jan 4, 2:47 PM

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solo Leveling is not an Isekai.
yes the writing may have flaws but everyone here declaring It garbage or poorly written have just clearly watched the Anime.
If you read the Manwha you will see what amazing worldbuilding it has. and even deep connections, even though they come a bit short in the Manwha, but they are still there.
yes, there is a massive Hype around Solo Leveling, but there is also a reason why I have read though it 4 times already.
So be patient everyone, it will get better. And it will all make sense in the end

Jan 4, 2:56 PM

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How tf is this an isekai? LOL Let's be real here, the only redeeming qualities about this show are insane animation and music. In terms of story, it doesn't do anything special compared to other self-insert OP protag stories. It's a turn off your brain to enjoy the unga bunga action type of show. There is nothing wrong with enjoying this show for what it is, but let's stop pretending that this show is the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Jan 4, 2:59 PM

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God damn, imagine thinking this is good writing.
I guess that's what happens when your brain is so scrambled by social media apps you can't read more than a paragraph and your parents read one everage-ly written book about a certain wizard boy wizard in their whole lives and think it's the pinnacle of literary achievement.

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Jan 4, 3:12 PM

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It's certainly not well written. The characters have no personality and literally no one matters except for the main character. The dialogue is awful it's mostly just boring exposition dumps and explanations how "the game" works from characters who SHOULD know all of that but repeat it anyways because the author knows that his audience has tiktok brainrot attention spans and need everything explained to them by telling them rather than showing how things are.

Jan 4, 3:26 PM

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Isekai no.

Well written, yes.

At least you got one thing right.

@Cielord It's not even well written, the only thing it focuses on are the fights and the hype behind the protagonist (and if we want the art of the manhwa too) the rest like the story, characters, worldbuilding, etc... gets lost a lot

Jan 4, 3:33 PM

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@_otaku_man00 I think so too, it's overly hated due to it's popularity. It's kind of similar how demon slayer is hated. Yes solo leveling biggest flaws are it's lackluster storytelling and wasting good supporting characters. The two things that are definitely 10/10 are art & action.
Side note:If demon slayer wasn't adapted by ufotable it would be never popular as it is today, because i read the manga after mugen train movie the art & action are unrecognisable. Ufotable did pretty good job adapting it.

@Black_Raven_2299 Even Solo leveling if it didn't have a manhwa with a great art wouldn't be as popular as it is today... not to mention that there are manhwa that are definitely better drawn than Solo leveling, and Solo's flaws are also related to the story, the worldbuilding, the power system and many concepts that are never explored, but for the fights it's good

Jan 4, 3:36 PM

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duchessliz87 said:
Solo Leveling isn't an isekai. Also, Solo Leveling is a dime a dozen when it comes to manhwa and no where near one of the better written ones. But yes, isekai wise, at least, I do prefer the manhwa version of isekai over manga isekai.

Uh-huh. Would you be willing to recommend me some of the Best Manhwa?

I know ORV, TBATE and LOTM already. any good ones left?

@Shadow_Kurgansk There are many, it also depends on what you are looking for but I would recommend:
-SSS class revival Hunter
-Deepwater manhwa
-Existence
-The Horizon
-Melvina's Therapy

Jan 4, 3:52 PM

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Leon888

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Black_Raven_2299 said:
@_otaku_man00 I think so too, it's overly hated due to it's popularity. It's kind of similar how demon slayer is hated. Yes solo leveling biggest flaws are it's lackluster storytelling and wasting good supporting characters. The two things that are definitely 10/10 are art & action.
Side note:If demon slayer wasn't adapted by ufotable it would be never popular as it is today, because i read the manga after mugen train movie the art & action are unrecognisable. Ufotable did pretty good job adapting it.

bro,when it comes to solo leveling,,it is one of my favourite manhwa, what you said is true,,it may not have the best stories but it has something that isn't boring , art and action are 10/10,,i also love how they show jinwoo in this manhwa ,like if he wants to do something he will do it,,,i also love badass MC's ,,here it's done right and when it comes to side characters,yes they ignored it ,,,but with all this flaws it is still really good,,, most haters hate it because of its popularity and their favorite manhwas doesn't get this kind of love,,, i read many manhwas,manhuas and mangas but i still consider it as one of my favourites,,, because itay have flaws with all that they still have something I was looking forward to,,,that is a most badass mc with amazing art,,,i don't think i have seen other manhwa MC's as good as him...even in ORV i kind of don't like him as much as jinwoo

@_otaku_man00 Solo's flaws are also related to the story, the world building, the power system and many concepts that are never explored, but for the fights it is good and also for presenting a tough MC even if the problem is that Jinwoo wins the challenges too easily and the tension of the fights is lost.

Not to mention that the hate due to popularity is justified since it does not deserve all this popularity seeing how generic it is both in terms of story and characters.

The protagonist of Orv ironically is written much better than Jinwoo, Kim Dokja may not be as tough as Jinwoo, but he is certainly much more human and recognizable in his choices, as well as characterized extremely well, something that Jinwoo instead focuses only on how strong he is and not on the psychology that could surround the character

Jan 4, 4:01 PM

#162

Leon888

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What a loser manhwa fanboy that love power fantasy trash like most manhwa that copy paste solo leveling and been doing it for the last 5 years because they can't come up with an original story lmao

@Sashijiro You don't make yourself look any better by saying this... since there are so many different manhwa out there and many with a unique story, you just have to search and you will be satisfied, limiting it to saying that it is a copy and paste would be like saying that Japanese anime are all a copy and paste regarding isekai or battle shonen, which is not the case.

Jan 4, 4:07 PM

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solo Leveling is not an Isekai.
yes the writing may have flaws but everyone here declaring It garbage or poorly written have just clearly watched the Anime.
If you read the Manwha you will see what amazing worldbuilding it has. and even deep connections, even though they come a bit short in the Manwha, but they are still there.
yes, there is a massive Hype around Solo Leveling, but there is also a reason why I have read though it 4 times already.
So be patient everyone, it will get better. And it will all make sense in the end

@babsebu Which is not true at all, Solo leveling is just focused on showing how OP the protagonist is, that's it, the worldbuilding is one of the worst things I've ever seen, since they are not even able to properly present the various nations and their strengths, but only serve to present other strong Hunters to only highlight Jinwoo, it can't even show you the 5 national rank Hunters who defeated Kamish, since 2 of them were never even mentioned in the whole story, which is quite ridiculous

Jan 4, 6:40 PM

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"RPG fantasy = isekai"

Oh gee wow, no wonder why this series has such a bloated-ass rating right now if the most devoted fans are really this illiterate.

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Jan 4, 6:55 PM

#165

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Solo Leveling is NOT a isekai, it's a Portal Fantasy with Progression Fantasy elements.

Its amazing how everything is isekai nowadays for you americans.

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Jan 4, 6:56 PM

#166

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I don't think solo leveling is an Isekai by any means, but its most definitely not a trash anime. The hate in this forum is crazy

Jan 4, 7:43 PM

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SanessyAdversary said:
@Confused_100 What's with my rating on csm and aot got to do with this topic lol. Everybody has their own taste but that doesn't define them as a personality trait y'know.

Because you are no different to the baiter here. You said something negative in the middle of a good response for an anime you didn’t like just to score points.

You know sometimes criticism is great but negativity is bad.

@Confused_100 I mean yeah ofc I get your point with criticism and negativity and all so I always accept criticism no matter how crappy they are + I don't mean aot and the others are I scored are bad or decent well written for example I loved AOT's action and plot more than csm but I prefer csm because the characters in it are way more fun/entertaining than AOT.

And yes, that goes the same to you as well with criticism and negativity talk because hey it's the freakin internet we're talking abt here so basically the same thing can be applied to you being a bait because hell I literally trust almost no one XD.

No one will ever 100% get satisfied because that's just how anime fans and I work normally like it's your average day in X/Twitter.

All in all, all anime fans will never get along even quite well with whatever good or bad opinions they give to each other -_-

Jan 4, 7:46 PM

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@Sashijiro You don't make yourself look any better by saying this... since there are so many different manhwa out there and many with a unique story, you just have to search and you will be satisfied, limiting it to saying that it is a copy and paste would be like saying that Japanese anime are all a copy and paste regarding isekai or battle shonen, which is not the case.

@Leon888 I don't make myself better in the first place, there's just so many delusional manhwa fan that think power fantasy trash is good at least be aware that your reading trash, thats quite ironic cause my fav genre is literally fantasy/isekai and if theres a so called unique story then name it? Also most of them were light novels or web novels sources so it doesn't count if the manhwa main sources is Light novel/webnovel

Jan 4, 8:27 PM

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Bogdan_226 said:

Zarutaku said:

Sister Leveling is brocon well done.

now thats the good shit

what do you mean it was always the best shit.

Jan 4, 8:48 PM

#170

Krym3655

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not isekai and not well written. Solo leveling is generic power fantasy

Jan 4, 9:19 PM

#171

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Leon888 said:
@_otaku_man00 Solo's flaws are also related to the story, the world building, the power system and many concepts that are never explored, but for the fights it is good and also for presenting a tough MC even if the problem is that Jinwoo wins the challenges too easily and the tension of the fights is lost.

Not to mention that the hate due to popularity is justified since it does not deserve all this popularity seeing how generic it is both in terms of story and characters.

The protagonist of Orv ironically is written much better than Jinwoo, Kim Dokja may not be as tough as Jinwoo, but he is certainly much more human and recognizable in his choices, as well as characterized extremely well, something that Jinwoo instead focuses only on how strong he is and not on the psychology that could surround the character

you should know both are different stories,,and has different characters,,in orv mc knows almost everything still is weak and almost loses fights,gets random power ups ,,that manhua doesn't explain or has better monologue from mc ,, i love how sl doesn't do those bullshit just goes straight and simple..

and hate due to popularity,,,only hates are those who loves other manhwas,," it gets hate because it doesn't deserve it" ?? what do you mean ,,no one deserves hate ,,if it has bad things like mushoku tensei,where mc cheats on his wife or all the shit he does then it's fine ,but hate on sl is just shows how narrow minded you are..you can be not satisfied with what it ignored in this manhwa but hate doesn't justify it's popularity.

Jan 4, 9:23 PM

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Ryuseishun said:
"RPG fantasy = isekai"

Oh gee wow, no wonder why this series has such a bloated-ass rating right now if the most devoted fans are really this illiterate.

i am it's most devoted,,,what do you mean illiterate?? you are justifying others based on a one manhwa then just understand how illiterate you are ,,,in the end it's just a fantasy story,,there are different opinions but calling illiterate shows how illiterate and braindeas you are.

Jan 4, 11:24 PM

#173

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Its garbage, characters get bussed to no where, plot writing is all over the place, everyone stands around and jobs while the MC is the best ever, and the whole world makes no sense.

The portals and game systems are not of this world so tecnically its an isekai where you can jump back in the same vein SAO was a isekai where you could hop back to reality. Just SAO is infinitely better written ironically than solo leveling garbage where the magical in world plot gives you a UI dialog popup with a question where the only answer is "yes" which makes the dialog pointless since that would just be a message in a better designed plot since the dialog choices are meaningless and there is only one to begin with.

Yesterday, 12:34 AM

#174

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SL plays on popularity & entertainment, and it does it right...can't say 'well' written but it serves it's purpose ig? And no not Isekai either.
There are so many fans already and that's the real goal here for the makers.

OSTs and Animation is what's keeping this up.
If by chance there's even 1 episode of this badly animated, the hate will be just as strong in my opinion. That's about it

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Yesterday, 2:56 AM

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SanessyAdversary said:
@Confused_100 I mean yeah ofc I get your point with criticism and negativity and all so I always accept criticism no matter how crappy they are + I don't mean aot and the others are I scored are bad or decent well written for example I loved AOT's action and plot more than csm but I prefer csm because the characters in it are way more fun/entertaining than AOT.

And yes, that goes the same to you as well with criticism and negativity talk because hey it's the freakin internet we're talking abt here so basically the same thing can be applied to you being a bait because hell I literally trust almost no one XD.

No one will ever 100% get satisfied because that's just how anime fans and I work normally like it's your average day in X/Twitter.

All in all, all anime fans will never get along even quite well with whatever good or bad opinions they give to each other -_-

I respect that. It’s your opinion, but saying in a thread about solo leveling that the story isn’t great (which I accept) but you doubled down with the not good either when it wants to be. Like your opinion was given but the negativity came out there, which drives the conversation south fast.

What I did was to tell you: hey it’s better to say your opinion but expressing way too much negativity like that is not good. Criticising is perfect.

Now I would like to talk with you about the csm characters being perfect to you remark compared to aot. It is your opinion but I find it interesting. Maybe when the movie comes out, we can talk in that thread.

Yesterday, 4:02 PM

#176

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Leon888 said:
@_otaku_man00 Solo's flaws are also related to the story, the world building, the power system and many concepts that are never explored, but for the fights it is good and also for presenting a tough MC even if the problem is that Jinwoo wins the challenges too easily and the tension of the fights is lost.

Not to mention that the hate due to popularity is justified since it does not deserve all this popularity seeing how generic it is both in terms of story and characters.

The protagonist of Orv ironically is written much better than Jinwoo, Kim Dokja may not be as tough as Jinwoo, but he is certainly much more human and recognizable in his choices, as well as characterized extremely well, something that Jinwoo instead focuses only on how strong he is and not on the psychology that could surround the character

you should know both are different stories,,and has different characters,,in orv mc knows almost everything still is weak and almost loses fights,gets random power ups ,,that manhua doesn't explain or has better monologue from mc ,, i love how sl doesn't do those bullshit just goes straight and simple..

and hate due to popularity,,,only hates are those who loves other manhwas,," it gets hate because it doesn't deserve it" ?? what do you mean ,,no one deserves hate ,,if it has bad things like mushoku tensei,where mc cheats on his wife or all the shit he does then it's fine ,but hate on sl is just shows how narrow minded you are..you can be not satisfied with what it ignored in this manhwa but hate doesn't justify it's popularity.

@_otaku_man00 No you are wrong on several points: in ORV the protagonist is not weak, at the beginning obviously he is not very strong, but then with the power-ups he gets he makes an absurd leap in quality that has also defined him as the strongest in a saga even surpassing the other protagonist, the power-ups are not random, they are explained you just have to pay attention to the explanations because they are detailed, on the fact that he knows about the story, yes this will be a powerful card at the beginning, but the further it goes the more this card will prove to be counterproductive. in SL he doesn't bother to explain anything to you, like how many classes are there? What type of classes exist? How does the double awakening occur? Why aren't we shown all 5 national hunters and their full powers? Etc...

I don't care about MT, for me that anime might not even exist, but regarding the popularity of Solo leveling, I don't think it's fair, because the work is very mediocre in many aspects and many other manhwa that have made an extra effort in creating something of higher quality instead don't receive the same treatment, and I find this unfair, why is a mediocre work praised while other high quality ones are instead left out by the fandom? That's all

Yesterday, 4:04 PM

#177

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SL plays on popularity & entertainment, and it does it right...can't say 'well' written but it serves it's purpose ig? And no not Isekai either.
There are so many fans already and that's the real goal here for the makers.

OSTs and Animation is what's keeping this up.
If by chance there's even 1 episode of this badly animated, the hate will be just as strong in my opinion. That's about it

@MickeyMinaj You can find many weak episodes to be honest, season 1 episode 1 is an example, I don't understand why many say it has fantastic animations, they seem just slightly above average in some points and below average in others

Yesterday, 4:09 PM

#178

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@Leon888 I don't make myself better in the first place, there's just so many delusional manhwa fan that think power fantasy trash is good at least be aware that your reading trash, thats quite ironic cause my fav genre is literally fantasy/isekai and if theres a so called unique story then name it? Also most of them were light novels or web novels sources so it doesn't count if the manhwa main sources is Light novel/webnovel

@Sashijiro I'll mention a few that I found interesting and that have quite original plots:
-The Horizon
-Distant Sky
-Deepwater
-Days of Hana
-Death's Game
-Melvina's Therapy
-Existence

Yesterday, 9:01 PM

#179

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Leon888 said:
@_otaku_man00 No you are wrong on several points: in ORV the protagonist is not weak, at the beginning obviously he is not very strong, but then with the power-ups he gets he makes an absurd leap in quality that has also defined him as the strongest in a saga even surpassing the other protagonist, the power-ups are not random, they are explained you just have to pay attention to the explanations because they are detailed, on the fact that he knows about the story, yes this will be a powerful card at the beginning, but the further it goes the more this card will prove to be counterproductive. in SL he doesn't bother to explain anything to you, like how many classes are there? What type of classes exist? How does the double awakening occur? Why aren't we shown all 5 national hunters and their full powers? Etc...

I don't care about MT, for me that anime might not even exist, but regarding the popularity of Solo leveling, I don't think it's fair, because the work is very mediocre in many aspects and many other manhwa that have made an extra effort in creating something of higher quality instead don't receive the same treatment, and I find this unfair, why is a mediocre work praised while other high quality ones are instead left out by the fandom? That's all

are you a novel reader of orv ??

i read manhwa 3 times , i think up to maybe 130+ ,i really felt like it's boring, and he really gets random powers ups in every seninario,, also for example side characters who knows a little bit of future are stronger then mc when they meet for the first time , mc and novel mc almost died in the beginning because of that but survives because of random skill powerups .

that fl calls mc ugly for no reason,,i hate tsundare fls when they show discrimination to mc , mc doesn't care about that tho,,

it's just mc feels like a background guy and doesn't explain the scenario in that manhwa,,, i don't read novels ,,but that felt boring for me,, when it comes to action it's good but not great,, art is great,, i feel it has many loop holes same as sl,,it's just that sl doesn't tries to be smartass ,,

and i think it deserves it's popularity because there is something that I like about sl regardless of its flaws and many people too,, you can't say others are wrong for liking it,,, you can not like it but directly hating it because of other manhwa is not good, it's called jealous,,,you may have other favourite manhwa but just don't hate it bro.

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#180

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@MickeyMinaj You can find many weak episodes to be honest, season 1 episode 1 is an example, I don't understand why many say it has fantastic animations, they seem just slightly above average in some points and below average in others

@Leon888 I don't find myself impressed with it either, heck I wouldn't even have watched it if not for the insane PR game. They marketed it as something really exceptionally great which it kinda isn't. There's better stuff out there still underrated. Manhwa is a different story though. But my point was, most people seem happy with it still, at least for now.

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#181

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Solo leveling, if it was an iseaki, would be too 20 for me… it ain’t that good but I enjoy it.

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