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SkyhighCFC said: Make it 3 episodes.StardustReverie said: Why did ryukishi rise from the dead just to write this shit? What was even the point of this season? They could have just extended the last season with 2 episodes and it would have been the same. Unless... Then people would complain that we never got to see what happened in the loops prior. The problem with SOTSU was it's pacing and how long it took to get to this point. They could've showed us everything that happened in about 6-7 episodes. But honestly anyone that paid attention in Gou could guess 80% of what happened. Hell, Rena's and Mion's answer arcs were 100% pointless. Only things nobody saw, I guess, is Teppei being killed by Satoko and Ooishi trying to frame Teppei as an Oyashiro-sama target. |
SkyhighCFC said: ssjokg said: Make it 3 episodes. But honestly anyone that paid attention in Gou could guess 80% of what happened. Hell, Rena's and Mion's answer arcs were 100% pointless. Only things nobody saw, I guess, is Teppei being killed by Satoko and Ooishi trying to frame Teppei as an Oyashiro-sama target. Not everyone is as sharp as others, which is why I said about 6-7, so they can give a good enough in depth presentation. But yea it probably could've been cut down even more. Personally I still enjoyed the Mion and Rena arc because they gave us nice tidbits into their characters we didn't get in GOU (or the original with Mion going L5 and all) despite the pacing. But the last 6-7 episodes have been a drag man. I tried to stay positive about it, but the more I come to these episode threads the more issues I find and it's actually jarring Honestly I hated Mion's at all. At least I was indifferent towards Rena. What did we learn? She is Shion but with Keichan instead of Satoshi.Add random berserker moments for superficial details. |
Cyllan said: Hey man, only one ep left, le Grande Finale! Don't give up now.I’m just going to stop here and pretend this never happened. ame-furi said: Unlike how I recommended above, if this is the case, you might better not watch the le Grande Finale...What the fuck did I just watch. Just awful lol. And if I'll ever hear Eua's maniacal laugh again, I'll fucking kill myself. SkyhighCFC said: If Umineko Anime did fights like this it wouldn't be a proper adaptation in the first place.If Umineko got a proper anime adaptation, I would not be surprised if they did a fight scene like this. There's more sense and cleverness in the Umineko fights, atleast in the VN they did. Chargecoulomb said: No man you're missing the point.Chargecoulomb said: Whoa whoa. Ill just add that this being K1s kid is not confirmed yet. It could easily be k1 with a male Rena. For God's sake it literally says that it takes 35 years after the OG how the heck did I miss it This being K1s kid is all but confirmed. The other dude is probably Rena's kid with whoever she married. They are both K1's and 07's kids. It's a story of incestious boys' love. The True Higurashi below the surface. Chargecoulomb said: Poor BT, what a great talent the world (atleast WTC one) lost in you.Woah. If Eua is Ryuukishis self insert... Does that mean Hanyuu is BT? BT probably would be reacting the same way Hanyuu is if he ever saw this ep. The again if BT was around he would have stopped Ryuukishi suggesting SotsuGou in the first place sKyBlazer08 said: Well... That's nice and all, except when it's done deliberately like this.Holy fucking shit. I loved the callbacks throughout that fight, good to see chair-kun and roof-kun. They trying to suck up the old fans at this point? like this? |
         Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
SkyhighCFC said: Oleogm said: I clearly mention something that, a random guy, said on internet, naming it "leak", yea Leaks that have been accurate up to now...are you actually taking the piss? The leaks dont have any major thing |
| Best episode don't @ me. |
| Problems regarding the leak: Call me paranoid. I have a bad feeling about it. The leaker warned of more Higu in 2022, so whether that means a continuation of Sotsu or not is unclear. Until next week its hard to say for sure. |
ChargecoulombSep 24, 2021 9:26 AM
I mean, after 38 episodes do you expect this to end up being good? Even assuming that we get a proper satisfying ending it doesnt make the rest good. Just because you are offered cake at the end of a shitty meal made of shit doesnt make the whole experience worth it. |
ssjokg said: I mean, after 38 episodes do you expect this to end up being good? Even assuming that we get a proper satisfying ending it doesnt make the rest good. Just because you are offered cake at the end of a shitty meal made of shit doesnt make the whole experience worth it. The leaker had to be someone at passione. So when they say more Higu is coming next year, its something to conisder. They could be talking about the 3 or so manga, but... Eh. Hard to belive when they repeated stuff for 13 eps thay they wont somehow stretch this to next year. Its not about the ending, but a third season thats concerning. |
| Haha does Ryukishi realize how shittily written the characters are and is this an elaborate troll? Even the characters themselves point out the fact that Satoko chose to torture and kill her "friends" for a century instead of just trying to study. She literally picked tortures and murders over studying before any of the split personality copout and they are still going to try to redeem Satoko? Also I have seen people like that certain Kinzo guy trying to defend the DBZ fight by saying that it makes sense because this series has supernatural and that's what the author did in his other series. An author's history with his other series is completely irrelevant when talking about this series specifically (even ignoring how it actually makes sense in his other series) and there being supernatural gods doesn't make this any dumber. At no point in this episode or any past episode did they imply that the magic sword or the gods gave the power of Miko Trigger to Satoko or Rika. Hell, Hanyuu is half fucking dead the whole series. If you genuinely think that this shit is good writing and you aren't new to Ryukishi, you have zero understanding of Higurashi and Umineko beyond the most surface level. |
Chargecoulomb said: I just want this bullshit to end.ssjokg said: I mean, after 38 episodes do you expect this to end up being good? Even assuming that we get a proper satisfying ending it doesnt make the rest good. Just because you are offered cake at the end of a shitty meal made of shit doesnt make the whole experience worth it. The leaker had to be someone at passione. So when they say more Higu is coming next year, its something to conisder. They could be talking about the 3 or so manga, but... Eh. Hard to belive when they repeated stuff for 13 eps thay they wont somehow stretch this to next year. Is Ryu just procrastinating Ciconia 2 and just needs all the reasons he needs o do that? |
SkyhighCFC said: Hulio said: Hey man, only one ep left, le Grande Finale! Don't give up now. Unlike how I recommended above, if this is the case, you might better not watch the le Grande Finale... If Umineko Anime did fights like this it wouldn't be a proper adaptation in the first place. There's more sense and cleverness in the Umineko fights, atleast in the VN they did. No man you're missing the point. They are both K1's and 07's kids. It's a story of incestious boys' love. The True Higurashi below the surface. Poor BT, what a great talent the world (atleast WTC one) lost in you. Well... That's nice and all, except when it's done deliberately like this. They trying to suck up the old fans at this point? like this? Look man, we get it...you don't like SOTSU. You don't need to come at people who are enjoying it though? Also, the episode 8 fight between Bern and Lambda would likely look somewhat similar to this in anime. Bern and Lambda literally throw sparks candy and black holes at each other. Its a lightshow. How is that simmilar to this if you dont mind me asking? Imo theyre nothing alike. As far as WTC goes this stands alone as the only scene like this. |
Hulio said: Cyllan said: Hey man, only one ep left, le Grande Finale! Don't give up now.I’m just going to stop here and pretend this never happened. ame-furi said: Unlike how I recommended above, if this is the case, you might better not watch the le Grande Finale...What the fuck did I just watch. Just awful lol. And if I'll ever hear Eua's maniacal laugh again, I'll fucking kill myself. SkyhighCFC said: If Umineko Anime did fights like this it wouldn't be a proper adaptation in the first place.If Umineko got a proper anime adaptation, I would not be surprised if they did a fight scene like this. There's more sense and cleverness in the Umineko fights, atleast in the VN they did. Chargecoulomb said: No man you're missing the point.For God's sake it literally says that it takes 35 years after the OG how the heck did I miss it This being K1s kid is all but confirmed. The other dude is probably Rena's kid with whoever she married. They are both K1's and 07's kids. It's a story of incestious boys' love. The True Higurashi below the surface. Chargecoulomb said: Poor BT, what a great talent the world (atleast WTC one) lost in you.Woah. If Eua is Ryuukishis self insert... Does that mean Hanyuu is BT? BT probably would be reacting the same way Hanyuu is if he ever saw this ep. The again if BT was around he would have stopped Ryuukishi suggesting SotsuGou in the first place sKyBlazer08 said: Well... That's nice and all, except when it's done deliberately like this.Holy fucking shit. I loved the callbacks throughout that fight, good to see chair-kun and roof-kun. They trying to suck up the old fans at this point? like this? The bern vs Lambda fight would probably end up looking something like this in anime format. Regardless of your criticisms of the direction GOU/SOTSU has gone, the fight scene in this episode was objectively good, in that it was very well animated and choreographed, putting some battle shounen to shame. Like I said in a previous post though, it doesn't feel like Higurashi which is the main issue. Doesn't take away from the fact it was a well done fight scene |
Chargecoulomb said: SkyhighCFC said: Look man, we get it...you don't like SOTSU. You don't need to come at people who are enjoying it though? Also, the episode 8 fight between Bern and Lambda would likely look somewhat similar to this in anime. Bern and Lambda literally throw sparks and candy at each other. Its a lightshow. How is that simmilar to this if you dont mind me asking? As far as WTC goes this stands alone as the only scene like this. Exactly...it's a light show. It wouldn't look EXACTLY like what we saw but the animation style and choreography would likely be similar. |
SkyhighCFC said: Chargecoulomb said: Bern and Lambda literally throw sparks and candy at each other. Its a lightshow. How is that simmilar to this if you dont mind me asking? As far as WTC goes this stands alone as the only scene like this. Exactly...it's a light show. It wouldn't look EXACTLY like what we saw but the animation style and choreography would likely be similar. Animation style maybe - depending on who's animating it. Choreography - Not my idea of how a Bern Lambda will play out. Ideally instead of shoving each other around. They would keep their distance, since Witches NEVER attack up close. The Library would stop them from meaninglessly flying around, they'll weave through the shelves. Bern using her Cats and Lasers. While Lambda counters with Black holes and sweets. Remembering that Lambda is holding back. No one will really be able to land a hit on each other (unlike what happens here) neither of them will really do much against each other. Each time the lasers and the sweets hit each other, a firework like burst will happen, creating and destroying universes (like what the VN Says) Until Lambda tricks Bern and manages to cause some serious damage to her from the inside. This is my view of a potential Battle. Not really simmilar to what happens here. |
| I love to see how whiny and pissed people are, while I'm here just enjoying the fucking treat Ryukishi and Passione are handing to me. SatoRika OTP. |
| I unironically loved this episode despite how "strange" (I really don't have a word for it) it was because at least SOMETHING HAPPENED. |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
| @SkyhighCFC @Chargecoulomb The issue is that this has no place in Higurashi, at least not in the real world and between human characters, loopers or otherwise. If it was the same scene, same animation and choreography but with Eua and Hanyuu in the sea of fragments it would be fine for the most part. Bern and Lambda arent the main characters and their fights isnt the climax or even important to the story(Lambda's goal aside which was created a few scenes ago). |
| It's funny for once being on the side that loved this episode & the whole fight. |
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ssjokg said: @SkyhighCFC @Chargecoulomb The issue is that this has no place in Higurashi, at least not in the real world and between human characters, loopers or otherwise. If it was the same scene, same animation and choreography but with Eua and Hanyuu in the sea of fragments it would be fine for the most part. Bern and Lambda arent the main characters and their fights isnt the climax or even important to the story(Lambda's goal aside which was created a few scenes ago). Yeah just when I was typing it out, I realized that Bern and Lambdas fight wasnt that fleshed out or detailed. Except for them throwing unexplainable stuff at each other. Ryuukishi probably didnt care enough to really put detail into it. It wasnt that important in the grand scheme of things. |
tottoja said: It's funny for once being on the side that loved this episode & the whole fight. Haha honestly same |
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I? |
Chargecoulomb said: SkyhighCFC said: Exactly...it's a light show. It wouldn't look EXACTLY like what we saw but the animation style and choreography would likely be similar. Animation style maybe - depending on who's animating it. Choreography - Not my idea of how a Bern Lambda will play out. Ideally instead of shoving each other around. They would keep their distance, since Witches NEVER attack up close. The Library would stop them from meaninglessly flying around, they'll weave through the shelves. Bern using her Cats and Lasers. While Lambda counters with Black holes and sweets. Remembering that Lambda is holding back. No one will really be able to land a hit on each other (unlike what happens here) neither of them will really do much against each other. Each time the lasers and the sweets hit each other, a firework like burst will happen, creating and destroying universes (like what the VN Says) Until Lambda tricks Bern and manages to cause some serious damage to her from the inside. This is my view of a potential Battle. Not really simmilar to what happens here. Well whatever...either way it'd be a flashy lightshow like what we got in this episode. It wouldn't play out the same but ye |
SkyhighCFC said: ssjokg said: @SkyhighCFC @Chargecoulomb The issue is that this has no place in Higurashi, at least not in the real world and between human characters, loopers or otherwise. If it was the same scene, same animation and choreography but with Eua and Hanyuu in the sea of fragments it would be fine for the most part. Bern and Lambda arent the main characters and their fights isnt the climax or even important to the story(Lambda's goal aside which was created a few scenes ago). Yup...already addressed this. It did not feel like a Higurashi episode at all. +1 to this. You just end up getting some painful wtf Whiplash. |
| So do you guys think Higurashi Jun could fix some if not most of the issues from the trash that is Sotsu? Apparently it's supposed to have completely different answer arcs. and yeah Gou still has its own issues but Sotsu is just on a whole another level so it'd be better than what we have now for sure |
Manu_0Sep 24, 2021 11:27 AM
Manu_0 said: So do you guys think Higurashi Jun could fix some if not most of the issues from the trash that is Sotsu? Apparently it's supposed to have completely different answer arcs. and yeah Gou still has its own issues but Sotsu is just on a whole another level so it'd be better than what we have now for sure No idea how it will play out for now. I predict that some things might be change but the overal plot will remain the same. Same ending, slightly different path to get there. |
Manu_0 said: Is Higurashi Jun Sotsu's damage control?So do you guys think Higurashi Jun could fix some if not most of the issues from the trash that is Sotsu? Apparently it's supposed to have completely different answer arcs. and yeah Gou still has its own issues but Sotsu is just on a whole another level so it'd be better than what we have now for sure I wonder at what point they decided to do something different. |
| Omg how tf did we get from horror mystery, to magical battle shounen. |
"Get your tentacles off me or ill make calamari out of your manhood" -Mirai Nikki Dub |
| I don't see how they came to the conclusion that this is a good way to wrap up Sotsu. This was such a bizarre change of genre and style. I'd rate this episode a one, but it's getting a two because at least I was able to laugh at how ridiculous everything happening in context was. |
| :Kekega: it seriously turned into a shounen episode with the main protagonist facing the main antagonist, in a fight that will decide the universe's fate Got me really entertained, not gonna lie. Can't say the horror/supernatural/mystery mood still exists, but at least I enjoyed my time |
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Manu_0 said: Top kek. The fact that it have a different name despite being the answer arc for Gou is already quite telling, the mangaka definitely doesn't want to be associated with Sotsu at all lmaoSo do you guys think Higurashi Jun could fix some if not most of the issues from the trash that is Sotsu? Apparently it's supposed to have completely different answer arcs. and yeah Gou still has its own issues but Sotsu is just on a whole another level so it'd be better than what we have now for sure I already said that I'm too tired to read more, but I admit Gou's manga ending is too interesting to pass on. We'll see how different it is. |
| I think the stuff about "studying" is being taken too literally. It's not really just about studying. The dialogue is just written atrociously, shallow, and completely one-dimensional and repetitive fluff content. There was a clear artistic decision from a writing standpoint not to develop and delve into it further. Anyway, meh. Many here and elsewhere longtime fans of the original two seasons and/or the VN and manga are rightfully and logically turned off, disgusted, incensed, etc., but to me, just because of choices like directorial style, lack of presence of OST, art style, etc., I think it was clear and I said at the time and many times since then that this is, was, and always was going to be a vastly inferior entry compared to the original seasons. They were making such lame and dull, uninspired directing choices from literally episode one of Gou and all you have to do is compare those scenes for which an original equivalent exists side by side shot for shot (it begins with the cuts of Rena and Mion and keeps that same ineffective style throughout). So I don't see it so much as worthy of getting angry over since its inferiority compared to seasons one and two was essentially clear since episode one of Gou and Sotsu just continued that trend, except lowering the bar a bit further. It probably won't bother you as much if you just think of this as another optional and disposable "What-if?" navel-gazing type sequel meant for fun and not, nor ever intended to be, even a remotely serious story of the same caliber. Treat it like Higurashi Kira, the non-canon episodes of Rei, and Outbreak/Kaku, in other words. It won't rile you up as much if you're no longer expecting an actual combined mystery, horror, and thriller series, but more of a poorly done supernatural melodrama (like a Lifetime movie-tier crossed with a lesser Mahou Shoujo anime, like the Kira parody). |
WatchTillTandavaSep 24, 2021 3:50 PM
| Man this was terrible, just terrible. I absolutely loved some things Rika said tho. It's so bad that it made me laugh and cringe at the same time. Gotta hand it to ryukishi tho, this took balls to make, sadly its pretty shit as a whole. now I definitely dont want an Umineko anime. ALSO WHY WASNT RIKA MORE MAD AT SATOKO FOR THIS?! |
Hero_LukaSep 24, 2021 3:09 PM
Si1verR0se said: bad bait, shitty account made to vote low on a single series and watch nothing else.There's no redemption for this shitfest So you telling me that Mion, Keichi and Rena just stand still while Satoko shot Rika then herself and the didn't even tried to do something? Not to mention "Rika vs Satoko compilation" that was straight up stupid as fuck cringe... bruh, whoever write and direct this are braindead mf |
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| 10/10 greatest parody I've seen. Almost reaches Carnival Phantasm levels of hilarious with that mahou shoujo battle. Wait, what do you mean this isn't supposed to be a parody- |
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SkyhighCFC said: iiKrina said: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ye alright there little guy/gal? no my favourite franchise has turned into a joke |
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PinkShibaInu said: Well the current consensus is that apparently it was always a joke to begin with, but I'd find that hard to agree with. Even if that were the case this isn't just your average level of a joke. This is ADVANCED now lol. They should have treated Sotsugou as a what if? series. A spin off. It shouldnt have been accepted into cannon. As such, they should have made this a 28 ep long series. Maybe even shorter. It wouldnt necessarily fix the issues Sotsugou has but it would have atleast made sense for it to... Not make sense. |
It's better to just segregate seasons one and two, Nekogoroshi-hen, and Saikoroshi-hen (from Rei) from everything else in your mind to keep a clear vision of the world and your own sanity. Everything else is just a thought exercise. It could be all the club members reincarnated into a colony of mussels on the seabed or running a terraformed pumpkin farm on Jupiter. This is why I've actually come to believe now seeing how the story turned out like this that they should have just made something like this into a five or six episode OVA. It would be perfectly serviceable for the little that was expected of it by comparison and have entirely different standards to meet (i.e. much lower ones) as opposed to a full length and extensively advertised, major television production. The result and ultimate culmination of these seasons is like the equivalent of if they stretched the three canon episodes of Rei into nearly 40 episodes. I truthfully don't know why, besides any possible underlying financial motives, they would create whole new seasons for a story they had absolutely no intention to let the writing do the heavy lifting for and earnestly flesh out in a real way when the OVA model they used for Rei, Kira, and Outbreak had been established and worked fine for them (different studio, I know, but I mean the actual creator, Ryukishi). |
WatchTillTandavaSep 24, 2021 9:11 PM
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