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Sep 7, 2012 6:38 AM
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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This thread is strictly for people who have finished seeing the anime and wish to continue the story through the manga --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you love the anime, and plan to read the manga later, DON'T. Majority of manga readers hated how the story turned out after the events in the anime, me included. In fact, it was so bad, I wish I could rewind time and forget about this atrocity (the manga). The ending goes against the very fiber, the very essence of the series. Just don't do it man. Consider this a public service announcement. It is for your own good. Episode 11 of the anime is where the story stops. Make up your own ending and be glad you did not read the manga! Here are some reactions of people that've finished reading the manga (NO SPOILERS) : SonicSam said: Having just watched the anime in a marathon, and continuing the manga where the anime ended... What. The. Fuck. Colonel_Mustard said: Read through the whole thing today after watching and loving the anime. Sadly, I find myself extremely disappointed. Ousto said: Instead of remembering this as "That amazing, charming, and touching manga", I'm going to remember it as "That manga that went to absolute shit after the first half". Sigh. Now excuse me as I try to forget the 2nd half of this story even exists. animaxx said: Seriously this 2nd part is all filler, right? this is all some demented fan fiction and NOT the true ending?? ... FOR FUCK SAKE, WHAT THE FUCK HAVE I JUST WATCHED!! MY EYES BURN!!!! I hate this retarded author for fucking up such an amazing story, with soo much potential MiraiLink said: I'm terribly disappointed with the conclusion and the second half. kion said: got really hooked into reading this after the anime finished. well..what can i say that hasn't already been said? i read that it gets quite 'controversial' and damn, NOW I KNOW Cloudy-Sky said: I just pretend i never read the second part :| I'm really disappointed :/ SGI3 said: As much as I hate to be one of those people, this manga really trainwrecked. |
SixthDec 19, 2012 9:21 PM
Sep 7, 2012 10:46 AM
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Hello, Richard. |
Mr. Wonsworth, you may NOT eat my scones! |
Sep 7, 2012 12:03 PM
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Treekodar said: Hello, Richard. Haha, a fellow LFG fan?! +10 points for being awesome! |
SixthSep 7, 2012 11:43 PM
Sep 7, 2012 12:27 PM
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i'm part of those who accepts the ending as it is, if there's any who does too. |
Sep 14, 2012 10:14 AM
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I haven't read the manga I was about to go here and, ask for a comparison but, I don't think I need to with this thread. It sounds like the manga has a tragic ending which I was expecting in the anime but, I normally find series that are all over happy annoying as hell. However after finishing Usagi Drop I really enjoyed it and, I'm glad that everything appeared to work out at the end. After hearing responses I'm not quite sure I want to read the manga if it will kill the very thing which I enjoyed about the anime and, that is it was happy I bad situation but, A bright future for the Rin. |
Sep 15, 2012 5:21 AM
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MidnightPride said: I haven't read the manga I was about to go here and, ask for a comparison but, I don't think I need to with this thread. It sounds like the manga has a tragic ending which I was expecting in the anime but, I normally find series that are all over happy annoying as hell. However after finishing Usagi Drop I really enjoyed it and, I'm glad that everything appeared to work out at the end. After hearing responses I'm not quite sure I want to read the manga if it will kill the very thing which I enjoyed about the anime and, that is it was happy I bad situation but, A bright future for the Rin. I'm so glad I've saved at least one person from reading the manga. This is the best decision you've ever made, trust me. No matter how much you want to read the manga, don't do it. It completely kills everything you loved about the anime. And the ending is just.....disturbing. |
SixthSep 15, 2012 5:26 AM
Sep 18, 2012 8:52 AM
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I wish I found this thread before I stumbled upon the manga.... meh, who am I kidding, I know myself, I would still have read it just out of curiosity... And boy, do I regret reading that. I still can't fathom, can't understand how a mangaka that can build such a sweet and interesting premise, destroy it completely with his own hands. For those who are wondering, it is not a tragedy (at least for the characters involved) it is in fact fell under happy ending (except for the readers), but it is just so sickeningly disturbing. And I hate it not just because it is disturbing (I have a strange affection for disturbing stuffs), it is just how the story progress completely blemished the 1st part of the manga (the anime), it just departed so far from it's theme and original message and slaps you with something akin to "Directed by M. Night Shyamalan". Bottom line, this is what I have been telling myself when I go to sleep, "There is no Usagi Drop manga" |
Sep 25, 2012 5:07 PM
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Sep 26, 2012 6:47 PM
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True, the mangas' ending isn't that bad. It's just different lol. Things definitely took a thing for the weird though,but the whole she's not related by blood thing |
Sep 26, 2012 7:21 PM
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JavierR said: That's just a cheap way of dodging a bullet, except, you know...True, the mangas' ending isn't that bad. It's just different lol. Things definitely took a thing for the weird though,but the whole she's not related by blood thing Being related is not just about being of the same blood or sharing family. They grew up together, he raised her as a dad would raise his own daughter. Does it really matter that she was or wasn't his "aunt"? Of course not, it'd be like arguing that foster parent can get together with a foster son/daughter. It's not just disturbing, it makes one question the morals of the writer and what led such a stark change in tone. How can one go from a happy family-oriented and sweet story to what basically amounts to an incestual relationship? If someone knows what kind of thinking leads from point A to point B I'm willing to listen cause my brain imploded. |
Sep 26, 2012 7:35 PM
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Leon-Gun said: JavierR said: That's just a cheap way of dodging a bullet, except, you know...True, the mangas' ending isn't that bad. It's just different lol. Things definitely took a thing for the weird though,but the whole she's not related by blood thing Being related is not just about being of the same blood or sharing family. They grew up together, he raised her as a dad would raise his own daughter. Does it really matter that she was or wasn't his "aunt"? Of course not, it'd be like arguing that foster parent can get together with a foster son/daughter. It's not just disturbing, it makes one question the morals of the writer and what led such a stark change in tone. How can one go from a happy family-oriented and sweet story to what basically amounts to an incestual relationship? If someone knows what kind of thinking leads from point A to point B I'm willing to listen cause my brain imploded. that's not what i meant i meant like it was a dumb way to do it, the writer just made it that they weren't related so rin falling in love with him would be "not incest" I just didn't like the way they did it the ending definitely is the worst case scenario but it was obvious it was going to happen when the girl the MC liked {i forgot his name} got married. I was like damn... well this story is gonna get fucked up real soon |
Dec 17, 2012 7:18 PM
#13
All these censored out spoilers makes it even more curious and tempting to read the manga now. ;P It probably isn't even that bad. Seeing a previous discussion in which whether there is any romance in Usagi Drop between Daikichi and Rin, and people answering that there is in the manga, I can only assume this is heading in that direction. |
Dec 18, 2012 11:47 AM
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Falads said: please don't, i'm begging you, i cannot stress enough how much you need to ignore the existence of the mangaAll these censored out spoilers makes it even more curious and tempting to read the manga now. |
Dec 18, 2012 1:30 PM
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I'm going to read the manga and this is because I was spoiled. Deal with it. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Dec 18, 2012 1:57 PM
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So you want people to NOT read the manga because YOU and a bunch of others didnt like it...seems normal. That was the real ending deal with it. |
Dec 18, 2012 2:01 PM
#17
I liked the end of the manga and I recommend read the manga for those who have seen the anime. |
Dec 18, 2012 2:02 PM
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It's actually good though. I wasn't expecting it but it was good. |
Dec 18, 2012 2:02 PM
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JavierR said: True, the mangas' ending isn't that bad. It's just different lol. Things definitely took a thing for the weird though,but the whole she's not related by blood thing I think it killed everything this story was standing for. |
SetsukoHaraDec 18, 2012 2:13 PM
Dec 18, 2012 2:03 PM
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1. she's technically blood related if you go down the family tree - and not that far either. However - if I'm wrong on that point IT DOESN'T MATTER. INCEST HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLOOD RELATION, look up the actual meaning of the word. Incest with blood-relatives is ONE TYPE of incest - however incest covers much more than that. 2. incest is never a good thing especially not when the entire story is about a parent and daughter - not about a man raising a personal fucktoy, which is all she ends up being. Disgusting. Not just disgusting, but it goes against the point, it goes entirely against what the entire show was about as already mentioned. Suppose it's an accurate depiction of how otaku would use the adoption services in Japan though. Raise-your-waifu machines. oops, forgot spoiler tags |
TallonKarrde23Dec 26, 2012 3:29 AM
Dec 18, 2012 7:55 PM
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Falads said: Spoilerish post Please put spoiler tags on that last bit man. ssjokg said: So you want people to NOT read the manga because YOU and a bunch of others didnt like it...seems normal. That was the real ending deal with it. I'm just sad it was the real ending. This thread is just a fair warning to new fans. I'm not stopping anybody who wants to read it. Go on, knock yourself out. But if you liked the anime for the right reasons, you will not like the manga ending and wish you hadn't read it. TallonKarrde23 said: Spoiler post Please please put spoiler tags on your post man. I'm shocked some people actually LIKE the ending tbh. I could go on and on about what's wrong with it, but I'll save it for another thread. |
Dec 19, 2012 4:07 AM
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Sixth said: ssjokg said: So you want people to NOT read the manga because YOU and a bunch of others didnt like it...seems normal. That was the real ending deal with it. I'm just sad it was the real ending. This thread is just a fair warning to new fans. I'm not stopping anybody who wants to read it. Go on, knock yourself out. But if you liked the anime for the right reasons, you will not like the manga ending and wish you hadn't read it. Warning? Sixth said: If you love the anime, and plan to read the manga later, DON'T. Majority of manga readers hated how the story turned out after the events in the anime, me included. In fact, it was so bad, I wish I could rewind time and forget about this atrocity (the manga). Consider this a public service announcement. It is for your own good. Episode 11 of the anime is where the story stops. Make up your own ending and be glad you did not read the manga! I dont think so.It looks more like"Some of us didnt like it so stay the hell away from it" which can be said for every manga or anime.It looks more like an opinion turned into fact.And in case that it really was a warning,it totally sucks as one. Majority? Score Stats 10 14.0% (686 votes) 9 26.3% (1284 votes) 8 32.5% (1589 votes) 7 17.0% (830 votes) 6 5.8% (285 votes) 5 2.3% (114 votes) 4 0.9% (43 votes) 3 0.3% (15 votes) 2 0.4% (21 votes) 1 0.3% (17 votes) Even if we count 1-7 as bad scores it isnt the majority. @TallonKarrde23 1a.If I remember correctly they arent blood related at all.Although Rin doesnt know about it. 1b.Not all countries have the same morals/ethics/laws. 2.Yeah Daikichi definitely raised her for that purpose./sarcasm Your comment belowthat is utterly retarded.Yeah every otaku was waiting Usagi Drop's ending in order to become perverts Yes I wasnt expecting that ending at all and seriously was"DAFUQ Rin?" towards the end but it didnt ruin the series for me.Maybe because I always saw Daikichi as a substitute father and I was always waiting for her mother to take her back My problem with that thread(and any similar one) is that: 1)confuses the reader.I did found one thread like this before reading it and I thought that Rin will die or some sort of KEY tragedy will happen. 2)The OP assumes that only those that didnt like it were right while the MAJORITY obviously liked the ending enough to give scores from 8-10. |
ssjokgDec 19, 2012 4:23 AM
Dec 19, 2012 4:17 AM
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Saying No Spoilers when making a thread trying to justify how the ending of the anime is favorable while the manga isn't is well ... Can I say just 100% retarded? I mean honestly? Did you honestly think that you could explain why not to read the manga and why the anime is better WITHOUT spoiling anything? Bearing in mind by that saying that the anime has a better outcome implies that the manga has an unfavorable outcome -_- ... Also saying don't read the original, instead watch a retake on the original story is ... Honestly I haven't read/watched this series but this thread only makes me want to read the manga because now I know that the anime destroyed the original intent of the author in order to pander to derps who don't even know what the fuck a spoiler means ... Oh and feel free to take offense to that if you want. |
Dec 19, 2012 9:08 PM
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ssjokg said: Sixth said: ssjokg said: So you want people to NOT read the manga because YOU and a bunch of others didnt like it...seems normal. That was the real ending deal with it. I'm just sad it was the real ending. This thread is just a fair warning to new fans. I'm not stopping anybody who wants to read it. Go on, knock yourself out. But if you liked the anime for the right reasons, you will not like the manga ending and wish you hadn't read it. Warning? Sixth said: If you love the anime, and plan to read the manga later, DON'T. Majority of manga readers hated how the story turned out after the events in the anime, me included. In fact, it was so bad, I wish I could rewind time and forget about this atrocity (the manga). Consider this a public service announcement. It is for your own good. Episode 11 of the anime is where the story stops. Make up your own ending and be glad you did not read the manga! I dont think so.It looks more like"Some of us didnt like it so stay the hell away from it" which can be said for every manga or anime.It looks more like an opinion turned into fact.And in case that it really was a warning,it totally sucks as one. Majority? Score Stats 10 14.0% (686 votes) 9 26.3% (1284 votes) 8 32.5% (1589 votes) 7 17.0% (830 votes) 6 5.8% (285 votes) 5 2.3% (114 votes) 4 0.9% (43 votes) 3 0.3% (15 votes) 2 0.4% (21 votes) 1 0.3% (17 votes) Even if we count 1-7 as bad scores it isnt the majority. @TallonKarrde23 1a.If I remember correctly they arent blood related at all.Although Rin doesnt know about it. 1b.Not all countries have the same morals/ethics/laws. 2.Yeah Daikichi definitely raised her for that purpose./sarcasm Your comment belowthat is utterly retarded.Yeah every otaku was waiting Usagi Drop's ending in order to become perverts Yes I wasnt expecting that ending at all and seriously was"DAFUQ Rin?" towards the end but it didnt ruin the series for me.Maybe because I always saw Daikichi as a substitute father and I was always waiting for her mother to take her back My problem with that thread(and any similar one) is that: 1)confuses the reader.I did found one thread like this before reading it and I thought that Rin will die or some sort of KEY tragedy will happen. 2)The OP assumes that only those that didnt like it were right while the MAJORITY obviously liked the ending enough to give scores from 8-10. I said majority of folks didn't like the ENDING of the manga. Go on, gather all the statistics you want....it is true, at least from the amount of people posting on forums and making youtube videos about it. I love the manga and anime as a whole, but the ending is terrible. Not because it is particularly bad or good, but just because it goes against the very essence of the story. I never stated it as fact. I said a lot of people were disappointed with the ending, and if you don't want to ruin the experience you had with the anime, don't bother finishing the manga. That's all. It is just friendly advice. I don't understand why you are so aggressive about the whole thing. Pirating_Ninja said: Saying No Spoilers when making a thread trying to justify how the ending of the anime is favorable while the manga isn't is well ... Can I say just 100% retarded? I mean honestly? Did you honestly think that you could explain why not to read the manga and why the anime is better WITHOUT spoiling anything? Bearing in mind by that saying that the anime has a better outcome implies that the manga has an unfavorable outcome -_- ... Also saying don't read the original, instead watch a retake on the original story is ... Honestly I haven't read/watched this series but this thread only makes me want to read the manga because now I know that the anime destroyed the original intent of the author in order to pander to derps who don't even know what the fuck a spoiler means ... Oh and feel free to take offense to that if you want. This thread is strictly for people who have only seen the anime and wish to continue the story through the manga - or people who have read the manga until the part where the anime ended. The anime is a faithful reconstruction of the first half of the manga so you're not missing out on anything. The second half of the manga is where the author completely changes the tone into something no fan of the anime (or the first half of the story) will want to see. Of course, I'm sure people will be curious and read it anyway as I did.....but that completely and utterly destroyed this series for me. Hopefully, this thread will save a few people from that fate. |
Dec 22, 2012 7:38 AM
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@Sixth If the ending was so horrible it would have greatly affected their final score.So according to the statistics people didnt care that much.The ending matters a lot in the final score. And there are more chances of making people READ the manga with that kind of threads. |
ssjokgDec 22, 2012 8:57 AM
Dec 22, 2012 8:43 AM
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Dec 26, 2012 3:35 AM
#28
ssjokg said: @TallonKarrde23 1a.If I remember correctly they arent blood related at all.Although Rin doesnt know about it. 1b.Not all countries have the same morals/ethics/laws. 2.Yeah Daikichi definitely raised her for that purpose./sarcasm Your comment belowthat is utterly retarded.Yeah every otaku was waiting Usagi Drop's ending in order to become perverts 1a. I already said I wasn't 100% sure on that. 1b. You're wrong. Morals, ethics, and laws are not relevant at all to what I said. If you want to talk about retarded comments, you made one here. The definition, the unarguable factual meaning of the term, has no relation strictly to blood relation. This is not about laws, ethics, morals, or anything else subjective. It's objectively and factually a term that has a much broader meaning than blood relation no matter the context or what location it's being used in. I am speaking of the word, the idea, the "thing" - not the law, moral sides of it, or anything else. And the "idea" is globally unchanged, what constitutes it always does no matter where you are. Whether or not a location finds it normal, acceptable, or disgusting and horrible - or even if it calls it something else entirely - doesn't change the factual meaning of the term's application and meaning. 2. You did a great job arguing against my point there by not actually saying anything but hilariously poorly written gibberish that also clearly ignores what I actually said. I said nothing about otaku waiting for Usagi Drop to end - I made a joking remark about how otaku are all disgusting pedophiles who would love to raise their future sex friend or romance partner. A joke clearly playing off the end of the manga and the general idea of otaku being disgusting people. It had no mention of Usagi Drop aside a short reference point saying that it's a good example of how otaku would use the adoption agency. I don't see how you read that as "LOL THEY WAITIN 2 SEE INCEST ENDING IN MANGA :DDD". How do you get "otaku are waiting for a pedo ending to this manga" from "otaku would abuse the adoption services lol"? That doesn't even make fucking sense. The comment had no connection to this franchise aside in your own mind and there was never a single indication that it was. You couldn't even misread it as being anything about the manga. Hell, somehow connecting it to the manga is a fucking amazing feat on it's own. As for Daikichi raising her for that purpose, you put /sarcasm, yet you clearly can't detect any. You also don't understand the very simple idea of exaggeration to get a - very clearly understood (from the context of this entire thread) - point across without having to write up a fucking personal essay about what I'm trying to convey. Whether you noticed the sarcasm or not, you should be aware of something as hilariously simple as exaggeration. This is something you learn before you even start going to any sort of school simply through human interaction. When the context of what you're saying will be understood by anyone not fucking retarded, you can exaggerate a point to more quickly say something; a "tl;dr" of sorts. "He jumps as high as the moon" wouldn't mean someone is literally leaping out of the atmosphere. It would mean they jump high. In any situation where you're not talking to some DARPA researcher working on a special suit made to make people jump to the moon, it's given through obvious context that it's an exaggeration being used to help further the point more easily and casually. There's a term for that, but you can learn that yourself in second grade. You're really taking on the wrong people if you want to keep pretending you're actually intelligent. Go back to your SAO threads, you've always fit right in. |
TallonKarrde23Dec 26, 2012 4:06 AM
Dec 26, 2012 3:44 AM
#29
at least this thread is useful in my opinion. unlike SAO threads. even though i like the ending, i agree that most people won't like it. not many people are that open minded. |
Dec 26, 2012 5:01 AM
#30
Contains spoilers: @TallonKarrde23 1)You think that the morals etc of your family/country are the norm?.And no it isnt globally unchanged.Depending on time and place,incest wasnt always Taboo. 2)You made a comment about the otaku and this kind of ending.Why would I ignore it?Again how was Usagi's drop end relevant to the perversion of the otaku?Unless Daikichi was one ,and I totally missed that,which then would make him an self-insert char ,which would totally justify your point. So it was sarcasm huh?Sorry that I have seen so many retarded people posting here and that I dont have the power to know if you or anyone else is being sarcastic. And SAO,SAO,SAO,SAO... Is this how you want to argue?Really?Because I was in SAO's threads now I cant post anywhere else?Are you DraconisMarch's friend too? |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:40 AM
Dec 26, 2012 6:05 AM
#31
@sixth first post: The threads topic doesn't make sense, because there is no argumentation in it, why you shoudln't watch it. Even though I now know, what I can expect from the manga and I belong to those guys, who like that kind of developments, I wasn't sure, if this really prevents me from reading it. It belongs to Usagi Drop universe and as a fan of that universe, you have to read it. Maybe it isn't first in my priority list. But I really don't see any point telling others to no watch something, but don't explain why. If you said, the MC was going to die, then you had succeded, because you had driven off all guys, who don't like, that a MC dies... But still this point is vague, because tastes can be very very different, even between good friends. Mod Edit: Removed those parts that were referring to deleted posts. |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:44 AM
All hail the Nutcracker Queen! |
Dec 26, 2012 2:09 PM
#32
Contains spoilers: ssjokg said: @TallonKarrde23 1)You think that the morals etc of your family/country are the norm?.And no it isnt globally unchanged.Depending on time and place,incest wasnt always Taboo. 2)You made a comment about the otaku and this kind of ending.Why would I ignore it?Again how was Usagi's drop end relevant to the perversion of the otaku?Unless Daikichi was one ,and I totally missed that,which then would make him an self-insert char ,which would totally justify your point. So it was sarcasm huh?Sorry that I have seen so many retarded people posting here and that I dont have the power to know if you or anyone else is being sarcastic. And SAO,SAO,SAO,SAO... Is this how you want to argue?Really?Because I was in SAO's threads now I cant post anywhere else?Are you DraconisMarch's friend too? 1. I never said a single word about anything being taboo or not, you are once again shoving words in my mouth to try and make yourself feel less like an idiot. I never even implied anything about a taboo. Incest is defined - the meaning that FACTUALLY, CAN NOT BE CHANGED, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT IT TO CHANGE SO YOU CAN TELL YOURSELF YOU ARENT A MORON, as being "Incest is sexual intercourse between family members and close relatives. The term may apply to sexual activities between individuals of close "blood relationship", members of the same household, step relatives related by adoption or marriage, or members of the same clan or lineage". I'll use wikipedia's way of wording it sense it'll be simplest for you. Note: same household, step relatives, related by adoption or marriage s included. Thus, Rin and Daikichi is - unarguagly, by definition, an incestuous relationship. AND NOTHING IN ANY OF THAT SAYS A SINGLE WORD ABOUT TABOOS OR WHATS WRONG OR RIGHT MORALLY. I am not arguing morality with you, I am arguing the fact that Incest =/= "sex with people blood related to you". That is factually wrong. Incest applies to a MUCH BROADER GROUP than just that. And before you, once again, purposefully change what I said so you can keep arguing and feel like some sort of intellectual (your avatar gives away what a retarded child you are trying hard to think you're smart - it always has, which is ironic given how hilariously badly written both the VN and specific character were); WRONG as in "INCORRECT" not WRONG as in "MORALLY TERRIBLE!". Wrong as in "this is misinformation", not wrong as in "you shouldn't do that!". 2. I never made a comment about otaku and this kind of ending specific to this manga. I made a comment that VERY CLEARLY stated ONLY AND NOTHING MORE OR LESS that otaku would probably use adoption agencies to get a kid and raise it to be the girl of their dreams. I do NOT see the connection from "lol otaku are incestous pedos gross lolol" to "THIS MANGA ONLY SOLD TO PEDOPHILIAC CREEPS WHO WANT TO BE LIKE DAIKICHI WHO I ALSO NEVER SAID, BUT AM NOW SAYING BECAUSE YOU CLAIM I DID, THAT HE ALSO LEGITIMATELY DID THIS!" I'm done with you. Oh, and before I go - I don't even know who that is aside literally seeing his posts just in this thread. I only am friends with one person who uses this site, and they never post on the forums. Ever. |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:35 AM
Dec 26, 2012 2:20 PM
#33
Contains spoilers: So if incest isnt the problem here,why is Usagi Drop's ending a problem?Because there must be a fucking reason it is so bad.If you dont think that incest is Taboo then why is the ending so bad? 2.Again what do the otaku have to so with this?You make a speculation on what they would possibly do for, apparently, no reason at all.If that comment wasnt because of Usagi drop then why did you even mention it?You just said it for the sake of saying it? |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:30 AM
Dec 26, 2012 2:28 PM
#34
Contains spoilers: ssjokg said: So if incest isnt the problem here,why is Usagi Drop's ending a problem?Because there must be a fucking reason it is so bad.If you dont think that incest is Taboo then why is the ending so bad? 2.Again what do the otaku have to so with this?You make a retarded speculation on what they would possibly do for, apparently, no reason at all.If that comment wasnt because of Usagi drop then why did you even mention it?You just said it for the sake of saying it? I never said how I feel about incest. Never. Not a single part of anything of mine you've replied to have I given an opinion on incest aside one line you entirely ignored (funnily enough). However - the definition of incest, WHICH IS THE ONLY THING I WAS EVER EVEN TALKING ABOUT (which, by the way, was made amazingly clear), has nothing to do with my personal beliefs. Daikichi and Rin are, unarguably and by definition, in an incestuous relationship. I never said if it was MORALLY bad or not, I never said if it shouldn't be allowed aside for being shitty writing - I simply pointed out one FACT. Someone mentioned that it's "not incest because they aren't blood related". I was pointing out, TO THEM, that they are wrong. Incest is not confined to only applying if blood relations are there. This was a matter of pointing out a blatant piece of false information someone else was using and explaining to them the actual meaning of the term. You're the one who took it as more than that and who I've subsequently replied to. I could love incest or hate it, it doesn't change a single thing you're arguing with me about; incest, by definition, would include their relationship. 2. What speculation? I made a joke about otaku that was entirely unrelated to Usagi Drop. I've explained this, I'm not doing it again. Well, you won't find it (attention) from me anymore. I said I'm done, so I'm done. You're fishing for replies so you can pretend anyone cares, so you got another one - but I'm out. |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:31 AM
Dec 26, 2012 2:31 PM
#35
Contains spoilers: So you said it for no reason at all. And yes you said that incest is wrong ,as for what incest means in 1a I just stated that you were wrong about them being blood related and in 1b I state that it doesnt matter anyway because not everybody thinks that it is wrong NO MATTER WHAT THE DEFINITION IS.Sorry that I didnt spell it out for you. Mod Edit: Cleaned the thread a bit and added some spoiler tags. Since this is supposed to be a non spoiler thread, this discussion should be continued in another thread or on your user profiles. |
LunaDec 28, 2012 8:45 AM
Jan 7, 2013 7:33 PM
#36
Lol wow I didn't even need to read the manga it became obvious from this discussion that if it wasn't about a tragedy then it was some Woody Allen sh*t. That is really disappointing. I absolutely loved this anime, but I wasn't a huge fan of the ending because we don't see Daikichi and Kouki's mom get together. Now I know why. I agree with the other comments in this thread that think it's a poor choice of ending. Even if one does not think incest is immoral - and I do not think it's immoral - there is a real issue with raising someone and then having a sexual relationship with them, because it raises weird issues of consent (including subconscious), motive, and blurs the family and generational lines just a tad too much for my tastes. |
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Jan 7, 2013 8:14 PM
#37
Jan 7, 2013 9:33 PM
#38
just finished watching the anime, and though I wasn't planning on reading it anyway, i was hearing some rumours about usagi drop being completely different in the manga. this time, I'll just take the "ignorance is bliss" approach and take your advice. if i'm really meant to read it in the future, well i'll just read it when the time comes. thx for the heads up |
Jan 12, 2013 6:58 PM
#39
what's wrong with the manga? can someone please explain to me? >< |
Jan 13, 2013 8:15 PM
#40
toshio0430 said: what's wrong with the manga? can someone please explain to me? >< This post convinced me to read the manga, and today i finished it. Although it does stray away from the original point of the first half, it's not as bad as these guys make it out to be. for me the first half of the manga(which the anime covers) is a masterpiece, while the second half was okay. The second half doesn't feel like it's even the same manga. it doesn't feel like it's usagi drop. they ruined the masterpiece that was the first half and the anime, but it's not bad. it's enjoyble, and not bad at all. these people are exaggerating. what people mostly hate about the manga was the ending, but again, there exaggerating. I don't think it was a good ending, but it was okay. again, it wasn't bad, at least in my opinion. well, i can't really explain without spoiling, but it isn't as bad as they make it out to be, just not the Usagi Drop you know and love. |
Feb 4, 2013 3:43 PM
#41
The funny thing is I too was one of the unfortunate souls who decided to read the manga after the anime even though I read so many posts like this telling me not to. I guess it's just goes to show how effective reverse psychology is. But honestly I really wish I had not read the manga, not because it was horribly bad or tragic but rather it just completely ruined the image I had of Rin and Daikichi. I don't know how to describe the feeling but I felt like the ending made the rest of the series seem like a waste of time and effort. |
Space-TimeFeb 4, 2013 4:46 PM
Feb 14, 2013 8:04 PM
#42
Pirating_Ninja said: Saying No Spoilers when making a thread trying to justify Did you honestly think that you could explain why not to read the manga and why the anime is better WITHOUT spoiling anything? He did a pretty good job....showing people's reactions....convinced me :) Well done, OP |
Feb 14, 2013 9:02 PM
#43
rogerwilco said: Pirating_Ninja said: Saying No Spoilers when making a thread trying to justify Did you honestly think that you could explain why not to read the manga and why the anime is better WITHOUT spoiling anything? He did a pretty good job....showing people's reactions....convinced me :) Well done, OP He convinced me to eventually read it. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Feb 14, 2013 9:20 PM
#44
it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. |
Feb 14, 2013 9:21 PM
#45
tsudecimo said: it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. This statement is so full of bullshit it's ridiculous. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Feb 14, 2013 9:22 PM
#46
insan3soldiern said: tsudecimo said: it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. This statement is so full of bullshit it's ridiculous. dont take him serious. I was reading the manga, and what happened blindsided me and knocked me outcold... still enjoyed it tho. |
Feb 14, 2013 9:41 PM
#47
JavierR said: insan3soldiern said: tsudecimo said: it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. This statement is so full of bullshit it's ridiculous. dont take him serious. I was reading the manga, and what happened blindsided me and knocked me outcold... still enjoyed it tho. really though ? i honestly saw this coming the moment i read this topic name incest is brought a lot in anime and manga being for comedy or serious is something else , being someone who watched anime it is not that shocking anymore am i right? I can understand the shock though, i myself thought it is retarded for the mangaka to do something like that ( to destroy the whole moral/point of the story) even though it was a thought in my head i was shocked that someone is dumb enough to do that. |
Feb 14, 2013 10:01 PM
#48
tsudecimo said: JavierR said: insan3soldiern said: tsudecimo said: it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. This statement is so full of bullshit it's ridiculous. dont take him serious. I was reading the manga, and what happened blindsided me and knocked me outcold... still enjoyed it tho. really though ? i honestly saw this coming the moment i read this topic name incest is brought a lot in anime and manga being for comedy or serious is something else , being someone who watched anime it is not that shocking anymore am i right? I can understand the shock though, i myself thought it is retarded for the mangaka to do something like that ( to destroy the whole moral/point of the story) even though it was a thought in my head i was shocked that someone is dumb enough to do that. Well, i read the manga without being spoiled, and i was surprised. I wasn't expecting that to happen in this kind of manga. |
Feb 14, 2013 10:24 PM
#49
tsudecimo said: JavierR said: insan3soldiern said: tsudecimo said: it is a bit obvious what happens in the manga anyone who watched enough anime and know about how weird japan is , should figure it out. This statement is so full of bullshit it's ridiculous. dont take him serious. I was reading the manga, and what happened blindsided me and knocked me outcold... still enjoyed it tho. really though ? i honestly saw this coming the moment i read this topic name incest is brought a lot in anime and manga being for comedy or serious is something else , being someone who watched anime it is not that shocking anymore am i right? I can understand the shock though, i myself thought it is retarded for the mangaka to do something like that ( to destroy the whole moral/point of the story) even though it was a thought in my head i was shocked that someone is dumb enough to do that. Actually it's pretty rare for the theme of of incest to actually be explored. The vast majority of anime, from my experience, at most tease the subject or default to the "not actually related" crutch. Not to mention the rather significant age gap between the two characters Really, it's easy to see how someone can be surprised by this. Whether it goes against the themes of the story or not, though,.....I'll have to see for myself. |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Feb 19, 2013 8:12 PM
#50
Just finished it and i feel sick :( It felt as he rised her just to marry her in the end so from cute story it turned into swamp :S Well there was no perfect ending accualy its really stupid ending and its not about blood relation why author made such stupid turns in story :( Give me back my ignorance !!! |
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