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May 8, 2021 9:55 PM

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If you have less than 20 days watched and you're judging people by how they rate then you're just a poser and your opinion doesn't matter. Figured if we're setting arbitrary rules might as well make it fair. /s

To address the actual point though, no you shouldn't view ratings as rankings those are 2 very different metrics.

Two shows can have nothing even remotely in common and have very different merits but still end up at the same rating because they are being viewed independently of each other. As soon as you start to compare shows that have nothing in common in a ranking system and based on personal taste you are no longer rating the shows on their own merits.

Ratings are generally determined based on individual elements in the series as perceived by the viewer, if their only standard for rating is enjoyment it is still vastly superior to a ranking system. To elaborate a person who relies on a ranking system will almost always develop their opinion of a series as compared to another series where a person who rates on enjoyment can consider why they enjoyed the series which leads to much more critical thinking of the elements in that series. Ranking systems are just lazy for ratings.
May 8, 2021 9:58 PM
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Ringtomb said:
This tells me you have a standard and can determine good anime from bad anime. I don't even care what that standard is, it tells me more about you as a person even if you might hate an anime I love. I hate people who only hand out scores above a 5 like all anime is equally good.

A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down.

Edit: Yeah all these replies are exactly the response I expected to get, thank you for calling me a redditor cringe elitist edgelord cuck


I wonder what kind of response you wanted to get. If you "expected this kind of reply" but wanted a different kind, why did you not change your post to line up with kind of reply you wanted?

That put aside, many people have already objectively told you why it's non-sense to expect everyone to follow the same rating system that you demanded and how or why they use their own rating system.

Another point that i did not see raised is that you also have to consider that most anime already passed a filter in order to get adapted (unless it's original) in the first place. A lot of people would be doing their jobs badly if most anime was not enjoyable to some extent. Viewers don't care about how high the quality of something is or not, they just care about how much they enjoy it. How sensitive the enjoyment of something is to changes in quality varies from person to person.
May 8, 2021 10:04 PM
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Its their score for future reference. Why don't you mind your own score
people like different things and have different taste mostly.
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May 8, 2021 10:04 PM

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You were asking for these responses.

Honestly, I have to agree with the people saying who cares. Let people do what they want. With that said, I can agree with how it's bothersome seeing people give out 10s to everything without distinctly pointing out the differences in shows. Still, that's my opinion. They're free to do what they want.

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May 8, 2021 10:04 PM

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May 8, 2021 10:11 PM
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ManWild said:
My anime mean score is under 6 and my manga mean score is under 4 but I still strongly disagree with the point of "should". People can rate and enjoy whatever they want to.


Basically, exactly my opinion on this. The only real difference is that my anime mean is a bit above six, and my manga mean is a lot above four.

Katou81 said:
Having a mean below 7 means you're an edgy teen who thinks rating stuff low makes you cool and edgy

If you dont enjoy watching anime and you want to rate everything low, just stop watching. No one is forcing you to watch


This, on the other hand, just feels like a wrong take in the opposite direction of the original post. As stated above, people can rate however they want, but also, six is a positive score, hell even five is a positive score, so how in the world does having a six mean make you edgy?
May 8, 2021 10:25 PM

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This is only true if you've watched a lot of anime. You're unlikely to watch bad shows when you first start watching anime because there are so many good anime that you haven't watched yet.
May 8, 2021 11:05 PM
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I think most of these guys just responded without actually reading what you had to say

Although people are free to rate how they want, duh, this floor is made of floor. Nothing wrong with a dude not being too critical and just having a good time and enjoying themselves. Just because there's a rating system doesn't mean a dude is obligated to become a full-on critic.

I get your point, if your average is too high then it's harder to differentiate between which anime you liked more than the other (unless for some reason you like THAT many anime equally, somehow?). An average anime for me will get a 4/10 or 5/10. That way it leaves more space for the good anime, and so that I can show which ones I liked more than others. I just want to be able to utilize the full spectrum you know. And also it has already been mentioned but ranking indeed isn't the same as rating. I RATED highschool dxd and vinland saga both with a 6/10. They both do a good enough job at what their purpose was. But obviously vinland saga is the better anime and would be RANKED way above highschool dxd.

THAT ALL SAID, if one dude has an average of 8 and then another dude has an average of 4, I am going to be way more compelled to look at the dude's list with the average of 4. I mean what's interesting to see when a guy's list is all just 8's 9's and 10's? It's way more interesting and easier to see someone's tastes when their average is low. But that's just me, rate however tf you want. It's free real estate lmao
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May 8, 2021 11:16 PM
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YOU ARE damn wrong,,Too damn wrong no,,It should always be above 6.1 and below 9.5
May 8, 2021 11:32 PM

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If anything, its rather sad if my mean score was really low. Just thinking of how much time I wasted on something I didnt like. Id like to believe I had better uses for my time. This thread was amusing though.

But you know what TC. I bet you are a reddit user.
May 8, 2021 11:39 PM

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Sakuta002766 said:
"Your mean score should be below a 7"

Who decided that
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"I hate people who only hand out scores above a 5 like all anime is equally good"

Imagine hating people just because of anime score


Exactly. Why should my mean rating or my taste should bound to certain rules? Who decide that? Don't say God...

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May 9, 2021 12:18 AM

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Dude check out my list and tell me your thoughts. Can we be friends.
May 9, 2021 12:48 AM

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I never rate below 5.You cannot force me to change my ratings haha.

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May 9, 2021 12:52 AM
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Nah, fuck that. If you want to know my opinion on a show it's best to just ask me, because I hardly think most of my ratings are reflective of my thoughts anyway, since half of them haven't been updated in seven years.

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May 9, 2021 12:57 AM
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In my case if it is below 7, it was less than what I consider good. It’s still acceptable and watchable if between 5 and 6, but 4 or lower is bad for me.
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May 9, 2021 1:00 AM
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wtf does that even mean? i can't understand
May 9, 2021 3:41 AM

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I'd like for everyone to make proper use of the scoring scale.

However, the reality is that people can use whatever scoring system they please.

At the end of the day, it doesn't bother me that much at all what their mean score is.
May 9, 2021 3:46 AM

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Let's be honest, the more anime you watch, the lower your average score will get if you're using the ratings correctly, and after a while, it should stabilise (stay within .1), as I think mine's doing around now. If it's still high after around 500 anime, I'd be questioning if that person even knows how to rate shows, or they even get entertained this much by flies on the wall. At least a lower score, not too low of a score, means that you have variety and generally you can filter out a certain taste.
May 9, 2021 4:03 AM
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Zefyris said:
So we're having hot takes on peoples' mean score here?
Let me have a go at it then :
"You're supposed to pick what you watch so that it fits your taste as much as possible. So the lower your mean score, the more catastrophic your ability to learn from your mistakes and choose better what you watch is".

Someone finally said it
That's exactly how is it
May 9, 2021 4:05 AM

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I'm quite proud of my 6.90 mean score, I'd like to maintain it as long as possible.
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May 9, 2021 4:05 AM

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Meh. Scores were never meant to be taken in an objective manner. Scoring animes, or anything in general, will always be opinion based. I get the whole "There are bad and there are good animes" take, but if someone unironically rates everything high, then who cares. If they're genuinely enjoying everything they watch, then let them.
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May 9, 2021 4:06 AM

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People still trying to push their scoring systems onto others in 2021?? Boooooo
May 9, 2021 4:19 AM

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Seriously, is there a rule in MAL that states our mean scores should be below 7? People can be stupid I can't even comprehend them.
May 9, 2021 4:33 AM

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Meh... At the end, it's just a score. Nothing important.
May 9, 2021 4:49 AM

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Literally no cares about your scores if your opinions are dogshit anyway. Giving lower scores doesn't magically make you a better """""critic""""".
May 9, 2021 4:51 AM

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the solution is obviously decimal scoring

May 9, 2021 5:04 AM

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Lmao. Who cares about what you think, man? I have a mean score of 7.71 and that's coz I avoid watching bad shows (except when it's the worst like Skelter heaven or MoD). Well, sorry for not being a masochist. Most of the shows that I watched are shows that are objectively good or shows of a particular genre that I prefer. Why tf should I give them a score below 5? And honestly, if you have a score below 5, why do you bother watching anime when you don't like it? I enjoy watching anime, so I have a score above 7. And idgaf what you think about that.
May 9, 2021 5:20 AM
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Ringtomb said:
This tells me you have a standard and can determine good anime from bad anime. I don't even care what that standard is, it tells me more about you as a person even if you might hate an anime I love. I hate people who only hand out scores above a 5 like all anime is equally good.


The same can be applied to the other direction. If your MAL score is below 5 or 4, it shows me that you’re excessively cruel while watching anime and hate most of what you see. Feel like the mean score should be right done the middle.
May 9, 2021 5:29 AM

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Lmao this tread is amazing
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May 9, 2021 5:52 AM

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That's not necessarily true, someone could just watch a bunch of really good animes. Should they be too harsh on those shows just to ensure a lower mean score?
May 9, 2021 6:07 AM

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Ringtomb said:
This tells me you have a standard and can determine good anime from bad anime. I don't even care what that standard is, it tells me more about you as a person even if you might hate an anime I love. I hate people who only hand out scores above a 5 like all anime is equally good.

A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down.

Edit: Yeah all these replies are exactly the response I expected to get, thank you for calling me a redditor cringe elitist edgelord cuck


This mentality is an excellent way to show that you enjoy things less. Sounds...fun?

My mean score is currently 8.26. If that means that I usually have a good time while I'm watching anime, that seems ideal to me. This doesn't mean that I don't have my favorites, it doesn't mean that I don't criticize things enough. I just care more about the reasons to like an anime rather than the reasons to dislike it.
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May 9, 2021 6:20 AM

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Eh i dont really care how ppl score at the end of the day so it doesnt bother me if their mean score is above a 7.
May 9, 2021 6:31 AM

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I agree in that lists with mean scores below 7 are more interesting and tell more about the user's tastes than those with means above 7, but of course at the end of the day nobody is anyone to tell others how they should use their scores.
May 9, 2021 6:35 AM

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Ringtomb said:
Edit: Yeah all these replies are exactly the response I expected to get, thank you for calling me a redditor cringe elitist edgelord cuck


i mean. theyre not wrong tbh you kinda are
May 9, 2021 6:52 AM

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mine is 7.53 and i watched and rewatched many of them.I dont watch just any anime that comes out and besides i give 7 to anime that was ok.I enjoyed it somewhat and dont consider it a waste of my time,i gave lower scores to those who were truly bad but even then i cant say that i found an anime that had absolutely no enjoyment in it.
My lowest score was 5 because even in those anime who has terrible story and ending i could still find some kind of interest or a little bit of enjoyment in them but it was so little that so i will definitely wont give it higher grade but wont give it lower either,anime is anime and just being huge anime fans and watching anime when ever i can means that even worst anime would still be anime and would have some
good thing about it even if its a small thing but its still anime at the end.Things would be different if the scores were 1-5 only but they are not.
And honestly dont really care about what people think about my score,if my average is 7 then it means i enjoyed them,those who get 8,9 and 10 were truly awesome to me so anime that i gave 8,9,10 are the ones that could show my interest and who i am and what i like as a person but even then it doesnt mean much cuz i gave those scores to many different types and maybe if i watched them again they would get higher(except 10 ofc) or lower scores but at the moment when i watched them i enjoyed them so much and thats why i gave them that score.There are periods of time when most anime i watch makes me feel better and more satisfied(i could be depressed,lonely or who knows what but during that time anime seems more enjoyable to me) and there are also periods of time when i watch just because i dont have anything better to do not because i want to so during those times i probably wont enjoy it as much as i normally would so score might be lower but honestly none of that matters,it doesnt say anything about who i am as a person.i love to rewatch anime who were good.when i new season comes out like BNHA i rewatch from the start and then watch new season.I've done that since season 2 and will still watch all season before the one currently airing and then binge watch it all.
I am who i am,was not born into this world to please others or pretend to be someone i'm not,those who are mature be they young or old will accept that fact
and if they like me and accept me for who i am then we can get along and be friends and those who dont like me can just move on,no one is forcing them to like me or force themselves to be my friends.No matter what you do or who you are in this world there will always be those who will like and those who will dislike and even hate your mindset or decisions.That is a fact and since i will be disliked no matter what i do then i will do what makes me feel better and what i consider to be right.Better to be hated for who you are then to be loved for who you are not.Those who will accept me,respect me and cherish me for who i am will be precious and irreplaceable to me.Sry everyone for making my comment this long but when i start to write something i consider important i tend to write to much but i dont consider any of my words here to be nonsense.Thank you
May 9, 2021 7:40 AM

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some people just like watching shows they enjoy
And as far as I am concerned everyone has a different way they rate things ~some see 5 as average others see 7 as, some rate things based on their enjoyment some on quality~ I personally rate most things a 6-->8 because I overall enjoy things. Someone with a lower mean score is just more critical ~which is fine, often they give good insight~ and someone with a higher mean score is probably just having fun ~good on them~

May 9, 2021 8:58 AM

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Glad I'm safe with my 0.00 mean score.
May 9, 2021 9:10 AM

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Feels a little weird why you care about the mean score of other people, but to each their own
May 9, 2021 9:14 AM

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snowykevin said:

damn this thread really upset a lot of people, but yeah I agree those people with 8+ means are the reason this site has pretty messed ratings honestly; if people used more lower tier scores there wouldn’t be generic shit in the top 50
like the fact Jujutsu Kaisen is top 30 still baffles me, at the end of the day though everyone has freedom to rate anime however they want so


This doesn't make sense. The site isn't going to be bad because people are enjoying anime consistently, it's going to be bad if you expect people to make decisions they don't want to make. Not to mention the wrong application of the meme, because OP is objectively sounding elitist.
May 9, 2021 9:15 AM

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Hating on people because of their rating system ain't nice, sure.

But if you only use 3-4 numbers in a 10-numbers scale, you're better off either just not rating at all because you're inflating the scores with your bias, or switching to anilist where you can choose between various scoring systems, including smiley faces.
May 9, 2021 9:16 AM

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Ringtomb said:
This tells me you have a standard and can determine good anime from bad anime. I don't even care what that standard is, it tells me more about you as a person even if you might hate an anime I love. I hate people who only hand out scores above a 5 like all anime is equally good.

A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down.

Edit: Yeah all these replies are exactly the response I expected to get, thank you for calling me a redditor cringe elitist edgelord cuck


nah fak off with that shit, do you know what he rating system is?
May 9, 2021 9:21 AM

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If its a bait then Fuck you
If youre serious about this then also Fuck you

People use weird ways to get popular on this website
Are you a e-Masochist or smth to enjoy being hated by so many people
May 9, 2021 9:25 AM

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snowykevin said:

damn this thread really upset a lot of people, but yeah I agree those people with 8+ means are the reason this site has pretty messed ratings honestly; if people used more lower tier scores there wouldn’t be generic shit in the top 50
like the fact Jujutsu Kaisen is top 30 still baffles me, at the end of the day though everyone has freedom to rate anime however they want so


This doesn't make sense. The site isn't going to be bad because people are enjoying anime consistently, it's going to be bad if you expect people to make decisions they don't want to make. Not to mention the wrong application of the meme, because OP is objectively sounding elitist.
I think something that should be taken into consideration is that we'd probably be surprised to know the amount of people who hand out ratings without giving them a second thought.

The phrase "Yeah it was fun, I guess. 7/10" is probably the most common thing that goes through your average MAL user's head when rating a show.

I've seen many people go through their lists days, months, even years after giving ratings and being so confused like "why did I give that score to that anime?!" which means that - and understandably so - most people don't think too much about it: "it's just a number", "my score by itself is insignificant", etc. so the most important thing to consider imo is what OP said:

"A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down."

This is important legitimate advice that people should take into consideration imo
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Yes, your mean score should be between 4.01 and 6.99, as long as your standard deviation of your distribution is below 2.00.

Because you should reserve the 1s, 2s, 9s and 10s.

Stupid people does not know how to use properly!

1s should be used for those anime that are unrespectable and 10s for your favorite(s) of all time (podium or number 1).
May 9, 2021 9:31 AM

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If you have a low mean score I think you should choose more wisely how you spend your time.
exactly, whats the point of watching something you dont like smh
May 9, 2021 9:38 AM

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Nostalgik said:

"A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down."

This is important legitimate advice that people should take into consideration imo


This is not a good piece of advice at all. If two shows have the same score, that just means they have the same score. Two shows can serve two complete purposes, with completely different quality levels, and get to have the same score because competition should not be a leading factor. Comparing just makes you act like a pseudo-elitist of sorts.
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My mean score is above 7 because I only watch anime which I feel like are going to entertain me and they mostly do, and why you care about mean score....
May 9, 2021 9:57 AM

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tl_dr said:
I think my average is kinda high because I only watch stuff that I think I will like and perceive as good (ofc with many exceptions). I usually don't start to watch stuff where I think I won't be interested in or it doesn't appeal to me, unless of course it's by recommendation, etc....

Exactly my thoughts. Back in the day, I used to spend hours on MAL looking through different genres to find an anime that I thought looked interesting and suitable according to my preference.
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Take a look at OP's profile, his ratings are hilarious.
May 9, 2021 10:21 AM

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Zodazzle said:
Nostalgik said:

"A good way to achieve this is to think of a score as a rating, but more importantly a ranking. If 2 shows have the same score, you are essentially saying that they are about the same level of quality. If not, bump one up or the other down."

This is important legitimate advice that people should take into consideration imo


This is not a good piece of advice at all. If two shows have the same score, that just means they have the same score. Two shows can serve two complete purposes, with completely different quality levels, and get to have the same score because competition should not be a leading factor. Comparing just makes you act like a pseudo-elitist of sorts.


"Comparing" sounds to me like an obvious thing to do considering we are slapping a number on a show to begin with.

A number in a scale is a superficial thing that serves to condense your personal evaluation of, in this case, a specific anime. Whether you think critically or not, or even if you rate by "enjoyment" value, by slapping different numbers on two different anime you are, by definition, stating that one is better than the other. Now, why you decided to put one above the other is the part that distinguishes each people's rating systems.

About the "competitive" part, if one does not wish to be "competitive", which I assume it just means they don't want to say that one thing is better than the other by their own metrics, it's possible to simply not use the system at all, if comparisons of any sort aren't something they're interested in.

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