| Suicide: When no one around you ever say to you that they like you or value your existence in anyway. You feel and knows your existence yourself means nothing. It can be quite logical without a terminal illness. If there is no meaning to exist, why bother having to face the daily problems everyday? Getting bullied in school, getting harassed at work, earning borderline minimum wage, no job security, the place you rent is loud and you can't sleep well at night. When negative things are just stacked for someone, and that can be quite common due to the vicious cycle of depression, it can seem quite logical to just let it all go away. |
TachiiJun 24, 2015 9:19 AM
| "You could have it worse. You could be ON FIRE right now! SO BE GRATEFUL YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCK!" Eh, I've heard this cliche many times and I know it is something hypocrites say to feel better about themselves since they know there is nothing to be done. |
| i keep going because hope dies last and theres hope that some day my future gf is going to notice me |
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incisorr said: i keep going because hope dies last and theres hope that some day my future gf is going to notice me It will happen someday. Just make sure you notice her too. |
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| When I was suffering from a 3 year long bout of depression and loss of motivation, I had pretty much hit rock bottom. I was terrible at school, didn't do homework, missed 2-3 days every week, no social interaction, and was doing drugs as an escape. What got me out was when I forced myself to stop doing drugs. I was amazed that I managed to do something like that, and all on my own as well. I realized that I could do anything If I really put in the effort for it. That gave me the jump-start that I needed to get my life back together. :) |
mecharobot said: whats wrong with feeling better about themselves? whats hypocritical?"You could have it worse. You could be ON FIRE right now! SO BE GRATEFUL YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCK!" Eh, I've heard this cliche many times and I know it is something hypocrites say to feel better about themselves since they know there is nothing to be done. |
| one of my primal fears in life is becoming aimlessly static. so i keep going because i dont have any other choice, i need to make the best of my situation, otherwise, it would be just a giant mass of human waste. |
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| life is pain anyone who says differently is selling something basically i try to be the best version of me i can muster, and take things one day at a time, living at my own pace. i'm my own worst enemy and that's pretty encouraging tbh - it just means nothing else can take me down quite like i can + i have 100% success in getting through bad days/months/years so far, so i know i'll make it even if i don't feel like i can at times. and then i'll laugh when i remember that i've felt like that a lot, but the linden tree outside smells amazing, the stupid seagulls are cackling overhead and my cupboards are stocked with delicious coffee; add a cold shower and i'll be feeling like it's great to be alive and reading bad poetry while smoking a crappy brand of cigarettes with my feet up on a surface they shouldn't be on, in leather slippers (that cost more than my entire outfit on most days tbh) but are frankly one of my best purchases to date lmao life is what you make of it; taking yourself too seriously is a big no-no in my experience lol  |
leukocyteofdoomJun 24, 2015 12:32 PM
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mecharobot said: "You could have it worse. You could be ON FIRE right now! SO BE GRATEFUL YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCK!" Eh, I've heard this cliche many times and I know it is something hypocrites say to feel better about themselves since they know there is nothing to be done. Yes Ive heard this a lot too. It seems mainly used by those who don't know what they're talking about or have had a pretty easy going life in the first place. Its the main go to argument but its not to make people feel better its to make those saying it feel superior as if they have the advice, they have the life experience, they were the tough ones and they're picking you up. giving you the advice you need as if they know better than you but im not pointing fingers but you can always spot the types. dakotasapphire said: If you don't die you could be put in jail. It's a crime. Not any longer. By the late 1980s, thirty of the fifty states had no laws against suicide or suicide attempts but every state had laws declaring it to be a felony to aid, advise or encourage another person to commit suicide. By the early 1990s only two states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification. codephat said: One of my best friends periodically struggles with depression, even though he is very well off (from a wealthy family, parents love and appreciate him, etc.). When I tried to tell him how blessed he was, it just made him feel ungrateful and feel more depressed. You have no idea how it works do you. You think depression comes from not understanding how great your life is compared to others less fortunate? you think it has anything to do with money, appreciation. All these superficial things that seem important. You know the type of damage trying to hammer into a depressive that they should be grateful for what they have. They're depressed, they have an illness that affects how they think, feel and process information. They don't have the same outlook on life a normal person does. How many people have to be told depression isn't feeling sad its an illness, do you know depression has visible signs on the brain and can be genetic and run in a certain side of the family. You can be the wealthiest person in the world and end up killing yourself as others have. When you think from a logical superficial outside view point it can seem unimaginable someone so well off would be depressed. You want to know what I did when I was depressed. I gave a way a £1000 for no reason. Because money had no meaning, it was paper to me. I could have burned 10 grand, a million. If only Robin Williams had know how rich he was before taking his own life. I'm sure if someone had told him to be grateful he wouldn't have died. Telling someone they should be grateful when they are depressed. "When I tried to tell him how blessed he was" Jesus..Were you trying to kill your friend. |
SpooksJun 24, 2015 1:15 PM
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Tachii said: mecharobot said: whats wrong with feeling better about themselves? whats hypocritical?"You could have it worse. You could be ON FIRE right now! SO BE GRATEFUL YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCK!" Eh, I've heard this cliche many times and I know it is something hypocrites say to feel better about themselves since they know there is nothing to be done. What is hypocritical (to me) with the "you could have it worse" type of argument, is: sure you could have it worse, but why would that erase depression? In that regard saying "you could have it better" would erase happiness. It's just a silly reasoning. |
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| a short psa bc it seems misunderstandings abound: depression is inherently illogical and it doesn't discriminate when it strikes codephat said: When I tried to tell him how blessed he was, imagine waking up one day, or just progressively feeling helpless and worthless with no "good" (i.e. socially acceptable) reason, losing interest in everything (including living on) and being told you're "blessed". A+ job, dude, way to make a guy (who is probably already feeling guilty enough) even more guilty. how dare such a well-off person get a mental disorder, right? let's try to cure him (read: guilt him out of it) with "logic" (read: blatant and callous disregard of the validity of someone else's feelings and state of mind) bc that sounds like such a great, "logical" idea. you've got love, money and whatnot, ergo your mental state must be in mint condition because, duh! breaking news. disorders can sniff out the size of your bank account. there's a checklist involved, and if your parents still gush over you like you're the best thing since purple fruit loops, you're definitely disqualified from depression, uh-huh. seriously though. no bff bracelet for u. :c edit: oh!!!!!!! that's what i call character development. good on you. but tbh there's no understanding depression unless one experiences it. it's your own brain turning against you. kind of like being the only one stepping on a crosswalk when a speeding car is about to pass because it wouldn't matter whether you get run over or not, like either outcome will do. feeling guilty can only make thoughts like this worse - more frequent and more daring. very scary and very dangerous, like poking a a lightly dozing monster. never a good idea. |
leukocyteofdoomJun 24, 2015 2:53 PM
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codephat said: Yep, I admit I was an idiot. It was about five years ago and it was my first time interacting with someone who was visibly depressed. Of course, I didn't just tell him he was better off than other people and should be happy about it. However, I was still wrong to even attempt. My original post was to say that suicidal thoughts were (for the most part) illogical, so trying to help people who are struggling with depression using logic doesn't really work. Ever since then, two other friends of mine have taken their own lives and they seemed to be the happiest people I knew. I admit that I really do not understand depression at all, but I would love to so that I can help others who are experiencing it. Theres a real problem out there when it comes to depression. Societies views on it as an illness are still very much in the dark ages and that can lead to accidents happening. The issue of having everyone kind of just making up their own mind on what depression is leads to everyone trying to be Dr Phil and come at these people with different and usually ill advised advice, without realizing just how dangerous it is to just talk to a depressive without the right mindset. What might not even register with us might tip someone with depression over the line and it can be even just a little throw away line you tell them. Best thing anyone can do is have them get real medical help, to get them to meet professionals who have dealt with this kind of thing before. Its all we can really do because depression is such a turbulent unpredictable thing that to try to tackle it ourselves without understanding is like going into a land mine area where the bomb kills the other person rather than yourself. When someone says a throw away line like "well you should consider others less fortunate." or "look at it logically" or someone goes in guns blazing when they haven't really experienced it themselves, telling someone what they should do, how to feel based on their own lives when they admit to never having really suffered in the first place is as dangerous as playing Russian roulette. I'm not talking about you but those others should consider that its not worth having your ego stroked to make yourself feel good and think you know what this person needs when you don't really know how to help, people are pretty good at reading through comments and seeing it for what it is, been judged for not been as good as the person giving the advice. Depression takes everything from you from the inside. When it takes your will and feeling for everything. you no longer feel anything, you feel dead inside and all motivation is taken from you. you no longer live for the future, you just exist in the moment. You stop been able to feel joy or happiness or anything, the things you used to love become meaningless. You have no goals, no future plans. Things like promotions at work, getting a car or house, marriage a future mean nothing to you. When they say depression takes everything from you, they mean everything. You lose the will to live, you just lay down and wait to die. Would someone mentally well ever do this. It didn't matter what kind of person you were before, no matter how strong or happy. |
SpooksJun 24, 2015 7:32 PM
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Spooks_McBones said: W-Wrong, I'll definitely become that MC I saw in that anime!You'll never be that MC you saw on that anime. |
Wecc said: All hail HaXXspetten king of the loli traps!  |
Rothion said: Spooks_McBones said: W-Wrong, I'll definitely become that MC I saw in that anime!You'll never be that MC you saw on that anime. I'll be your Aniki. |
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Rothion said: Spooks_McBones said: W-Wrong, I'll definitely become that MC I saw in that anime!You'll never be that MC you saw on that anime. Roth chan gambatee D: |
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| Anime and sweets~! ( ´ ▽ ` )ﾉ |
 gettttt dunked on!!!!!! |
| To continue adding spoilers to my profile. |
| Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm... even my fingers. The body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past." |
Ara_ said: how is that "hypocritical" though. o_oTachii said: whats wrong with feeling better about themselves? whats hypocritical? What is hypocritical (to me) with the "you could have it worse" type of argument, is: sure you could have it worse, but why would that erase depression? In that regard saying "you could have it better" would erase happiness. It's just a silly reasoning. |
| if life truly has no point, then their would be no point in killing yourself either. |
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| Sorry to say this OP, but you have a case of what is called "being an idiot". Unfortunately there is no cure. My condolences. |
HandsomeMan said: Sorry to say this OP, but you have a case of what is called "being an idiot". Unfortunately there is no cure. My condolences. Who are you? |
SpooksJun 24, 2015 7:31 PM
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| Simple, not complicated answer: Because I'm alive! |
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| i'm not sure. i guess survival instinct? |
| cool |
BiiteYouToDeath said: Like what the brilliant Alexandre Dumas once said: |
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