Akame ga Kill! Chapter 72 Discussion

Code-Nova said:
The Author's been playing too much Tekken. I lol'd at Heihachi Mishima being Honest's teacher. The fighting style looks similar as well.

Code-Nova said:
The Author's been playing too much Tekken. I lol'd at Heihachi Mishima being Honest's teacher. The fighting style looks similar as well.

Illyricus said:
That guy was one of the Rakshasa Demons. One of of the two who Lubbock killed.

thebrentinator24 said:
Leone's death flags from the previous chapter really lessened whatever impact her death was supposed to have. For some reason her death felt so insignificant, like yeah she died, now let's casually move onto whatever Akame is doing, and seeing the ridiculous Gundam Teigu getting an upgrade (it's impossible to take that thing seriously anymore). There wasn't even the "Night Raid: ___ members remaining" thing that always shows up when one of them dies.

Darklight0303 said:
AFter all she's not the Author's precious pet like Mine

KetsuRen said:


I don't think she is authors pet. My theory is that Tatsumi will die (obviously. Can't count the amount of death flags) and when Mine recovers and finds out she'll kill herself. Wouldn't that be a fantastic ending, final page is just a faded image of Mine's corpse with Akame standing over her.

Okami_doge said:
may be Leone is gonna pop up suddenly and kill the Prime Minister before dying again? (at least she wasnt raped)....
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nah, i dont think the manga will be much different from the anime

Okami_doge said:
may be Leone is gonna pop up suddenly and kill the Prime Minister before dying again? (at least she wasnt raped)....
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nah, i dont think the manga will be much different from the anime

manbot95 said:


Her guts were spilling she is dead for good the author is giving a Simlar ending to the anime but with twists.

Kurome will be killed Esdeath in front of Akame which causes Akame to lose her humanity and go ghoul.

Wave will join Tatsumi in fighting shirkotazer form2 and one of them will die (maybe both)

Inori_is_love said:
alright even I have to finally admit it.

This has been a complete trainwreck ever since Lubbock died. Leone will do something before she dies probably, even though her guts were spilling out. Wave is coming back but I have mixed feelings about that, well he is my favourite character so it might be a good thing. It's a real shame though how downhill this went it was originally one of my favorite manga/anime.

ShanaFlame said:
It was only a matter of time before they kill of Leone and it's a tough way to go. The prime minister's teigu is just OP...it's literally a god weapon if used properly.

ixarising said:


It needs a week to regenerate though.

MonsterKiller said:
This manga is garbage just like the anime.

MonsterKiller said:
This manga is garbage just like the anime.

Darklight0303 said:


How will she do anything when her Teigu was DESTROYED? With her Teigu Destroyed her regeneration is gone too. She's finished.

RemixX said:
Idk why the author and whoever else is in charge of the story would go the same route as the anime... I think it's been almost two years since the anime aired, that's a lot of time to think of a better death scene. Oh well it's AgK!, shouldn't expect much lol the manga has been pretty bad from the very start

Inori_is_love said:

Nah she'll still do something otherwise her death would be crappy and almost devoid of meaning. She was the first member of Nightraid to meet Tatsumi so I'd be incredibly disappointed for her to die just so Tatsumi or Akame can see her dead body and decide to go all out or something. Anyway we didn't see her dead and she's a member of Night Raid so that should be the obvious pointer that she's still alive.

Darklight0303 said:


Her GUTS ARE SPILLING OUT WHILE SHE'S LITERALLY AN AVERAGE HUMAN. She is dead. Are you delusional?

TaBleT said:
I only care about tatsumiXmine. I was so dissapointed in anime, I hope manga will be better about them

Darklight0303 said:


Hell no it won't. Tatsumi is fucked and Mine should have died

TaBleT said:

I know but this time mine didnt died so there is hope :( I am not too hopeful about it but still... Maybe...Just maybe.

Darklight0303 said:



Tatsumi is already using his last charge of his Teigu before it absorbs him. It's over. The most you can hope for is Mine waking up from her coma only to see everyone she knew AS GRAVESTONES IN A GRAVEYARD

TaBleT said:

I saw worst conditions in many other manga
Like I said, I am not very hopeful, but I didnt gave up yet. I usually dont like shipping, but when I saw everyone I like died in anime, I just want a happy ending for those two :(

Jvd2000 said:
What did the author do to my poor Suzuka :(

She outlived her 3 demon collegue's, Wilde Hunt, almost all off the Jeagers (only Esdeath remains)... And then to be tossed aside meaningless like this..

Will she survive her second burial?

Jvd2000 said:
Who cares about Leone.. What did the author do to my poor Suzuka :(

She outlived her 3 demon collegue's, Wilde Hunt, almost all off the Jeagers (only Esdeath remains)... And then to be tossed aside meaningless like this..

Will she survive her second burial?

AmMar-Sama said:
Nooooooooo Leone !!! ;__;
Is it just me or her death here felt so damn insignificant and pointless? The anime did a much better job with it. This is probably the worst death in the entire manga. At least make her last moments a bit cool dammit :/
The fact that the prime minister was able to fight on par with her is just plain ridiculous. It's been pointed out countless of times before that it is impossible to survive a fight against a teigu unless you use a teigu yourself. And no, he shouldn't be able to fight evenly against a teigu no matter how much he trains. The author literally shit on the rules he put for himself for no reason and made Leone's death even more pointless as a result.

I'm also amazed at how Kurome and Wave became part of the Yeagers if they are incompetent at the basics such as detecting presences in their surroundings. They should've realized that they were surrounded by those strange beasts ages ago.
Reminder that Wave used two teigus simultaneously. That should've killed him or at least result in a some dangerous side effect as we were told but nope. He's alive and kicking and in perfect health at that.

Meh, seems that the author isn't even trying anymore..

AmMar-Sama said:


The Rakshasha Demons are known for being very strong, yes, but it was never mentioned that they did actually beat a teigu user.
Lubbock fought against two of them but still won. That alone should be good enough as an evidence to tell the readers that fighting a teigu unarmed is suicide no matter how much you train. Heck, I'm sure one of the characters (probabily Najenda) pointed that out at some point.

So yeah, training with demons or whatever shouldn't make such a big difference.

AmMar-Sama said:


Eeeeh .. seriously? So someone mentioned that they did actually beat teigu users before?! Seems like I missed that ...

Still, Honest defeating Lionelle completely bare handed is still too much for me to take. The difference in strength between him and Leone is just insane.
He's too overpowered..
There should be limits to what a trained body can do against a teigu.

AmMar-Sama said:
Eeeeh .. seriously? So someone mentioned that they did actually beat teigu users before?! Seems like I missed that ...

Still, Honest defeating Lionelle completely bare handed is still too much for me to take. The difference in strength between him and Leone is just insane.
He's too overpowered..
There should be limits to what a trained body can do against a teigu.

Illyricus said:
Honestly (no pun intended) the Prime Minister suddenly having that strenght looks like a big asspull, since there are any scene when it was hinted he has some type of strenght or something. The anime made me think he would have a Teigu, but not that he would have superhuman strenght.

AmMar-Sama said:


Well, you've got a point there.
However obtaining skills that can make teigu users seem (almost) completely powerless against him feels like a huge asspull nonetheless. I can't take that seriously at all.


Teigus were always portrayed as these amazing and terrifying weapons that are insanely strong, so I can't sit back and just go "oh okay" when a normal person overpowers one so easily even it you tell me he trained a lot. Like, I get that he might be even stronger than the Rakshaha Demons, but really? Overpowering a teigu THAT easily?
The Rakshaha Demons claimed that they did beat five teigu users before, but since we weren't give any details regarding that, it would be logical to assume that they struggled at least a little in doing so. I'm sure they did. It wouldn't make any sense otherwise. Or maybe they attacked each one of the 5 teigu users together as a team to make sure they would win? We don't know.

Anyway, the bodies of human beings have limits. Getting a gunshot in your body would still kill you (or AT LEAST cause you a serious damage) no matter how strong you are, for example.
It goes without saying that a teigu is far stronger than your average gun so overpowering one in a fight *bare-handedly* AND come out of it practically unharmed should be absolutely impossible no matter how you look at it.

There are plenty of other realistic and interesting ways to make it seem that the Prime Minister made sure he stayed on guard and prepared for the worst, but that was just... dumb.

AmMar-Sama said:


I never said Leone was guaranteed to win just because she has a teigu. I am saying that the prime minister should have had a hard time fighting against Lionelle without using a teigu himself. All the fights you used as examples were somewhat reasonable and made sense. Whereas Honest and Leone's fight doesn't. Yes, I get that teigus aren't absolute, but COMPLETELY overpowering one with strength alone - without using your brain nor any dirty tricks - should be impossible. He should've been severely injured at the very least but nope. He seemed perfectly fine afterwards.
His training isn't really a good reason for that as I explained before.

I believe I made this clear, I don't understand how you missed my point.

AmMar-Sama said:
I don't really agree with your logic .. ?

You said it yourself. Sten "withstood" Cross Tail, he did not "surpass" it. You cannot possibility surpass a teigu with your body's brute force alone. Dedicating a lot of his time to training did not make his body stronger than the teigu. His full power punches never reached Lubbock because they were blocked by Cross Tail. Moreover, the teigu was able to wound him.

And in Honest case? He completely surpassed the teigu. His body was stronger than it. Heck, Lionelle's attacks had no effect whatsoever in him. They didn't even wound him. The kick in his stomach was the only thing that affected him, and that only happened because he was careless.

Even if we assume that Honest is stronger than Sten, surpassing a teigu with your body strength alone is still out of question. He's a normal person, normal humans have limits.

Do you see the huge difference between the two? How is any of that justifiable? It doesn't make sense.

AmMar-Sama said:


Eeeh? Esdeath was able temporary incapacitate Leone without using her teigu as well? Are you serious? I don't remember that happening at all. Perhaps it didn't leave an impression because of how the characters in the manga kept hyping her strength since the very beginning? There was a time where they said hundreds (or thousands?) of soldiers AND at least ten teigu users are needed to kill her. I think that was when I stopped using logic to justify her insane strength lmao.

Comparing Esdeath's power to other characters in agk is blasphemy anyway because she is literally a monster lol. But oh well, if she did it there's no reason Honest can't I guess .. it's just that I was really baffled and surprised when he beat a teigu user with no effort at all since I couldn't remember anyone doing the same before.. that's why I said it makes no sense. Because it doesn't, really. I tried to explain this to the best of my ability but it seems like you still don't get it. I understand that not all teigu have absolute abilites/power like akame's One Hit Kill, but still.. there should be a limit to what a human can do against a teigu unarmed regardless of its type. Teigus are made from very high class danger beasts, which should be impossible to kill without using traps and dirty tricks such as exploiting their weaknessess or aiming for their vitals staringt away. But.. a human overpowering a high class danger beast by fighting fair and square with it in and hand-to-hand combat? Nah, not happening. Fighting a teigu user is somewhat similar to that.
The fact that it is possible to achieve strength and durability that makes it possible for a mere human to overpower a teigu unarmed is stupid in the first place. It's not that the humans in this story are stronger than your average ones or anything, after all. So it makes no sense logically .. at all. How is this point so difficult to grasp?

Meh, whatever .. trying to apply logic to this manga was wrong anyway.

AmMar-Sama said:


I see.. you're right.
Thanks for clarifying..

FrozenRemains said:
If anything happens to leone..

im gonna be mad