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May 17, 2016 9:57 AM
#1051
zaydgh123 said: Hmm that might be so, but how would that work around with the other routes, though? Would they start before or after them? Just sounds a bit confusing if it goes like that, though I suppose the dates doesn't quite matter for when the routes begin.Snappynator said: TheLittleRedHero said: exleader75 said: TheLittleRedHero said: Zyzyoro said: TheLittleRedHero said: sanata50lbsb said: TheLittleRedHero said: Then the second question and this is coming from a friend of mine from Facebook and MAL (since we talked on skype last night), if they're going to adapt Terra, how in the fuck are they going to be able to adapt the scene where you have to choose the obligatory bad ending to understand everything? I find this thing as well with him technically tricky as fuck. If everyone remembers the choosing about the "Key" once Kotarou sees her, you may get my point across. They can perhaps do something where at the moment before Kotarou decides not to attack, it can show a very brief flashback of the first timeline; and have Kotarou wonder what it is. He can say something like "for some reason, I just can't attack it" or something. My friend and I have read this and he said that it's not really a bad idea, but then at the other hand when you think about it, that really sounds too convinient in the writing aspect of the show. My friend said also that if that gets implanted, that will make the viewer ask. "Then why can't he attack it?" It just seems too convinient for me and for me it sounds kinda eh... double edge sword at my end. There's quite a lot of situations where we'd be asking ourselves, "how the hell will they adapt this?" Its all up to speculation for now. Tanaka Romeo (one of the original authors for Rewrite) is supervising the anime. Let's hope the scriptwriters can find ways to translate Visual Novel elements into a linear anime-format without losing too much context. Just to name a few situations where it will be tricky to adapt into anime-format: - The big reveal in Terra that leads to the "bad" end. - When you're presented with a seemingly infinite number of choices in Terra showing that you're being forced to pick a "too perfect" choice for "some reason" - All 5 routes completely contradict each other and cannot be merged together - There are an infinite timelines (maybe do a brief cut showing the theory's world lines) - Basically ALL of Moon and what the hell is really going on - The prologue I'm sure you guys can think of other situations too. In a sense for the 5 female routes I don't necessarily see a problem adapting them much, but its pretty easy to tell depending. Maybe they could try to do something in this regard. With the others its really tricky in a sense. :I I also want to know when is Kagari's route going to take place in the timeline. Is it first heroine route before Kotori's, the last after Akane's, or somewhere in the middle (that is if the 5 VN routes will even be adapted)? Because I expect "The End of the World" to be played somewhere early (second cour?) since it's uploaded online already (and people seem to say that it's a song for Kagari and Katorou). Like how much information will the new route introduce or how much will it spoil the other routes? If we are talking about the Kagari Route, I may assume either in the middle or after Akane's. Trying to use that route in the beginning of Kotori's Route seems rather pretty skeptical, and if it does actually spoil the other girls then I can't say it should be in the middle. Putting it in the middle may cause a little poorly handle execution on the chronological order of events. At the end they may add it after Akane, after Kagari's route ends, they can proceed to Moon. This is just a prediction but I think that the 6th route (Kagari's route) will most likely take place after November 13. it make more sense plot wise since (Terra spoilers) it will support the idea that Kotarou is naturally attracted to Kagari, even if he lost his memories |
May 17, 2016 10:11 AM
#1052
Snappynator said: zaydgh123 said: Hmm that might be so, but how would that work around with the other routes, though? Would they start before or after them? Just sounds a bit confusing if it goes like that, though I suppose the dates doesn't quite matter for when the routes begin.Snappynator said: TheLittleRedHero said: Just a wild guess, but I'm gonna assume that Moon may or may not be replaced by "Kagari's" route tbh. I could see it working, in it own ways...exleader75 said: TheLittleRedHero said: Zyzyoro said: TheLittleRedHero said: sanata50lbsb said: TheLittleRedHero said: Then the second question and this is coming from a friend of mine from Facebook and MAL (since we talked on skype last night), if they're going to adapt Terra, how in the fuck are they going to be able to adapt the scene where you have to choose the obligatory bad ending to understand everything? I find this thing as well with him technically tricky as fuck. If everyone remembers the choosing about the "Key" once Kotarou sees her, you may get my point across. They can perhaps do something where at the moment before Kotarou decides not to attack, it can show a very brief flashback of the first timeline; and have Kotarou wonder what it is. He can say something like "for some reason, I just can't attack it" or something. My friend and I have read this and he said that it's not really a bad idea, but then at the other hand when you think about it, that really sounds too convinient in the writing aspect of the show. My friend said also that if that gets implanted, that will make the viewer ask. "Then why can't he attack it?" It just seems too convinient for me and for me it sounds kinda eh... double edge sword at my end. There's quite a lot of situations where we'd be asking ourselves, "how the hell will they adapt this?" Its all up to speculation for now. Tanaka Romeo (one of the original authors for Rewrite) is supervising the anime. Let's hope the scriptwriters can find ways to translate Visual Novel elements into a linear anime-format without losing too much context. Just to name a few situations where it will be tricky to adapt into anime-format: - The big reveal in Terra that leads to the "bad" end. - When you're presented with a seemingly infinite number of choices in Terra showing that you're being forced to pick a "too perfect" choice for "some reason" - All 5 routes completely contradict each other and cannot be merged together - There are an infinite timelines (maybe do a brief cut showing the theory's world lines) - Basically ALL of Moon and what the hell is really going on - The prologue I'm sure you guys can think of other situations too. In a sense for the 5 female routes I don't necessarily see a problem adapting them much, but its pretty easy to tell depending. Maybe they could try to do something in this regard. With the others its really tricky in a sense. :I I also want to know when is Kagari's route going to take place in the timeline. Is it first heroine route before Kotori's, the last after Akane's, or somewhere in the middle (that is if the 5 VN routes will even be adapted)? Because I expect "The End of the World" to be played somewhere early (second cour?) since it's uploaded online already (and people seem to say that it's a song for Kagari and Katorou). Like how much information will the new route introduce or how much will it spoil the other routes? If we are talking about the Kagari Route, I may assume either in the middle or after Akane's. Trying to use that route in the beginning of Kotori's Route seems rather pretty skeptical, and if it does actually spoil the other girls then I can't say it should be in the middle. Putting it in the middle may cause a little poorly handle execution on the chronological order of events. At the end they may add it after Akane, after Kagari's route ends, they can proceed to Moon. This is just a prediction but I think that the 6th route (Kagari's route) will most likely take place after November 13. it make more sense plot wise since (Terra spoilers) it will support the idea that Kotarou is naturally attracted to Kagari, even if he lost his memories Rewrite is a story of repetition and trial, the characters face many obstacles and they did many times, Rewrite is a story of regret as well, (Moon spoilers) I think it would be good if the anime starts with common route, introduces and develops the characters well and introduce a little bit of mystery, go to the Kagari route, explain the supernatural elements and the organizations, go to Moon after the kagari route ends with a fucked up sad ending and make Kotarou kinda sad and greeting what he has done, he would walk up to kagari and see the theory and shit, and after he gets used to it a little bit he would start thinking about what he did wrong in the Kagari route, and then he will remember the heroines routes one by one, OR they could make the theory like some VR simulation that Kotarou can use to enter the heroines routes!! (that sounds kinda stupid xD) |
May 17, 2016 11:23 AM
#1053
Sorry if I missed something, but there's something bugging me. Why some people think there will be either ONLY Kagaris route or linear story with all heroins (a'la Clannad)? If there's a good chance for omnibus wouldn't it be like Higurashi, when after arc completion there's reset? Then it will be pretty easy to adapt it, wouldn't it? Of course there might be something I missed of misunderstood. Then please, correct me :D And little idea - wouldn't it be cool to start anime with the beginning of Moon (when Kotarou thinks about how he ended up with girls), just like ~5 first minutes of Moon, and then move into common route? What do you think? :P ...yay, first post :D |
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May 17, 2016 11:46 AM
#1054
wielblad said: Sorry if I missed something, but there's something bugging me. Why some people think there will be either ONLY Kagaris route or linear story with all heroins (a'la Clannad)? If there's a good chance for omnibus wouldn't it be like Higurashi, when after arc completion there's reset? Then it will be pretty easy to adapt it, wouldn't it? Of course there might be something I missed of misunderstood. Then please, correct me :D And little idea - wouldn't it be cool to start anime with the beginning of Moon (when Kotarou thinks about how he ended up with girls), just like ~5 first minutes of Moon, and then move into common route? What do you think? :P ...yay, first post :D lol welcome. To answer your question, we actually just have trust issues lol, we don't have a direct confirmation that the anime will use the omnibus format, we do want the anime to use the omnibus format though. Most people here think that it will be either omnibus format or Kagari route only, but no matter what we think and how we think the truth is one and we won't know that truth until we watch the damn thing lol This shit is driving me crazy CAN'T THEY JUST GIVE US A FUCKING CLEAR CLARIFICATION ALREADY DAMMIT |
May 17, 2016 11:47 AM
#1055
wielblad said: Because someone tweeted that they'll be doing a 6th route, and all of a sudden some people jumps the gun and thinks they won't bother adapting any of the heroine routes, even though that just seems really odd and likely isn't the case. And I think that was suggested before, and quite frankly, I like that idea! Having Kotarou looking at the moon, then comes that monologue of his from the start of the game.Sorry if I missed something, but there's something bugging me. Why some people think there will be either ONLY Kagaris route or linear story with all heroins (a'la Clannad)? If there's a good chance for omnibus wouldn't it be like Higurashi, when after arc completion there's reset? Then it will be pretty easy to adapt it, wouldn't it? Of course there might be something I missed of misunderstood. Then please, correct me :D And little idea - wouldn't it be cool to start anime with the beginning of Moon (when Kotarou thinks about how he ended up with girls), just like ~5 first minutes of Moon, and then move into common route? What do you think? :P ...yay, first post :D |
May 17, 2016 1:24 PM
#1056
Snappynator said: wielblad said: Because someone tweeted that they'll be doing a 6th route, and all of a sudden some people jumps the gun and thinks they won't bother adapting any of the heroine routes, even though that just seems really odd and likely isn't the case. And I think that was suggested before, and quite frankly, I like that idea! Having Kotarou looking at the moon, then comes that monologue of his from the start of the game.Sorry if I missed something, but there's something bugging me. Why some people think there will be either ONLY Kagaris route or linear story with all heroins (a'la Clannad)? If there's a good chance for omnibus wouldn't it be like Higurashi, when after arc completion there's reset? Then it will be pretty easy to adapt it, wouldn't it? Of course there might be something I missed of misunderstood. Then please, correct me :D And little idea - wouldn't it be cool to start anime with the beginning of Moon (when Kotarou thinks about how he ended up with girls), just like ~5 first minutes of Moon, and then move into common route? What do you think? :P ...yay, first post :D My own interpretation is that the beginning monologue of Rewrite took place in Moon. Because Kotarou speaks in the past tense as if he's already experienced everything. And we know that Kotarou in Moon is a convergence of all the previous timelines. So it would make sense why he would say things like "I was only wasting time" and "My friend Kotori once said.." Also, the beginning monologue has the same echo on Kotarou's voice as the start of Moon route. So that's why I think they could start with the monologue, show a brief sequence of Moon (without being too explicit), then start the common route. Because when he says, "I was only wasting time", he's probably referring to the common route. |
この世界には。。。秘密がある |
May 17, 2016 1:46 PM
#1057
Thanks guys for clarification! :P Well, I never thought that way about monologue. Really makes sense, honestly. Would love to see the show beginning that way :) |
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May 17, 2016 10:02 PM
#1058
Am I the only one who noticed, that Lucia's Gloves are shorter in the PV then in the VN? |
May 17, 2016 10:13 PM
#1059
Yuterion said: I can't believe you actually noticed that one detail LOL.Am I the only one who noticed, that Lucia's Gloves are shorter in the PV then in the VN? |
May 18, 2016 12:10 AM
#1060
Snappynator said: Yuterion said: I can't believe you actually noticed that one detail LOL.Am I the only one who noticed, that Lucia's Gloves are shorter in the PV then in the VN? I am not even sure if her Gloves are longer in her usual uniform than in the VN to be fair with you, unless we're counting the time where she wore her maid suit. |
May 18, 2016 3:43 AM
#1061
TheLittleRedHero said: Snappynator said: Yuterion said: Am I the only one who noticed, that Lucia's Gloves are shorter in the PV then in the VN? I am not even sure if her Gloves are longer in her usual uniform than in the VN to be fair with you, unless we're counting the time where she wore her maid suit. Who gives a shit about that small detail when that pic has a bigger flaw, LUCIA'S GLORIOUS OPPAI AREN'T AS BIG AS THEY WERE IN THE VN |
May 18, 2016 3:52 AM
#1062
^ ...... You guys ...... xD 93, 167cm... She is a G cup; Akane is E or at least D. But the uniform is meant to hide her bust anyway. If you look at the pictures of Rewrite+, in the new CG, her breasts look too small there too. Compare it with the bath scene, she should be around that size. By the way, the Rewrite+ tokuten are out. A few of them seem like new images, but some are the same pictures from the calendar from C89 I posted before. 〜〜 EDIT: Yeah, although too much perverted jokes and pants(u) shots will ruin the seriousness, I guess it's fine earlier on in the common route and maid part if we get Lucia's route. It's always fun to see Kotarou tease Lucia after all. I'm a bit disappointed too with the tokuten, as I wanted a new sexy Lucia one, but I wanted a tapestry (I think it's a tapestry since it's Getchu) of the Lucia&Shizuru since I got the calendar; it will make a nice add on for my Lucia and Rewrite collection. (Now I'm waiting for the Re:Zero store tokuten too. Though I may just order it now because knowing that masterpiece the Blu-rays will sell out fast...) 〜〜 EDIT 2: Although some say Rewrite isn't as popular as other Key works because of the shift, this isn't really true from my experience. Almost every anime fan and all VN players know of Rewrite in Japan and many have a good view of it. Japanese are expecting three or four cours, so I think the selling will depend on how well it goes. Although even if we get a relatively good adaptation, I still see it as having big competition from Re:Zero if WHITE FOX continue like the way they are doing. Charlotte was OK IMO, but bad for a Key work. It's the only work of Key that I didn't buy all the Blu-rays of, and I'm basically a kagikko (鍵っ子)... |
UsuzumiiroMay 18, 2016 5:05 AM
この妖怪め…何度背後に立とうが俺はこの川原から立ち退くつもりはない。逆に俺が貴様を追い払…なにその顔? ああ…前回失礼な事して、俺に睨まれたモンだから気に病んでるのか?心配御無用。男子高校生は傷つけられるのは慣れっこッス |
May 18, 2016 4:05 AM
#1063
Usuzumiiro said: ^ ...... You guys ...... xD 93, 167cm... She is a G cup; Akane is E or at least D. But the uniform is meant to hide her bust anyway. If you look at the pictures of Rewrite+, in the new CG, her breasts look too small there too. Compare it with the bath scene, she should be around that size. By the way, the Rewrite+ tokuten are out. A few of them seem like new images, but some are the same pictures from the calendar from C89 I posted before. I saw the new CG, I really wonder why they made her smaller, the C89 calendar pic had Lucia with her actual size. I just hope that the anime would do like some sudden jiggles and zoom ups for the oppai jokes xD Also I saw the Rewrite+ Toukuten, none of them have Kotarou... I want to see Kotarou drawn with Itaru's new style EDIT: two weeks left for July's Dengeki G issue, I wonder if they are going to give a new anime visual this time...... also a question for you guys, do you think that Rewrite will sell well? Charlotte sold very poorly for a Key show, I'm kinda worried about Rewrite. ~~ EDIT 2: yeah, if Rewrite gets 3-4 cours and adapts all the routes then I'm expecting 7-10k sales per vol, but if it becomes like Grisaia no Kajitsu then I will expect 5k or below |
Zayd__May 18, 2016 5:26 AM
May 18, 2016 9:24 AM
#1064
zaydgh123 said: also a question for you guys, do you think that Rewrite will sell well? Charlotte sold very poorly for a Key show, I'm kinda worried about Rewrite. ~~ EDIT 2: yeah, if Rewrite gets 3-4 cours and adapts all the routes then I'm expecting 7-10k sales per vol, but if it becomes like Grisaia no Kajitsu then I will expect 5k or below Well, Rewrite already has an established fanbase, but with no (direct) involvement from Maeda I am a bit worried to. Still hoping for 8-10k sales, that might be fair. |
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May 18, 2016 9:32 AM
#1065
Dovakiihn said: zaydgh123 said: also a question for you guys, do you think that Rewrite will sell well? Charlotte sold very poorly for a Key show, I'm kinda worried about Rewrite. ~~ EDIT 2: yeah, if Rewrite gets 3-4 cours and adapts all the routes then I'm expecting 7-10k sales per vol, but if it becomes like Grisaia no Kajitsu then I will expect 5k or below Well, Rewrite already has an established fanbase, but with no (direct) involvement from Maeda I am a bit worried to. Still hoping for 8-10k sales, that might be fair. Most Key fans love Romeo Tanaka's logical yet beautiful writing and Tanaka himself already have bunch of fans in the western anime community (mostly fans of Jinrui). if its a good anime that doesn't badmouth the game then I'm expecting it to have a decent popularity in west and a huge popularity in Japan (Rewrite is already huge in japan tho xD) |
May 18, 2016 9:44 AM
#1066
@zaydgh123 Well if they don't butcher any of the routes, I can see it selling really well. And you really shouldn't use Charlotte as a comparison for this...Rewrite already has an established fanbase and is great by itself, while Charlotte was an original (yeah yeah there is the Maeda fanbase, but really that can only carry it so far) and a rushed mess in the end. Ofc the same could potentially happen to Rewrite, but incase it doesn't become a rushed mess, I'm certain it'll sell really well. |
May 18, 2016 1:29 PM
#1067
Snappynator said: @zaydgh123 Well if they don't butcher any of the routes, I can see it selling really well. And you really shouldn't use Charlotte as a comparison for this...Rewrite already has an established fanbase and is great by itself, while Charlotte was an original (yeah yeah there is the Maeda fanbase, but really that can only carry it so far) and a rushed mess in the end. Ofc the same could potentially happen to Rewrite, but incase it doesn't become a rushed mess, I'm certain it'll sell really well. Even though last year's summer season the most sold product was Charlotte, it really wasn't really a competition anyways considering sales wise everything else were weak a lot. The only thing that got garbage sales to the living hell (sorry for my language) in that season was Rokka no Yuusha unfortunately. Btw I may be the only one who think Charlotte was fine on its own, but I can agree with Usuzumiiro, except for the BD part since I am poor as fuck of an individual, It's really a poor Key Work. The only thing that kinda ruined it for my end was basically the ending, which either could have been an entire season (I mean they could have cut some of the slice of life things without feeling too dragged, and add these things in the later half), or an entire second season (because there is no way in fucking hell they could cover this much in a second half either), because that just shows some potential a lot to go forward and flesh out in the end, but in the end it just rushed as hell ending. Which I gave it a 6 just because I really liked it a lot, just the ending rather ruined the experience for me, and plus they could have done some tweaks with the story. I still think Maeda is good, but I will state the truth, he's not good at originals, or even doing things in anime production alone from what I have noticed. And I am not sure how Rewrite will sell, but since it has as people already stated, an established fanbase in Japan, and some in the western audience, I think as well it could sell pretty well. But that just depends on how they can handle things and the episode counting. Also I will expect some criticism into the anime so there's no surprise from my end, because once the anime comes out prepare your heads and ears just in case if we have some critiques or wannabes in the anime production, just saying. |
May 19, 2016 3:11 AM
#1068
My favorite part of the PV ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) https://youtu.be/wGlBwW7f5HA |
May 19, 2016 4:05 AM
#1069
What, they even have a male in the anime? NO SHIT! Which wise guy's idea was to turn this into some Fujoshit? The second trailer for Rewrite (set to air this summer) was revealed earlier, and while reactions were generally tepid, some very vocal anime fans have expressed their displeasure that the anime will indeed feature a male protagonist. Masakazu Morita will voice Tennouji Kotarou, a high school student who gets caught in the affairs of various female characters while attempting to revive a school club. There are cries that the anime industry is endorsing “anti-moe propaganda” by allegedly shoehorning male characters into moe fanservice anime. [color=grey]The author of this Tweet apparently did not know that 8bit, not Kyoto Animation, is producing Rewrite. The outcry is partially understandable. In recent years, anime studios have been pushing for more equal representation of minorities and other genders in anime. Gone are the days of Lucky Star , where the entire cast was composed of high school girls. However, this trend had led to cries of tokenism, with Kirito from Sword Art Online being a standard example of a “Mary Jane” character. Critics claim that Kirito was a generic and token male character thrown into the anime to balance out its otherwise all-female cast. We sat down with one of these vocal opponents to male characters in anime in order to understand their point of view. “Kirito in Sword Art Online is a great example of the anti-moe agenda at work in anime today,” Jordan Linnegrin told Anime Maru. “If he was a girl, it would be a great show with awesome yuri pairing. That’s why the second season was better.” “Anime studios need to realize that we watch anime to fap to 2D cuties. So they can stop with nonsense like feminism and plot, and just give us good ol’ fashioned fap material like Vividred Operation.” Before leaving, Linnegrin confirmed to us that he will protest the alleged attack on moe by not watching Rewrite along with the rest of the anime community.[/quote] I'm quite impressed in my copy-pasta skill :) Re: Btw , where are the new CGs you speak of? I seem to have missed them somehow... And have Harvest Feasta always been this lewd? ( http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/rewrite/ ) |
Z-DanteMay 19, 2016 4:25 AM
May 19, 2016 5:36 AM
#1070
Z-Dante said: What, they even have a male in the anime? NO SHIT! Which wise guy's idea was to turn this into some Fujoshit? Tensho and Nonaka must really love Kotarou and his booty ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) also can't kotarou just rewrite himself to become a girl? |
May 19, 2016 10:32 AM
#1071
zaydgh123 said: Z-Dante said: What, they even have a male in the anime? NO SHIT! Which wise guy's idea was to turn this into some Fujoshit? Tensho and Nonaka must really love Kotarou and his booty ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) also can't kotarou just rewrite himself to become a girl? To Zayd: Who knows? |
May 19, 2016 10:55 AM
#1072
Z-Dante said: [/center]What, they even have a male in the anime? NO SHIT! Which wise guy's idea was to turn this into some Fujoshit? [spoiler][center] The second trailer for Rewrite (set to air this summer) was revealed earlier, and while reactions were generally tepid, some very vocal anime fans have expressed their displeasure that the anime will indeed feature a male protagonist. Masakazu Morita will voice Tennouji Kotarou, a high school student who gets caught in the affairs of various female characters while attempting to revive a school club. There are cries that the anime industry is endorsing “anti-moe propaganda” by allegedly shoehorning male characters into moe fanservice anime. [color=grey]The author of this Tweet apparently did not know that 8bit, not Kyoto Animation, is producing Rewrite. The outcry is partially understandable. In recent years, anime studios have been pushing for more equal representation of minorities and other genders in anime. Gone are the days of Lucky Star , where the entire cast was composed of high school girls. However, this trend had led to cries of tokenism, with Kirito from Sword Art Online being a standard example of a “Mary Jane” character. Critics claim that Kirito was a generic and token male character thrown into the anime to balance out its otherwise all-female cast. We sat down with one of these vocal opponents to male characters in anime in order to understand their point of view. “Kirito in Sword Art Online is a great example of the anti-moe agenda at work in anime today,” Jordan Linnegrin told Anime Maru. “If he was a girl, it would be a great show with awesome yuri pairing. That’s why the second season was better.” “Anime studios need to realize that we watch anime to fap to 2D cuties. So they can stop with nonsense like feminism and plot, and just give us good ol’ fashioned fap material like Vividred Operation.” Before leaving, Linnegrin confirmed to us that he will protest the alleged attack on moe by not watching Rewrite along with the rest of the anime community. I'm quite impressed in my copy-pasta skill :)[/spoiler] Re: Btw , where are the new CGs you speak of? I seem to have missed them somehow... And have Harvest Feasta always been this lewd? ( http://key.visualarts.gr.jp/rewrite/ ) [/quote] ------------------------------------------------------------------- My IQ just took a Swan Dive while reading that. I'm not too worried about how faithful they're going to be to the VN with the anime, because if I want to re-experience Rewrite the way I originally did, then I'll read the VN again. I thought the same way, too. Doesn't follow canon/source material = Bad/horrible anime. But I grew up, got older, and I'd like to think a bit wiser as well. And logic and common sense came about, haha. This is a mass media entertainment business, so of course, companies are going to make what sells, faithful/artistic creativity or not. They're different mediums to begin with as well, example: Manga and Anime. One consists of still frames, no sound, black/white coloring, and panel-by-panel storytelling. Anime is a visual show with animation (naturally) with music, sound, voice acting, and an interactive world at large. Not to mention the art brought to life self-evidently. There is no way that the story/series in question can be adapted into an exact xerox copy of the original in a different medium. Which is something that should be self-evident already. I'm not gonna say this is the majority either as there's only a 30% crossover of manga fans who watch the anime and anime fans who read the manga (source from an interview with the CEO of Kadokawa). So it's just the loudmouth minority doing what it does best. In the end though, the success rests on whether or not the show does well in its homeland, Japan. And it depends on whether or not the show has entertained them and/or they like what they're presented with. And that's not whether it follows canon/faithful to the source at all. It's about whether or not they like the "new" thing brought to them. (I mean, look at DBZ, DBGT, the original FMA, and even the DEEN F/SN anime, they were each half or all original and had filler and yet they sold high numbers because at the time the fans liked what they saw. Whereas DB Kai and FMA:B were extremely faithful to the source but didn't fare well at all in sales.) The monotheistic fanfare mindset towards faithfulness to the original source is dominantly a western thing. Something that you can just chalk up to ignorance and just plain stupidity. Wow, that quickly went into a rant, but to bring it on point. Whether the show follows the original source to the T doesn't matter to me. Whether it holds up well as entertainment or ends in the kind of happy ending I like in a product (which Rewrite originally does end on a hopeful happy note as per Key tradition). |
RaylenCypherMay 19, 2016 11:00 AM
May 19, 2016 10:51 PM
#1073
PeacefulWard said: Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: iNVivO said: TKotarou said: Draw Kagari & I will kiss your feet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I will be drawing tons of fanart when it airs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Draw the queen Akane! Seconding Kagari ( ͡篝 ͜ʖ ͡篝) Thirding Kagari ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Make her have tig biddies I may not be on iNVivO's level, but you might like my fanart of Kagari |
May 21, 2016 3:53 PM
#1074
Fuwanovel just said that "(UPDATE 05/21/2016 06:15 PM EST) VisualArts announces their plan to officially release Rewrite+ (Remember: Rewrite+ also contains harvest festa!)" and post this image up That means we are getting Rewrite+ offical translation with localization. |
LightBladeNova said: It makes me sad to know that still hardly anyone knows what a visual novel is, even in the anime community. |
May 21, 2016 3:57 PM
#1075
May 21, 2016 4:05 PM
#1076
Ishkoten said: This is pretty cool to hear actually. Nice to see we might get Rewrite+ earlier in the west than we may have expected~Fuwanovel just said that "(UPDATE 05/21/2016 06:15 PM EST) VisualArts announces their plan to officially release Rewrite+ (Remember: Rewrite+ also contains harvest festa!)" and post this image up That means we are getting Rewrite+ offical translation with localization. |
May 21, 2016 4:11 PM
#1077
Nice. Excited for both Angel Beats and Rewrite+ (and Harvest Festa). This should explain why the translation of Harvest Festa is taking forever. VisualArt's still hasn't release Little Busters, Tomoyo After, nor Harmonia yet. I just hope it won't take 200 years to release them. |
May 21, 2016 4:16 PM
#1078
exleader75 said: VisualArt's still hasn't release Little Busters, Tomoyo After, nor Harmonia yet. I just hope it won't take 200 years to release them. Yeah, but at least with Harmonia we know it's getting a simultaneous release, while other vn are still a mystery... Well, it's a different story that it's been already deleyed two times, lolz. |
May 21, 2016 7:36 PM
#1079
Imawsomandhot said: :O ....I love you.PeacefulWard said: Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: iNVivO said: TKotarou said: Draw Kagari & I will kiss your feet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I will be drawing tons of fanart when it airs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Draw the queen Akane! Seconding Kagari ( ͡篝 ͜ʖ ͡篝) Thirding Kagari ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Make her have tig biddies I may not be on iNVivO's level, but you might like my fanart of Kagari |
May 21, 2016 9:09 PM
#1080
Ixrec (who translated the Rewrite fan translation) confirms that he is involved with the release of Rewrite+ in the west: https://twitter.com/Ixrec/status/734184869530570753 |
May 21, 2016 9:15 PM
#1081
Zyzyoro said: Great news. Means we can expect a fast localization to the west?Ixrec (who translated the Rewrite fan translation) confirms that he is involved with the release of Rewrite+ in the west: https://twitter.com/Ixrec/status/734184869530570753 |
May 21, 2016 9:54 PM
#1082
Z-Dante said: Zyzyoro said: Great news. Means we can expect a fast localization to the west?Ixrec (who translated the Rewrite fan translation) confirms that he is involved with the release of Rewrite+ in the west: https://twitter.com/Ixrec/status/734184869530570753 "Tomoyo After" was already fully fan-translated and VisualArt's still doesn't have any news on that since it was announced last year. Rewrite+ will have to be look over and have all the edited/new scenes translated. Depending on how much Romeo has added, it could take a while to translate his writing into English. And the fandisc should be almost done from existing progress, but it's still not complete. I don't expect a release until next year or maybe 2018 (hope not). I think Tomoyo After is first because it's the shortest. Then Harmonia (if it's not delayed again). Then Little Busters PE. And then Rewrite+ and Harvest Festa. Angel Beats! 1st beat will be last since the translation is from scratch. |
exleader75May 21, 2016 10:02 PM
May 22, 2016 7:30 AM
#1083
Takahiro Baba on the upcoming Rewrite anime: "Most people do not appreciate the true meaning of Rewrite to this day. ... We can't afford to leave anime fans in the dark like that." This is why an additional route is being added to the anime not found in the visual novel. Source: a guy from Kazamatsuri that attended VisualArt's panel at Anime Central. (https://forum.kazamatsuri.org/t/baba-na-ga-and-orito-coming-to-anime-central/2558/15) |
May 22, 2016 7:41 AM
#1084
Zyzyoro said: So I guess this totally confirms that Require will have all 6 Routes in total. No more doubts in this matter anymore.Takahiro Baba on the upcoming Rewrite anime: "Most people do not appreciate the true meaning of Rewrite to this day. ... We can't afford to leave anime fans in the dark like that." This is why an additional route is being added to the anime not found in the visual novel. Now just to confirm the episode counts. "Most people do not appreciate the true meaning of Rewrite to this day. ... We can't afford to leave anime fans in the dark like that." Not sure what he meant by that. I think I got the theme of Rewrite , more or less |
May 22, 2016 8:33 AM
#1085
Z-Dante said: Zyzyoro said: So I guess this totally confirms that Require will have all 6 Routes in total. No more doubts in this matter anymore.Takahiro Baba on the upcoming Rewrite anime: "Most people do not appreciate the true meaning of Rewrite to this day. ... We can't afford to leave anime fans in the dark like that." This is why an additional route is being added to the anime not found in the visual novel. Now just to confirm the episode counts. "Most people do not appreciate the true meaning of Rewrite to this day. ... We can't afford to leave anime fans in the dark like that." Not sure what he meant by that. I think I got the theme of Rewrite , more or lessHm, to be fair, Romeo's no stranger to complicated, difficult to decipher ideas in his stuff. Cross Channel is full of subtle philosophical references and debates, all of which are never explicitly spoken about; only explored through concepts, symbolism, and allegory. |
May 22, 2016 8:40 AM
#1086
Z-Dante said: Perhaps you got it. Perhaps you didn't. Perhaps you got the wrong meaning of it. Perhaps you are one of the few who truly understood it. Or perhaps he is referring to the Japanese fans, since I don't know if he is aware of how big the fanbase is for Rewrite is in the West (?)Not sure what he meant by that. I think I got the theme of Rewrite , more or less |
May 22, 2016 9:11 AM
#1087
Isn't Rewrite just about environmental issues though???? /s |
May 22, 2016 9:26 AM
#1088
Zyzyoro said: Isn't Rewrite just about environmental issues though???? /s No. The whole point of Terra was to say that there's a lot more to why the world is fucked than just the environment; in fact, it pretty much concludes that no matter what happens we'll always end up ruining the environment and Kagari knew this. The point was more to do with human progress and evolution, whether it was worthwhile to allow humanity to keep going. |
May 22, 2016 9:27 AM
#1089
Senpai-senpai said: Imawsomandhot said: PeacefulWard said: Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: iNVivO said: TKotarou said: Draw Kagari & I will kiss your feet ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I will be drawing tons of fanart when it airs ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Draw the queen Akane! Seconding Kagari ( ͡篝 ͜ʖ ͡篝) Thirding Kagari ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Make her have tig biddies I may not be on iNVivO's level, but you might like my fanart of Kagari IT'S A KAGARI ヽ( ͡篝 ͜ʖ ͡篝)ノ seriously, this one's really good! Followed you on DA xD And also I played with Kotori's pic on the official site |
@inuvivo on twitter! |
May 22, 2016 9:56 AM
#1090
TakeMeInYourArmy said: Zyzyoro said: Isn't Rewrite just about environmental issues though???? /s No. The whole point of Terra was to say that there's a lot more to why the world is fucked than just the environment; in fact, it pretty much concludes that no matter what happens we'll always end up ruining the environment and Kagari knew this. The point was more to do with human progress and evolution, whether it was worthwhile to allow humanity to keep going. Yes of course. I was being sarcastic. Rewrite's themes are pretty grand. I've never really read anything quite like it. I was thinking some anime-viewers might drop Rewrite thinking its "just some anime about preaching environmental issues", which it absolutely isn't. I hope the anime keeps it interesting enough for anime-onlies up until the events of "November 13th". |
May 22, 2016 10:14 AM
#1091
I think one of the themes of Rewrite would be: "It is better to live a short but fulfilled and meaningful life rather than a long and painful lift" - Source : Terra |
May 22, 2016 10:15 AM
#1092
Rewrite's theme is "no matter how hard your journey to glory can be, just remember that you will get what you want at the end" and also "life has to continue, people don't deserve to perish but they deserve to get better" and the classic adult advice "nothing is easy but nothing is impossible" well its true that Rewrite seems like an "enviromental issue" thing from the outside but its more than that imo, its more close to the original Evangelion series, Evangelion was a show about "being loved and hurt by people is better than loneliness", Rewrite is kinda close to that. I think that the original route might give Moon and Terra more meaning and more impact, again I really hate the people who go like "this shit is too deep, don't watch it" if it was too simple to understand then it will be plain boring, I think with anime the visuals would help for the meaning to be simpler to understand. I just hope that the simplicity that they are talking about is a simplicity that is deeply understood in many ways instead of making the viewer go like "ohh yeah this thing is like that...okay..." Tl;dr It should convey the meaning in a better way but it shouldn't make it too obvious (I wrote this while listening to "scene shifts here" lol, I recommend you do so!) ~~ @iNVivO that Kotori looks better than the original anime design tbh |
Zayd__May 22, 2016 10:36 AM
May 22, 2016 10:32 AM
#1093
Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: Rewrite's theme is "no matter how hard your journey to glory can be, just remember that you will get what you want at the end" and also "life has to continue, people don't deserve to perish but they deserve to get better" and the classic adult advice "nothing is easy but nothing is impossible" well its true that Rewrite seems like an "enviromental issue" thing from the outside but its more than that imo, its more close to the original Evangelion series, Evangelion was a show about "being loved and hurt by people is better than loneliness", Rewrite is kinda close to that. I think that the original route might give Moon and Terra more meaning and more impact, again I really hate the people who go like "this shit is too deep, don't watch it" if it was too simple to understand then it will be plain boring, I think with anime the visuals would help for the meaning to be simpler to understand. I just hope that the simplicity that they are talking about is a simplicity that is deeply understood in many ways instead of making the viewer go like "ohh yeah this thing is like that...okay..." Tl;dr It should convey the meaning in a better way but it shouldn't make it too obvious (I wrote this while listening to "scene shifts here" lol, I recommend you do so!) ~~ @iNVivO that Kotori looks better than the original anime design tbh I completely agree with what you said, but i cant stop laughing at your typo :D on a serious note, I just hope they won't fuck up how deep the story is, yet make it approachable (and add more kagari scenes, because kagari is best girl マvマ). Maybe a (maybe slightly watered-down) version of Madoka Magica? Idk, haven't watched enough anime to start comparing things :P I think they should make the sad scene more key-ish if you know what I'm saying |
Zayd__May 22, 2016 10:38 AM
May 22, 2016 10:34 AM
#1094
lol @zaydgh123 Scene Shits Here I can clearly remember the track name was Scene Shifts Here Re: I always thought the best light hearted track of Rewrite was Sprouting |
May 22, 2016 10:36 AM
#1095
Z-Dante said: lol @zaydgh123 Scene Shits Here I can clearly remember the track name was Scene Shifts Here O_O brb killing myself |
May 22, 2016 10:40 AM
#1096
Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: Rewrite's theme is "no matter how hard your journey to glory can be, just remember that you will get what you want at the end" and also "life has to continue, people don't deserve to perish but they deserve to get better" and the classic adult advice "nothing is easy but nothing is impossible" well its true that Rewrite seems like an "enviromental issue" thing from the outside but its more than that imo, its more close to the original Evangelion series, Evangelion was a show about "being loved and hurt by people is better than loneliness", Rewrite is kinda close to that. I think that the original route might give Moon and Terra more meaning and more impact, again I really hate the people who go like "this shit is too deep, don't watch it" if it was too simple to understand then it will be plain boring, I think with anime the visuals would help for the meaning to be simpler to understand. I just hope that the simplicity that they are talking about is a simplicity that is deeply understood in many ways instead of making the viewer go like "ohh yeah this thing is like that...okay..." Tl;dr It should convey the meaning in a better way but it shouldn't make it too obvious (I wrote this while listening to "scene shits here" lol, I recommend you do so!) ~~ @iNVivO that Kotori looks better than the original anime design tbh I completely agree with what you said, but i cant stop laughing at your typo :D on a serious note, I just hope they won't fuck up how deep the story is, yet make it approachable (and add more kagari scenes, because kagari is best girl マvマ). Maybe a (maybe slightly watered-down) version of Madoka Magica? Idk, haven't watched enough anime to start comparing things :P I think they should make the sad scene more key-ish if you know what I'm saying I still wonder how they'll adapt that big event near the end of the shizuru route... "So we did meet again..." -credits roll with "that song" playing" "ooooOOOOOoooooooooOOOooooOOoo... te wo tsunaide..." -soul-crushing sadness ensues- |
May 22, 2016 10:48 AM
#1097
"Yami no Kanata e" playing at the end of Kotori's route is a MUST also notice how Baba said that a route has been "added" lets just hope.........that what he is saying.........means that we get all the routes |
May 22, 2016 10:55 AM
#1098
Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: "Yami no Kanata e" playing at the end of Kotori's route is a MUST also notice how Baba said that a route has been [b]"added"[b/] lets just hope.........that what he is saying.........means that we get all the routes Thing is, not only does that sentence heavily nuance (I'd pretty much say confirm) that all of the routes are added (The word additional = added to the already existing amount of things), it'd also be kind of hard to selectively choose which routes to adapt - many things in Rewrite connect, you'd have to start filling in gaps if you leave out routes it feels like everyone in the staff has his way of describing things, I'm sorry but I think that Romeo Tanaka sucks at explaining things, the dengeki interview left us more confused than excited if you know what I'm saying. |
Zayd__May 22, 2016 11:04 AM
May 22, 2016 11:00 AM
#1099
zaydgh123 said: Senpai-senpai said: zaydgh123 said: "Yami no Kanata e" playing at the end of Kotori's route is a MUST also notice how Baba said that a route has been [b]"added"[b/] lets just hope.........that what he is saying.........means that we get all the routes Thing is, not only does that sentence heavily nuance (I'd pretty much say confirm) that all of the routes are added (The word additional = added to the already existing amount of things), it'd also be kind of hard to selectively choose which routes to adapt - many things in Rewrite connect, you'd have to start filling in gaps if you leave out routes it feels like everyone in the staff has his way of describing things, I'm sorry but I think that Romoe Tanaka sucks at explaining things, the dengeki interview left us more confused than excited if you know what I'm saying. Romoe Tanaka *pfpft* |
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