Gate: Jieitai Kanochi nite, Kaku Tatakaeri Episode 3 Discussion

Unyilkdr said:
for everybody complain about edgy stuff, and blame A1. did everybody forgot that A1 doing shinsekai yori? they can do it, but they chose not to do it. and i think most of edgy thing in manga are useless, only bandit action in villagers scane are needed, (i am manga reader from first place since then). i think they do it for make this anime more watchable for wider audience. i enjoy it anime. if you don't like it, just stuck with manga. as simple as that.
i hope they also deleted useless edgy things again in trip to japan arc.

GSupernova said:
I did not pick up on any implied rape vibes at all in that scene, to be honest. Maybe I'm more daft than I think I am but yea. I drew the conclusion that she attacked the bandits because they were plotting to attack the Coda villagers whom she seems to have some rapport with(they refer to her as an oracle and she seems pretty concerned about them). It was a good enough explanation for me not to question it when it happened.

I guess the question is - does this departure from the source change her character enough to be a bad adaptation or is it acceptable considering the circumstances? I don't know because I haven't read the source, but I'd be interested to read the thoughts of those who have.

kataklism said:
in simple words,...

Vargr said:
Im not into fanservice, loli stuff, or fantasy in general.
But i have to be honest, i've grown to like this show, and i don't know why.
I think it's a lot better take on the matter than Outbreak Company was.
It might sounds dumb, but perhaps it is more "realistic".
Anyway, i like it, if it keeps up what it does, it's well worthy for a 8.

ckberserker said:
According the manga, Lelei should have silver hair. And now she has blue hair in the anime?!

http://m.mangafox.me/manga/gate_jietai_kare_no_chi_nite_kaku_tatakeri/v03/c023/22.html

Also, they really tuned down the violence and cut out the sex scenes.
I have a mixed feeling about this. I really like the serie, I hope more people can enjoy this serie. By cutting the violence and sex, a bigger audience can be reached. But I do think that the violence and the sex are necessarily to explain the context and cultural differences between special area and earth, espcially in the later part of the manga/novel. For that I am dissapointed in the anime studio.

robis798 said:
It seems I'm in the minority here and would actually prefer if they'd toned down the gore. Can't really avoid violence here, but with the kinda lighthearted mood the series has ( which I like ) the killing, gore shots feel a bit jarring to me. I dunno, not a fan of gore in the first place.

-ShadowClaw- said:


but it could have been a lot worse.....imagine they add all of those scenes but be censored as hell with black and white images of light or skipped over entirely....at the very least they are still adding a lot of the action and some blood and violence....there have been series which had a lot of worsen censoring done to them ...that ruined the show completely. Such as Terraformers.....Tokyo Ghoul....Prison school that is also airing right now...is being ruined with the censorship it is suffering...so i am saying things could be a lot worse...and look at all the above issues that a TV airing series had to endure.

ckberserker said:




I don't mind they toned down the gore and it is true that bad censorship will definitely ruin the show. But it's how they cutting out scenes/elements that I am worried about. I am not going to spoil, but at some point later in the story sex/rape become a key element to trigger a big event. If they cut it out, the whole story will not make any sense and will lose its impact on the audience.

-ShadowClaw- said:


I don't think they will cut those out..more like they would adapt the scenes...to make it being implied there is rape...but not direct...you know like showing the bed....in a distance....noises...with a a few skin shots...etc...it has been done before....but no point in worrying about it know...we will cross that line when it comes.

ckberserker said:

I don't mind they toned down the gore and it is true that bad censorship will definitely ruin the show. But it's how they cutting out scenes/elements that I am worried about. I am not going to spoil, but at some point later in the story sex/rape become a key element to trigger a big event. If they cut it out, the whole story will not make any sense and will lose its impact on the audience.

kataklism said:



in simple words, for her murdering isn't a sin, so technically if the bandits wanted to attack the village she shouldn't have cared, that's why there was rape as well in the manga, also, she gets sexually excited by the souls that die in battle, like, in full-scale war she'd basically get an orgasm, in the end, she does it more for personal reasons and work rather than for being a good person, her god/she is the god of war and death after all...

HELLSATAN said:
dude use spoiler tag.

Grey-Zone said:
^I'd be careful with that. It's quite possible that things that were not shown are being shown later...So no, "because it wasn't shown when the manga showed it" is not a valid excuse to throw around spoilers.

Takuan_Soho said:


While I would agree that it could be revealed later, if what is shown itself leads to a contradiction the revelation should not be condemned.

In this instance the original person who was curious why Rori killed the bandits but did not kill the JSDF is a legitimate question. Hoping that the animation will "eventually" explain it is, IMO, asking too much. A good adaption should have explained it before the question arose. I don't blame an observant viewer from asking "why" at this time. Nor would I blame the explanation. For me advancing on the plot is wrong, but when the story exceeds the plot, I cannot fault the expaliners.

Grey-Zone said:
You should seriously look up the definition of "contradiction". It has absolutely nothing to do with what you just said. Posting spoilers because the anime takes a different approach from another adaption is not "ok" just because you say so.

Takuan_Soho said:
I ardently disagree. Once the animation passes what was explained in the source material, one cannot claim that the person using the source material to explain what was shown is "spoiling". A good adaptation can leave questions open, but it should never contradict itself. In this case Rori's actions were not unexplainable, but rather conflicting, thus an explanation of the contradiction is not unwarranted.

vangoz said:
Finally all the fantasy girls have been introduced :)

But my favorite girl is still

bobzanny said:
It seems like people forget that this is an adaptation not a 1:1 carbon copy. I see no benefit for viewers pleasure just to know that there was 1 rape scene and talk about necrophilia. From what I've read the anime improves upon the source material.

Kelgair said:
heh.

salmon3669 said:
the LN is even worse than the manga in politics and gore. Especially right wing politics and anti-americanism and "Japan is the perfect society, it has done no wrong"

Jonesy974 said:
So we have a gorgeous, flirtatious, super strong, axe-wielding goth loli voiced by Taneda Risa?
Best girl status so much that it's not even fair to the competition.

Blankbite said:


Best gif in this thread.

Paulo27 said:
A-1 Pictures should know they have to be more edgy than this.

Grey-Zone said:
The dragon actually lost his arm. If you look at it, you see it is gone and the dragon has problems balancing him-/herself while flying away.

Granted, it's easy to miss it.