| I have yet to watch any of the female power fantasy listed, nor any villainess anime, but I assume shows like Saiunkoku Monogatari and Akatsuki no Yona count? I do like both, but I might have preference towards male power fantasy because of how cool they get sometimes, especially with all the donghua male power fantasy that I am planning to watch. China recently released a donghua called Eclipse of Illusion/Veiled Dreams, it's still ongoing, but I think this could qualify as a female power fantasy that involves female main character actually in real combat. Excited to watch that one too once it has concluded. |
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Power fantasy is such an ubiquitous, but intelligeble and unscientific term that effectively just becomes a buzzword. I mean it is often used hypocritically.
Series that are effectively feel more like power fantasies than the famous examples will not get called that (or it wont be a dominant talking point) because they're supposedly good or have been understood as such like konosuba or bunny girl senpai but all these "OP isekai" which konosuba is as well, will be stamped as that.
it's not a serious term (at least how i seen it used) and just another one of thousand ways to call something bad or trash or of lower-caste and i'm tired of this "there can be goood power fantasies tho" when they get treated the same by the discourse, are structurally similar from a story-telling standpiont, the difference between each of them is the type of audience they attract and how popular they are.
This is also the reason why female power fantasy are underresearched and can't really be identified as such because there's no discourse about them, structurally different
how is SAO a male power fantasy, which is understandable to think, kirito is a popular character to swap experiences with, but is popular with women (presumably because of asuna or other female character).
SAO is the case where people just call it that, but it only makes sense if you're dumb and don't think( which i think is where these lazy terms come from) it's even worse becuase tards see it as a genseis of this. there is isekai before and after SAO, Male power fantasy before SAO wasn't a thing, again if you're investigate it's fucking retarded.
under these standards, many anime would fit under male or female power fantasy
Series that are effectively feel more like power fantasies than the famous examples will not get called that (or it wont be a dominant talking point) because they're supposedly good or have been understood as such like konosuba or bunny girl senpai but all these "OP isekai" which konosuba is as well, will be stamped as that.
it's not a serious term (at least how i seen it used) and just another one of thousand ways to call something bad or trash or of lower-caste and i'm tired of this "there can be goood power fantasies tho" when they get treated the same by the discourse, are structurally similar from a story-telling standpiont, the difference between each of them is the type of audience they attract and how popular they are.
This is also the reason why female power fantasy are underresearched and can't really be identified as such because there's no discourse about them, structurally different
how is SAO a male power fantasy, which is understandable to think, kirito is a popular character to swap experiences with, but is popular with women (presumably because of asuna or other female character).
SAO is the case where people just call it that, but it only makes sense if you're dumb and don't think( which i think is where these lazy terms come from) it's even worse becuase tards see it as a genseis of this. there is isekai before and after SAO, Male power fantasy before SAO wasn't a thing, again if you're investigate it's fucking retarded.
under these standards, many anime would fit under male or female power fantasy
| @Flick_on It's more of a smear term used against viewers of these shows by smug normalfags that boils down to "u wish u were the MC hurrrr" and insinuating all sorts of socially undesirable character faults, such as being a virgin otaku or some other "loser." I've seen it used that way in countless conversations. I don't know how those jagoffs think they've identified the audience of "male power fantasy" anime and the reason anyone watches it but this shit has reached the point that there's almost no place where you can admit to liking one of these shows without a barrage of insults and shaming coming your way. Speaking for myself I never fantasized about having power, I just think it's funny to see the reactions of villain characters when they get squashed instantly by the MC or whoever. Overlord is the best example of that IMO. Funniest crap ever. |
| assuming ur not baiting in some way, ill answer ur question with a question.....why do u always ask stupid questions? hmm....are u this naive?? |
whichever one has more yuri, of course  |
| I don't know much about how power fantasies work in stereotypical "chick flick" works but I'd reckon it's basically the same idea just reskinned. Regardless, my take on power fantasies is that I have a hunch that I'd like it most if you just take the guy out of the center of the male power fantasy and replace him with a girl. I like female protags doing cool things, but too often I find myself running across shows where the female secondary protags do cool things but it's all surrounding a male primary protag in the center. |
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| most decent answer: depends on the writing level. but the revenge act in that female power fantasy, usually when it uses the concept, the theme of what so called "Villainess" is just an excuse. I've said it a hundred times in previous topics that this concept is nothing more than a variation of "Cinderella and the Prince". But when I say it's an excuse here (a false and stupid one obivously), it's simply the way you build the antagonist, you can build the antagonist based on greed and jealousy, without any philosophy or ideals, and then you arrange for that antagonist to have a tragic ending to please the immature readers and to worship that one-sided justice, then you're actually bullying that character. This is a typical writing style, a manifestation of ideological toxicity, and it is always present in manhwa with the theme of "Villainess" or a motif of reincarnation to another world (romance books, otome games or whatever), where the world is built from the models and regimes of old society, its history is not massive but only limited to the short-sighted perspective of the writer, because such factors are not important, all just to focus on a cheesy romance story as well as shape the fake MarySue personality of the main character. |
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