Sono Bisque Doll wa Koi wo Suru Season 2 Episode 12 Discussion

Let us hope with all our hearts this isn’t the last time we see our beloved characters on the medium/small screen outside of their manga source material.🤞🏼

Since this episode marks the end of this season, and I see a lot of people saying we got no development on our couple's relationship, I would like to point what I see as progression, "cosplay-wise":

1. Arisa's cosplay (the bunny girl): We see for the first time Gojou being comfortable among a large group of people, not just Marin and fellow cosplayers, and not only that, he realizes that having a kind of traumatic experience as a child does not mean he has to be ashamed of what he likes, as his new friends tenderly accepts him as part of the group, and they encourage him to keep working on the dolls he loves. We also see Marin and Gojou "facing" the idea of being a couple, as Nowa (and everyone else) thought that they were already dating. For the first time, we see Marin being more "physical" on her relation with Gojou, when shen gives him a kiss... yes, when he is in a large costume, and he thought she was clicking her tongue, but it's still something. And more importantly, we see for the first time Gojou being "possessive" over Marin.

2. Rei's cosplay: We continue with Gojou's progression as he not only has friends now, but he also is willing to rely on them, as when he asked Kensei to teach Marin "how to act manly". This arc was heavely focused on Gojou being more open to other people, so there isn't much to say about it, BUT, we have that final scene when he's looking at Marin on stage and recalls that time he "fell in love" with hina dolls. I think this is pretty important, as so far, we knew (and Gojou knew) that he felt attracted to Marin, but I think this is the time he realizes he is actually in love with her.

3. Rose's cosplay (the nuns): This arc started with Marin's misunderstanding of Gojou being all in for their relationship, and, despite some people think this was made just for the lols, I stick with Marin's own words: "Seriosuly, I'm so shocked over this, I can't get it over. I mean, I thought we'd finally be able to start going out. I should really tell Gojou-kun that I like him, that we shloud go out". THIS is the set-up for a final season, with a proper declaration from her. This is the moment Marin realizes that she can't keep going with things the way the've been so far, that she NEEDS more. She's not comfortable with just being Gojou's friend, she need them to be dating, and she's resolute of telling him her feelings, despite her being afraid of being rejected... and of course, she will not be able to do so on her first try, did you really think we were getting a confession this season? but anyway, she already put her mind on it, and it's just a matter of time now. As a bonus, I would like to point how Marin asked for Gojou's "permission" of using a bought cosplay. It was a really short scene, but I feel it's actually really important, as their whole relationship so far has been revolving around Gojou making Marin's costumes, so, in a way, this is him telling her that they can still be together, even if he's not "being useful". He just likes being around her, and this is such a subtle way of saying it.

All this makes a pretty solid season for me, and I didn't even say a word of other characters own presentation and development, the most interesting clearly being Amano, as he is kind of a grown up version of Gojou.


Add to that a flawless work from CloverWorks on animation and a marvelous OST, and I think this season is even better than the first one, which I already loved.

@PurpleMario Leave them be, people are so childish about this just because they didn't get a kiss or whatever.

I know most people acting like that are anime-only watchers so I can kinda understand but they are still in the wrong by review bombing the anime because of that , Cloverworks had the stupid idea to stop this season right when serious things were about to happen, right when we were about to start a very serious and romantic arc about just the two of them (supporting characters barely appear after coffin cosplay, only Akira gets to reappear a bit more to help Gojo for final cosplay).

By not supporting this second season and saying it's trash everywhere , Cloverworks wil not bother to do a sequel and these people will never get what they want lol.

I'm not here to spoil what happens but it's very well known at this point that if we get a season 3 it will be the last one and it's pretty obvious that if it's the last one, some good stuffs will happen in it...

Cloverworks is such a stupid studio too to have done this , I'm sorry but nobody would have complained if they took one more year or maybe two more to cover more episodes and finish this series with a second cour, there's 30 chapters left in the story, that's literally 10 episodes worth of content (season 1 reached chapter 30 on EP10) people already waited 3 years without any updates or news anyway...

Such a weird state this series is now in tbh lol.

@Saizo32 Well, as far as I know, this second season was never planned to begin with. We only got it because of how well received the first one was, and that's after it finished airing. Production takes a lot longer than people think it takes, specially pre-production is a pain in the ass, so the 3 years we had to wait for this season is a rather common time of production. Just think about OPM, which's third season already had green-light when season 2 ended, and it took 6 years for it's release. Uzumaki was also at least 5 years in production hell. Yuri on Ice's movie was cancelled after being 7 years in pre-production. It's becoming a norm this days that season are split in two parts, and for some reason that upset fans a lot, because the name "season 1 part 2" is too obnoxious compared to "season 2" (honestly, I don't get it), but that has it's origin on the planning part of production. Animation studios have nothing to do with that. To put it in simple terms, production team decides to do an "extended season" (that is, 22-26 episodes) and gives the funds to produce it (no, studios DO NOT put their own money in here, in fact, most studios are broken), but, for whatever reason, the decide is better to release it in two batches, be it because TV schedules are already taken, or as a petition from the animation studio, or as a way to create hype around the second part, whatever. Then, why didn't KiseKoi get a third season (or a season 2 part 2) confirmation already? I can't say it, because I have no idea, but it's most likely that it's still in pre-production and/or it doesn't have green-light yet. Maybe it will never get it. But honestly, production teams don't give a fuck about occidental reviewbombers, as long as it's well received in Japan, it will probably be produced. If it was for the occidental market, shows like Sazae-san wouldn't even exist. I guess that while in production of season 2 they asked the mangaka how much was left for the manga to end and took a decision from there, gave us only a small hint about the last cosplay (I have faith) and maybe they're in the planning process, thinking if it's better to do a movie or a seasonal anime for the last part. If there's only 30 chapters more to adapt, it is more likely to do so a la SnK and make two final special/movies rather than a whole season... so... yeah, I think we just have to be patient.

Oh, and about my mini-review of this season, actually, it is not my intention to prove anyone wrong. If people desperately want a kiss from Gojou and Marin, they are allowed to want it. I do too lol. I just wanted to show how plot progression and character development actually works, because, if we just got to the kiss and dating without going through the points I mentioned, it may be "satisfactory", but it would also be unrealistic. Writting takes time, you can't just skip steps to get your fans jumping from pure joy. Romance, specially, must be cooked in slow burn. And if you take in consideration the differences in culture (which you should always do, not all of us live in my beloved Latinoamerica), then KiseKoi's pace is by no means "too slow". I'm personally pretty pleased with this show's pace, and can't wait for the climax our beloved characters deserve.

This was a good season, however, I don't think I would put it above S1.

Skimming S1 and then S2 again, the reason is pretty clear. It seems like S1 had a lot more episodes focused on just Gojo and Marin (8 or 9) and a couple that were half focused on them. S2 had maybe half that, many more episodes were primarily focused on other characters.

I didn't dislike the new characters. But I tend to not enjoy shows that introduce countless characters and make them more than a background character but not fleshed out either. I would have rather the time be spent on Marin's friends, her dad, Gojo's family, etc. Akira, Amane, Miyako, etc just felt like random additions. While the show did try and give them development, their backstories took away time from the main couple. At least the show did bring back Juju and Inui, it was nice to see them again.

While I do wish we had more interactions between the main couple than we got, the moments that were there were VERY strong. Marin had some good romantic development this season. It was adorable to see her melt into nothing every episode lol. Gojo, didn't see much romantic progression but he definitely was growing in terms of becoming more confident and interacting with other people. Moments like episode 1 and the culture festival were great examples of this. I loved these moments too and imagine that it will yield to a stronger end result.

As an anime only, it's not clear whether the next (and final) source adaptation would be more like S1 or more like S2. Regardless of how it turns out, I hope we can see the final bits of the source adapted.

The coffin group cosplay was amazing and I had so much fun watching it. Even though Juju-sama initially forced herself to do it just to make her sister happy, she eventually admitted that she enjoyed cosplaying with everyone, which was really sweet. Gojo and Akira absolutely nailed the props they looked so realistic that if this weren’t anime, I’d probably feel sick just looking at them. The animation was incredible as always; CloverWorks really delivered again. In the end, Marin’s love confession didn’t happen, but I think it might’ve been too early anyway, so let’s just hope we get a third season soon.

@YoAraragi just read the manga from chapter 86 , it's 29 chapters to read you can finish in one night, Don't expect another season but there is not much content in the manga to make 12 episodes of seasons

@RoyalDemon05 It's not 29 chapters. They did not adapt 86 fully and they'll have to go back to it another way if it gets a season 3 because chapter 86 is essential to the next arc and they cut it to do their (bad) anime original scene in the final EP of S2 so they'll have to create an anime-original scene to recreate it as a season 3/movie opener (if it ever happen) which will take time.

After that, you probably didn't read the epilogue after chapter 115 (for some reason A LOT of people forget about it because it's technically not out in the US yet, it's part of Volume 15) so it's actually 31 chapters left, 31 chapters that are longer than the usual chapter length, final arc has some of the longest chapters of the series (season 1 adapted 39 chapters) chapter 87 has literally 30 pages meaning episode 1 of season 3 could literally just adapt only two chapters (chapter 86 anime-only recreated and chapter 87).

So for the 6060540604th time here, yes there is enough content for a 12 episodes season , especially if they add a bit more original content (they'll have to anyway for the very first episode of season 3).

You should read the epilogue btw, reading what you said I'm 99% sure you didn't read it lol, it could be its own final episode too.

@Saizo32 I was about to read the manga after the anime, also Don't expect another season of this anime since manga is finished and gave original selfie ending on final episode, They have completely moved on from this anime if this anime doesn't get movie or season announcement in a year then it's over

And total chapter 115 - 86 adapted chapter = 29 chapter left, my math is not wrong when I said only 29 chapters left

@RoyalDemon05 Your math is WRONG.

86 is NOT adapted , like I said (you need to read people's post) they cut Chapter 86 after adapting 2-3 pages to go right into their anime-only scene so the remaining panels of this chapter needs to be adapted because IT LITERALLY INTRODUCE THE FINAL COSPLAY you can't do a sequel without adapting chapter 86 or at least create an original scene similar to it.

So we have Chapter 86 = One chapter

Chapter 87 to go until chapter 115 = 29 chapters

29 chapters + one chapter = 30 (quick maths)

30 + The Epilogue Chapter = 31 CHAPTERS LEFT TO ADAPT

That makes it 31 chapters left and like I said some of them are the LONGEST of the series with like 30 pages, they can easily make another season out of this.

Also how do you know that they moved on from this anime ? You work at Cloverworks ? You work at Aniplex ? Nobody knows, I agree that if in one year there's nothing we will need to move on but for now literally nobody knows what the future holds, the Japanese voice actress for Marin literally said "I'll see all of you in the anime sequel" when they said their goodbyes in the final show for this season so I think she might know more stuffs than you do lmao.

@Saizo32 because it's common on every anime nowadays, after two seasons they become radio silent many years passed without any seasons announcement, I know because there is lots of anime title which never got another seasons.

Surpise end on original anime is already telling me , they done with this series