| Beatrice is bae. (character limit) |
"Humans are like isolated islands, floating in the sea of fate. Human encounters are like the collision of these lonely islands, and once they touch, there would be an effect. Sometimes, the islands would stick together, in the name of ‘interest’, ‘kinship’, ‘friendship’, ‘love’ and ‘hate’. But eventually, they would separate, walking towards the path of destruction. This is the truth behind life." -Fang Yuan |
| Well subjectively, the animations are not real people. So often i feel no shame in being attracted to a fictional character. For example, the way they are drawn anyway is meant to get you a little worked up. That's the aesthetic. In Conclusion, If he or she is a cutie pa-tootie you bet my anime fictional character self would hop right on that thang!!!  |
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ria_sora said: Ironic how, if you ask male anime fans about "husbandos", most usually respond "no because i am not gay". So they do recognize attraction to a cartoon man and a living breathing human male as an indicator of homosexuality both the same. But at the same time, attraction to a cartoon child doesn't make one a pedophile. Cuz it's a drawing :^) How convenient. we can look at this in reverse. There are many women who refer to an anime girl as their waifu. That wouldn't make them lesbians. |
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LostSpectre said: How on earth is a man liking dick not gay?SeproDep said: That's not even remotely true, bisexual means an attraction to men, not whether you think dick girls are hot.I like futa. I've admitted to being bisexual multiple times because I like women and dicks. Enjoying futa makes you bisexual. Therefore, liking loli makes you a pedophile. I have no idea what's so hard to understand about this. |
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According to MAL, I want to have sex with a flower because I find Lilamon attractive. |
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SeproDep said: the logic is that the dick by itself isn't male. The world where futanari exists assumes the existence of female dick therefore its not gay as you're exhibiting attraction towards the woman being fucked and the woman fucking her, not to the dick joining them together.LostSpectre said: How on earth is a man liking dick not gay?That's not even remotely true, bisexual means an attraction to men, not whether you think dick girls are hot. And loli waifus don't make you a pedophile obviously anyone with a brain can tell you this since there's no equivalent of them in real life? Rofl@ all of the above users arguing otherwise |
| Not only is it okay, it should be encouraged. Lolis are good for the soul. |
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| This thread is why people think anime fans are creeps |
SeproDep said: LostSpectre said: How on earth is a man liking dick not gay?That's not even remotely true, bisexual means an attraction to men, not whether you think dick girls are hot. Have you ever been a part of or even listened to a fetish or BDSM community? If a man dates a transgender woman, it does not indicate that they are also sexually or romantically attracted to men. Enjoying pegging and such also does not indicate that they are into men. Even thinking about giving a blowjob does not indicate that they are into men. Additionally, there are other phenomena such as straight women enjoying lesbian porn. |
ria_sora said: Ironic how, if you ask male anime fans about "husbandos", most usually respond "no because i am not gay". So they do recognize attraction to a cartoon man and a living breathing human male as an indicator of homosexuality both the same. But at the same time, attraction to a cartoon child doesn't make one a pedophile. Cuz it's a drawing :^) How convenient. Jeez... Is this actually a serious thought process? lmao |
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| @Opticflash There is no bijection of course (you have used six times the word one-to-one yet speak about "complexity" of human psychology... or how to misuse mathematical terminology for dubious causes), but there is a clear multi-valued map between the two categories given by the forgetful functor called "Morals & Law." |
| Yes it's okay. People who get up and arms to defend any fictional character really needs to go outside. |
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| its something that doesn't really seem fie for me, mostly because lolis remind of kids, same for shotas, so it weird me out a little, but its not something negative di per se but it mostly doesn't fit well for me |
| If it's gradually showned to you, then yeah I can see why someone would like a loli. But I do not think it's ethical, it has been normalized but I can't seem to understand the appeal. I dont really know what to think of people who are attracted to "lolis". It seems harmless yet immoral, do what you like as long as that doesn't transcend into something dark. I'm not fond of it being okay, it doesn't seem okay. |
| I wouldn't consider them "waifus" but I do have Aisaka Taiga, Oshino Shinobu, Shirai Kuroko, and Beatrice (Re:Zero) in my favorites |
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Meusnier said: @Opticflash There is no bijection of course (you have used six times the word one-to-one yet speak about "complexity" of human psychology... or how to misuse mathematical terminology for dubious causes), but there is a clear multi-valued map between the two categories given by the forgetful functor called "Morals & Law." I was not thinking of any mathematical analogue when using any terms during the discussion. Regardless of whether you believe I have misused any terminology, it should be clear what the ideas of the discussion were around. "Morals & Law" is a separate topic to how some people are attracted to lolis but not necessarily real life children, and I was discussing the latter. |
| Everyday we stray further away from God. |
| Yeah, I don't see why not. It's not like it's harming anyone or anything. |
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| I don't really join that many discussions in the otaku community, but can someone please explain to me, not joking at all, the justification for the dissociation between fiction and reality when it comes to liking lolis? Like, I think that the characters that I am interested in or find compelling are those that are recognisable and correspond to real, human traits and behaviours. Like, a character that doesn't even resemble how a real person would think or act comes across as bad writing to me. I guess characters can just be vehicles to explore tropes or gags, but isn't that a different conversation? So, if you have a compelling, believable loli character, and you are attracted to them, how is that not similar to being attracted to human children? I get if you like a character because they are funny or cute, they can be endearing but not in a sexual way...idk help |
| Lolis are amazing! So of course its ok to like them! actually, its weird if you dont like them :)) Anyone who relates liking lolis to being a pedophile is braindead as fuck, even liking the sexualization of lolis is not even close to pedophilia. |
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| I'm not even interested in lolis but theres nothing wrong with that its just fiction. I find older women in anime more attractive but I dont like it in real life. As long as you can distinguish fiction and reality theres no problem at all dont listen to the angry american SJWs in this thread |
| Yes. There's nothing wrong with that. |
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| yes, loli waifus are normal because they're just fictional characters |
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| Personally i never saw the charm for loli and don't know why they are so popular as i like women in anime who are bit older, like why men should go for someone with no bewbs and butts but then i don't judge as these are just fictional characters so go ahead and have as many as loli waifus, it's your life afterall. |
Tats_Spill_TeaNov 21, 2021 12:14 AM
| 2023 might be the year where I will be happy. This year is not happy year. |
| Creepy. Don't say loli, just say child. Don't say lolicon, just say pedophile. If you think having an attraction to a character that looks like a child is normal, then you need to get a social life. |
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Mirai said: logopolis said: This question is media-illiterate. You do not understand what happens when a person looks at a drawing. It's like Mary Whitehouse commenting on freeze-frames. You're confusing a child and a collection of pixels. These are not the same thing. So when you see a loli, you don't recognize it as a child? What do you see it as? He'll respond with "a 2D image". We'll respond with "of what". He'll avoid giving a proper answer. All Lolicons are like this. All Furries are like this. All Incest lovers are like this. Lol |
| Yep it's okay if you are fine with having one |
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| Short answer = No. Long answer, do whatever you want noones going to stop you, just don't drag other people into it. |
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| How to make a successful thread step one: mention lolis step 2: profit fr though some of you guys gotta get over your attraction to drawings of naked children |
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| all lolis are queens and big anime tiddies for life yeah it's totally acceptable even in the doujin world and i read a lot of loli doujin so i can relate to this sentiment. |
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| as long as they're 2d then it's fine, but if they're not then you should probably get some help. |
 In this world shrouded in darkness, I learned there was someone who’d been struggling along with me. That alone is enough.  |
| As long as it’s not an ACTUAL kid, then it’s okay I guess |
 I hope no one I know irl sees my secret account~ Anyways, do I look cute in this outfit?~ |
| I have Kanna on my list because she's adorable and I want to hug her :3 |
"......If I told you that I was a real witch, would you believe it?"  |
Avicebrons said: HottestCrabEver said: Liking lolis makes you a pedophile Is like saying video game's violence makes you a murderer Not really though. There's a clear difference. To be a murderer you actually need to act on it. You need to have murdered someone. To be a pedophile though, you don't need to act on anything. You simply have to feel a certain way. I don't feel like being a pedophile matters until you act on your urges, so in that sense, the argument holds up. Also, you ignored the basis of the argument and twisted the words. Everyone knows that video games don't make you violent or more likely to commit crimes in the real world. I don't get why people don't understand that it works in the same way with lolis. I can admit to being turned on by them, but not because I'm a pedophile. -They're drawn with the intent to make them look appealing. In children's shows, I don't start salivating over some normal-looking young characters. Granted, I'm not someone that actively looks for these kinds of things, but I think it's like this for the vast, vast majority of people. -Again, they're perfectly separated from reality. People keep saying that liking lolis means you are a pedophile, but how many times have you heard that the people who watch and 'enjoy' this kind of content committed an actual crime? I'm sure that if there were any cases like this, the media would pick it up and it'd be on the internet non-stop. Why can't people be allowed to like whatever they want to, at least in the fictional world? Those that want to mingle with children will, it's not a matter of whether you like an underaged character in a fictional story or not. The digital space is supposed to be a complete getaway from the real world, that's why it's so sought-after in the first place... |
| it's only ok if you have a loli as waifu! |
Opticflash said: Meusnier said: @Opticflash There is no bijection of course (you have used six times the word one-to-one yet speak about "complexity" of human psychology... or how to misuse mathematical terminology for dubious causes), but there is a clear multi-valued map between the two categories given by the forgetful functor called "Morals & Law." I was not thinking of any mathematical analogue when using any terms during the discussion. Regardless of whether you believe I have misused any terminology, it should be clear what the ideas of the discussion were around. "Morals & Law" is a separate topic to how some people are attracted to lolis but not necessarily real life children, and I was discussing the latter. I see, but this usage seemed slightly odd to me since no one argued that such a univalent correspondence between those two categories of physical attraction (fictional and real) existed. In posts #84 and #95, you simply stated this non-existence reason, and if you elaborated more in post #90, you still repeated this statement and tried arguing about possibilities and borderline possible counter-examples (in the first paragraph: "Can we disregard the idea..."). And if I get it right, what a lot of people are stating here is that there is a strong dependence between what one likes in fiction (where more inhibitions disappear, and this is why I spoke about "Morals & Law;" think of Redo and of all the deluded individuals who thought that enjoying this show and not finding a good number of scenes disturbing did not say anything about themselves... Eventually, it all boils down to the sophistry "fiction has no influence on reality" made by the illiterates and those afraid of possible censorship who confuse critique and prohibition) and reality, and I am bewildered to see that you did not acknowledge that. |
yes it's right I don't have one but still it's right to have one |
| it's totally ok if it's only 2d if you actually like real children in that way get some help |
HottestCrabEver said: Well yes but actually no. Loli Shinobu is definitely one of the best that I've seen But milf shinobu can not be ignored You know what I mean, she gets the best of both worlds. |
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!| "Did you forget already? In my word the color "red" doesn't exist. These must be...my tears. Ever since I woke up from my coma...I think I've been waiting for this very moment. You'd do well to remember this, Maya. The only time a lawyer can cry is when it's all over." (Ace Attorney T&T: Bridge to the Turnabout) "I'm my worst critic." (Kendrick Lamar)  |
Ayashimon said: it's totally ok if it's only 2d if you actually like real children in that way get some help I wouldn't call it totally ok, but its no where near as bad as if you liked children in real life. Like you wouldn't tell your parents you like lolis would you? |
from the moment you are not obsessed with a 5 year old loli when you are 40, everything is fine  |
cattyvampNov 21, 2021 9:27 AM
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