| Every single arc is formatted the same way. If you had a checklist, im pretty sure every arc would have the following things: - Luffy being dumb, more focused on food than anything - Nami getting mad and hitting Luffy every other conversation - Zoro getting his ass pummeled but still winning - Luffy being absent until main villain - Usopp being a coward - Generic female side character per arc 250 episodes in now, the show is extremely predictable and feels like its just copy and pasted. No characters other than Nami have seen any type of character development. You look at other shows like HxH and MHA with a variety of different structures and themes to their arcs, and compare it to One Piece which is still doing the same thing 200+ episodes later |
ALMproduction said: I mean hey you’re 250 eps in if you really don’t like it you don’t have to keep watching. I’m pretty close to caught up with the series and I think you’re in water seven-ennies lobby I think that’s plenty to say you don’t like the show I’d say at least Finish ennies lobby at most but that’s a pretty light suggestion no pressure I don’t really know what to say other than that anime should be something you enjoy and if you don’t don’t watch the show that’s it just sucks when a show has potential and its butchered, gives me boruto-esque vibes |
| When it comes to story, characters, and worldbuilding, One Piece offers the bare minimum, and its business model is to just drag out and tease everything, typical format of a soap opera, so that only the last panel or cliffhangers might be considered progression, and even those lumped together end up being pandering with very little time given to any substance... so it's just fights and banter. Also, it employs many 'pseudos': callbacks (pseudo foreshadowings) and plot re-skins (pseudo worldbuilding) and others that might impress the lowest common denominator. |
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Mikasa said: When it comes to story, characters, and worldbuilding, One Piece offers the bare minimum, and its business model is to just drag out and tease everything, typical format of a soap opera, so that only the last panel or cliffhangers might be considered progression, and even those lumped together end up being pandering with very little time given to any substance... so it's just fights and banter. Also, it employs many 'pseudos': callbacks (pseudo foreshadowings) and plot re-skins (pseudo worldbuilding) and others that might impress the lowest common denominator. ive seen some of the later on stuff plot wise, and it really is just pseudo-worldbuilding. they move on from one group of villains, make stronger ones, rebrand their name, and repeat the cycle in a 100 episode arc. |
ALMproduction said: CickNipolla said: just sucks when a show has potential and its butchered, gives me boruto-esque vibes I mean there is the manga it’s definitely much better pacing wise and much more concise but if your problem is with the characters I don’t Know maybe if you found a character you haven’t met yet that’s kinda what made me like the show I desperately wanted to meet like brook and Kidd(who you probably don’t know) and I knew I’d like them that kinda helped me but I don’t know it might be a little expensive if you’re not pirating it but I mean it’s a show about pirates isn’t it I watched one piece film z because i thought the crew interactions were really good. although i dont think they were as interesting as sanji or nami |
CickNipolla said: Mikasa said: When it comes to story, characters, and worldbuilding, One Piece offers the bare minimum, and its business model is to just drag out and tease everything, typical format of a soap opera, so that only the last panel or cliffhangers might be considered progression, and even those lumped together end up being pandering with very little time given to any substance... so it's just fights and banter. Also, it employs many 'pseudos': callbacks (pseudo foreshadowings) and plot re-skins (pseudo worldbuilding) and others that might impress the lowest common denominator. ive seen some of the later on stuff plot wise, and it really is just pseudo-worldbuilding. they move on from one group of villains, make stronger ones, rebrand their name, and repeat the cycle in a 100 episode arc. In the post timeskip they literally just slap on Barcelona and Feudal Japan lol. Where you're at is considered the golden age by those standards, ironically. |
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| you've quiet literally only watched a little more than 20% of the show. also you gave death note a 6 and demon slayer a 8 and vinland saga a 6 and FMAB a 1... wow |
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xqcl_ said: CickNipolla said: Every single arc is formatted the same way. If you had a checklist, im pretty sure every arc would have the following things: - Luffy being dumb, more focused on food than anything - Nami getting mad and hitting Luffy every other conversation - Zoro getting his ass pummeled but still winning - Luffy being absent until main villain - Usopp being a coward - Generic female side character per arc 250 episodes in now, the show is extremely predictable and feels like its just copy and pasted. No characters other than Nami have seen any type of character development. You look at other shows like HxH and MHA with a variety of different structures and themes to their arcs, and compare it to One Piece which is still doing the same thing 200+ episodes later as a caught up guy; i can say the same shit is happening till now. actually, post-time skip arcs will be worse as a whole, all you get is a cool scene or two every arc and maybe a small hint about the one piece world. and you will not get any noticeable character development, so don't put your expectations high in that regard. but i guess try to keep watching (reading is more recommended) till marineford arc which is a good arc and my favorite in one piece and doesn't have any of the things u mentioned in the checklist. i have heard that a majority of one piece fans liked pre time skip a lot more. post time skip seems to manage to drag things out a lot |
CickNipolla said: ryzxgum said: you've quiet literally only watched a little more than 20% of the show. also you gave death note a 6 and demon slayer a 8 and vinland saga a 6 and FMAB a 1... wow Oh the classic " one piece gets good after 500 episodes " if you are truly trying to justify a story being generic for more than 40 hours of watchtime, idk what to tell u it's good from episode 1 but gets great from water 7 arc but i don't expect someone who overrates demon slayer but drops FMAB and gives death note a 6 to comprehend with that |
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ryzxgum said: CickNipolla said: Oh the classic " one piece gets good after 500 episodes " if you are truly trying to justify a story being generic for more than 40 hours of watchtime, idk what to tell u it's good from episode 1 but gets great from water 7 arc but i don't expect someone who overrates demon slayer but drops FMAB and gives death note a 6 to comprehend with that oh no i gave demon slayer an 8 not a 7 >:( almost every ranks the first 3-4 arcs at the bottom of one piece so i dont think u know what ur saying |
CickNipolla said: ryzxgum said: it's good from episode 1 but gets great from water 7 arc but i don't expect someone who overrates demon slayer but drops FMAB and gives death note a 6 to comprehend with that oh no i gave demon slayer an 8 not a 7 >:( almost every ranks the first 3-4 arcs at the bottom of one piece so i dont think u know what ur saying demon slayers a 6.5 at best. and yea that's bc the future arcs are all better than the first 4 arcs which are already good, like i said which is from water 7 arc. |
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DiomarBrasindo said: Revaxiph said: I never realised so many people dislike one piece. Not even on some biased shit but how am I seeing someone say one piece does bare minimum with story and worldbuilding? Yall on dick right now 💀 Ong 💀💀 the guy also has akame ga kill as a favourite… lmfaoooo gave mha a 9 as well💀 |
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CickNipolla said: This is getting ridiculous now. If you're going to criticize One piece for being formulaic, i'd expect the same judgement when considering HXH and FMAB. As much as i like these two shows, i can admit that they have artificial characters who are perhaps even more one-dimensional than One piece characters. HXH side characters are mostly bland. Even if I tried, I wouldn't be able to name five HxH side characters who genuinely made me emphasize with them and had enough character development to care about them. They might've had interesting personalities but they weren't explored enough as far as the anime goes. It feels like characters like Leorio, Hisoka, Wing, Chrollo, etc just come and disappear from the show never to be seen again until it's convenient to shoe horn them.Every single arc is formatted the same way. If you had a checklist, im pretty sure every arc would have the following things: - Luffy being dumb, more focused on food than anything - Nami getting mad and hitting Luffy every other conversation - Zoro getting his ass pummeled but still winning - Luffy being absent until main villain - Usopp being a coward - Generic female side character per arc 250 episodes in now, the show is extremely predictable and feels like its just copy and pasted. No characters other than Nami have seen any type of character development. You look at other shows like HxH and MHA with a variety of different structures and themes to their arcs, and compare it to One Piece which is still doing the same thing 200+ episodes later You're over 200 episodes in and you think it's only Nami who has gotten character development? Baratie arc with both Sanji and Zoro. I'd say that's massive character development with both of them. What about Usopp and Chopper in the Baroque works arc? Luffy in Long ring long land in his skirmish with Aokiji and realizes that he is still weak when he's completely obliterated by him. I'd say that's some massive character development as well. Literally all the straw hats to date have gone through some kind of character development throughout their introductions, and the majority have had the development of their characters serve as the main narrative in at least one arc. Character development in One piece comes in the form of drastic situations, backstories, and how the characters react to certain situations. You can't tell me that after watching 250 episodes you don't see much change between the main characters. I can't argue with you if you think One piece is entirely predictable as that is a subjective take. The fights are predictable, that goes for every single battle shounen. I still think there are a lot of aspects of One piece that can't easily be predicted. These vary from shocking revelations relating to the story's lore to moments that truly shook the fanbase. |
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CickNipolla said: Every single arc is formatted the same way. If you had a checklist, im pretty sure every arc would have the following things: - Luffy being dumb, more focused on food than anything - Nami getting mad and hitting Luffy every other conversation - Zoro getting his ass pummeled but still winning - Luffy being absent until main villain - Usopp being a coward - Generic female side character per arc 250 episodes in now, the show is extremely predictable and feels like its just copy and pasted. No characters other than Nami have seen any type of character development. You look at other shows like HxH and MHA with a variety of different structures and themes to their arcs, and compare it to One Piece which is still doing the same thing 200+ episodes later Most of these aren't even formats of the arcs themselves, just character personality traits. Your complaint has some merit in the case of major arcs usually having a very important female character getting introduced, usually a princess, but that's about it. Everything else is either generic anime tropes or character traits. And in the case of the latter, I'm not sure why characters displaying their personalities is a bad thing. You can't expect them to all just change. |
LoganSpirit said: CickNipolla said: this is just your bias speaking, boot licking ur fav show without any evidence to add to the discussion is pointless No it's not, you just decided you didn't like it, and that's ok, but saying that it's all the same and has terrible world building is just straight up cap. Do yourself a favor and rewatch it with your eyes open and without your obvious negative bias. considering all but 1 person has agreed with me so far, it seems im the one whos right here |
LoganSpirit said: CickNipolla said: considering all but 1 person has agreed with me so far, it seems im the one whos right here you make a thread saying shit about OP ofc most people are haters lmao right, except for the fact that most people who visit the one piece section of the forum are one piece fans, so again, youre wrong. |
| As someone said, Most of these aren't even any format Just personality trait I don't see anything wrong in it. |
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| I'd rather one piece don't follow the like of HxH or MHA, where MC always loss the fight and then get angry to instant one shot enemies. |
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it is crazy that people think theres some magical % you have to watch of a show in order to judge it. 1/4 of the show is literally still more than 99.9% of anime |
Killer-King said: aLotQuestion_ said: How many fights Gon lost and one-shotted his enemies?I'd rather one piece don't follow the like of HxH or MHA, where MC always loss the fight and then get angry to instant one shot enemies. You don't even know how many fights? Do you even watch HxH? If you don't, why the heck are you even use it as a comparison? There is no point I am telling you if you don't actually watch HxH, you likely say I am lying anyway. |
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aLotQuestion_ said: Ofc you are lying, Gon never does something like what you said. Only time he does something like that is against Pitou , which is only one time, not always.Killer-King said: How many fights Gon lost and one-shotted his enemies? You don't even know how many fights? Do you even watch HxH? If you don't, why the heck are you even use it as a comparison? There is no point I am telling you if you don't actually watch HxH, you likely say I am lying anyway. |
LoganSpirit said: CickNipolla said: less than 5% have notifications like that on, so no, you are wrong for a 4th time in this thread Not really, you're just making random percentages up lmao. Just stop and say you're a hater it's ok, no need to sugarcoat it there's loads of your type out there. right, its not that i have nearly 2k forum posts and know a lot of about the data for the website lol |
LoganSpirit said: CickNipolla said: right, its not that i have nearly 2k forum posts and know a lot of about the data for the website lol Sure, sure, you post a lot so that makes you an expert on the users and the percentage of them that have those notifications lmao. Be real mate. they frequently post MAL user stats so yes, also polls every now and then |
I shouldn't end the debate right as it's getting amusing, but really guys... I don't even visit this subforum and I've seen this thread propped up all day long. |
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