BanG Dream! Ave Mujica Episode 13 Discussion

Nah I did. What are you trying to say? That it was too fast-paced (it was), unreleastic (not really, suppressing/forgetting as a coping mechanism would explain that imo) or are you talking about something else?

Sorry I had to quote you as I'm on mobile.

The yuri appeal was definitely there but I was actually more interested in the psychological aspect of their dynamic and the characters themselves (especially Uika).

As for the plot twist, I was aware of the aunt theory before the ep even aired and completely disregarded it. So when it actually ended up being true, I was completely surprised. What about you?

@mc314159 Bushiroad probably didn't quite notice in time how far the "girl band era" they started had gone and are now trying to compete with more plot-driven franchises like Girl Band Cry. As for PICO, it would be funny to see MG and AM in a surreal chibi comedy with the other groups after all this over the top drama, lmao.

@RobertBobert I recently read on Twitter that this is the future of female band anime. In my opinion it is very debatable. An anime of bands does not make it better or worse to make it more dramatic, darker etc .... What makes it good or bad is the script. Love Live, Bang Dream and similar franchises are limited for themselves and there are certain red lines that cannot exceed. It is very different from an original anime where they can give free rein to what they want to do because they do not have a franchise To give accounts

Right, I get what you mean.

Also, I think you were misunderstanding me (tbh I wasn't very clear to begin with).

The whole aunt thing serves as an explanation and basis/origin for Uika's obsession/overdependence/love (or whatever you might want to call it) for Sakiko. Which is why it didn't disappoint me, as it served a narrative purpose.

Whether Uika views Sakiko romantically or not, is irrelevant to me (for me yuri is not only physical and/or romantic love but also deep emotional bonds/platonic love).

Loved the episode and all but damn why SO MANY big zoom on Umiri's butt 😭😭😭😭 I was so shocked I counted them-- 5! 5 SHOTS OF HER BUTT ONLY 😭😭😭
I am flabbergasted

I'm SO SO SO SO SO FUCKING SICK OF MyGO.
I'm pretty sure the title of this anime is AVE MUJICA
This is THE final episode and we wasted OVER HALF THE EPISODE for MyGO?
It also ENDED WITH MYGO and NOT Ave Mujica
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

1/10 out of spite

God what a fucking waste of time
Mortis drama ruined it
and Crychic MyGo stupid drama and forced relevance ruined it even more

Idk what big unanswered questions people are talking about. Only thing that's really a mystery is the stuff with Uika's family, but that's kinda irrelevant to the story, and wouldn't add much thematically. The play itself was basically a metaphoric conclusion of the story itself if you paid attention. Honestly this felt satisfying as a conclusion, so I didn't expect a sequel announcement.

@-Knox- The final "cure" of the characters instead of the very disturbing decision to live in a fantasy, the Togawa family, the Uika family that is directly related to the story, Umiri's subplot, the development of Nyamu's subplot, the further musical development of the two groups, a lot of things were either ignored or handled too superficially. If that's enough for you, then good for you. But it was very rushed.

@Hormigo I agree that the script itself is much more important than its tonal features. But unfortunately, we live in the new 90s, when any over the top dark, edgy and cynical things are perceived by default as more intelligent, deeper and well written. To the point that even the most cheesy and not taking themselves seriously IPs are experiencing attempts to get a dark deconstruction. Well, in AM's case, I think a lot depends on positioning. Because if you forget about Garupa and the MyGO promises of realism, Ave Mujica could easily be sold as a dark and dramatic show about a gothic metal band. I mean, in the days of Lain, Death Note and Dark Butler, it would have been a blockbuster.

@Atavistic It all depends on what direction the sequel takes the story. Although, as much as I would like to say that the show has exhausted its shock value potential, the 11th episode showed that the writers still have enough imagination for even the most unusual things.

@RobertBobert "the cure"? . I think that the problems they have will be solved over time or they will live with them and that is the message "they are teenagers and they will grow up". after all, except for mutsumi / mortis who does have serious problems, the other characters do not. Sakiko finally realized that in the towaga family she is the true matriarch and that neither her grandfather nor father can touch her. we already saw sakiko's father fixing his problems with drinking. Hatsune was always the Yuri component of this story, with nothing more to offer than his obsession with sakiko, and her sister uika was only an external element to give drama to hatsune's character, but in itself irrelevant to the story. and nyamu and umiri's problems are banal, very appropriate for their age.

@Hormigo You complain about the plot, but at the same time you call for treating it even more superficially and frivolously. Whether you see the incest yuri in this or not, Hatsune is still forced to live a fake life and be Sakiko's shadow, Sakiko can still be held hostage by her family if they don't like her behavior, Mutsumi is still mentally ill, and so on.

I think the problem is that Ave Mujica takes a very drastic step back in terms of realism and believability. Especially compared to MyGO, which makes the show seem even more cheesy.

@RobertBobert I see that my English has failed me again 😂😂. Much I say it in the form of an irony and another seriously, you have read all my comments and you know what I think but I repeat it. In this story I needed less drama and deepen the characters. The reality is that what I have exposed ironically is in the end what the writers of history have given us neither more nor less, and As you said, a sequel has been confirmed, but we do not know if it will be a movie, a full season or even a simple OVA. Could they deepen more in the characters in that sequel? Yeah , But seen the precedents I have my doubts

@Hormigo Someone in another thread said that this was announced as a season. But either way, I think the main problem is that it's too much of a drastic change in pace and tone compared to MyGO. Ave Mujica works well on its own, but after MyGO it feels like a bit of a mess of writing.

@RobertBobert If it is a season there are more possibilities for deepening the characters or simply continuing with this absurd drama without reaching anything. in that sequel that has been announced not only Enter ave Mujica, also mygo (if I understood well) so I don't know, to wait for me

@Hormigo Well, I have a hard time seeing how they can combine the realistic approach of MyGO with the soap opera of Ave Mujica. Not to mention that they would clearly be stuck in a bind because they would either have to ramp up the AM over the top drama or cut it down significantly, which would be debatable either way.

@RobertBobert Wait, I have confused myself?. I think they speak of a sequel to Mygo and another for a ave mujica. I do not understand very well, if it is separately we are talking about a season for Mygo Of 13 episodes and another for Mujica AVE for another 13 episodes. It seems to me a lot. Let's see if someone explains it

@Hormigo Both groups will get one shared sequel season, which was emphasized many times in the teaser and announcement.

@RobertBobert OK thanks. because if it is a joint sequel, the story can take many directions. From a rivalry of bands, from separating the episodes by bands and making the most dramatic ave Mujica and the Mygo Healthier. Or make the members of Mygo and Ave Mujica relate more and new stories arise. A world of possibilities opens according to the sequel tone

I wish these newer band/idol shows wouldn't spend half their time on drama and instead focused on music and girls doing musical dancing girl things. Last episode was pretty decent with the concert and ass shots were peak.

@razisgosu I wouldn't be surprised if these shows intentionally focus on drama and behind the scenes events to show that they are serious shows with a story and not "anime clip collections" as the early seasons of Love Live were once called.

@RobertBobert a true shame, Sunshine was peak Love Live for me. Bang Dream has gone down for me since PoPiPa took a backseat.

@RobertBobert OK thanks. because if it is a joint sequel, the story can take many directions. From a rivalry of bands, from separating the episodes by bands and making the most dramatic ave Mujica and the Mygo Healthier. Or make the members of Mygo and Ave Mujica relate more and new stories arise. A world of possibilities opens according to the sequel tone