[Spoiler] Fuck Futoshi for being the annoying idiot he is, Kokoro did well.

Epicenter said:
He isn't a cuck, he didn't find enjoyment from it, nor did he stand idly by. You're right that it isn't Mitsuru's fault, or even problem.

Futoshi is a simp, and nobody should feel bad for him, especially when he attacked Mitusru and told him to protect Kokoro when Kokoro is the one who lied to him.

The only thing is, you seem to think Kororo didn't trick him. This wasn't one sided. She made a promise, she didn't have to, Futoshi had never shown dangerous signs, so it's not like she was afraid of him and she always could of told him no. In fact, in past episodes she has continuously been nice to him, even inviting him to the girls table when Zero Two took his place on the man's stable. The others have also said they get a long like a married couple. He had reason to trust her, and believe she liked him. Still, he is a pathetic person, he doesn't even know where to direct his contempt.

TheGrandSage23 said:


She was being nice to him..Nowhere in the series did it show her being the slightest bit interested in him

fedos said:
Who the hell asks for a promise like that and in such a pushy smothering manner in the first place? It's the worst way to ask for someone's feelings, especially someone with Kokoro's personality. Yes it's her fault partially, but we also know her agreeable non confrontational personality is her major character flaw. She's always been playing nice. And it took her a while to work up to really being honest about what she wants. She did it, it was mess and imperfect and she knows she's done wrong by him. But she's not a monster, she has her flaws. She played along when he put her on the spot because with a lack of self awareness of how aggressive he was put that on her.

She also likely never though switching was ever possible.

Epicenter said:


Like i said, the others said they acted like a married couple. Even she, in the episode, said she isn't a good person and broke a promise, she knows she led him on. It would be one thing if she didn't promise him anything, but if you're nice to someone and you make promises to them to be their partner, there is no excuse.
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People who defend her like she didn't betray him, even though she herself said so in the very episode, are just as pathetic as Futoshi is. Now it's fine to like a character who has complex personality, and understand that love doesn't work like you want and she loved Mitsuru, but to pretend like she didn't lie and doesn't have agency in her betrayal is white knight/simp behaviour.

QcK_Dagger_HeaT said:


I'm with the OP. KOKORO'S my spirit animal the way she tossed the trash aside the first chance she got 😂😂😂. Kokoro might have landed in the top ten anime backstabs of all time and I'm ok with it.

The OP had a valid point, she thought she would be stuck with Futoshi forever so she wanted to be as nice as possible to make being partners with each other easier and not akward. If this is your partner for years to come and you say no to that promise it would make for a weird tense situation.

Futoshi is a lame dude for throwing all his bs on top of Kokoro the way he did. Futoshi was way to needy and clingy around Kokoro and it was a bit inauseating. However a once in a lifetime opportunity came for Kokoro that would make her happier and she took it. It's just funny how everyone wants to feel bad for Futoshi and paint Kokoro as the bad person. I think to many people on MAL see themselves as Futoshi in a relationship situation and last out due to past experiences 😂.

Epicenter said:


I don't feel bad for him, he's pathetic, and had it coming. I'm just not a fan of the general lack of accepting wrongs done, all the other couples are teams, none of them go around lying and leading each other on like she did with Futoshi. And clearly her issues weren't about team work, Futoshi IS STILL IN THE SAME GROUP AS HER, they still will have to work together on the battlefield even if she is partnered with Mitusru so your theory would be dumb because if she's concerned about awkward she wouldn't have betrayed someone on her team. And as seen in this episode, he's too much of a simp to be upset or awkward with her based on anything she does, she showed no signs of being afraid of how their team would be if she didn't make the promise....but she did say she betrayed him.

You just refuse to be objective, in a twisted way you don't even see how you're just like Futoshi, looking at her through rose tinted glasses. Just like Futoshi, you can't see any faults in her. Just like Futoshi, you rather put all the blame on someone else.

QcK_Dagger_HeaT said:


First that last line wasn't geared toward you at all that was more what I took in from a lot of other seriously butt hurt people on the forums you didn't come off that way.

Although I don't see Kokoro through some rose lins at all. I see her as an opportunist Savage which is why she could be my spirit animal. She betrayed him but instead of worrying about that she did what was best for her and I Love that. She was wrong and she felt a little remorse about it later however she went out of her nice girl shell and did what she felt was best for her.

Although working together on the battle field when everyone's life is on the line vs working together in the same robot are to different things. Her performance is 3x better with Mitsuru than it is with Futoshi because she isn't interested in Futoshi but is in Mitsuru. So I would disagree that some of the issue was there teamwork. She knew her comparability with Futoshi was low.

Epicenter said:


At least you see her betrayal, I find your enjoyment for her "savagery" odd, but I can respect that. Some people like characters that do what it takes to get ahead, that's cool. I won't knock her for following her heart.

Still, you give her more credit than understandable. You seem to give her clairvoyance not shown, you make it sound like she somehow knew her compatibility with Mitsuru would be high, when no such signs were shown. You make her sound like this analytical pragmatic person who was just doing things nicely and making promises to Futoshi so them as a one on one pair would do well(even though no such signs were shown of this), but if she was the character you claim she is then she would have had the knowledge to know it would cause friction in the overall team to the point she wouldn't have betrayed him, at the very least she would of attempted to appease him afterwards and take heat off Mitsuru. Instead, the show has showcased her as more of a meek person and that she was indecisive until she decided to finally go for Mitsuru when she had the chance, she showed no signs of caring about the stability of the team like you seem to imply. Goro made the same type of love stuff to Ichigo(except in a less lame way), and you didn't see Ichigo lying to him for the team, and again there are no signs Futoshi wouldn't have worked well with her if she hadn't made the promise. She maybe an opportunist, but she is also a type of person that cannot handle confrontation and being upfront with people.

Edit: Also, the fact Mitsuru is sick(and she knows he is sick) and has a worse number than Futoshi(he is 214, while Mitsuru is 326) also discredits this super analytical side people seem to be giving to her, many people seem to act like she's a super smart chick who went for the better meal ticket because Futoshi is a fat loser(though no signs of her disliking his fat was ever shown). Future wise, Mitsuru is more bleak wise than Futoshi by the numbers. She is just a meek woman who fell in love, and went the wrong way about getting the man she wanted.

Epicenter said:


Like i said, the others said they acted like a married couple. Even she, in the episode, said she isn't a good person and broke a promise, she knows she led him on. It would be one thing if she didn't promise him anything, but if you're nice to someone and you make promises to them to be their partner, there is no excuse.
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People who defend her like she didn't betray him, even though she herself said so in the very episode, are just as pathetic as Futoshi is. Now it's fine to like a character who has complex personality, and understand that love doesn't work like you want and she loved Mitsuru, but to pretend like she didn't lie and doesn't have agency in her betrayal is white knight/simp behaviour.

Epicenter said:
He isn't a cuck, he didn't find enjoyment from it, nor did he stand idly by. You're right that it isn't Mitsuru's fault, or even problem.

Futoshi is a simp(or in other words a white knight), and nobody should feel bad for him, especially when he attacked Mitusru and told him to protect Kokoro when Kokoro is the one who lied to him.

The only thing is, you seem to think Kororo didn't trick him. This wasn't one sided. She made a promise, she didn't have to, Futoshi had never shown dangerous signs, so it's not like she was afraid of him and she always could of told him no. In fact, in past episodes she has continuously been nice to him, even inviting him to the girls table when Zero Two took his place on the man's stable. The others have also said they get a long like a married couple. He had reason to trust her, and believe she liked him. Still, he is a pathetic person, he doesn't even know where to direct his contempt.

lcd said:
Gonna copy paste my response to both these topics:

To the best of our knowledge, this is set in a world where people stay disconnected with one another and gets pleasure from some sort of machine.

Based on that knowledge we can almost guarantee that none of these kids grew up in a "normal" environment, and definitely none has ever been in a relationship before. I mean... they didn't even understand what kisses are or what it means to like/love someone.

So really:
* How could Futoshi know what is enough or how to control his own emotions?
* How could Kokoro know how to handle a situation when she probably feels uncomfortable confronting Futoshi's confession while her friend/teammate is definitely suffering from some sort of trauma
* How could Mitsuru know how to handle his own emotions and not let his childhood trauma haunt him (and to be fair, it's probably not even that long ago that it happened)

An REMEMBER, none of them are "adults" (past age 18 / emotionally mature / emotionless and detached)

TL;DR Stop blaming teenagers living in a fictional world by calling them b***h or fa* a** or whatever it is

Epicenter said:


At least you see her betrayal, I find your enjoyment for her "savagery" odd, but I can respect that. Some people like characters that do what it takes to get ahead, that's cool. I won't knock her for following her heart.

Still, you give her more credit than understandable. You seem to give her clairvoyance not shown, you make it sound like she somehow knew her compatibility with Mitsuru would be high, when no such signs were shown. You make her sound like this analytical pragmatic person who was just doing things nicely and making promises to Futoshi so them as a one on one pair would do well(even though no such signs were shown of this), but if she was the character you claim she is then she would have had the knowledge to know it would cause friction in the overall team to the point she wouldn't have betrayed him, at the very least she would of attempted to appease him afterwards and take heat off Mitsuru. Instead, the show has showcased her as more of a meek person and that she was indecisive until she decided to finally go for Mitsuru when she had the chance, she showed no signs of caring about the stability of the team like you seem to imply. Goro made the same type of love stuff to Ichigo(except in a less lame way), and you didn't see Ichigo lying to him for the team, and again there are no signs Futoshi wouldn't have worked well with her if she hadn't made the promise. She maybe an opportunist, but she is also a type of person that cannot handle confrontation and being upfront with people.

Edit: Also, the fact Mitsuru is sick(and she knows he is sick) and has a worse number than Futoshi(he is 214, while Mitsuru is 326) also discredits this super analytical side people seem to be giving to her, many people seem to act like she's a super smart chick who went for the better meal ticket because Futoshi is a fat loser(though no signs of her disliking his fat was ever shown). Future wise, Mitsuru is more bleak wise than Futoshi by the numbers. She is just a meek woman who fell in love, and went the wrong way about getting the man she wanted.

Zethus_Thorne96 said:
If Futoshi does die, then Ikuno might not be able to pilot a FranXX without a Stamen.

evoniee said:
Its like you are a motogp racer, you have made a contract with your team.
Suddenly you team changed its mind without any agrement from you because they think, oh its not a big deal, it not even last for a day or someshit. "Idc about your personal thought or feeling as long as my own desire achieved".

Or others small scale everyday things.

Yes its not a big deal it just his work partner, but as we saw, he doesnt made that things going big or babyraging infront everyone. He just disappointed on the first day, but he already chill the next day.

Who is more evil now?

Back to the DITF, on ep 18, now look who is more alpha now?

Purona said:
People calling Futoshi lame for making a promise to always pilot with Zero Two.. Meanwhile, Hiro and Zero two do the same thing, and arent called lame

evoniee said:
Goodluck getting trust from the others person in real life with your analogy.
You dont care to others, others dont care about you too for the next time.

I distrust so much people because people act like shit. It doesnt feel good to know you are getting lied, especially infront of people or you are being told by the people.

evoniee said:
@SigmaticDoc
Its not her fault nor him.
Mitsuru and ikuno cant paired, so eventually they will reassemble the couple. But hey, make some permission from your former partner.
And hey what about the edgy lord? He never speak anything despite he is the main problem, why mitsuru and ikuno not compatible?

Fatoshi dont make things getting more big and move on the next day.

Mitsuru so arogant when ride with 02. Later on he dont even trying to resolve his own problem with Hiro, he is doing nothing but hsting and act like a cool edgy lord. In the end Hiro clear things up and say sorry about him cannot remember the promise cause the memory wipe.

Peole hate kokoro because she is cannot be trusted, make sense.
People hate futoshi for expressing his genuine emotion and call him a baby rage, wait what ???

Ventus_S said:
Pretty sad this post sums up western audience in general.

In other Asian countries, most people find Kokoro at fault there cuz they didn't judge someone base on their look as much as you guys do.

EP18 shows that Futashi has much better personality than the whole casts.
Only Goro is on par with him.

Kokoro and Mitsuru in a nutshell.

SNDT said:

Lame just like your message. Zero Two and Hiro love each other, those feelings are mutual. Kokoro doesn't love Fatoshi, she loves Mitsuru. Simple as that.

Luthandorius said:
He is a whiny boy - just like most of the fan base of this anime. :D But it is okay. They also deserve to live in happiness. Doesn't mean I have to like such people him. He is the most annoying char in the series.

APE, Franxx and the older ones (Nana and the other guy) didn't get that much screen time. I have no opinion. Same for Ikuno.

Out of the others Ichigo, Goro, 002, Hiro and Kokoro are okay. Futoshi is annoying. And I don't care about Zoromo and his girl.

Ventus_S said:


Hahahahah

02 , Mitsuru, and Ichigo are all way more annoying and whiny in the whole show, but hey, they're best waifu/ husbando, so I'm gonna be double standard and say Futoshi is more annoying just because I'm annoyed by his look.