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Feb 11, 2024 10:31 AM
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I'm so damn fed up with people jumping on the hype train without even knowing why it's hyped in the first place and then go crying how much of a disappointment it is.

I'm saying it the for the millionth and last time:

Solo Leveling. Is. A. Power Fantasy. Story.

It's liked for its power fantasy. Not the story. Not the side characters. And also not for the art of the manhwa (tho it did certainly have a huge impact).

That being said, People who jumped on this hype expecting some big complex amazing deep story with an MC that's constantly struggling infinitely like a protagonist from the shounen genre, just leave. Stop complaining and stop watching, because that aspect of the anime won't change.

And if you don't like power fantasy to begin with, you definitely won't enjoy the anime.

We love the manwha because


I'm not saying it was perfect in every sense. They could've fleshed out some characters in the manhwa for example, which is what the anime is trying to do.

But Solo Leveling is perfect in what it tries to be... a power fantasy.

Amen
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Feb 11, 2024 10:41 AM
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understandable, have a good day
Feb 11, 2024 10:43 AM
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Since when is being a power fantasy an excuse for not having a good story or characters? lol
Feb 11, 2024 10:54 AM
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I mean its basically edgy MC with some development. Its like Sword Art Online leveling system do or die, hunter concept like Hunter x Hunter, edgy op MC like Anos Vodigrad and nationalistic themes where every other nations are enemies like Irregular Magic High all blend together.
Feb 11, 2024 11:09 AM
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It's basically self aware SAO without cringy melodrama, that ruined it. It's good as it is.
Feb 11, 2024 11:16 AM
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Sister Leveling is a WINCEST FANTASY



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*kappa*
Feb 11, 2024 11:16 AM
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I definitely liked it because of the story and art. I didn't like it solely because it's a power fantasy. I liked it because it's the most well done power fantasy that I've seen.
Feb 11, 2024 11:37 AM
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Tbh the extended focus of the anime on side characters or subplots is kinda annoying to me. I'd prefer it if they'd stayed true to the manhwa and kept all the focus on Jinwoo and him becoming an abosulte boss.

So yeah, absolutely agreed, Solo Leveling (or we as fans) never claimed that it has the best story or amazing characters (although I love them)



But it's just so freaking cool and fun. That's it, that's what we are here for and that's what we'll get.
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Feb 11, 2024 11:45 AM
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Basically, Gary Stu hack and slash. The premise is so rudimentary that even my pubescent cousin understands.

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Feb 11, 2024 11:46 AM

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AiraKT said:
Tbh the extended focus of the anime on side characters or subplots is kinda annoying to me. I'd prefer it if they'd stayed true to the manhwa and kept all the focus on Jinwoo and him becoming an abosulte boss.

So yeah, absolutely agreed, Solo Leveling (or we as fans) never claimed that it has the best story or amazing characters (although I love them)



But it's just so freaking cool and fun. That's it, that's what we are here for and that's what we'll get.

I never read the source material but I’ve been enjoying it so far especially the last episode.
Feb 11, 2024 12:22 PM
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Vedrun said:
I'm so damn fed up with people jumping on the hype train without even knowing why it's hyped in the first place and then go crying how much of a disappointment it is.

I'm saying it the for the millionth and last time:

Solo Leveling. Is. A. Power Fantasy. Story.

It's liked for its power fantasy. Not the story. Not the side characters. And also not for the art of the manhwa (tho it did certainly have a huge impact).

That being said, People who jumped on this hype expecting some big complex amazing deep story with an MC that's constantly struggling infinitely like a protagonist from the shounen genre, just leave. Stop complaining and stop watching, because that aspect of the anime won't change.

And if you don't like power fantasy to begin with, you definitely won't enjoy the anime.

We love the manwha because


I'm not saying it was perfect in every sense. They could've fleshed out some characters in the manhwa for example, which is what the anime is trying to do.

But Solo Leveling is perfect in what it tries to be... a power fantasy.

Amen

I mean yeah, of course it's liked because it's a power fantasy. What's wrong with that?
Feb 11, 2024 12:36 PM

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no shit, sherlock
Feb 11, 2024 12:55 PM
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So if the Story isn't peak then why is everyone saying it is peak?
Feb 11, 2024 12:59 PM
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What did you think Solo Leveling was? A slice of life anime, and you got disappointed when it wasn't? Okay, I got upset when we didn't see Jing stop for a quart of milk at the convenience store on the way home from the gate.
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oh so it's shit then
You all need to watch Nami.

Feb 11, 2024 1:12 PM
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Loayza said:
Since when is being a power fantasy an excuse for not having a good story or characters? lol

Yea, exactly. Being a power fantasy isn’t an excuse to lazily write characters that make no sense, a plot that is entirely based on contrived bullshit, and direction that is akin to Rian Johnson levels of horrid
Feb 11, 2024 1:14 PM

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Damn.... what a bold statement. You figured this out yourself or did Mom and Dad help you?^^
Feb 11, 2024 2:05 PM
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going through all that explaining as if that makes it less shit ๐Ÿ’€
Feb 11, 2024 2:38 PM
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Vedrun said:
I'm so damn fed up with people jumping on the hype train without even knowing why it's hyped in the first place and then go crying how much of a disappointment it is.

I'm saying it the for the millionth and last time:

Solo Leveling. Is. A. Power Fantasy. Story.

It's liked for its power fantasy. Not the story. Not the side characters. And also not for the art of the manhwa (tho it did certainly have a huge impact).

That being said, People who jumped on this hype expecting some big complex amazing deep story with an MC that's constantly struggling infinitely like a protagonist from the shounen genre, just leave. Stop complaining and stop watching, because that aspect of the anime won't change.

And if you don't like power fantasy to begin with, you definitely won't enjoy the anime.

We love the manwha because


I'm not saying it was perfect in every sense. They could've fleshed out some characters in the manhwa for example, which is what the anime is trying to do.

But Solo Leveling is perfect in what it tries to be... a power fantasy.

Amen

Idec what it is if its good it needs to be watched, end of story. no discrimination needed.
Feb 11, 2024 2:52 PM
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So modern worse SAO?
Feb 11, 2024 4:21 PM

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Even as a power fantasy, it's still bad.
Feb 11, 2024 4:32 PM
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Just because something is good at being something doesn't mean I enjoy that thing. I went into this knowing it is a power fantasy, and while it is pretty good for a power fantasy, that doesn't mean I enjoy power fantasies.
Feb 11, 2024 6:38 PM
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Meh. It’s SAO if MC is the only one who is actually playing and can level up; everyone else are literal NPC with one or two tricks up their sleeves but they are in a completely different world from MC.

I mean, even for a power fantasy it’s very very mid. At least people in SAO are all playing in SAO, just that MC plays it better than others.

From what I know, it doesn’t get any better. The S rank hunters are a joke later on and it really is Solo Leveling and Playing all the way through.

(Which is a shame. The quality of animation and BGM
is definitely peak af. But man this is one edgy af show with terrible story and development)
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whitebagelxyz said:
Meh. It’s SAO if MC is the only one who is actually playing and can level up; everyone else are literal NPC with one or two tricks up their sleeves but they are in a completely different world from MC.

I mean, even for a power fantasy it’s very very mid. At least people in SAO are all playing in SAO, just that MC plays it better than others.

From what I know, it doesn’t get any better. The S rank hunters are a joke later on and it really is Solo Leveling and Playing all the way through.

(Which is a shame. The quality of animation and BGM
is definitely peak af. But man this is one edgy af show with terrible story and development)

first I want to say, solo leveling concept never happened before , i didn't mean about power fantasy or anything but LEVELING, I mean in every manhwa, manhua , and anime , we know that everyone has or can level up, but in those animes mc becomes strong in a efficient way , we saw that in all the anime, mc getting stronger because he is talented, and has full luck lol, this anime don't do that, it says , mc is the only one who levels up, that's the point, it's like you can say it's a they added a new element in power fantasy,
i have a question โ‰๏ธ can anyone say that in any anime have you encountered a scenario where mc is the one who levels up and others don't?? no,
in my view other anime doesn't make sense?? because even tho villains has level up skills and side characters has level up skills,why doesn't no one becomes strong, ?? except some few selected characters?? it feels like they are ment to be side characters , that's why they doesn't become strong, in whole world is mc is the only guy with talent in other anime ??hell no, if yes then that anime is bullshit, because no one is smater then other or every one is smater then others, it's just how world is.
in solo leveling, mc doesn't need those bullshit because his whole world doesn't have leveling up skill, only mc has that, so that's why he is mc.thats why he is leaving up, i like this concept, i think every is misunderstanding this concept, they are comparing this anime to other power fantasy , I want to say it's power fantasy but with leveling up restriction,
why are s rank hunters are joke because compared to mc they are really joke ๐Ÿคฃ, when you compare with others they are strongest,and that's a fact, if you felt that s rank are joke then you understood that this manhwa really did make you feel that others are joke , just imagine mc with leveling but other don't have that, that's why mc is strongest and others are joke in this manhwa. author didn't neglect any characters because he knows that any guy with leveling up skill will be that strongest, just like Saitama, he is strongest and in that world everyone has level up skills but they grow slower or that depends on their hard work, Saitama only worked for 3 years and became limitless then after he can kill everyone with one punch because his growth rate is infinite,that's what solo leveling is trying to show but with leveling restriction.
For example Goku , DBZ,
Everyone knows that saiyans can grow stronger and much faster than others , they can grow with every fight, so wtf did a single friza killed them?? anime never mentioned about frizas growth rate, but friza suddenly becomes golden friza in 6 months and over powers blue super Saiyan,who actually worked hard and fought god of distruction and gained power , this is what I call a joke ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ, does this even make sense?? all anime are the same , brhh ,
for example take orv , which everyone says has the best storylines and has big world building, is that manhwa perfect??no, it also has problems, I can say some problems if you want.
, I am not saying this anime is perfect, but this anime shows perfectly about leveling up, this anime only talks and goes around leveling up, and that's it's concept, if you don't like it then that's your problem,
just don't consider this anime as others , mc is ment to be strongest and powerful from the beginning, and the name itself is solo leveling means mc is overpowered. and you are complaining about other , if A rank hunters beats an S rank in this manhwa then it's a flaw ,but if mc beats a shit of any character then it's not it's because he has leveling skill. it's simple but no one understands it.
just remember this manhwa is very popular not just because of art either. because of mc too, this anime shows what really happens when you have a godly level up power while everyone don't.it also has some flaws in other aspects like side characters, doesn't show romance properly,rushed, but it perfectly show about level up system.
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So, this show is basically telling you that, if you're too weak and fail at life, just die, so you'll be resurrected and granted some power from minimal effort + instant results.
Unlike characters/people who work hard to become better and see the growth, this show tells you that if you were born a Rank E, you'll fail no matter what, don't even bother trying. Your only chance to overcome it, is to be resurrected into something else and granted some easily acquired power that you magically deserve.

What a great lesson for all of us. Kids, take notes! This is exactly how life works!
Feb 12, 2024 12:41 AM
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_otaku_man00 said:
whitebagelxyz said:
Meh. It’s SAO if MC is the only one who is actually playing and can level up; everyone else are literal NPC with one or two tricks up their sleeves but they are in a completely different world from MC.

I mean, even for a power fantasy it’s very very mid. At least people in SAO are all playing in SAO, just that MC plays it better than others.

From what I know, it doesn’t get any better. The S rank hunters are a joke later on and it really is Solo Leveling and Playing all the way through.

(Which is a shame. The quality of animation and BGM
is definitely peak af. But man this is one edgy af show with terrible story and development)

first I want to say, solo leveling concept never happened before , i didn't mean about power fantasy or anything but LEVELING, I mean in every manhwa, manhua , and anime , we know that everyone has or can level up, but in those animes mc becomes strong in a efficient way , we saw that in all the anime, mc getting stronger because he is talented, and has full luck lol, this anime don't do that, it says , mc is the only one who levels up, that's the point, it's like you can say it's a they added a new element in power fantasy,
i have a question โ‰๏ธ can anyone say that in any anime have you encountered a scenario where mc is the one who levels up and others don't?? no,
in my view other anime doesn't make sense?? because even tho villains has level up skills and side characters has level up skills,why doesn't no one becomes strong, ?? except some few selected characters?? it feels like they are ment to be side characters , that's why they doesn't become strong, in whole world is mc is the only guy with talent in other anime ??hell no, if yes then that anime is bullshit, because no one is smater then other or every one is smater then others, it's just how world is.
in solo leveling, mc doesn't need those bullshit because his whole world doesn't have leveling up skill, only mc has that, so that's why he is mc.thats why he is leaving up, i like this concept, i think every is misunderstanding this concept, they are comparing this anime to other power fantasy , I want to say it's power fantasy but with leveling up restriction,
why are s rank hunters are joke because compared to mc they are really joke ๐Ÿคฃ, when you compare with others they are strongest,and that's a fact, if you felt that s rank are joke then you understood that this manhwa really did make you feel that others are joke , just imagine mc with leveling but other don't have that, that's why mc is strongest and others are joke in this manhwa. author didn't neglect any characters because he knows that any guy with leveling up skill will be that strongest, just like Saitama, he is strongest and in that world everyone has level up skills but they grow slower or that depends on their hard work, Saitama only worked for 3 years and became limitless then after he can kill everyone with one punch because his growth rate is infinite,that's what solo leveling is trying to show but with leveling restriction.
For example Goku , DBZ,
Everyone knows that saiyans can grow stronger and much faster than others , they can grow with every fight, so wtf did a single friza killed them?? anime never mentioned about frizas growth rate, but friza suddenly becomes golden friza in 6 months and over powers blue super Saiyan,who actually worked hard and fought god of distruction and gained power , this is what I call a joke ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ, does this even make sense?? all anime are the same , brhh ,
for example take orv , which everyone says has the best storylines and has big world building, is that manhwa perfect??no, it also has problems, I can say some problems if you want.
, I am not saying this anime is perfect, but this anime shows perfectly about leveling up, this anime only talks and goes around leveling up, and that's it's concept, if you don't like it then that's your problem,
just don't consider this anime as others , mc is ment to be strongest and powerful from the beginning, and the name itself is solo leveling means mc is overpowered. and you are complaining about other , if A rank hunters beats an S rank in this manhwa then it's a flaw ,but if mc beats a shit of any character then it's not it's because he has leveling skill. it's simple but no one understands it.
just remember this manhwa is very popular not just because of art either. because of mc too, this anime shows what really happens when you have a godly level up power while everyone don't.it also has some flaws in other aspects like side characters, doesn't show romance properly,rushed, but it perfectly show about level up system.

I think I lost some braincells reading that.
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GTRaijin said:
_otaku_man00 said:

first I want to say, solo leveling concept never happened before , i didn't mean about power fantasy or anything but LEVELING, I mean in every manhwa, manhua , and anime , we know that everyone has or can level up, but in those animes mc becomes strong in a efficient way , we saw that in all the anime, mc getting stronger because he is talented, and has full luck lol, this anime don't do that, it says , mc is the only one who levels up, that's the point, it's like you can say it's a they added a new element in power fantasy,
i have a question โ‰๏ธ can anyone say that in any anime have you encountered a scenario where mc is the one who levels up and others don't?? no,
in my view other anime doesn't make sense?? because even tho villains has level up skills and side characters has level up skills,why doesn't no one becomes strong, ?? except some few selected characters?? it feels like they are ment to be side characters , that's why they doesn't become strong, in whole world is mc is the only guy with talent in other anime ??hell no, if yes then that anime is bullshit, because no one is smater then other or every one is smater then others, it's just how world is.
in solo leveling, mc doesn't need those bullshit because his whole world doesn't have leveling up skill, only mc has that, so that's why he is mc.thats why he is leaving up, i like this concept, i think every is misunderstanding this concept, they are comparing this anime to other power fantasy , I want to say it's power fantasy but with leveling up restriction,
why are s rank hunters are joke because compared to mc they are really joke ๐Ÿคฃ, when you compare with others they are strongest,and that's a fact, if you felt that s rank are joke then you understood that this manhwa really did make you feel that others are joke , just imagine mc with leveling but other don't have that, that's why mc is strongest and others are joke in this manhwa. author didn't neglect any characters because he knows that any guy with leveling up skill will be that strongest, just like Saitama, he is strongest and in that world everyone has level up skills but they grow slower or that depends on their hard work, Saitama only worked for 3 years and became limitless then after he can kill everyone with one punch because his growth rate is infinite,that's what solo leveling is trying to show but with leveling restriction.
For example Goku , DBZ,
Everyone knows that saiyans can grow stronger and much faster than others , they can grow with every fight, so wtf did a single friza killed them?? anime never mentioned about frizas growth rate, but friza suddenly becomes golden friza in 6 months and over powers blue super Saiyan,who actually worked hard and fought god of distruction and gained power , this is what I call a joke ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ, does this even make sense?? all anime are the same , brhh ,
for example take orv , which everyone says has the best storylines and has big world building, is that manhwa perfect??no, it also has problems, I can say some problems if you want.
, I am not saying this anime is perfect, but this anime shows perfectly about leveling up, this anime only talks and goes around leveling up, and that's it's concept, if you don't like it then that's your problem,
just don't consider this anime as others , mc is ment to be strongest and powerful from the beginning, and the name itself is solo leveling means mc is overpowered. and you are complaining about other , if A rank hunters beats an S rank in this manhwa then it's a flaw ,but if mc beats a shit of any character then it's not it's because he has leveling skill. it's simple but no one understands it.
just remember this manhwa is very popular not just because of art either. because of mc too, this anime shows what really happens when you have a godly level up power while everyone don't.it also has some flaws in other aspects like side characters, doesn't show romance properly,rushed, but it perfectly show about level up system.

I think I lost some braincells reading that.

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚, it's not worth it bro, just watch and enjoy
Feb 12, 2024 1:31 AM
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yep its a simple power fantasy story and lots of rule of cool for the overpowered main character
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Radical_Orion said:
So, this show is basically telling you that, if you're too weak and fail at life, just die, so you'll be resurrected and granted some power from minimal effort + instant results.
Unlike characters/people who work hard to become better and see the growth, this show tells you that if you were born a Rank E, you'll fail no matter what, don't even bother trying. Your only chance to overcome it, is to be resurrected into something else and granted some easily acquired power that you magically deserve.

What a great lesson for all of us. Kids, take notes! This is exactly how life works!

it's a fantasy world bro, did you watch matrix movie??or die you watch men in black?? it will raise a question on the world itself. what if this kind of world really exist?? like for us we can't fly, and we can't survive after jumping from a mountain. do you think we are the only human that are living, ?? it's just a FANTASY world brhh, we don't know what exists outside of our universe yet. and you are telling some random bullshit, it's about a world where leveling up is impossible, that's how that world is designed lol, don't ever think humans are the only inteligent creature on our universe .
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So, this show is basically telling you that, if you're too weak and fail at life, just die, so you'll be resurrected and granted some power from minimal effort + instant results.
Unlike characters/people who work hard to become better and see the growth, this show tells you that if you were born a Rank E, you'll fail no matter what, don't even bother trying. Your only chance to overcome it, is to be resurrected into something else and granted some easily acquired power that you magically deserve.

What a great lesson for all of us. Kids, take notes! This is exactly how life works!
@Radical_Orion well luck happens all the time in real life too anyway and yes jinwoo has super luck aka asspull this show is not trying to be moral its just rule of cool
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deg said:
yep its a simple power fantasy story and lots of rule of cool for the overpowered main character

every anime is a simple fantasy where everything is prepared for them(mc) to get stronger and marry waifu, that was written by author and chosen by author himself.everything is decided and everyone knows that
Feb 12, 2024 1:43 AM
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yep its a simple power fantasy story and lots of rule of cool for the overpowered main character

every anime is a simple fantasy where everything is prepared for them(mc) to get stronger and marry waifu, that was written by author and chosen by author himself.everything is decided and everyone knows that
@_otaku_man00 there are less obvious and more obvious shows like that its just so happens that solo leveling is more obvious
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deg said:
@_otaku_man00 there are less obvious and more obvious shows like that its just so happens that solo leveling is more obvious

well you are correct but this anime is not about obvious but it is about making mc strongest ,so you will feel like it's obvious. all most all power fantasy are obvious if you think straight, i think
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Kids, you really need to pay attention to what you're reading if you decide to join the discussion. Or your reading comprehension is just lacking. Some comments really give me a headache.

Loayza said:
Since when is being a power fantasy an excuse for not having a good story or characters? lol


I never said it is. SL doesn't have bad story or characters, their focus was just elsewhere. What's so bad about the story and characters?

Cyanide86 said:
I mean yeah, of course it's liked because it's a power fantasy. What's wrong with that?


Did I say anything is wrong with that?

Z1250 said:
So if the Story isn't peak then why is everyone saying it is peak?


Literally no one is saying that. And if they do, they probably don't mean the story itself, or they just made contact with movies in general for the first time in their lives. The story is most definitely not peak, but it's also not bad.

Moppit said:
What did you think Solo Leveling was? A slice of life anime, and you got disappointed when it wasn't? Okay, I got upset when we didn't see Jing stop for a quart of milk at the convenience store on the way home from the gate.


???? "I" was fully aware. Others aren't, that's the whole point of my post...

whitebagelxyz said:
Meh. It’s SAO if MC is the only one who is actually playing and can level up; everyone else are literal NPC with one or two tricks up their sleeves but they are in a completely different world from MC.

I mean, even for a power fantasy it’s very very mid. At least people in SAO are all playing in SAO, just that MC plays it better than others.

From what I know, it doesn’t get any better. The S rank hunters are a joke later on and it really is Solo Leveling and Playing all the way through.


I don't remember much about SAO except for the honeymoon arc that made me finally quit that shitshow. But not once have I got the feeling that SAO was a power fantasy, or at least not a good one. But again, I don't remember much about it in the first place, and I went into SAO already disliking Kirito so my opinion on this doesn't really matter.

The other S-Hunters aren't a "joke". Them looking weak compared to the MC is the whole point of the story, and it makes sense. He can literally grow stronger infinitely, while they are stuck on a limit. What do you want to happen? MC looses his memories in a weak amnesia arc and forgets how to fight? Falls into a random coma? Ignores all problems and goes off to make babies?

The problem with the other characters is, that they didn't get much screentime to show off their power. That's what I meant with the manhwa was lacking in fleshing out some characters. But if they suddenly started getting cliche shounen power ups, for the sole purpose of keeping up with the MC, that would be a massive plot hole.

Radical_Orion said:
So, this show is basically telling you that, if you're too weak and fail at life, just die, so you'll be resurrected and granted some power from minimal effort + instant results.
Unlike characters/people who work hard to become better and see the growth, this show tells you that if you were born a Rank E, you'll fail no matter what, don't even bother trying. Your only chance to overcome it, is to be resurrected into something else and granted some easily acquired power that you magically deserve.

What a great lesson for all of us. Kids, take notes! This is exactly how life works!


Since I've seen your comment on the Ep6 discussion, you're clearly looking for some kind of deep message in this story. And that's exactly what I've been telling you doesn't exist. The story isn't trying to be deep or bring some message across, it's just trying to be entertaining. Not every story in every series has to teach you life lessons and help in changing who you are as a person.

You also clearly didn't pay attention to the story you complain about so much. Minimal effort?? Instant results?? lmao

Archdruidman said:
Yea, exactly. Being a power fantasy isn’t an excuse to lazily write characters that make no sense, a plot that is entirely based on contrived bullshit, and direction that is akin to Rian Johnson levels of horrid


Which character makes no sense?

I definitely liked it because of the story and art. I didn't like it solely because it's a power fantasy. I liked it because it's the most well done power fantasy that I've seen.


I also liked the story and the art. I also didn't like it solely because it's a power fantasy. I also liked it because it's the most well done power fantasy, that's exactly what I've been saying.
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@_otaku_man00 there are less obvious and more obvious shows like that its just so happens that solo leveling is more obvious

for me ,i like this anime because of art, confident mc , thinks before doing anything, does show mercy to those who target him and don't act all kind, and with some side characters like ant and others, it gives excitement in every chapter, doesn't feel boring if you reading for the first time . i read this manhwa for enjoyment I like all types of genres , but if it feels boring then I will quit.
it's about me bro,๐Ÿ˜Š
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@_otaku_man00 there are less obvious and more obvious shows like that its just so happens that solo leveling is more obvious

well you are correct but this anime is not about obvious but it is about making mc strongest ,so you will feel like it's obvious. all most all power fantasy are obvious if you think straight, i think
@_otaku_man00 dude making the mc the strongest is the very definition of power fantasy so its very obvious for solo leveling
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@_otaku_man00 there are less obvious and more obvious shows like that its just so happens that solo leveling is more obvious

for me ,i like this anime because of art, confident mc , thinks before doing anything, does show mercy to those who target him and don't act all kind, and with some side characters like ant and others, it gives excitement in every chapter, doesn't feel boring if you reading for the first time . i read this manhwa for enjoyment I like all types of genres , but if it feels boring then I will quit.
it's about me bro,๐Ÿ˜Š
@_otaku_man00 err how old are you? its fine if you enjoy shows like this heck i rated the manwha a 9/10 anyway so i enjoyed it for what it is too
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@_otaku_man00 err how old are you? its fine if you enjoy shows like this heck i rated the manwha a 9/10 anyway so i enjoyed it for what it is too

i am 21 , and b-tec 2nd year , IIT Madras
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@_otaku_man00 err how old are you? its fine if you enjoy shows like this heck i rated the manwha a 9/10 anyway so i enjoyed it for what it is too

i am 21 , and b-tec 2nd year , IIT Madras
@_otaku_man00 ok i guess youre indian

anyway solo leveling is high or pure power fantasy since in other power fantasy shows like any battle shonen the main characters has help from their friends or they cannot defeat the villains with their power alone which is not the case for solo leveling
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@_otaku_man00 ok i guess youre indian

anyway solo leveling is high or pure power fantasy since in other power fantasy shows like any battle shonen the main characters has help from their friends or they cannot defeat the villains with their power alone which is not the case for solo leveling

yeah, other shonen shows just drag too much, and SL doesn't , only mc can kill enemies because he is the strongest, and others are average compared to him.
like take Naruto , he goes training with jiraya for many years and became teen guy but what did he learn?? a new justu ?? nothing?? and one piece has 1000+ episode,
now i like both of them but my point is this manhwa doesn't go to another planet when the fight is going on between mc and other monsters, doesnt waste time,
i will make it clear my favourite is Naruto in big three , really really like it. i am not comparing either.
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@_otaku_man00 ok i guess youre indian

anyway solo leveling is high or pure power fantasy since in other power fantasy shows like any battle shonen the main characters has help from their friends or they cannot defeat the villains with their power alone which is not the case for solo leveling

yeah, other shonen shows just drag too much, and SL doesn't , only mc can kill enemies because he is the strongest, and others are average compared to him.
like take Naruto , he goes training with jiraya for many years and became teen guy but what did he learn?? a new justu ?? nothing?? and one piece has 1000+ episode,
now i like both of them but my point is this manhwa doesn't go to another planet when the fight is going on between mc and other monsters, doesnt waste time,
i will make it clear my favourite is Naruto in big three , really really like it. i am not comparing either.
@_otaku_man00 i do not know what your point is anymore im just saying how solo leveling is the more obvious power fantasy out of other power fantasy shows like battle shonen
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@_otaku_man00 ok i guess youre indian

anyway solo leveling is high or pure power fantasy since in other power fantasy shows like any battle shonen the main characters has help from their friends or they cannot defeat the villains with their power alone which is not the case for solo leveling

what I am trying to say is ,in the above comments you said about friendship and team work to defeat villains,I am saying is , mc doesn't need a team because he is Saitama of that world. and he has friend but they help in different ways.
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@_otaku_man00 ok i guess youre indian

anyway solo leveling is high or pure power fantasy since in other power fantasy shows like any battle shonen the main characters has help from their friends or they cannot defeat the villains with their power alone which is not the case for solo leveling

what I am trying to say is ,in the above comments you said about friendship and team work to defeat villains,I am saying is , mc doesn't need a team because he is Saitama of that world. and he has friend but they help in different ways.
@_otaku_man00 that is no excuse for it being pure or high power fantasy at all in fact youre explaining it further why its a more obvious power fantasy
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@_otaku_man00 that is no excuse for it being pure or high power fantasy at all in fact youre explaining it further why its a more obvious power fantasy

hmm, I am saying is that everyone misunderstood this manhwa , this is a power fantasy and that's a fact , "everyone is complaining about why mc is the only one becoming strong, and side characters are not growing at all even tho they are trying their best."
i have heard many people saying this ,that's why I am trying to say that , it's a power fantasy but no one can level up that's the key point, everyone knows that yet asks and discriminate this anime because mc is the only guy who is leveling up, does that even makes sense??, this story is about mc , leveling up, and yet why are all the guy talking about side character leveling up questions???
did you understand what I am trying to say??
all the people forget that this scenario itself is about not leveling of side character and whole world .
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@_otaku_man00 that is no excuse for it being pure or high power fantasy at all in fact youre explaining it further why its a more obvious power fantasy

hmm, I am saying is that everyone misunderstood this manhwa , this is a power fantasy and that's a fact , "everyone is complaining about why mc is the only one becoming strong, and side characters are not growing at all even tho they are trying their best."
i have heard many people saying this ,that's why I am trying to say that , it's a power fantasy but no one can level up that's the key point, everyone knows that yet asks and discriminate this anime because mc is the only guy who is leveling up, does that even makes sense??, this story is about mc , leveling up, and yet why are all the guy talking about side character leveling up questions???
did you understand what I am trying to say??
all the people forget that this scenario itself is about not leveling of side character and whole world .
@_otaku_man00 they got different wants on what they want to consume on a story thats all you got to respect that too

dont treat solo leveling as some sacred book that should not be criticize please let the criticism flow too as long as its constructive criticisms

but anyway we both agree that solo leveling is a power fantasy show so lets leave it at that since i do not understand anymore why we are arguing in the first place when we both enjoy the manwha too
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@_otaku_man00 they got different wants on what they want to consume on a story thats all you got to respect that too

dont treat solo leveling as some sacred book that should not be criticize please let the criticism flow too as long as its constructive criticisms

but anyway we both agree that solo leveling is a power fantasy show so lets leave it at that since i do not understand anymore why we are arguing in the first place when we both enjoy the manwha too

i will never criticize bro, they are not considering its actual plot but they are imagining their own power fantasy into this, they are not even trying to understand this ,they are trying to get a one piece and Naruto from this, its name perfectly mentioned that it's about solo leveling.
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@_otaku_man00 they got different wants on what they want to consume on a story thats all you got to respect that too

dont treat solo leveling as some sacred book that should not be criticize please let the criticism flow too as long as its constructive criticisms

but anyway we both agree that solo leveling is a power fantasy show so lets leave it at that since i do not understand anymore why we are arguing in the first place when we both enjoy the manwha too

i will never criticize bro, they are not considering its actual plot but they are imagining their own power fantasy into this, they are not even trying to understand this ,they are trying to get a one piece and Naruto from this, its name perfectly mentioned that it's about solo leveling.
@_otaku_man00 you do not want any criticism for this show that is bad
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I'm so damn fed up with people jumping on the hype train without even knowing why it's hyped in the first place and then go crying how much of a disappointment it is.

I'm saying it the for the millionth and last time:

Solo Leveling. Is. A. Power Fantasy. Story.

It's liked for its power fantasy. Not the story. Not the side characters. And also not for the art of the manhwa (tho it did certainly have a huge impact).

That being said, People who jumped on this hype expecting some big complex amazing deep story with an MC that's constantly struggling infinitely like a protagonist from the shounen genre, just leave. Stop complaining and stop watching, because that aspect of the anime won't change.

And if you don't like power fantasy to begin with, you definitely won't enjoy the anime.

We love the manwha because


I'm not saying it was perfect in every sense. They could've fleshed out some characters in the manhwa for example, which is what the anime is trying to do.

But Solo Leveling is perfect in what it tries to be... a power fantasy.

Amen

i’d personally say the art had a bigger impact than you’d expect.
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@_otaku_man00 you do not want any criticism for this show that is bad

no , it's fine if they criticize it, just see above comment, he said that "if you are born in E-rank it's over for you", did he even under that, what i wanted to say to him is that, this anime is about solo leveling up , he can't even accept that "new" concept.but instead want one piece, Naruto, and mc struggle very hard to get six packs. he wants mc struggle and work hard ,that happens in all the goddam anime, and this manhwa just doesn't need those and uses a new concept of leveling up and not leveling up.
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@_otaku_man00 you do not want any criticism for this show that is bad

no , it's fine if they criticize it, just see above comment, he said that "if you are born in E-rank it's over for you", did he even under that, what i wanted to say to him is that, this anime is about solo leveling up , he can't even accept that "new" concept.but instead want one piece, Naruto, and mc struggle very hard to get six packs. he wants mc struggle and work hard ,that happens in all the goddam anime, and this manhwa just doesn't need those and uses a new concept of leveling up and not leveling up.
@_otaku_man00 again they have different expectations or wants hence the critcisms just simply say to them to drop it if they do not want to accept solo leveling for what it is
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