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Kean said:
I’ve one question about the 4th episode: to prepare for the fight with Kenshin, Sano did some research about his past even by going to Kyoto. But…

So, because i don’t quite remember the first part of the manga, there is some difference in it or is just a little continuity/characterzation error?


It was the same in the Manga , but it can indeed be seen as an incoherence.

However , he also took 2 weeks to go to Kyoto for his research , so it's possible that he also got lost at that time...
We know that the Kyoto Arc happens in the span of 3 months , but i don't remember them giving us a precise timeline of the events in it.

So it's not clear , but since the Kyoto Arc was not planned when the Tokyo Arc was ongoing , it's most probably just an oversight of Watsuki.
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Kean said:
I’ve one question about the 4th episode: to prepare for the fight with Kenshin, Sano did some research about his past even by going to Kyoto. But…

So, because i don’t quite remember the first part of the manga, there is some difference in it or is just a little continuity/characterzation error?


It was the same in the Manga , but it can indeed be seen as an incoherence.

However , he also took 2 weeks to go to Kyoto for his research , so it's possible that he also got lost at that time...
We know that the Kyoto Arc happens in the span of 3 months , but i don't remember them giving us a precise timeline of the events in it.

So it's not clear , but since the Kyoto Arc was not planned when the Tokyo Arc was ongoing , it's most probably just an oversight of Watsuki.

Understood, thanks. This little inconsistency could have been fixed in this remake, but whatever
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Thanks for this useful thread. What do you guys think? Will the first 24 episodes completely cover the Tokyo arc,
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Rurouni said:
Will the first 24 episodes completely cover the Tokyo arc,


Definitely.

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Alexioos95 said:

That's what I've been thinking too. At this rate, season 1 could end up covering the Shingetsu village mini-arc in the last few episodes.
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So how many episode do you guys think it will take to adapt everything?
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So how many episode do you guys think it will take to adapt everything?


Between 70 and 80.

With a perfect pacing , that takes the time to build-up the ambiance and tension in some scenes without being slow , i believe 81-84 episodes would be the best. But it's extremely more likely that they'll do 72 Episodes. (3 Seasons of 24)

There is also the Sequel Manga , which Aniplex apparently want to adapt.
So it would make 24+ more episodes , since it's still ongoing.
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Updates : Notes for Episode 12 has been added !
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Alexioos95 said:
For those who are unaware, this Anime is a "Remake" of the 1996 one.
The latter didn't completely adapt the Manga, so we hope to get multiple seasons of this "Remake" to do so.

This season will run for 24 Episodes, but we don't know how much content they plan to adapt.
The Author actively took part in the production of this adaptation, and did a few alterations and add-ons, that he wished to do but couldn't during the publication of the Manga.

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In this thread, i'll list which chapters are adapted by each episode, on top of pointing out all altered or skipped content.
But before that, i invite you to read this tour of the Rurouni Kenshin franchise, explaining every entry : https://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=891629
It was originally present in this post, but i had to remove it, due to the character limit i will most probably hit.
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For those who want, here is a Google Sheets. (Attention, notes are summarized and not hidden !)

Episode 01 : Chapter 01.

Episode 02 : Chapter 02, few pages of 03.

Episode 03 : Chapters 03, 04, a page of 05.

Episode 04 : Chapters 05, 06.

Episode 05 : Chapters 07, 08, few pages of 09.

Episode 06 : Chapters 09, 10, 11.

Episode 07 : Chapters 12, 13, 14.

Episode 08 : Chapters 15, 16, half of 17.

Episode 09 : Chapters 17, 18, 19.

Episode 10 : Chapters 20, 21, 22.

Episode 11 : Chapters 23, 24, 25, few pages of 26.

Episode 12 : Chapters 26, 27, half of 28.

Episode 13 : ?

Note that I haven't listed all of the alterations or original content that are due to the difference in medium, such as the way Kenshin moves his scabbard, or the pictures used to illustrate what the characters are talking about.
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Don't hesitate to make a post, like that the thread will be bumped, and more people will be able to read it.
If you have any questions about the franchise, or some suggestions about this thread, you can @ me.

Dam bro so much details 💀💀
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Apratim said:
Dam bro so much details 💀💀


The devil is in the details. =)

Do you think i should mark the important changes by making them bold ? (There won't be many of them tho.)
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Apratim said:
Dam bro so much details 💀💀


The devil is in the details. =)

Do you think i should mark the important changes by making them bold ? (There won't be many of them tho.)

Ya bold would be better for important stuff 👌🏻
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Apratim said:
Ya bold would be better for important stuff 👌🏻


Done !
Don't hesitate to give me a feedback on it.
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thank you so much for this thread!
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Thank you so much for this topic! I like this remake so much! I haven't seen the original, hope that this series will fully adapt all the manga! There is a sequel manga that is publishing now by the way. I plan to read it after the main series.
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Love the detail you've put into this thread, just here to signal boost
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they have been doing quite a slow pacing i keep wondering whether or not we will end up getting 4 seasons 🤔
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-Arrows- said:
they have been doing quite a slow pacing i keep wondering whether or not we will end up getting 4 seasons 🤔


Ah ? I personally find the pacing to be very good... Edit: After this Season ended, i can say that they suddenly made a little rush for the last few episodes... a shame.

A lot of things happen in a short period , and there is always an interaction between the characters , so it can even feels fast paced at times.
If you find it slow paced now , you risk to have difficulties later , as this Arc is definitely the most fast paced one of the 3.

As for if we'll get 4 Seasons... everything will depends on the Kyoto Arc.
It's 104 Chapters long , so if they keep this pace , they will need 35 Episodes to adapt it... (Which is very good , and exactly what fans want.)
But 35 Episodes... seems extremely unlikely with the production of Animes nowadays , 24 is more believable... And if they really do that , i think they'll get a lot of backlash , atleast from the foreign community... (Which already happened in 2011 , with the Shin Kyoto-hen OVAs.)
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they have been doing quite a slow pacing i keep wondering whether or not we will end up getting 4 seasons 🤔


Ah ? I personally find the pacing to be very good... Edit: After this Season ended, i can say that they suddenly made a little rush for the last few episodes... a shame.

A lot of things happen in a short period , and there is always an interaction between the characters , so it can even feels fast paced at times.
If you find it slow paced now , you risk to have difficulties later , as this Arc is definitely the most fast paced one of the 3.

As for if we'll get 4 Seasons... everything will depends on the Kyoto Arc.
It's 104 Chapters long , so if they keep this pace , they will need 35 Episodes to adapt it... (Which is very good , and exactly what fans want.)
But 35 Episodes... seems extremely unlikely with the production of Animes nowadays , 24 is more believable... And if they really do that , i think they'll get a lot of backlash , atleast from the foreign community... (Which already happened in 2011 , with the Shin Kyoto-hen OVAs.)
@Alexioos95, I hope that they fully adapt all the manga. It is a classic series that NEEDED TO BE ADAPTED WITH CARE AND ATTENTION TO DETAILS.
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Alexioos95 said:
-Arrows- said:
they have been doing quite a slow pacing i keep wondering whether or not we will end up getting 4 seasons 🤔


Ah ? I personally find the pacing to be very good...
A lot of things happen in a short period , and there is always an interaction between the characters , so it can even feels fast paced at times.
If you find it slow paced now , you risk to have difficulties later , as this Arc is definitely the most fast paced one of the 3.

As for if we'll get 4 Seasons... everything will depends on the Kyoto Arc.
It's 104 Chapters long , so if they keep this pace , they will need 35 Episodes to adapt it... (Which is very good , and exactly what fans want.)
But 35 Episodes... seems extremely unlikely with the production of Animes nowadays , 24 is more believable... And if they really do that , i think they'll get a lot of backlash , atleast from the foreign community... (Which already happened in 2011 , with the Shin Kyoto-hen OVAs.)

adapting kyoto arc with 24 episodes is pretty doable imo.
also, this season seems to be covering up until kenshin arrives at shingetsu village which is technically already in kyoto arc territory.

season 2 would kick off with the first confrotation with jupongatana (vs soujiro)

then season 3, is jinchuu arc with 24 episodes. again very doable since jinchu is shorter than kyoto but still gets the same lenght of episodes since its never been adapted before
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Alphchan said:
adapting kyoto arc with 24 episodes is pretty doable imo.


Doable , yes.
But a lot of scenes will have to get a faster pacing then , and i'm not sure where it would be going like that...



Alphchan said:
also, this season seems to be covering up until kenshin arrives at shingetsu village which is technically already in kyoto arc territory.


That's what i believed too at first , but not anymore.
With the current pacing , it'll probably ends just after Shishio's first appearance.


Edit : Nevermind , i thought you said after the Shingetsu Village , and not "arrives". My bad. I think it will ends just before it tho.
And well , Shingetsu Village is part of the Kyoto Arc , just like Saito's sub-Arc. (Or atleast , according to the fan's repartition.)

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then season 3, is jinchuu arc with 24 episodes. again very doable since jinchu is shorter than kyoto but still gets the same lenght of episodes since its never been adapted before


I agree with that.
Jinchuu is slightly shorter than Kyoto , and there is more fights , so 24 Episodes really does seems good.
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Updates : Notes for Episode 15 has been added !
As expected, they are skipping a lot of the dialogues to fit the whole sub-Arc in 3 Episodes.
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Updates : Notes for Episode 15 has been added !
As expected, they are skipping a lot of the dialogues to fit the whole sub-Arc in 3 Episodes.
@Alexioos95 Very interesting that they are doing some stuff differently, been a while since I read the manga, thanks for the info.

I knew some things weren't quite as I remembered.
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@Alexioos95 Very interesting that they are doing some stuff differently, been a while since I read the manga, thanks for the info.

I knew some things weren't quite as I remembered.


For this episode , it was mostly dialogues being skipped/altered.
Some details of the duels were also changed , to be more serious. (For example , Raijuta breaking his shinai with his force , or Kenshin using a bokken.)
But overall , it's still very faithful to the Manga.

However , it was announced in an interview after Episode 01 that they changed a few things to this sub-Arc , because Watsuki (and even the majority of the fans) wasn't satisfied with it. And actually , even the 1996s Anime had already altered it a lot because the director was feeling the same.
So i'm expecting a few alterations in Episode 02 , and more in Episode 03. Edit: In the end... they did almost no changes.
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Thanks for this detailed and amazing thread bro. You are a true Rurouni kenshin fan. Hope you are enjoying this adaptation. :)
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Hope you are enjoying this adaptation. :)


I do , even if everything is far from perfect.

If they do multiple seasons , i hope they'll do better.
They can do so much incredible things with the Kyoto/Jinchuu Arcs !
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When will Kyoto arc start ?
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When will Kyoto arc start ?


Its Prologue will begin with Episode 19, and last for the rest of the Season.
Edit: In the end, they padded a few episodes to end on a very important scene. The Kyoto Arc started with Episode 22.
However, the "real beginning" of the Arc won't be before Episode 01 or maybe 02 of the 2nd Season (if it gets announced).
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Fantastic breakdown!
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Thanks for doing these comparisons. I definitely missed a few differences for episode 23. Always interesting when the anime chooses to do something differently. While I'm glad they aren't changing too much, I'm also glad they adapted some things differently.
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Where do you think this series will end? Will it end at
or is that something that might be included in a potential second season? Not sure if I'm emotionally ready for "that scene" yet.
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Where do you think this series will end


Well , there is only 1 Episode left. I really don't see how they could not end with the departure scene now.
They even (most probably) adapted Act Zero (with a lot of Anime-originals content) only to fill episodes 20 & 21 to end on this very particular scene.
And with the narrator's sentence , it's a very powerful moment for a season's end.
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How many of these 2-cour seasons might they need to adapt the entire manga and possibly cover some spin-offs or additional chapters from the author?
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How many of these 2-cour seasons might they need to adapt the entire manga and possibly cover some spin-offs or additional chapters from the author?


Ideally, we would need 5 more cours to cover the Main Story. We'll probably only gets 4 (so 2 more Seasons), tho.
The Sequel Manga is still ongoing, but with currently a little bit over 50 Chapters, there is enough for 2 more cours.

As for the Extra Chapters, they are all shorts, so there is no need for a lot of episodes.
One is about Makoto Shishio, so 1 episode in the 2nd Season is enough. The 2 Epilogues are shorts, so 1 episode at the very end of the series is also enough. The Prototypes really doesn't fits the rest of the series, so if they didn't adapted them here, i don't see them being adapted, at all.

There is also the Kamiya Dojo Monogatari Novels, which are a lot of little side-stories. They alone, can easily fill 2 more cours... but it would be a huge surprise to see them adapted.
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So, are you suggesting that they could easily fit into 5 seasons or so, and a movie or spin-off series is unlikely?
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So, are you suggesting that they could easily fit into 5 seasons or so, and a movie or spin-off series is unlikely?


If they want to adapt everything (the Main Story, the Sequel, and the Novels), then yes. 5 Seasons is very easy to fill.
I don't see what they could do in a Movie format, so i doubt we'll see that in this franchise. (Unless they choose to split the Final Arc in parts...)

But i'm not expecting them to adapt the entirety of the Sequel (atleast in the few next years), and i would be extremely surprised if they touch the Novels. At this point, i'm expecting 3 Seasons of 24 Episodes for the Main Manga (so 2 more), and a Season of 12 Episodes to start the Sequel.
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So, are you suggesting that they could easily fit into 5 seasons or so, and a movie or spin-off series is unlikely?


If they want to adapt everything (the Main Story, the Sequel, and the Novels), then yes. 5 Seasons is very easy to fill.
I don't see what they could do in a Movie format, so i doubt we'll see that in this franchise. (Unless they choose to split the Final Arc in parts...)

But i'm not expecting them to adapt the entirety of the Sequel (atleast in the few next years), and i would be extremely surprised if they touch the Novels. At this point, i'm expecting 3 Seasons of 24 Episodes for the Main Manga (so 2 more), and a Season of 12 Episodes to start the Sequel.
@Alexioos95 I meant 5 including this one. As for the sequel, I have long had before my eyes the example of Shaman King, when the remake almost immediately turned into the announcement of a sequel from the same team and cast.
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I meant 5 including this one.


Yeah, i edited my post. x)

I really don't see them touching the Novels, tho...
That seems so unlikely. But again, they did added Act Zero in this Season... so who know.

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As for the sequel, I have long had before my eyes the example of Shaman King, when the remake almost immediately turned into the announcement of a sequel from the same team and cast.


That'll probably be the same for Rurouni Kenshin. Aniplex already said that they wanted to adapt the Sequel.
Part of the justifications for this re-adaptation is probably to sell the animation of the Sequel better.
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Yeah, i edited my post. x)

I really don't see them touching the Novels, tho...
That seems so unlikely. But again, they did added Act Zero in this Season... so who know.

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As for the sequel, I have long had before my eyes the example of Shaman King, when the remake almost immediately turned into the announcement of a sequel from the same team and cast.


That'll probably be the same for Rurouni Kenshin. Aniplex already said that they wanted to adapt the Sequel.
Part of the justifications for this re-adaptation is probably to sell the animation of the Sequel better.
@Alexioos95 Do you mean selling a sequel immediately after a remake of a popular anime, rather than suddenly announcing a sequel to an old incomplete adaptation?
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Do you mean selling a sequel immediately after a remake of a popular anime, rather than suddenly announcing a sequel to an old incomplete adaptation?


Yeah.

That's probably one of the points which pushed them to produce this "Remake". Another one (the obvious one), is the huge popularity and success of the last two Live-Action Movies. From what was said in interviews, the production of this Season started in 2019, so around the same time as their announcements...
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Do you mean selling a sequel immediately after a remake of a popular anime, rather than suddenly announcing a sequel to an old incomplete adaptation?


Yeah.

That's probably one of the points which pushed them to produce this "Remake". Another one (the obvious one), is the huge popularity and success of the last two Live-Action Movies. From what was said in interviews, the production of this Season started in 2019, so around the same time as their announcements...
@Alexioos95 So, as Kenshin and One Piece show, a successful live action adaptation can really liven things up for anime? I don’t know if this had an impact, but I heard that Zom 100 and a couple of other new anime also had popular live action adaptations before.
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So, as Kenshin and One Piece show, a successful live action adaptation can really liven things up for anime?


Well, yeah.

Because if a Live-Action adaptation is successful and makes money... there is no reason an Anime adaptation couldn't too.
The producers are therefore more confident of their chances, and finance the project more easily. Everything is a question of money, especially for such companies.

Now, Rurouni Kenshin and One Piece were already big franchises, with huge success behind them... I don't think financing a new entry in them can have the same risk as a new series, be it in Anime or Live-Action.
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So, as Kenshin and One Piece show, a successful live action adaptation can really liven things up for anime?


Well, yeah.

Because if a Live-Action adaptation is successful and makes money... there is no reason an Anime adaptation couldn't too.
The producers are therefore more confident of their chances, and finance the project more easily. Everything is a question of money, especially for such companies.

Now, Rurouni Kenshin and One Piece were already big franchises, with huge success behind them... I don't think financing a new entry in them can have the same risk as a new series, be it in Anime or Live-Action.
@Alexioos95 Fortunately, we have outgrown the time when shoujo and josei were mostly adapted into live action formats in general.
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Updates : I've largely re-written all the notes.

This includes removing typos, adding points i missed, removing or changing inexact ones, and merging some points which could.
I tried using diverse words inside of the notes, did more developed sentences for the previous adaptation's comparisons, slightly redesigned the Google Sheets (even if i'm still not satisfied with it...), and removed my unquoted Updates posts (which were only made to bump the thread each week).
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Poll: » Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Kenkaku Romantan (2023) Episode 19 Discussion ( 1 2 )

Stark700 - Nov 9, 2023

57 by Kurusu_kun »»
May 10, 12:13 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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