The Worst manga you've ever read

For me it's Cage of Eden.
It had great potential but had absolutely the worst characters, and the ending annoyed me. Was way too long also, could easily feel the unnecessary stretching things out.

@Loyal_Sheepling I've heard a bit about it, could you elaborate?

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Well not without spoiling so... I'll put it inside a spoiler, as the ending is the biggest spoiler, so beware.
but basically...
And also the characters are all wusses and are ultra-reliant on 2-3 characters for everything, and that's kind-of a pet hate of mine.

@Loyal_Sheepling Indeed, it looks like a bad Jurassic Park spin-off at this stage. Then you talk about dependent characters. You mean that the entire cast depends on the actions of 2-3 characters, right?

Kyo Kara MA no Tsuku Jiyuugyou - I have already made a thread about why it sucks but in short they fucked up the story in the second half so they could add more fujo-pandering and make that abusive rapist Wolfram the center of attention and write shitty Yuuri x Wolfram content.

Could list a lot, but I confine myself to a well-known, popular mangaka. I'd say Urasawa what disappointing writing concerns. With often the same recurrings flaws I dislike in a lot of his works. Lack in planning ahead, no proper solutions to his anticlimaxes + dragging intermediates and so on. He may have my money, though not my full appreciation. -g-

@Kumoiro_Shizuki It's very much like that, and yes, that's what I meant 😅

@Maou_heika So I don't know anything about Yaoi, it's not my favorite genre at all. But if I've understood correctly, they've centered the story around a rapist, a bit like Killing Stalking (if I'm not bullshitting, of course)?

@Kumoiro_Shizuki I haven't read Killing Stalking (not even interested) but from what I know it's supposed to be psychological horror but Kyo Kara MA no Tsuku Jiyuugyou outright glorifies abusive and obsessive behavior as romance. Worst part is its fans genuinely believe that it's good gay representation.

Oh boy, sometimes I wish I had never discovered this manga because it is that bad: Wolf Guy: Ookami no Monshou. (https://myanimelist.net/manga/12451/Wolf_Guy__Ookami_no_Monshou?q=Wolf%20Guy&cat=manga)

The worst part is, I can't fathom how it wasn't cancelled. I don't recommend reading it; it's truly terrible.

Tsumi to Kai, I honestly have zero idea what people see in it and the entire time I was just thinking “The ****?”

@BitChilly So I looked around a bit, and... What the hell? I saw some of the boards and some of the comments... Am I crazy or what? I saw one guy say word for word: "I like rape, but not femdom". I didn't know commu manga was so fucked up!

@VanillaCupcake82 It's very funny, because I saw it passed on reddit, this manga. So, I don't know this manga at all, it has a pretty good rating on Mal, the drawings aren't bad. I've also looked at nautiljon (a French site for manga) and I see some people adore this manga. So, what didn't you like, could you elaborate?

@Maou_heika Hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're telling me that for some fans of this manga, rape and assault of any kind is a good representation of gays? It's borderline, really. They remind me of Juujika No Rokunin fans who accept all the bizarre fantasies of this deranged author. I can see why you hate this manga

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Yeah let’s just say it gets a little…. weird. I bought the first volume for the sole reason of “yolo lol” and than read the rest online and uh, it was something.

@Kumoiro_Shizuki

It basically was just Rape the manga to put it lightly and every chapter i swear has had it in it.

I know there have been several iterations of "Wolf Guy." The original started in 1970, followed by another version in 1995. The one I read was the latest version, and it was the worst thing I've ever read.

This version glorifies rape and sexual assault, and it's just not good. The story also objectifies women, making it appealing only to someone with a taste for edgy content.

At least thats my take on it

@Kumoiro_Shizuki Fans don't even consider that scene as attempted rape, even though Yuuri clearly said no to sex with Wolfram, the panel showed him blushing so fans say that it's not rape because "he secretly wanted it" even tough he escaped and locked himself up in the bathroom right after that. Yuuri is shown to be straight for most of the series and the fans interpret as "internalized homophobia" or "being in the closet" because he was raised in "homophobic Japan". Fans also attribute and justify Wolfram's aggression towards Yuuri as Yuuri's fault for being "homophobic" and not accepting Wolfram's love till the second half of the manga. At this point I'm sick of the amount of mental gymnastics the fans play to defend Wolfram.

Hen, idk what Hiroya thinking creating abyss like that.

Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic Days
Hands down the worst thing I ever read. Totally skims over Rei being a clone of Yui and tries to make it a romance for Shinji- it's also just badly written in general and the story is super rushed.

Parallel Paradise

Genuinely an utter disgrace the author literally distilled is own shit for the making of this thing, I enjoyed Elfen Lied and Gokukoku no Brynhildr, still the story of those manga was questionable and definitely had flaws, but Parallel Paradise has no redeeming feature whatsoever, it's utterly trash plain and simple.

I struggle to imagine any of Tezuka's fans enjoying Pippy-chan or Tonkara Valley.

Mame coordinate. It was just an uncomfortable, and poorly written story, which is a shame because the art is really good

Ponkotsu ga Tensei shitara Zongai Saikyou
Kanojo okarishimasu

@Lucifrost First of all, I'd like to thank you, because thanks to you, I'm going to get into Tezuka's works.

Then, why this 2 work in particular?

@Kumoiro_Shizuki
Tonkara Valley is so boring I can barely believe it was written by Tezuka.

Pippy-chan is a mess. It's like Tezuka didn't care and was pawning off random ideas for ¥¥. Fossil Island already contained a shorter version of Pippy-chan that felt out of place. Expanding it into a full volume only makes the story worse and proves that publishers were willing to accept anything that had Tezuka's name on it.

What are you thinking of reading?

@Lucifrost Yeah, I can see why they're bad for you. Bad ones that only exist to make a profit are generally very bad.

As for my reading of Tezuka, since you seem to know the good works, I'll quote them for you:
Adolf Ni Tsugu
Kirihito Sanka
Midnight
Nanairo Inko
The Crater
Tokeijikake no Ringo
Ludwig B
Bomba!
Chikyuu wo nomu
Hi no Yama
Don Dracula
Tokeijikake no Ringo
Niji no Prelude
Kitarubeki Sekai
Alabaster
Dust 8
Flying Ben
Rags & Jewels
The And and the Giant
The Euphrates Tree

Which ones don't you recommend for a newcomer to Tezuka's world?

Well they're not all translated into English, so I assume you'll be reading them in Japanese. There is a good amount of variety in those, so I do think reading them all will showcase Tezuka's strengths. There aren't any I think are bad for newcomers in particular, though you may not wish to start with some of the edgiest titles. Of those I've read, I personally dislike Kirihito.

@mentalmondai Does this yaoi also deal with rape?

@Kumoiro_Shizuki

not really, atleast not in a romanticized way.

i just dont think there was anything redeemable about it. the story is bad, the art is bad, it was way too long, and it was gross. fujoshis will tell you its peak though lmao. i regret wasting my time reading it

Dokumushi, I felt that the manga was trying extremely hard to be this cursed thing of sorts.

@Lucifrost Thank you for your advice, my friend. For my part, I may have a chance of finding them in French editions, such as Black Box, Delcourt/tonkam or Isan Manga. So I might have a chance of finding them.

Then, concerning Kirihito, what did you dislike about it?

The story is overly cruel. It feels more like something Urobuchi would write.

There are a lot of badly written stories or ones made for some niche fetishes or shock factors and such. Not counting those because you can't have only good ones in life, you know.

Among my huge list Kanojo Okarishimasu has the lowest score - it is simply painful to read. Just how some manga get axed while this one has so many chapters is a mystery on a level of its own.

Juujika No Rokunin is actually not that far off. I've stopped reading at some point (chapter 99) but the fact that it's still ongoing scares me to no end. Was there so much to tell to begin with? Another case of "why wasn't it axed ages ago".