Flaws of Demon Slayer??

SAT_KUMAR said:
With an underwhelming season underway (compared to previous installments), I believe it's finally time to address certain weaknesses in the Demon Slayer series.

In my opinion, the most significant issue lies in its world building. We lack a clear understanding of how the government operates in this world, why they are unaware of demons, and why/how Demon Slayers are concealed from the general public. Furthermore, each new location we encounter merely serves as a backdrop for the next major battle, rather than being fully developed and integrated into the narrative. 

Note: I welcome a critical analysis of these shortcomings, as this is not intended to be a hate thread. Let's delve into the aspects that could be improved, beyond the argument of being solely carried by animation.

xZabuzax said:
The biggest flaw is the fucking shit comedy, I'm surprised you didn't even include "Comedy" in the poll so this poll is weak sauce.

LostSpectre said:
I only came here to see if comedy was mentioned, it's some of the most awkward and out of place comedy in all of battle shonen. 

Kenchiin said:
The “screaming is funny” comedy and the MC over explaining every little thing he feels or thinks… those are the thumbs down for me. But the rest is ok, so I can handle that.

I just hope in his next manga the author works in a better way to tackle comedy.

Manthors said:

I agree with you. Even though I think that other aspects of the show are weak, world building is by far the worse. I this sense, for sure the biggest flaw is how everything is interconnected. Before reading further, note that I just ignore the flaws to enjoy the show, because despite them, it is an enjoyable anime. And yes, we all know that most animes always have some level bad explanation for they fantastic world. Now, moving on:

-How is the government and the general public unaware of demons? This is specially crucial after the previous act that leveled an entire district.
-How are the demon slayer corp concealed in such a time? They dress similarly, they carry specific weapons, and so on, but no one is aware of them. They also have a training mansion, and a village dedicated to forge weapons. It does not appear that they have a mine, so how do they get their supplies? They can’t be that independent of the rest of the world.
-How can the demons themselves hide, because it is clear from the flashbacks and backstories that big events happened before. They preyed upon entire villages - yet, they are still able to just hide.
-Maybe this will be addressed latter, but how did Upper 4 and 5 found the “super hidden village” that took numerous people to just take Tanjiro there? Why wait until now to attack it?
-If the Hashiras have that level of power, how have they been training all around Japan without a single soul knowing them? (Just consider all the elemental power they master)

And the list keeps going.
Nevertheless, good anime, enjoyable: thus, I just ignore such doubts and move on.

xZabuzax said:
The biggest flaw is the fucking shit comedy, I'm surprised you didn't even include "Comedy" in the poll so this poll is weak sauce.

ktg said:
Lol, hard to talk about repetitive plot, when there was no repetition in the major fights, I mean when at least one Hashira was involved.
Rui: Hashira survives and easily kills him.
Enmu/Akaza: Rengoku dies, had no chance to win.
Gyutaro&Daki: Tengen survives, but lost his arm.

Ruined_day said:

Breathing Styles don't actually produce their elemental effects. They are just visual effects for the viewers

LostSpectre said:
I only came here to see if comedy was mentioned, it's some of the most awkward and out of place comedy in all of battle shonen. 

Shwetank_anime said:

there was always a repetition,  you are just too simple minded only considering battles and outcomes not the arcs , themes and writing direction ... hope you will understand it someday

ktg said:
You are the simple minded if you can't see the mistake you made here. Yes, every anime has arcs and every arc has a starting point, a middle part and an endind point. You are claiming this as a repetition. Other than that there were not a single thing that was repeated.
You are saying that having a theme through out a whole series is a repetition, like having titans in SnK is a repetition in your dictionary.

Even the way they built up the arcs up to this point was always different. In Rui case, they were sent there before Hashiras. In Akaza's case they were sent after a Hashira, in Gyutaro's case they were sent together and in the current case the demons attacked them. The fighting styles were also different because every demon has a different technique.

You are saying that with the other idiots together, that having a story, a concept is a repetition. Yes, the basic story is that demons hiding somewhere in Japan and they need to kill them. So they obviously need to go to new places to find new demons and even if they are in the same city, they need to look for them, because it's not obvious.
But again, other than that, nothing was repeated.

Btw, your point about me focusing on the fight is also retarded. We are talking about a battle shounen, so yes, talking about the MAIN ASPECT is what you should do, when we are looking at repetition. What you actually did here is like saying that there is no repetition because everyone has a different name. You want to talk about things that either irrelevant, ilke names or talking about things that are define a show from the first episode to the last one, like themes.
You need to be really stupid to think that there were repetition.

Spibber said:
half of the time all the characters are extremely annoying and unfunny and tend to ruin a decent scene with some bs, they’re all cardboard cutouts pretty much as well… demon slayers comedy is legitimately-and im not exaggerating-the worst, most unfunny, CRINGIEST comedy I’ve ever seen.. plot is almost 100% bs, plot armor-heavy, tropey, predictable, uninteresting and overall a turn-off, especially in season 2 with how many times the fight should’ve been over or characters should have died but came back for the CLuTCH! not only that but so so so so many things that happen throughout the show are just straight nonsensical
a few examples of bs: the entire Tanjiro vs Rui fight where Tanjiro and Nezuko suddenly learn some plot-armor stupid abilities they’ve never known before, Inosuke coming back from the dead because he “can move his organs” even though he didn’t have time to react to be stabbed in the heart, plus Tengen “stopping his heart” for the clutch one-handed play, Zenitsu is the worst character by far with his super stupid falling asleep gag which will never be funny or make any sense and basically confirms that he’s never had a single shred of growth as a character, wait I just realized didn’t Tanjiro use breathing stuff underwater in season 1 but then Tokito, a hashira, couldn’t do much at all when he was in season 3 and you physically can’t breath air bubbles underwater, speaking of season 3 I hate the stupid kid his character is so flip-flop back and forth stupid kid I hate him, why didn’t they explain Genya’s stupid little religion thing that stopped him from getting shot into swiss cheese and dying plus they just expected us to automatically know his brother was the wind hashira guy without telling us until his retarded flashback, Inosuke still hasn’t had a proper moment in the whole show and it’s hilarious because he’s a good competitor for worst character, oh yeah he did have his ridiculously bullshit clutch back from the dead thing when he killed Daki with Zenitsu someone tell me how Inosuke caught up with the god-speed lightning breath thing or whatever and casually spoke about not being dead and whatever it makes 0 sense I hate it and plus I hate how Zenitsu literally used god-speed and just flies around in the sky for like 5 minutes doing nothing I guess while Tanjiro and Tengen fought Gyutaro, Tokito’s sword deal kinda makes no sense compared to other hashiras also I forgot the big tittied fan-servicey hashira’s name but her sword is stupid and also makes no sense, everyone’s stamina is so off and on it’s annoying, I HATE Nezuko’s stupid demon art fire thing it makes no sense it just pops in to heal everyone for plot-armor it’s the fuckin worst but there’s one thing that’s even worse it’s all the “comedy” scenes that actually make me cringe unironically it’s actually hard to listen to without skipping through the episode but the worst comedic scene by far was at the end of season 2 when Tengen was giving his final words and it was setting up for a very sad scene, and then his bitch wives start crying and arguing and interrupting him and it’s supposed to be funny but it’s just obnoxious it makes me want to die.
In conclusion this show is hard-carried by animation and sheer level of its producers, if it weren’t for ufotable this series would respectably get none of this attention

SAT_KUMAR said:
With an underwhelming season underway (compared to previous installments), I believe it's finally time to address certain weaknesses in the Demon Slayer series.

In my opinion, the most significant issue lies in its world building. We lack a clear understanding of how the government operates in this world, why they are unaware of demons, and why/how Demon Slayers are concealed from the general public. Furthermore, each new location we encounter merely serves as a backdrop for the next major battle, rather than being fully developed and integrated into the narrative. 

Note: I welcome a critical analysis of these shortcomings, as this is not intended to be a hate thread. Let's delve into the aspects that could be improved, beyond the argument of being solely carried by animation.

Nanishteruno said:

at this point you're just hate watching. Might as well drop it. Why are you so obsessed with something you don't even like? I have an explanation for each point you mentioned. But no matter what I say, it seems like you are beyond the point of no return.

Just drop it bro... it would be for the best

Shwetank_anime said:

you are free to assume whatever you want . and besides your long essay didn't change my opinion even a bit . According to me whoever thinks demon slayer is not repetitive is objectively dumb (as simple as that) also writing long essays doesnt necessarily makes your point bolder , Its pointless to argue with anyone who turns a simple concept to an irrelevant bs

ktg said:
Everyone who's only points is "you are wrong because you are stupid" are idiots. You did that and now you couldn't even defend your statements. :DDD
Pretty pathetic.

And then, let's not talk about who is the dumb when you are the one who gave SnK plot hole season a 10. :D

RopeBuny said:

Wait, what’s a Snk?

ktg said:

SnK is Shingeki no Kyojin, Attack on Titan.
The Japanese title is better, so I usually use that one.

RopeBuny said:

Which season did he give a 10?

Honeario said:
Dude they take wayyyy to long with introductions and make us wait too long for the action. AND THEN BY SOME MIRACLE they manage to lack in world building

ktg said:

You can't check it or what? He gave S3P2, S4P1 and S4P2 a 10.

Nanishteruno said:

I beg to differ with the point of "underwhelming season".

We saw Tanjiro get absolutely out classed by Rui in first season, only for a Hashira like Giyu to end the fight with ease. This literally showed you the skill difference between a Hashira and an amateur. And the power difference between a lower moon and a Hashira.

In the Mugen train, you saw a Hashira go up against an upper moon and get absolutely toyed by despite his best efforts and how helpless is Tanjiro against an upper moon at that point.

In the entertainment district, you saw Tengen go up against lowest of the upper ranks and we saw how he struggled to even keep up with Gyutaro's attacks. We see how Tanjiro has improved so much in just under an year. From literally unable to follow the fight of Rengoku and Akaza to taking on an Upper moon. You still see the difference when he faced Daki. He struggled at first, went full on rage mode on her at still it wasn't enough. At the ending of the fight, he became strong enough to keep up with Tengen and Gyutaro to deliver the finishing blow within hours.

In the Sword smiths arc, we see Tanjiro go up against an upper moon with confidence. He is able to hold his own. He now can just destroy Daki equivalents of UM4 after summoning his demon slayer mark at will.

You also Muichiro going up against UM5. Need I remind you that Tengen mentioned that Muichiro was far stronger than him? Muichiro didn't even have his custom nichirin katana at the start of the fight. Which is a huge debuff if you think about it.

And yet he held his own and was able to break out of the prison pot, while being poisoned. Muichiro after unlocking his slayer mark is on a whole another level, and with his custom Nichirin, he's back at his best. He is actually so strong that he solo'ed an upper rank. What you witnessed is a similar fight of what you saw when Giyu went up against Rui. Destroyed in seconds.

Last 2 seasons  you saw a Hashira struggling to keep up with an upper rank. And this season you see a Hashira absolutely destroy an upper rank with ease.

It's an underwhelming season so far in terms of fights because, Gyokko was simply out classed. Doesn't mean that Gyokko was a meme. Muichiro is just that strong.


And coming to the point of world building, I kinda agree with you... But I think we have some clues about how the world operates. It's not mentioned exclusively. Remember when Rengoku saved the bun sellers in mugen train? Rengoku says that "the best way to live a life is to forget that demons exist at all".

Demons only appear at night. Its not like a bunch of them are invading an area and causing havoc. They're cautious to avoid unwanted attention. Missing people and bloody messes might easily be mistaken to be bandits and looters.

And for how the Ubuyashiki(if you don't know who Ubuyashiki is, he is the master of the demon slayer corps) family operates, they are heavily funded by the families they saved. You see such family when Tengen enters a home with a wisteria logo for resting.

You literally see UM 1 mention that Ubuyashiki is a master at concealing himself. You see Tanjiro explain how the smith village is hidden by the system of Kakushi following crows to their hide out. He also says that the master is very intelligent in these sorts.

And yes, there are inconsistencies in world building. Like how did the government just let go of the whole entertainment district getting levelled. Maybe, it would be mistaken for a huge fire accident. If you remember, Tengen's blades cause explosions at his will. So it's most likely be mistaken for a huge fire accident. It's not like I'm stating facts, even I am speculating in this regard.

Kenchiin said:
The “screaming is funny” comedy and the MC over explaining every little thing he feels or thinks… those are the thumbs down for me. But the rest is ok, so I can handle that.

I just hope in his next manga the author works in a better way to tackle comedy.