shongi said: ..well, that issue is really complicated in our country where police officers abuse their power of being able to shoot a suspect..most of them end up killing the suspect..i think that it is better if they shoot to immobilize rather than to kill..they really need further training on these matters..*sigh*...but i get ur point, pinguinus..how is it done in your country?? Apart from the absolutely mindblowing level of corruption , police officers tend to take it easy. Around here bribery is the name of the game and the more you steal the less probable it is that you end up in jail :/ With murder cases it's a different matter but that is not the issue at hand. We are in a point where the law is disregarded to such an extent that it lead's to paradoxical situations. Apart from that a big part of this country is an elaborate bribery game. This is not the case in other european countries when i mentioned "your country" in my previous post i didn't mean it as in "our country is better" i meant it as other countries are better. Our country is pretty neat until you want to make money. When that happens you have to jump in a gigantic shitstorm and hope you succede or use your connections in order to join up with the people that already succeded. |
Pinguinus said: Apart from the absolutely mindblowing level of corruption , police officers tend to take it easy. Around here bribery is the name of the game and the more you steal the less probable it is that you end up in jail :/ With murder cases it's a different matter but that is not the issue at hand. We are in a point where the law is disregarded to such an extent that it lead's to paradoxical situations. Apart from that a big part of this country is an elaborate bribery game. This is not the case in other european countries when i mentioned "your country" in my previous post i didn't mean it as in "our country is better" i meant it as other countries are better. Our country is pretty neat until you want to make money. When that happens you have to jump in a gigantic shitstorm and hope you succede or use your connections in order to join up with the people that already succeded. ..im sorry,pinguinus..i wasn't accusing you of claiming that your country is better..^^ ..i think that the ideal solution to change our political and social environment for the better is to uproot the whole tree instead of just pruning off unwanted twigs (which is what is commonly done almost everywhere) so that a new and better one will take its place..i know that this is synonymous to impossible..but i think this might actually work.. :) |
YoungVagabond said: No, no you don't. This is a complex legal issue that necessitates specific knowledge of Maryland state law and precedent, and which even professional lawyers will have diverging opinions about. Considering that you're too young to have even taken a basic Law 101 class, your opinion on this matter (and mine, for that matter) is entirely worthless. I never said my opinion matter, or would matter; that was never my point. Just because you haven't basic law doesn't mean you can't possibly know. That's exactly like saying if you never gone to culinary school, you can't possibly know how to cook. Seeing as how my original statement was Sayalol said: For the record, just becasue you haven't graduated high school doesn't mean you can't know what you're talking about when it comes to the law. Last time I checked, I know about the law, and how the legal system works. Sure, maybe my knowledge isn't as far ranged on this subject as some one who's gone to law school, but that wasn't my point, nor did I some how imply it. It has nothing to do with wheather or I've gone to basic law school. |
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Drunk_Samurai said: Malapharos said: Kazuzu said: i dont get it ? where in the article does it say hes a nerd? He has a samurai sword. If that doesn't make him a nerd, I don't know what does. I didn't know having a sword made somebody a nerd. Don't you know Oda Nobunaga is the biggest nerd in history |
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shongi said: ..i think that the ideal solution to change our political and social environment for the better is to uproot the whole tree instead of just pruning off unwanted twigs (which is what is commonly done almost everywhere) so that a new and better one will take its place..i know that this is synonymous to impossible..but i think this might actually work.. :) Yes indeed i had lots of thoughts on that ideea but each and every way i look at it, time and time again there is no system that can improve the current society. In order to achieve such a society we must first change the human being's way of thinking and views on life. Apart from brainwashing the entire population for a couple generations i see no other alternative at the moment. |
| Maah, if someone broke into my house they wouldn't be leaving perfectly healthy. I wouldn't necessarily go for 'The Kill' but I'd make damn sure that the mother fucker in question isn't getting away.. but overall if someone breaks into your house I think you have the right to kill them..the guy who is breaking in should know good and well he is putting himself in a situation where he can get seriously fucked up or even killed..And if he doesn't know/think that he is a retard who deserves to get killed anyway...Whether he is unarmed or not going to harm you doesn't matter..he is breaking into your house and threatening your sense of safety and security |
| yes that is an overkill, but that should be a lesson to all those burglar there: dont forget to steal the samurai sword |
| "Nerd is such a nasty word," said my Grade 12 English teacher. And I agree. Actually, all slang words with arbritrary definitions are pretty bad, when you think about it. You'd have people who actually fits the labels call others and they'd just say: "WELL, this is how I define it." |
Tachii said: "Nerd is such a nasty word," said my Grade 12 English teacher. And I agree. Actually, all slang words with arbritrary definitions are pretty bad, when you think about it. You'd have people who actually fits the labels call others and they'd just say: "WELL, this is how I define it." Quiet weaboo..........................oh crap your right |
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| if you're ashamed or upset at being labeled a nerd maybe you should change your lifestyle.theres a number of reasons the term 'nerd' is frowned upon and if you disagree then great, you're happy with who you so stay that way. getting upset over how society views the label 'nerd' isn't going to change it. |
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| Nobody is getting upset, mind you. It's just spoken in a scholarly view; that slangs are essentially "butchering" the English language with its arbitrary and vague definitions. |
Tachii said: Nobody is getting upset, mind you. It's just spoken in a scholarly view; that slangs are essentially "butchering" the English language with its arbitrary and vague definitions. That's awfully pretentious, don't you think? It isn't as if the introduction of new colloquialisms is a relatively new phenomenon. Language is constantly evolving and shifting with the cultures that speak it. And, with time, some of those words may become formalized and accepted. There's a reason why Middle English is occasionally taught as a second language at the university level. |
| Many states have what is called a castle doctrine or stand your ground laws. Basically, such a law makes it clear that a person does not have an obligation to flee if someone breaks into their home. In states with such laws, it would be very difficult to charge someone who defended their home, even if deadly force was used. This talk about the Texas law that allows for the use of deadly force to prevent the theft of property, really doesn't apply to this case. The act of breaking into someone's home is an act of violence in and of itself. You have no idea what the perpetrators intentions are or if they are armed. In almost all cases, just the act of breaking into someone's home is enough to satisfy the imminent danger provision of deadly force laws. |
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| Wait wait wait. I didn't read this whole thing but I can tell you that these kinds of cases usually rule in favor of the person protecting their home. It's not a law that I agree with at all, but people can often get away with murdering someone burglarising their home, especially if they say that they were in fear of their life. |
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Malapharos said: Sure, language is changing all the time, there's no denying of that. But it isn't like it's going into a 'positive' direction. Evolution can go both ways. And lately the amount of words with double, triple meanings is a sign of that. Actually, I guess, it's more like people are confusing the words, and not the language that is the focus here. But both are pretty relative, I guess.Tachii said: Nobody is getting upset, mind you. It's just spoken in a scholarly view; that slangs are essentially "butchering" the English language with its arbitrary and vague definitions. That's awfully pretentious, don't you think? It isn't as if the introduction of new colloquialisms is a relatively new phenomenon. Language is constantly evolving and shifting with the cultures that speak it. And, with time, some of those words may become formalized and accepted. On the same topic, what is the definition of pretentious? |
Tachii said: Sure, language is changing all the time, there's no denying of that. But it isn't like it's going into a 'positive' direction. Evolution can go both ways. And lately the amount of words with double, triple meanings is a sign of that. Actually, I guess, it's more like people are confusing the words, and not the language that is the focus here. But both are pretty relative, I guess. Has there ever been a time when the English language hasn't had words that carried more than one meaning depending on the context of their use? I'm legitimately curious, because I would think the answer would be a resounding "no," but I acknowledge I could be wrong. Tachii said: On the same topic, what is the definition of pretentious? I would argue that your statement that "slangs are essentially 'butchering' the English language" is "characterized by [an] assumption of dignity or importance" (courtesy of dictionary.com). After all, who are you to decry the alleged 'devolution' of the English language? |
| When the time was young, there hadn't been much words in the first place, and words initially only had one definition. If you really want a behind-the-bush answer. But yes, I'd agree that a "no" is in order, but I think, with no particular evidence, that words were used at one point, to only have one definition, with no other context than the only one available. Scientifically, there's no such thing as 'devolution'. Evolution is merely the concept of (organisms with) a history of descent with modification of one's common ancestors. Progressive and regressive both fits under the definition of evolution. Unless devolution means reverse evolution, in which organisms are moved back in time (physically impossible), reversing back to their common ancestors. Certainly, nobody have the 'power' or 'right' to denounce the way the English language is going. But, with words lately like "fuck", which can be used as an adjective or verb to almost every word, or the word "nerd" which seem to have a definition different from person to person, one can't help but feel that the English language isn't traversing in better paths. The purpose of language after all is to communicate, and to communicate, the best way would be to do it consistently and precisely. But to use vague words like 'fuck' to describe everything, one can't help but feel that the word has lost its own meaning already. |
Tachii said: Scientifically, there's no such thing as 'devolution'. That's nice... I wasn't referring to scientific theory, however, so you raise a moot point. Unless, of course, you were intending to highlight this as an example of the 'degeneration' or 'regression' (are those more acceptable terms in your eyes?) of the English language. That would make your comment relevant, but I'd still be inclined to disagree because I believe that context matters. The word 'child' is an excellent example of a word that varies depending on context. I'll explain if you'd like, but I think you get the point. Tachii said: Certainly, nobody have the 'power' or 'right' to denounce the way the English language is going. But, with words lately like "fuck", which can be used as an adjective or verb to almost every word, or the word "nerd" which seem to have a definition different from person to person, one can't help but feel that the English language isn't traversing in better paths. The purpose of language after all is to communicate, and to communicate, the best way would be to do it consistently and precisely. But to use vague words like 'fuck' to describe everything, one can't help but feel that the word has lost its own meaning already. And we return full circle to your initial point. I guess I'll just 'agree to disagree' and call it a day. |
| It's so very lovely to come to a peaceful conclusion. It rarely happens these days. |
| No, you don't mess with Deaf people. Lol...sorry if this offends anybody. D': |
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Rub_My_Fanny said: Kaisereddie (50.0% Male) said: I am rather sure you don't need to use that imperative. Nerds don't get laid by definition. Oh wait. He'll be getting some nice black dick in jail. All I can say to that person is, "don't drop the soap" lol |
| funny i'm reading this... it was only a few days ago i was thinking about getting sword fighting lessons. i doubt i could legally kill anyone in germany, though. also, the blood would ruin my carpet. |
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burntlettuce said: Kettricken said: Anyone remember those sweets called nerds? God they were good. And woo, swords, get in. Those were mad good, got to go by some now...>.> I used to put the whole packet in my mouth lol sugar rush my mum wont let me buy a sword because of this reason i want a 500 dollar replicar of legolas' swords in lord of the rings but noo :D |
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| Oh shit! Nerds are dangerous... smart and dangerous. Sexy |
Xtrazi said: FAKE!Oh shit! Nerds are dangerous... smart and dangerous. Sexy you don't exist! |
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| The student was completely within his right, to protect his life and property, to kill the burglar--given that the burglar initiated force and put both his life and property in jeopardy. It's self defense, not punishment. If the burglar got caught and prosecuted after-the-fact, I don't think that the death penalty would be justified in that you can't retroactively change a crime via punishment. |
| "When he will, the weary world Of the senses closely curled Like a serpent round his heart Shakes herself and stands apart." - A.C., Equinox I/I |
pra said: Xtrazi said: FAKE!Oh shit! Nerds are dangerous... smart and dangerous. Sexy you don't exist! That IS true, but how do you know? |
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