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Aug 15, 2016 2:28 PM
#101
What a fucking episode. Brilliant. I find Ruruka HELLA suspicious now. I haven't really disliked her that much in the past but for some reason, this episode she just pissed me off. What a weak bitch. Izayoi's death is awfully suspicious too because the knife in Seiko is missing and it's now in Izayoi's body. Ruruka. What. The. Fuck. You stupid fucking bitch. Also, the beginning where Kirigiri "died" I legit teared up because in the opening there said "10 left" and I kept crying and then I saw Munakata isn't even injured and like FUCK YES IT'S A DREAM. That ending though, Izuru my baby. (Please let Nagito awaken with his awesome luck) 5/5 |
Aug 15, 2016 2:32 PM
#102
Aug 15, 2016 2:33 PM
#103
taynis said: MonoReaper said: Damn you Kodaka you big fat lying troll. DR2 story ended in 2 he said. He will never write a what happens after Jabberwock story he said He trolled us all again. Damn you Kodaka i love you you bastard. Thanks for reading and sorry for my bad grammar^^. Dude, I'm so happy about this! Because if Kodaka wanted to end this ark with the DR2 cast just being "fine LOL" at the end it would be SO UNSATISFYING! And they have been setting Munakata as a man who is going to do anything to kill all the despair, so him wanting to kill the Renmants even if Naegi was proven Innocent is really on point. I'm really glad because it would feel like a plot hole for me, the DR2 cast needs closure as well! XD Yes, I hope that all of them are dead in final episode. If they survive, it's gonna been boring. |
Aug 15, 2016 2:41 PM
#104
that danganronpa ost just pumps you up freaking next ep hype |
Aug 15, 2016 2:46 PM
#105
i knew Miaya was gonna be dead cuz this is Monaca we're talking about, but ugh that's such a brutal death with her head twisted all the way back e.e that was hard to see >_< but lmaoooo Monaca's reaction at being called a Warrior of Hope. i died laughing a little bit at that :3 so that powder that Kyoko found on Izayoi, was it sugar? cuz if so, that could mean Ruruka killed him by like forcing him to eat since we've seen that she doesn't like it when people don't eat her sweets and him avoiding them could have easily been his forbidden action. could've stabbed em to cover it up. and ahhhhhhhhhhhh Byakuya, Toko, Komaru, AND Izuru/Hajime all in the last like 5 minutes. i was practically screaming at my screen. his was probably one of my fave episodes so far cuz it's setting up so much and the next episodes are gonna be soooooo hype. |
Aug 15, 2016 2:55 PM
#106
That was amazing! Seeing all the past characters made me really happy. Can't wait for more. |
Aug 15, 2016 2:55 PM
#107
Seriously an amazing episode for any Danganronpa fan, seeing all these characters again! Were only half way, good stuff! |
Aug 15, 2016 2:56 PM
#108
aliinetje said: Why did Monaca give them the idea to contact the outside world? It will only make things harder for her. And actually it's kind of logical that the killing is'nt being broadcasted... i was thinking that this whole thing was a way for Naegi to trust her enough that if it came down to it, Naegi would protect her e.g. against Munakata or the rest of Future Foundation and fight them, making it so the "humanity's last hopes" end up killing each other or something. that or she's maybe waiting for all of class 78 to come so she can kill them all since they were the ones who ended Junko? then again, Monaca is too genius and too complex for her to do something so simple as that. i feel she's prepping something big, just like she did in UDG. just tossing ideas out there but they probably wrong :p |
Aug 15, 2016 3:00 PM
#109
caio_ken said: This is the best episode from the series! Danganronpa Zetsubou and Mirai Hen for me are the best animes from this season. Yeah it feels really good to be a fan of this series, to outsiders this anime may look crazy, but for a fan it's super entertaining.These two animes are really the best possible animes they could make based on these games, couldn't ask for more, they could have been so much worse. |
Aug 15, 2016 3:06 PM
#110
This was an excellent episode in terms of pleasing the fans. -Togami makes his return and sets a series of moves to counter attack. -Togami also confirms that the real Gekkogahara is dead and deduces Monaca may be behind this at Towa City. -KOMARU!!! FUKAWA! Looks like they're gonna hunt down Monaca. -Ships are heading towards Jabberwock Island and looks like Izuru/Hajime is waiting for them. Are we gonna see what has become the Remnants of Despair and the ones who "died" are we gonna see them awake now? -Two people died this time, is there a 2nd killer or did the traitor decided 1 is not enough. I'm very pleased with this episode and I'm glad, in my opinion, topped Despair Arc's episode. The hype! |
Aug 15, 2016 3:08 PM
#111
mat619 said: OK after watched this episode i have few theory The mastermind behind the attack of future foundation HQ is probably Yukizome Chisa He found out about Munakata plan to attack Jabberwock island and kill her ex student. and then she finally set up plan to blow FF HQ to trap every branch head including Munakata inside the building. [/b] Sort of makes sense! Would explain why Munakata stabbed her dead body, because he figured it out. Because I had no idea what that was about. MightyM16 said: Why are you impatient? It's only the 6th episode Do you want the future arc to end already? LOL yeah. Every good detective story doesn't reveal the culprit too early. ;) |
Aug 15, 2016 3:45 PM
#112
Man every week I find it harder and harder to like Munakata. The guy's self righteousness when it comes to murdering others pisses me off to no extent. He has some coldly delivered bullshit "logic" to spout before slicing the throat of a man who saved his life. Secretly sending troops to the island was also a dick move beyond compare. They were cured of despair (probably) but now he's going to slaughter them all? THIS prick is talking about hope? He's a piece of shit. |
Aug 15, 2016 3:47 PM
#113
Hope vs despair who will come out on top and alive? Always loved how this series never gives you a clear account on who lives or dies just a big guessing game. So does nagi and kiri secretly like each other now? Because he had that dream about her dying and she seems to be pushing herself to find the perpetrator for him. |
Aug 15, 2016 3:52 PM
#114
Togami is cool and compose since danganronpa1(game not anime). Anime danganronpa1 make him look impetuous. |
Aug 15, 2016 3:57 PM
#115
Holly crap guys...the ending. The ending is taking me LONGEST TIME to try to comprehend. We all probably assumed that after sdr2, izuru retained some of his memories from the game and went back to being 'hinata'...but at this end of the episode.. In the end, that was not an appearance by Hinata.That was certainly...Izuru Kamakura, there is no doubt about it. No mistake.. We could've questioned it and ran in circles about it, but he even spoke and that is most definitely something that would come out of Izuru's mouth and, not hinata. This raises the possibility that Izuru acted like Hinata, even cut his HAIR like Hinata, in order to reassure Naegi, Kirigiri, and Togami to bsically get them off the island. It could've all been a part of his plan, and knowing Izuru this is something he would definitely be scheming. Holy crap...I feel like everything I thought I knew is a lie since this means the remnants of despair most likely all woke up evil again...brb still trying to process this even hours after watching the ep |
Aug 15, 2016 3:59 PM
#116
Kurisuki said: He might have gotten killed by accident, by many people say, but think, when you lay in his position, you get stabbed into the heart, which he got o-o I may suspect Ruruka, but that's just simple suspicious thoughts I have o-oThis ep was perfection, at least for me. I am so hyped for the next one. And about Izayoi, I don't think he got killed. There was blood under his right eye, like Bandai when he broke his NG code. Ruruka is surely suspicious. |
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Aug 15, 2016 4:03 PM
#117
CyberPunch said: caio_ken said: This is the best episode from the series! Danganronpa Zetsubou and Mirai Hen for me are the best animes from this season. Yeah it feels really good to be a fan of this series, to outsiders this anime may look crazy, but for a fan it's super entertaining.These two animes are really the best possible animes they could make based on these games, couldn't ask for more, they could have been so much worse. And to be an original anime based in the game and not an adaptation make the anime much better than the first season |
Aug 15, 2016 4:06 PM
#118
Danganronpa 3 Weekly Character Update: Kazuo Tengan - Deceased Cause of Death - Bleeding out, throat slit open Chisa Yukizome - Deceased Cause of Death - Stab wound to the heart Great Gozu - Deceased Cause of Death - Stab wound to the heart Daisaku Bandai - Deceased Cause of Death - Poisoned by NG Code Seiko Kimura - Deceased Cause of Death - Stab wound to the stomach Sonosuke Izayoi - Deceased Cause of Death - Stab wound to the heart/Possibly poisoned by NG Code (Unconfirmed) Miaya Gekkogahara - Deceased Cause of Death - Snapped neck Makoto Naegi - Active Current Situation - Roaming with Monaca and Asahina Aoi Asahina - Active Current Situation - Roaming with Naegi and Monaca Monaca Towa - Active Current Situation - Roaming with Naegi and Asahina Yasuhiro Hagakure - Active Current Situation - Outside Killing Game Kyoko Kirigiri - Active Current Situation - Investigating Izayoi's body with Kizakura and Ryota Koichi Kizakura - Active Current Situation - Investigating Izayoi's body with Kirigiri and Ryota Ryota Mitarai - Active Current Situation - Investigating Izayoi's body with Kirigiri and Kizakura Ruruka Ando - Active Current Situation - With Kirigiri, Kizakura and Ryota Kyosuke Munakata - Active Current Situation - Roaming, acquired Tengan's Chuusen(?) Juzo Sakakura - Active Current Situation - Unknown, last seen fighting Miaya/Monaca Byakuya Togami - Active Current Situation - En route to the Future Foundation building/or/Jabberwock Island Toko Fukawa - Active Current Situation - Going after Monaca with Komaru Komaru Naegi - Active Current Situation - Going after Monaca with Toko Izuru Kamakura/Hajime Hinata - Active Current Situation - Facing Peacekeepers at Jabberwock Island |
AzureAceOfficialAug 15, 2016 4:24 PM
Aug 15, 2016 4:37 PM
#119
Kirigiri50 said: This episode was meh 3/5 It was okay I am just impatient here my complains. Why Kirigiri haven t found traitors yet despite having total four people yet She hasn t found out who traitors is so what is her utimate detctive for If this isn t the function?! Second of all why kyosuke Munkata brooding does this is mean Juzo sakakura is the traitor and even he couldn t bring himself to kill him and where is Juzo he dissapear that episode. Well the good thing is Seeing Togami and Monaca towa being Clown and troll helping Naegi and Asahina despite being one the Big Bad I think. I am very impatient hope next episode reveal who traitor is? There are not enough clues, Kirigiri might be a Super Detective, but she can't do miracles if she doesn't have enough evidence. The traitor can pretty much kill however they like, and thanks to the fact that everyone is sleeping during that period, it's easy not to leave any evidence nor witnesses. I don't know about Juzo. We may see him next episode, and we still don't understand Munakata's plans. Be patient, we are only 6 episodes through. japaniMay said: OKAY, THAT WAS AWESOME. I'm glad it was Hajime there and not Izuru, but damn that red eye though Actually, I believe THAT IS Izuru. I don't recall Hinata expressing boredom to some things. My theory is that, after the Neo World Program shutdown, Hinata's and Izuru's personalities became one, and now he is both Hajime and Izuru at once. Either that, or he has double personalities, meaning that he sometimes is Hajime, and sometimes he is Izuru. Either way, the one in the end was totally Izuru...man, things are going to be chaotic next episode! |
Aug 15, 2016 4:37 PM
#120
This just keeps getting better and better! As soon as I saw the "10 survivors remaining" notification in the opening, I knew something was amiss. I completely lost it when I saw Kyoko's corpse in Makoto's dream, but felt a huge surge of relief once I saw Kyosuke's eye patch had mysteriously disappeared. I'm inclined to think that Kyosuke murdered Seiko, but the theory that Sonosuke Izayoi died via his forbidden action and Ruruka covered it up seems plausible, too. Switching topics a bit, I'm on pins and needles for the next episode! Hajime is my favorite of the Danganronpa protagonists, and getting the cast of all three games to converge together is like a dream come true! The one thing that could make this better would be if Nagito woke up to cause more mayhem in the name of Hope. That, and we could use a little more Monokuma. Also, a reminder for the people speculating about the state of Hajime/Izuru: The second-to-last line in Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair is part of his inner monologue, in which he says "I will keep on living as Hajime Hinata." Given the context, I seriously doubt that the man we saw looking out to sea was 100% Izuru. I'm more inclined to think he's something of an amalgam of the two. |
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Aug 15, 2016 4:37 PM
#121
Where do I even...? I spent the last couple of days worrying Mitarai was going to get some death flags this episode, but the recruiter made me realize he should be partly save next to Kyoko. We have a total of 3 corpses this time, and only one's death is certain how it happened. i am still said about Seiko... Finally Togami is getting involved and he is dragging Fukawa and Komaru along!~ Can't wait to see them more! Also we didn't see the boxer other than in a flashback where he wasn't being a jerk so it was a pretty nice episode (^ ^)b Kamukura at the end though... What happened there..? |
Aug 15, 2016 4:57 PM
#122
Future and Despair are blending so well right now. We've got Izuru/Hinata (why else would he cut his hair unless at least part of him is Hinata again?) about to take on the world, and we're also probably about to get a flashback look at someone who, for all the strings he pulls in this series, we don't know very much about (Izuru in the real world) as he was when the Tragedy was going down. And Komaru/Touko about to have round 2 with Monaca. Who wants to bet the other (probably reformed) Warriors of Hope are still hanging around Towa City too? |
Aug 15, 2016 5:10 PM
#123
caio_ken said: taynis said: MonoReaper said: Damn you Kodaka you big fat lying troll. DR2 story ended in 2 he said. He will never write a what happens after Jabberwock story he said He trolled us all again. Damn you Kodaka i love you you bastard. Thanks for reading and sorry for my bad grammar^^. Dude, I'm so happy about this! Because if Kodaka wanted to end this ark with the DR2 cast just being "fine LOL" at the end it would be SO UNSATISFYING! And they have been setting Munakata as a man who is going to do anything to kill all the despair, so him wanting to kill the Renmants even if Naegi was proven Innocent is really on point. I'm really glad because it would feel like a plot hole for me, the DR2 cast needs closure as well! XD Yes, I hope that all of them are dead in final episode. If they survive, it's gonna been boring. I want it to make sense (or as much sense we can get inside the DR universe). I do have some bias about the DR2 cast because I like them, so of course I would love to see all of them fine. But, if they are all fine because reasons or all dead because reasons it is going to be lame either way (to me at least) XD Izuru's talent is talent itself so I pretty sure he is going to be hard to kill. Add Kazuichi's machines and Akane's strength. Like I said, I want that to make sense, so if they are going down, make it believable at least, just killing them for the sake of shock would be boring too :S Phendrus said: Also, a reminder for the people speculating about the state of Hajime/Izuru: The second-to-last line in Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair is part of his inner monologue, in which he says "I will keep on living as Hajime Hinata." Given the context, I seriously doubt that the man we saw looking out to sea was 100% Izuru. I'm more inclined to think he's something of an amalgam of the two. This is what I believe too! He is not 100% Izuru or 100% Hajime. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:11 PM
#124
shiromii_ said: probably the latterUmm guys there's something I wanna ask. Last mirai ep the survivor counter was 13 and two died at that time. This episode's counter was 10. Did I miss something, like I forgot that there were actually three that died, or the blacksmith was already counted even though it wasn't revealed last ep, that it counts the survivors in the current time rather than survivors in the last ep. If it was the latter then it would make sense. |
No seriously. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:11 PM
#125
EarlCiel said: Holly crap guys...the ending. The ending is taking me LONGEST TIME to try to comprehend. We all probably assumed that after sdr2, izuru retained some of his memories from the game and went back to being 'hinata'...but at this end of the episode.. In the end, that was not an appearance by Hinata.That was certainly...Izuru Kamakura, there is no doubt about it. No mistake.. We could've questioned it and ran in circles about it, but he even spoke and that is most definitely something that would come out of Izuru's mouth and, not hinata. This raises the possibility that Izuru acted like Hinata, even cut his HAIR like Hinata, in order to reassure Naegi, Kirigiri, and Togami to bsically get them off the island. It could've all been a part of his plan, and knowing Izuru this is something he would definitely be scheming. Holy crap...I feel like everything I thought I knew is a lie since this means the remnants of despair most likely all woke up evil again...brb still trying to process this even hours after watching the ep ^^^ This... I feel so lied to... When I saw those eyes with that expression I got worried, but when I hear him speak it made me realize that there is a big chance that is not Hinata v.v I know some are saying that the personalities of Hinata and Izuru are mixed, but it doesn't seem like that is the case. I can't wait for next week's episode to see what is really going on at Jabberwock Islands!! |
Aug 15, 2016 5:18 PM
#126
Chanaynay said: Someone else said the real reason Tengan's sprite is different from the rest is because he was killed by neither the traitor nor his forbidden action, but by Munakata himselfAlso, this theory still could hold water: However it's still flimsy as Tengan is dead...and I don't really believe him as the traitor in the first place. I could see co-conspirator but not the direct attacker. I'm hoping it's not true because it means Asahina will die, and I honestly don't mind Juzo much anymore after Asahina schooled him with a pipe. But he could still be a major dick later so no definite claims on him yet. |
No seriously. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:19 PM
#127
taynis said: I want it to make sense (or as much sense we can get inside the DR universe)... Izuru's talent is talent itself so I pretty sure he is going to be hard to kill. Add Kazuichi's machines and Akane's strength. Like I said, I want that to make sense, so if they are going down, make it believable at least, just killing them for the sake of shock would be boring too :S Same. I would really like them to stay alive as well, but if they have to die or live I hope there is some meaning behind it. While it seems that it was Izuru and not Hinata that we saw at the end , there is still a small chance that they actually do remember what happened in the game and are rehabilitated. If that is the case it wouldn't really make sense they die just because of their despair days. Specially since the future foundation might get a new leader that is not Munakata... |
Aug 15, 2016 5:20 PM
#128
I'm really glad the quality of the story is getting better. It really feels like everything is coming together and a lot of fan service is given to players of all 3 games. Really nice komaru panty shot, what a way to reintroduce her. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:31 PM
#129
bcruise said: And Komaru/Touko about to have round 2 with Monaca. Who wants to bet the other (probably reformed) Warriors of Hope are still hanging around Towa City too? yeah me too. especially Jataro. i want to see his real face animated and i hope few survivor of hunting games join the fray. like also there's Leon badass cousin (her name is Kanon i believe?) or Hiroko Hagakure because like Byakuya said. Hiroko is more useful than her son ever was |
Aug 15, 2016 5:40 PM
#130
First, so there is a possibility that Ruruka "killed" Izayoi by feeding him candies and he got poisoned thanks to his NG code, but then stabbed him with the same knife that killed Seiko to cover it up. Question is, how did she know about the knife in the first place? Did she kill Seiko? Is she the traitor all along? Also when she wanted to go outside while Kirigiri was investigating Izayoi might have been from sheer shock, OR she didn't want Kirigiri to find out what actually happened. Second, Kizakura. Ekh. KoichiKizakura said: Saying weird things like that to Kirigiri only make him even shadier-_- I'm thinking that either:I don't talk much. But when I do, I keep saying the most suspicious things.
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No seriously. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:50 PM
#131
participant_no_5 said: Chanaynay said: Someone else said the real reason Tengan's sprite is different from the rest is because he was killed by neither the traitor nor his forbidden action, but by Munakata himselfAlso, this theory still could hold water: However it's still flimsy as Tengan is dead...and I don't really believe him as the traitor in the first place. I could see co-conspirator but not the direct attacker. I'm hoping it's not true because it means Asahina will die, and I honestly don't mind Juzo much anymore after Asahina schooled him with a pipe. But he could still be a major dick later so no definite claims on him yet. If this theory is true, 6 characters will survive. 6. 30% ! 30% 30% 30 fucking %. |
Aug 15, 2016 5:59 PM
#132
EarlCiel said: Holly crap guys...the ending. The ending is taking me LONGEST TIME to try to comprehend. We all probably assumed that after sdr2, izuru retained some of his memories from the game and went back to being 'hinata'...but at this end of the episode.. In the end, that was not an appearance by Hinata.That was certainly...Izuru Kamakura, there is no doubt about it. No mistake.. We could've questioned it and ran in circles about it, but he even spoke and that is most definitely something that would come out of Izuru's mouth and, not hinata. This raises the possibility that Izuru acted like Hinata, even cut his HAIR like Hinata, in order to reassure Naegi, Kirigiri, and Togami to bsically get them off the island. It could've all been a part of his plan, and knowing Izuru this is something he would definitely be scheming. Holy crap...I feel like everything I thought I knew is a lie since this means the remnants of despair most likely all woke up evil again...brb still trying to process this even hours after watching the ep Why would Izuru/Hinata lie in his own internal monologue (SDR2 epilogue) ? |
Aug 15, 2016 5:59 PM
#133
Why is Monaca being so cute? |
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Aug 15, 2016 6:14 PM
#134
MightyM16 said: Kirigiri50 said: This episode was meh 3/5 It was okay I am just impatient here my complains. Why Kirigiri haven t found traitors yet despite having total four people yet She hasn t found out who traitors is so what is her utimate detctive for If this isn t the function?! Second of all why kyosuke Munkata brooding does this is mean Juzo sakakura is the traitor and even he couldn t bring himself to kill him and where is Juzo he dissapear that episode. Well the good thing is Seeing Togami and Monaca towa being Clown and troll helping Naegi and Asahina despite being one the Big Bad I think. I am very impatient hope next episode reveal who traitor is? Why are you impatient? It's only the 6th episode Do you want the future arc to end already? I am Impatient because They were doing speeches that entire episode and why is Munakata Brooding despite sayinge he won t waver whatever Tengan said guess he was lying and Kirigiri still doesn t know traitor despite having over three dead bodies seems like stall plot at the moment and Sakakura dissapear from screentime completely In that episode Why is that while ever character have screentime. More question just not enough answers that all Its pretty okay though hope it more this unanswer question are answer because I am getting impatient still overall Its still good though series that is. |
DemonDarknightAug 15, 2016 6:17 PM
Aug 15, 2016 6:16 PM
#135
Aug 15, 2016 6:23 PM
#136
aliinetje said: Why did Monaca give them the idea to contact the outside world? It will only make things harder for her. And actually it's kind of logical that the killing is'nt being broadcasted... I think She wants to lure Togami,Fukuwa and Naegi sister to also trap them In final killing game maybe Its kind stupid for her to Help Naegi and Asahina I think Monaca got plan |
Aug 15, 2016 6:28 PM
#137
KamuiGavin said: Kirigiri50 said: This episode was meh 3/5 It was okay I am just impatient here my complains. Why Kirigiri haven t found traitors yet despite having total four people yet She hasn t found out who traitors is so what is her utimate detctive for If this isn t the function?! Second of all why kyosuke Munkata brooding does this is mean Juzo sakakura is the traitor and even he couldn t bring himself to kill him and where is Juzo he dissapear that episode. Well the good thing is Seeing Togami and Monaca towa being Clown and troll helping Naegi and Asahina despite being one the Big Bad I think. I am very impatient hope next episode reveal who traitor is? There are not enough clues, Kirigiri might be a Super Detective, but she can't do miracles if she doesn't have enough evidence. The traitor can pretty much kill however they like, and thanks to the fact that everyone is sleeping during that period, it's easy not to leave any evidence nor witnesses. I don't know about Juzo. We may see him next episode, and we still don't understand Munakata's plans. Be patient, we are only 6 episodes through. japaniMay said: OKAY, THAT WAS AWESOME. I'm glad it was Hajime there and not Izuru, but damn that red eye though Actually, I believe THAT IS Izuru. I don't recall Hinata expressing boredom to some things. My theory is that, after the Neo World Program shutdown, Hinata's and Izuru's personalities became one, and now he is both Hajime and Izuru at once. Either that, or he has double personalities, meaning that he sometimes is Hajime, and sometimes he is Izuru. Either way, the one in the end was totally Izuru...man, things are going to be chaotic next episode! You are Right I just being impatient here just need more this questions Answer thats all This leave me more curious than last week |
Aug 15, 2016 6:45 PM
#138
Well, I very thoroughly enjoyed that... But God dammit, Izayoi is dead... And God dammit Monoca! Why'd you have to go and kill actual Gekkougahara... I'm not going to lie. Based on the Asahina incident, I'm wanting to expect that one of these corpses isn't actually a corpse. Or at the least, I wanted to until Kirigiri started investigating them. I don't see her missing the mark there. It was fascinating to see Komaru, Touko and Togami again. I'm very interested in seeing what they're going to do... But on the other hand, I'm also extremely interested in what's happing over on Jabberwock Island. Izuru... Why are you there? I don't mind if you exist too, but... Hinata is still there, right? He was there for the epilogue, so... Please. There are many things I could say and repeat, but I'll just leave it at this... After being fired at by a helicopter... Yasuhiro is now catching some goddamn fish. I don't know whether to be impressed or stupefied. |
Aug 15, 2016 6:46 PM
#139
Xenys said: This episode was so amazing. Finally, everything is coming together. So, immediately I noticed the survivor count was 10 rather than 11, which is what it should have been, so I was on the lookout for who could have died. I nearly had a heart attack when Makoto's dream happened. Afterwards I noticed Izayoi's death does not resemble any of the other deaths. While he was stabbed in the chest, he was not suspended like the other three victims. Also, his murder weapon is the same weapon Seiko was stabbed with, and the weapon is gone when we see her body again. Either during the sleep or straight after they woke up, someone took that knife and killed Izayoi. I suspect Ruruka, but I'm not sure. So, Byakuya, Toko, and Komaru finally appeared, confirming the death of the real Miaya. While I expected it, I'm still sad. Sadder still, Munakata has sent fleets to kill the Remnants of Despair on Jabberwock Island. Also, Munakata has stolen the weapon Tengan was using. He also stabbed Chisa with a random sword, and I don't know why at all. I am incredibly hyped, since we're seeing everyone come together for the big finale. And most exciting of all, HAJIME IS BACK! The happiness of seeing him back is enough to overpower all the sadness of the rest of the episode, to be honest. My thoughts are exactly! Sorry if this already has been mentioned in a diff thread from previous episodes... I just wanted to add though is that Gozu's body and Chisa's are ALSO missing the knife! Bringing my thoughts to the idea the Killer uses the same knife for each killing. So as soon as everyone falls asleep the Killer goes to grab the knife from the last dead body and takes it to the next body. Thus more probability Izayoi's death, as you mentioned, isn't like the others. End of last episode we saw the knife in Seiko's body so whenever they began to awaken (probably Ruruka) took the knife from Seiko's body and stabbed Izayoi to make it look like it wasn't them. I agree with the person that mentioned that Ruruka was probably trying to feed Izayoi to wake him up and just killed him on accident. I'm still really suspicious of Chisa because I can't imagine what happened to her when her own precious students fell into despair. When Manukata stabbed Chisa's body and said "Goodbye Chisa" maybe he meant it more metaphorically as in "Goodbye to the Chisa I use to know" The only thing I don't understand is why would Monaka help Makoto speak to the outside?? Does she not know the future foundation already found Miaya's body? Otherwise, why let Makoto talk to Byakuya knowing he could reveal to them they found Miaya and that the person they are with is an imposter?? Unless Monaka does know they would find it and she is maybe trying to lure people on the outside to her? Also, are those boats heading towards Hinata, Munakata's boats that want to kill the SDR2 crew? Why wouldn't Munakata reveal to Makoto that he already knows where the remnants of despair are... It makes me think maybe he wants to kill Makoto for a different reason. Lastly, I think if those boats are Munakata's boats (sent there to kill them) then Hinata/Izuru is probably on the good side now and he just thinks it's boring/a pain to have to deal with them. Hinata/Izuru is probably gonna murder all of Mukata's men hahaha and team up with Byakuya. (Meaning he isn't back to being despair and wanting to kill, he's just trying to protect himself and his friends AKA self defense lol) *Please let the remnants of despair be out of coma's and on the good side* |
pinkalpacamaidAug 15, 2016 7:01 PM
Aug 15, 2016 6:48 PM
#140
HappyMN said: participant_no_5 said: Chanaynay said: Also, this theory still could hold water: However it's still flimsy as Tengan is dead...and I don't really believe him as the traitor in the first place. I could see co-conspirator but not the direct attacker. I'm hoping it's not true because it means Asahina will die, and I honestly don't mind Juzo much anymore after Asahina schooled him with a pipe. But he could still be a major dick later so no definite claims on him yet. If this theory is true, 6 characters will survive. 6. 30% ! 30% 30% 30 fucking %. Wait, what's weird about 30%? 6 survived in DR1, and only 5 survived DR2. Although I am honestly cool with the current cast all surviving. |
Aug 15, 2016 6:57 PM
#141
Holy shit snacks! caio_ken said: I love all the characters from the main cast but I hope that all of them are dead in the end or at last, arrested. After all, they're criminals who do terrible things. If they survived, it's gonna be very boring after all I don't like you. |
"My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
Aug 15, 2016 7:04 PM
#142
Chanaynay said: HappyMN said: participant_no_5 said: Chanaynay said: Someone else said the real reason Tengan's sprite is different from the rest is because he was killed by neither the traitor nor his forbidden action, but by Munakata himselfAlso, this theory still could hold water: However it's still flimsy as Tengan is dead...and I don't really believe him as the traitor in the first place. I could see co-conspirator but not the direct attacker. I'm hoping it's not true because it means Asahina will die, and I honestly don't mind Juzo much anymore after Asahina schooled him with a pipe. But he could still be a major dick later so no definite claims on him yet. If this theory is true, 6 characters will survive. 6. 30% ! 30% 30% 30 fucking %. Wait, what's weird about 30%? 6 survived in DR1, and only 5 survived DR2. Although I am honestly cool with the current cast all surviving. They were refering to Hagakure's ability to predict the future (he's 30% accurate). However, If I count the people in that image (they are 15), 30% would be 4,5 people, not 6. Or am I missing something? Anyway, I also believe that the prediction of Hagakure means that only 30% of those inside the building will survive, so it might be 4 or 5 people. |
Aug 15, 2016 7:16 PM
#143
KamuiGavin said: Kirigiri50 said: This episode was meh 3/5 It was okay I am just impatient here my complains. Why Kirigiri haven t found traitors yet despite having total four people yet She hasn t found out who traitors is so what is her utimate detctive for If this isn t the function?! Second of all why kyosuke Munkata brooding does this is mean Juzo sakakura is the traitor and even he couldn t bring himself to kill him and where is Juzo he dissapear that episode. Well the good thing is Seeing Togami and Monaca towa being Clown and troll helping Naegi and Asahina despite being one the Big Bad I think. I am very impatient hope next episode reveal who traitor is? There are not enough clues, Kirigiri might be a Super Detective, but she can't do miracles if she doesn't have enough evidence. The traitor can pretty much kill however they like, and thanks to the fact that everyone is sleeping during that period, it's easy not to leave any evidence nor witnesses. I don't know about Juzo. We may see him next episode, and we still don't understand Munakata's plans. Be patient, we are only 6 episodes through. japaniMay said: OKAY, THAT WAS AWESOME. I'm glad it was Hajime there and not Izuru, but damn that red eye though Actually, I believe THAT IS Izuru. I don't recall Hinata expressing boredom to some things. My theory is that, after the Neo World Program shutdown, Hinata's and Izuru's personalities became one, and now he is both Hajime and Izuru at once. Either that, or he has double personalities, meaning that he sometimes is Hajime, and sometimes he is Izuru. Either way, the one in the end was totally Izuru...man, things are going to be chaotic next episode! That's what I originally thought too, Hajime definitely wouldn't say anything like that either, though his appearance is different, so I'm guessing he's Hajime and Izuru merged together like you said. Still, I thought Izuru wasn't going to come back after what Hajime said at the end of the second game. |
Aug 15, 2016 7:26 PM
#144
Kirigiri50 said: This episode was meh 3/5 It was okay I am just impatient here my complains. Why Kirigiri haven t found traitors yet despite having total four people yet She hasn t found out who traitors is so what is her utimate detctive for If this isn t the function?! Second of all why kyosuke Munkata brooding does this is mean Juzo sakakura is the traitor and even he couldn t bring himself to kill him and where is Juzo he dissapear that episode. Well the good thing is Seeing Togami and Monaca towa being Clown and troll helping Naegi and Asahina despite being one the Big Bad I think. I am very impatient hope next episode reveal who traitor is? Well, we're only halfway through, so I highly doubt the traitor will be revealed anytime soon. Also this game is different from the others since there are no classroom trials, Kirigiri hasn't even met up with any of the others (outside her group) yet since the game started. A lot of the times she discovered the killer in the first game/anime is because she found holes in their alibi, but she can't do that now. |
Aug 15, 2016 7:28 PM
#145
Aug 15, 2016 7:41 PM
#146
BubblyHunter said: taynis said: I want it to make sense (or as much sense we can get inside the DR universe)... Izuru's talent is talent itself so I pretty sure he is going to be hard to kill. Add Kazuichi's machines and Akane's strength. Like I said, I want that to make sense, so if they are going down, make it believable at least, just killing them for the sake of shock would be boring too :S Same. I would really like them to stay alive as well, but if they have to die or live I hope there is some meaning behind it. While it seems that it was Izuru and not Hinata that we saw at the end , there is still a small chance that they actually do remember what happened in the game and are rehabilitated. If that is the case it wouldn't really make sense they die just because of their despair days. Specially since the future foundation might get a new leader that is not Munakata... I don't think that it's fair. They commited various crimes when in despair. People die by their hands, people are hurt because of them, they need to pay for this. Is the right thing. So, If Junko is alive and rehabilitated, you don't arrest her because of her crimes? Or kill her? taynis said: caio_ken said: taynis said: MonoReaper said: Damn you Kodaka you big fat lying troll. DR2 story ended in 2 he said. He will never write a what happens after Jabberwock story he said He trolled us all again. Damn you Kodaka i love you you bastard. Thanks for reading and sorry for my bad grammar^^. Dude, I'm so happy about this! Because if Kodaka wanted to end this ark with the DR2 cast just being "fine LOL" at the end it would be SO UNSATISFYING! And they have been setting Munakata as a man who is going to do anything to kill all the despair, so him wanting to kill the Renmants even if Naegi was proven Innocent is really on point. I'm really glad because it would feel like a plot hole for me, the DR2 cast needs closure as well! XD Yes, I hope that all of them are dead in final episode. If they survive, it's gonna been boring. I want it to make sense (or as much sense we can get inside the DR universe). I do have some bias about the DR2 cast because I like them, so of course I would love to see all of them fine. But, if they are all fine because reasons or all dead because reasons it is going to be lame either way (to me at least) XD Izuru's talent is talent itself so I pretty sure he is going to be hard to kill. Add Kazuichi's machines and Akane's strength. Like I said, I want that to make sense, so if they are going down, make it believable at least, just killing them for the sake of shock would be boring too :S Phendrus said: Also, a reminder for the people speculating about the state of Hajime/Izuru: The second-to-last line in Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair is part of his inner monologue, in which he says "I will keep on living as Hajime Hinata." Given the context, I seriously doubt that the man we saw looking out to sea was 100% Izuru. I'm more inclined to think he's something of an amalgam of the two. This is what I believe too! He is not 100% Izuru or 100% Hajime. Well, I love them as characters but I'm realistic, they commit crimes before and need to pay for this. It's the rule of the World and in Danganronpa is the same. They are good now? Yes, but the crimes continue to exist. :( |
Aug 15, 2016 7:44 PM
#147
Man what a stellar episode that brought all 3 games together to hype up this finale, i cannot wait until next week to see shit go down. I am a bit conflicted though, i really enjoyed how danganronpa 2 ended on a vague note as to what the characters fates were so having the anime tell us that hajime is indeed still izuru is leaving me a bit mixed inside. That said i think how they are bringing him into it with it tying into the main plot and one of the 2 antagonists (cause munakata is basically as much a main villain as monaca). also hell yeah my boy togami is back in the fray |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Aug 15, 2016 8:01 PM
#148
man half way through and i was worried at first how well this turn out but everything coming together is hype as fuck (still lacking on my despair girls knowledge ) but i was like hey i know those 2 and Monaca is a real jerk way the doc died was fucked up though |
Aug 15, 2016 8:25 PM
#149
MightyM16 said: EarlCiel said: Holly crap guys...the ending. The ending is taking me LONGEST TIME to try to comprehend. We all probably assumed that after sdr2, izuru retained some of his memories from the game and went back to being 'hinata'...but at this end of the episode.. In the end, that was not an appearance by Hinata.That was certainly...Izuru Kamakura, there is no doubt about it. No mistake.. We could've questioned it and ran in circles about it, but he even spoke and that is most definitely something that would come out of Izuru's mouth and, not hinata... Why would Izuru/Hinata lie in his own internal monologue (SDR2 epilogue) ? In the epilogue, Izuru did not lie in his own internal monologue. I went back to watch it, and these are his exact words: "There’s no such thing as an answered mystery…It’s doubtful whether or not things will even end well. The future isn’t a path, it’s like an endless sea. You can try to go anywhere…But it doesn’t mean you’ll get there. Even so, I will keep on living. I will keep on living as Hajime Hinata. What we can interpret from this monologue is that Izuru has resolved to go on living as Hinata, which would describe perhaps even his physical transformation. Now that I read it again, these words really do seem like they would come from Izuru's mouth. If you rewatch the epilogue, both Togami and Kirigiri sort of were hesitant about Hinata and leaving the remnants of despair on the island. With this episode, it really solidfies the fact that Izuru is not completely erased from existence after the game; that dark, twisted side still resides in him. Now, we are not completely sure of Izuru/Hinata's motives, but we can't assume that he's good just because he resolves to live as Hinata. Just like Munakata said: This is reality. Real life. Sure, people can learn to be happy, share happy memories in a game, but not once reality strikes: reality that you are not who you think you are. That people artificially stored your existence into the back of your mind, literally ruined and experimented on you. That fact doesn't go away when you wake up.Remember that Izuru strongly resents the world, people, and harbors deep hatred in him that didn't just disappear after getting out of the game. Literally, his options, his future, is open to anything: good or evil. One thing we do know, though: Izuru seems to have already predicted the ships coming to the island. It makes you question his motives: Why would he stay on the island knowing this would happen? Izuru is greatly talented + intelligent, this is why he always appears bored because he is extremely gifted in predicting, and basically everything. But, I think you do bring up a good point that we may have all forgotten. Sure, Hinata is not standing on the island in this episode, however Hinata IS in Izuru. Izuru now has a better idea after the game of the person he was before he was transformed into Izuru. Before, Hinata probably existed as a concept, but now his presence his more real to Izuru. This means that Hinata somehow does reside within Hinata. In SDR2, during the last trial, Junko saw Hinata's resolve and determination to make his own future...but Junko is VERY confused. She even questions whether there's something wrong with the game, because she sees Izuru before her, even though it is supposedly Hinata. They are one in the same. Izuru displays qualities of Hinata, and Hinata shares the hatred and resentment of Izuru, which creates this distorted person who is a combination of both. The fact that Izuru is still Hinata means that we cannot assume that Hinata has the same objectives as Izuru. |
EarlCielAug 15, 2016 8:29 PM
Aug 15, 2016 8:43 PM
#150
Thousand-Eyes said: Wow...I did not expect to see Byakuya, Toko, Komaru and Izuru all in this episode. I was thinking when they were referring to outside Freedom Fighters that they were going to keep it vague. I wonder what happened on Jabberwock Island. I'm also curious as to when exactly Miaya was murdered. There's so much mystery right now. It was a very interesting episode. Finally All Series Danganronpa appear can't wait for next week >.< |
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