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| Started watching this because of the interesting style but my god what great story telling and symbolism, amazingly done. What a sad story. |
| Okay, here are my two cents about the previous miscarriage theory. Hold on and bear with me, lol! I believe the theory that the pregnant mother had a previous miscarriage or abortion makes more sense and aligns with the "Reason" being Guilt. In the scene where she tells the young master that she is pregnant, the creepy hired thug comments, "You don't care who it is as long as he's rich, right?". This suggests that she may have previously become pregnant by someone she didn't love. This time, she fell in love and thought the young master loved her too, but it turned out that this was not true. The babies seem to embody the regret of not being born or being loved by the mothers they chose and loved. This parallels the mother's possible previous pregnancy, during which she felt guilt for not giving birth. In the end, her baby chooses her, just as the other babies did with their mothers. Now, she is determined to give birth to her baby, unwilling to experience regret again. The blood she spills could symbolize the ending of her first pregnancy due to a miscarriage. Additionally, the doll left next to her belly may serve as a reminder of the first baby. Ultimately, the guilt felt by both the babies and the pregnant mother is reconciled and forgiven through love. The love she expresses when she wishes she could be the mother to all of them highlights this reconciliation. The act of love is sufficient to send them off peacefully with a smile. :) Overall- This story is incredible, and the visual artwork is stunning. The first and second episode highlights a topic rarely discussed and incredibly tragic since I believe many women don't choose abortion but feel compelled to due to circumstances or events. These episodes effectively convey this feeling through symbolism and visual art.  |
BeautifulVioletDec 5, 2024 5:09 PM
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| These two episodes, with their abortion theme don't sit right with me. I do think you could say, that the owner of the inn forced the women to have abortions against their will and that's why it's evil. Also the Inn owner is seen punching a pretty big pregnancy belly of a woman. This could mean that the abortions were being done in a later trimester. The babies becoming Mononoke does imply tough, that the fetuses have souls. No, fetusus don't have conciousness and they don't look like babies. I love this series so much, but this misrepresentation of abortions does bother me. |
| I watched this arc once before, could not really process it, and moved on to other things. On second watch, I'm blown away. Disturbing, strange, gut-wrenching, beautiful in its own way. The sound really stands out. I don't really notice room tone (?), especially not in anime, and especially not different kinds of room tone cutting back and forth. The loud room-shaking moments and the grotesque screams, too. |
perseiiMar 29, 10:57 PM
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Abortion really is a terrible thing, and it's sad how accepted it has become in the west recently. Seeing media painting it in a bad light is refreshing in this day and age. How unfortunate is that.
I know this anime is about a decade old, but it's still recent enough to get under the skin of those who view the killing of babies as an acceptable practice.
I know this anime is about a decade old, but it's still recent enough to get under the skin of those who view the killing of babies as an acceptable practice.
| @ex_necross Well, no. It's bad in this case because it was forced. It implied that the old woman and the dark skinned man would force the prostitutes to get abortions, because pregnant women/mothers couldn't bring them money. They can't work, so they can't make them money. It's also juxtaposed to the maid who got pregnant by the son of a wealthy family. They were messing around and having good fun, until she was pregnant. Classism was a thing. A son marrying and impregnating a maid brings shame. That's why the old woman called her stupid. Because guys tell all sorts of lies about how they'll love women and take care of their child, but then abandon them and their baby. |
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