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Dec 20, 4:57 AM

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I didn't like this show why it's so high rated lol there are people who like different things.
Your answer why people like this show is in spoiler tag.

Edit: Added spoiler tag and added words and changed order
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I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?

“and you don’t seem to understand”…

i’m shitting i actually laughed
Dec 20, 5:34 AM
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Personally, i like it cause the dialogue and scenes are so simple yet so confusing. The colour theme and characters expression are unsettling, also one of the rare case in anime in general that they let the viewers to think for themself before the final arc.
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I just hate it when someone makes this "slow" and "boring" argument. Sorry to say this, but maybe you haven't been watching that carefully.

Serial Experiment Lain, in addition to bringing a totally experimental and unique tone, with an interesting protagonist. It shows us all this alienation that we are currently going through with the internet, and not only that, but also very interesting concepts.... Not counting all the crazy conspiracies that this work has, the pace can even be slow (if you compare it to the works currently) but it has several interesting elements that if you watch carefully, you will catch.
Dec 20, 6:06 AM

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JackOfDeath said:
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?

What the hell is a good bait?
Dec 20, 7:43 AM

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They have different tastes in media. What you find slow, boring, and uninteresting is not perceived as such by them.

My suggestion is: watch what you can find of the show through tiktok. That should address all of your problems with it.
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Dec 20, 7:45 AM
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because they all love Lain
Dec 20, 7:59 AM
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This is genuinely my favorite anime of all time, so I came for the discussion but you seem to solely be interested in arguing. You should try to find a way to get the attention you’re looking for that’s more constructive.

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Dec 20, 8:16 AM
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The show takes it's time set itself up.
First few episodes of this show were very confusing for me, and I didn't understand what is happening till like episode 5 and 6.

But then you start to understand the deeper meaning behind the things it is showing, and how scary that actually is.

I can understand why the initial part where you don't actually understand what was happening can be boring but after you realise the meaning of the show, I don't know how can that part be anything less than mind-blowing.

The show is very much ahed of it's time, and it is becoming more and more relevant with each passing day with everything that is going on with AI.

It's that kind of a show which makes you think.

Maybe that's why you found it boaring as you never understood the bigger picture of story and the massage it was giving.

And I don't actually expect someone who gives Tokyo ghoul √A and platinum end 10 out of 10 to understand something as great as Serial experiment lain

So why did you found it boaring?
cause you are just stupid and didn't understand the story
Dec 20, 8:18 AM
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The show takes it's time set itself up.
First few episodes of this show were very confusing for me, and I didn't understand what is happening till like episode 5 and 6.

But then you start to understand the deeper meaning behind the things it is showing, and how scary that actually is.

I can understand why the initial part where you don't actually understand what was happening can be boring but after you realise the meaning of the show, I don't know how can that part be anything less than mind-blowing.

The show is very much ahed of it's time, and it is becoming more and more relevant with each passing day with everything that is going on with AI.

It's that kind of a show which makes you think.

Maybe that's why you found it boaring as you never understood the bigger picture of story and the massage it was giving.

And I don't actually expect someone who gives Tokyo ghoul √A and platinum end 10 out of 10 to understand something as great as Serial experiment lain

So why did you found it boaring?
cause you are just stupid and didn't understand the story
Dec 20, 8:24 AM

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Because it:
  • showed problems of internet usage long before they became widespread.
  • has a widely relatable protagonist.
  • has a unique atmosphere.
  • has an outstanding opening song.

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Dec 20, 8:42 AM
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Man maybe you've got to accept the show is too smart for you. It's an unfolding Avant Garde mystery series with unique direction and a great OST.

If it doesn't connect with you now it won't ever. Which is a shame, but not everything is for everyone.
Dec 20, 9:06 AM

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Whiel the Op is retarded for making a bait thread the ones who take the bait so easily and write serious and long answers are even more retarded. Learn to ignore.
Dec 20, 9:41 AM

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Damn, I wanted to shit on you but we agree on taste on a lot of stuff. You even tenned Citrus so we Citrus bros.

Older anime is slow, a lot of it has aged out--talking more like turn of the millennium stuff, like late 90s to early 2000s. Anime gotten much faster, shinier produced since then. I mean I agree with you, the slow methodical pacing of these older shows can be really hard to take, it's much easier to watch modernized anime.

However, shows like this are like a bud you spray and give enough sunshine and take care of and suddenly they blossom. You needed to give the show time to open up to you I guess. SEL is one of the very best anime ever made, the writing is masterpiece level, the story is almost perfect. It just isn't going to be shounen influenced, it's more cinematic. SEL is a lot like an indie movie versus the crack addiction that is modern anime.

But yeah I have to be in the exactly right mood for these shows, just like some long ass indie movie. Social media has broken us.
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I watched it like 3ish years ago but I think its just very visually interesting and the story is pretty cool once your immersed but I’d be lying if I didn’t feel like the God angle was an asspull and the fanbase def overstates how good it is Its and yeah they could cut out like 3 episodes imo I think its just fairly entertaining and a cool experience the first watch.
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I'll try to explain it the best way I can, but overall, it really is just a matter of taste. I liked this anime, and I can't quite explain why, I just did. I was interested in the plot, in the protagonist's story and relationships with the others, the overall vibe of anime is just really good too. >To me< it's very good.

But aside that, I think this anime is not about making you think about IT while watching it, but to watch the ep and then stop to philosophically think about real life aspects, how the internet and social media has changed our lives completely, the whole identity stuff and all. It's like the anime is just the path that leads you to think about stuff yourself, instead of thinking together with you and "teaching" you something or expecting you to agree with it. I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense to you, it's difficult to explain, because Serial Experiments Lain is an entire experience to me. Not that it was the greatest experience of my life, nor something that changed me completely. Just a good experience, that's all!
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Because it makes them look smart.
Dec 20, 10:57 AM
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JK234 said:
I just hate it when someone makes this "slow" and "boring" argument. Sorry to say this, but maybe you haven't been watching that carefully.

Serial Experiment Lain, in addition to bringing a totally experimental and unique tone, with an interesting protagonist. It shows us all this alienation that we are currently going through with the internet, and not only that, but also very interesting concepts.... Not counting all the crazy conspiracies that this work has, the pace can even be slow (if you compare it to the works currently) but it has several interesting elements that if you watch carefully, you will catch.

It is understandable that people find it slow, because of the way it handles events and character interactions; and in general, it can be said that the series does not have a narrative hook, but a thematic one, which is counter-intuitive as entertainment.

What is not justified is to say that the series is boring, because that would imply that the series lacks content, which is not the case.
Dec 20, 11:46 AM
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@JackofDeath it's ok if you don't like it
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It’s definitely not for everyone. I didn’t really start to appreciate it until I watched it for the third and fourth time.

One thing that I really like about it, aside from the impeccable vibes, is the way the story is actually a lot more unified than it seems. When you don’t understand what’s going on, it just seems like a weird string of unrelated, episodic stories. But when you do, it becomes about the knights and Eiri manipulating everything from the beginning while everyone else can do nothing about any of it (even Alice just upsets Eiri’s plan by being an unaccounted for element).

I also think the themes/ideas are very interesting and relevant. A lot of our lives now are on the internet, which I think drives the point about how “base reality” being more real is only really the case for us because we have bodies and therefore need them to use devices which access the internet; if technological progress overcomes this, the border between the two will not be clear at best. As far as all the people I know on discord go, as an example, they might as well be cartesian egos living there, and I might as well be one too as far as those interactions go.
This “living on the internet” also connects to the theme of it being a big source of information and shaping how we experience reality, and more importantly how this can become a big problem if someone has the power to control people’s perceptions. This is exactly Eiri’s plan, although more literally because a part of it is breaking the barrier completely.
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I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?

people have different tastes, if you are someone who loves the strange and unusual you would love it. this anime is really big it isn’t just another anime as it was a part of a lot of people’s childhoods, had a game, and is interesting either way. if you like philosophical stuff and deep thinking you might be inclined to liking it
let’s not forget the iconic intro
@ririsdollyeyes There is a fine line between pseudo-intellectualism and snobbery and truly profound meaning. Lane is more likely to belong to 2. But I understand those who think that this is 1
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Great social commentary on peer pressure stress from expectations all in a cyberpunk setting.
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JK234 said:
I just hate it when someone makes this "slow" and "boring" argument. Sorry to say this, but maybe you haven't been watching that carefully.

Serial Experiment Lain, in addition to bringing a totally experimental and unique tone, with an interesting protagonist. It shows us all this alienation that we are currently going through with the internet, and not only that, but also very interesting concepts.... Not counting all the crazy conspiracies that this work has, the pace can even be slow (if you compare it to the works currently) but it has several interesting elements that if you watch carefully, you will catch.

It is understandable that people find it slow, because of the way it handles events and character interactions; and in general, it can be said that the series does not have a narrative hook, but a thematic one, which is counter-intuitive as entertainment.

What is not justified is to say that the series is boring, because that would imply that the series lacks content, which is not the case.

I totally agree with you.
Dec 20, 2:45 PM

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Honestly? Same.
I invite all people on this thread to do to me what they're doing to OP.

It's been years since I watched it, so I mostly forgot all the scenes where nothing happened, while still remembering some of the scenes I liked, so you could say I "like the anime more nowadays".
But it's a fact that it has very little in terms of a plot (The one it has being very explicit, though not going anywhere), many scenes are just Konaka doing whatever he wanted, I don't see the appeal of it, why do people like it?

InB4: >"It le predicted le internet"
People seem to forget that Japan already had internet forums for years at that point, and if that's the argument, then technically so did the original 2002 SAO novel.

>"It's not your thing"
I liked Malice@Doll, Boogiepop wa Warawanai, Sonny Boy and Kaiba, it SHOULD have been my thing.

>"It had good scenes"
I know? But the majority of it isn't like that.
The same criticism I give to Turn A Gundam.
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I can't speak for everyone, but I like it because for something nade in the 90s, it's themes are more relevant and important than ever now, much in the same vein as works such as Fahrenheit 451 for example. It's presentation fits into the 'denpa' genre which is akin to avant garde nor mindfuckery, which I enjoy. Sometimes the visuals and "nothing moments" speak for themselves and the vibe is both liminal and uncanny, gothic and eerie. Not every show needs 24/7 action or dialog, and when a show realizes that I really get into it. I will admit the first few episodes are a bit slow, but after about the 3rd episode I started getting into it and enjoying the ride. It's one of those series that is purposely confusing in order for tge viewer to be the one to put tye story together the way they interpret it, which is something than not everyone is into, but is a niche for a lot of people. It's just one of the classics that, nowadays either aged like fine wine or like milk depending on who you ask. Considering it's commentary that essentially predicted modern internet culture, I think it aged like the former.
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cause it's awesome
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JackOfDeath said:
@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad

after looking at your reviews I don't think that's true. this post just comes off as some bored teenager trynna bait people into arguing.
Dec 20, 4:15 PM

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It's ok if it's 2deep3u bro. You need to have a high IQ and a killer Arch setup to understand
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Probably due to this anime’s uncanny similarities to the internet today. This anime basically predicted the negative effects of the internet as we know it before the internet was even mainstream. I think the way the writing style is presented and the soundtrack (like the constant static sounds in the background) give off this unsettling and eerie feeling whenever you’re watching it.

But the overall appeal of the anime is the mystery of it. It’s definitely confusing the first time watching and I gotta admit, I also didn’t really enjoy it the first time. But after several rewatches I’ve come to enjoy and understand this anime. It’s one of those shows that even after 100 rewatches, you are still guaranteed to learn something new every time.

Even today, many people are still analyzing this show and finding new messages and details within the show, and that’s one of the things that many people love doing.
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Because it’s weird and has a dope OP
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Because its awesome.
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Lain is an anime well liked for its relatable and antisocial protagonist as well as for its complicated and intricately woven plot with an incredible amount of hidden meanings and details. I personally only completely understood the plot on a third watch.

A lot of its plot is also relevant to the topic of the internet and how omnipresent it has become in our lives, which a lot of people can relate to and find interesting to talk about. Especially since it was made at a time when the internet wasn't nearly as widespread as it is today.

You don't have to like it, that's fine. It's definitely a more "avant-garde" and "artsy" show, which some may call pretentious.
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JackOfDeath said:
So why is it so highly rated

"I cannot comprehend it, it blows my mind so it must be a work of genius" - while in reality it is a nonsensical collection of meaningless but visually stimulating scenes.
"It is trying to be a deep anime, so if I rate it low or say it's boring people will mark me as an idiot".

Shows like these are made for the average dimwits who cannot distinguish between something that's profound and something that's pretentious.

Read my review of Lain.
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Why do people feel the need to post things like this?
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@ririsdollyeyes I like the strange and unusual? I like philosophy and deep thinking as well? The Anime is literally just bad

i watched the 1st ep like 2 years back, thought it was ass. watched it again this year, it was incredible. tastes are different and sometimes a shw has yet to fit you
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@WestOnAndrewAve gotcha so it's entire fan base is a bunch of teenagers that didn't exist in the 90s?

Question. Why are you an ass? What are you tryin to prove to yourself here?
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Most people don'T know it but Lain was the only anime that made a reference to Proust until Psycho Pass came along, which shows it actually takes a bit of education and intellectualism to appreciate Lain for what it is.
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@traed all you can do is try to personally attack me whether it's the genres I've watched or my attention span? Maybe I just don't want to waste my time on a show so bland and boring that you regret starting it to begin with

everyone is entitled to their own opinion. don't like SEL? might I suggest rewatching haganai, since you love it so much that you gave it a 10? oh wow a harem anime with hot characters and they're all fighting to get together with the protagonist. how original and exciting!

Look, I'm not trying to defend SEL here, but what purpose might you seek from asking these questions and then arguing with people's answers? everyone has different tastes. maybe they like the vibe, maybe they like how absurd it is, or maybe they found a hidden meaning in how SEL portrays the whole concept of "connecting the world". mind you, this came out in 1998 when the thought of being able to "connect the world" through technology hasn't even crossed most people's minds
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I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?

exactly i think the same bruhh
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Feeling lost, figuring out the plot and coming up with your own interpretations are part of the fun. That's also not necessarily my cup of tea, but I still enjoyed the series for having such an immersive atmosphere. It was surprisingly relaxing.

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JackOfDeath said:
I Started This Anime About a Year Ago And JUST Finished It. It Was Slow, Boring and overall Uninteresting. So why is it so highly rated? Why are people so obsessed with it? Can someone explain how this is actually a good anime?

I understand you completely, I finished it only with sheer willpower because it was, according to me, really awful.
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Im on episode 5 and this anime is a interestingly weird one :)
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Honestly? I don't like it either. I think it's overhyped and pretentious. But you're taking way too much of your time to bash something you don't like and discredit anyone who has a different opinion.

Get something better to do, touch some grass.
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My friend, you have to remember that this is YOUR opinion. For other people, the episodes may pass quickly..
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I find it somewhat pretentious, personally I liked Texhnolyze more.
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Moltas said:
Why do people feel the need to post things like this?

I guess everyone who encounters Lain at this point wants to give it a shot and feel the uniqe vibes like the hc fans whom cannot stop loving Lain, but the magic does not happens all the time and then some people just feel left out like they missed something in it and that can be frustrating.

For me it was the same with Higurashi where, as I see basically nothing happened. Never understood the hype on that.
Did I shout out about how mediocre it is? No.
(Not like this poster did this in the first place but the heavily critical sub posts always appear when someone posts about Lain.

I have never seen so many threads about any other show where people would actually write an essey like how they did not like it…

For me it prooves the fact that Lain is just exceptional even after all these years.
And I think thats awesome.
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@Rishon007 that's me debunking everything you said! Hope that helps

are you delusional or just pretending to be one? how exactly is it debunking when you didn't even prove anything?
yh, it tackled the themes of internet, technology, and its effects in the 90s, and they are more relevant today than when it was made? almost like it predicted the future. and the fact that a show from the 90s was able to do it makes it even more impressive. cuz i can't think of any other show that did anything like this. not sure what you were trying to prove by quoting "iNtERneT" three times when it's the show's focal theme.
the shots point just made it clear that you watched it with your eyes close. thanks for that clarification.
"the mysterious introverted girl", more like a girl descending into madness and developing multiple personalities and unable to decipher what's real and what's not thanks to the effects of the wired (the internet in today's world). which is again very impressive for the time it was made cuz this could literally be happening right now. maybe try to understand what you are watching and not make baseless surface level observations.
"Couldn't come up with an actual story" how about you actually pay attention to what you are watching instead of crying in forums and denying every reply. this point just proves that you are incapable of thinking and forming your own interpretation. or are you saying that you just want to be spoonfed every single detail to satisfy your tiktok brain?
if you thaught the show was boring, you had your chance to drop it and leave it there.
I recommend rewatching it with your eyes and brain open.
@Rishon007

The guy asked for an explanation of why people like this show. You then sarcastically strawmanned him as simply complaining that people liked this show. He asked for an explanation and you gave a cursory overview of its themes but didn't elaborate then shifted the burden of proof on him. And in this last reply you didn't elaborate much more either, falling back on the claim that SEL simply tackles these themes but not naming any specific plot points that do so. You are the one making baseless surface level observations if that is all you can say about a show that supposedly talks about what is happening right now. Supposedly you thought and came up with your own interpretation because unlike him you don't have a tik tok brain. So tell me, what EXACTLY is SEL saying about the internet and technology? What did SEL predict?

And if you say the generic thing of, now people are addicted to their screens more than ever, 1) SEL doesn't show the process of how Lain gets addicted to the internet; she simply claims that her friends on the internet are much better than the real world but we don't see the formation of those relationships. 2)SEL basically treats technology as magic where reality and the internet merge because Chiaki Konaka says so via some schumann resonance plot device. We don't know where Lain's multiple personalities come from; yes, people show a different persona online than in real life, but Lain's personas appear to be preexisting. SEL may get it generally and figuratively right that people are much more immersed in the internet now, but it almost completely misses the mark in terms of HOW and WHY that happens by treating technology and the internet as some sort of supernatural phenomenon. I think rather than SEL being some incredible predictor of the future, Chiaki Konaka is some deranged conspiracy theorist whose irrational wholesale fear of the internet just happened to have some partial truth to it.
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I just hate it when someone makes this "slow" and "boring" argument. Sorry to say this, but maybe you haven't been watching that carefully.

Serial Experiment Lain, in addition to bringing a totally experimental and unique tone, with an interesting protagonist. It shows us all this alienation that we are currently going through with the internet, and not only that, but also very interesting concepts.... Not counting all the crazy conspiracies that this work has, the pace can even be slow (if you compare it to the works currently) but it has several interesting elements that if you watch carefully, you will catch.
@JK234 lain is not an interesting protagonist.
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