Attack on Titan
| I really don’t like Eren, especially in S4 pt 1. Heck, I’m not a big fan of the season as a whole. |
Chota_Itachi said: >ymir loving Carl fritz is a disorder called STOCKHOLM SYNDROME...google for more information >In terms of eren x mikasa relation buildup i guess chapter 50 did a pretty good job (the episode in which they were about to kiss) , I won't say that ignoring somebody >i agree with mikasa walking back home is a hugggggeee plot hole but that itself can't be the only reason to hate the ending >Levi being cool around annie was a mature decision what you want him to torture her to death instead of saving the world , the Levi squad and warriors came together just so that they can save the world there's no time for personal affairs, or it can be settled later.... >First thing , levi squad stopped him before he could have finished 100% of the job , and even if he did killed everyone except paradise , paradise is doomed with civil war so its dead end both way >Hold up i didn't knew historia was some military general, btw why would they kill historia i mean she's the queen and yeagerists neither follow the queen nor the military so you can say there's no reason to kill her or maybe she tied up with em , its not really clear..... And those additional pages confirmed that Levi Squad lived till they got old so you can't even consider yeagerists using historia as an ambush and killing levi squad > Founding titan passed- well i agree its a plothole but again not so big to call the ending bad > Titan power is just godlike so maybe its upto the wielder Ymir to keep it or leave it , its the same as "how a centipede can create a place like PATHS"..... I mean its power is godlevel you can ignore that much.. >Armin never accepted Eren doing the rumbling its just that he appreciated Eren's sacrifice he made for his friends...... If he had a second chance to stop him after his chat he definitely would have stopped him I agree with the plot hole stuff but they can be ignore on behalf of the masterpiece behind chapter 139.... >Ik it is possible, then why did she kill herself then, she could have regenerated and lived with her love ig. even if it was stockholm eh could have been executed better. >hm no I don't think thats barely any development tbh. could have been executed better. >the more notice you flaws it becomes difficult to not notice other ones and makes you hate it even more soo... >then why did he kill zeke then, mf was just chilling on the titan. also could have been executed better, like levi getting angry at annie or something, no person can go 0 emotions all the time. >so in the end its actually just 'idk' or eren died for nothing. >passing titans is like a major part of the show so I don't think can be ignored. > eh paths could have been executed better for the most part, titans ceasing to exit also could have been executed better. >well the second chance didn't exist, so its still hypocrisy in my opinion, also could have been executed better. well I wouldn't call 139 masterpiece, and I can't just ignore plot holes I notice. |
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| He is the best shounen protag. I can give you that. Comparing a character to other characters is stupid and shows that you don't have much criticism. As for why Eren is the best shounen protag., read this- https://mobile.twitter.com/cactuzzshash/status/1417554380820303886 |
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darrenkbenn said: *****AOT ENDING SPOILERS****** Let me spice up more bad stuff on this chapter. >ymir likes Karl fritz, the guy who murdered her parents, pokes her eye, raped her, abused her but STILL loves him for 2000 years >eren just said "idk" reducing his character to a plot device in the end and that's the pay off and the conclusion to the main character of this series and then SUDDENLY likes mikasa while ignoring her chapter 1-138? >how did mikasa walk back all the way to paradise? When every ship and transportation was destroyed by the rumbling wouldn't that rotten erens head? >Annie got off easy after murdering those survey corps and especially Petra's friends. Levi is so pissed at Zeke even if they're just having a conversation and for Annie Levi kinda forgot? Hmm.. >eren destroyed 80℅ of humanity and the 1-2℅ are Paradise while the rest 18℅ are the outside world, wrens plan was to secure and guarantee paradise future and YET he left them with 200-500 million people angry because they themselves almost witnessed being stomp and did you see the steam ship with the alliance insidei in chapter 139? That means the outside world has industries capable of making weapons and advanced tech (keep in mind paradise is 100-50 years behind in technology) so that means they are capable of launching a full scale attack in 5-10 years. Paradise is doomed, no engineers, not enough man power. >how is historia still alive? Yeagerist literally killed every survey corp leader and yet they follow her? Hmmm... What is her authority aside from title alone? People already flocked to the nationalist aka yeagerist and what if they are using historia as a trap to set up the alliance and ambush them and ultimately killing them in the process? That means eren failed to save his friends since earlier they fought against the yeageeist. >How was the founding titan passed. I mean wouldn't her daughter's feasting on ymir give everyone the founding titan power. >How in world would just titan cease to exist I mean it came to existence through spinal fluid absorption so why would they even disappear just by a weird fetish being fulfilled. >Armin and co killing the yeagerist for there selfish belief of saving only Paradis but then later kinda accepting Eren did all the genocide for his friends. How is that any different that's just hypocrisy at it's finest. I mean I don't need a good ending atleast a one where the plots are explained. That's why I felt the script was just picked out off a trash can. |
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| eren is easily one of the best anime characters........ why I think this?(spoilers below) |
CandyRagiSep 22, 2021 4:37 AM
 "No one can rewrite the stars How can you say you'll be mine? Everything keeps us apart And I'm not the one you were meant to find It's not up to you you It's not up to me When everyone tells us what we can be How can we rewrite the stars?" |
| I don't even think he is a well-written character. Didn't know off-screen character development counted as good writing. He took a turn for worse in a time jump. And we never even got a good explanation for it, let alone actually showing how he got to that point, so I could get invested in him as a character. I've always disliked him but post-timeskip Eren is a piece of sh*t. |
"If you accept everything you're told without question, you'll lose your ability to think. Even if you reached the same conclusion, it would still be worth analysing the reasons behind it." - Lacie Baskerville, Pandora Hearts |
| had a lot of potential which went to waste after the last chapter this applies to all of the characters who were alive by the end basically Erwin and floch are the best from aot |
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| without the last chapters Eren is one of the most complex and well-written protags of all time. i cant comprehend how people can actually say that luffy is better than him? dude has literally cognitive impairments and is a slight upgrade from Goku, maybe LeLouch or Light are debatable and it is down to opinions. and wtf is forced popularity? it just proved how good and impactful eren's development was. btw levi is not more popular than eren ffs, he's just more favorited, same reason why people like Gojou, they are op characters with handsome faces. |
BlueJay_Tee said: Boobsftw said: without the last chapters Eren is one of the most complex and well-written protags of all time. i cant comprehend how people can actually say that luffy is better than him? dude has literally cognitive impairments and is a slight upgrade from Goku, maybe LeLouch or Light are debatable and it is down to opinions. and wtf is forced popularity? it just proved how good and impactful eren's development was. btw levi is not more popular than eren ffs, he's just more favorited, same reason why people like Gojou, they are op characters with handsome faces. It's people saying he's the BEST protagonist of all time. That's what bothers me. Other protagonists have their flaws but they amend them in their final conclusion. Eren's was kind of screwed up, so that's why I can't fathom why people still think he's the best character of all time. By forced popularity, I meant that people are getting so worked up about Eren not being in the top 10 on this website. I've seen people constantly complain about it and the more you do that, the less it will happen. A character's status should be earned, not forced. If people like another character more than Eren, they are still AOT fans. There are many anime where the main character is not the most popular character. Death Note is a prime example. L is far more popular than Light. Put it this way. If Levi fans behaved the way Eren fans did, you would think they're being really toxic and obnoxious. But when Eren fans do it, it's okay? When they target other anime characters like Lelouch, just for being the #1 character and resent Reiner for being Isayama's favourite character instead of Eren, you'd give them a free pass? well it's obviously not okay for the fans to do it. it's just that Eren is comparable to those characters( excluding the last chapter ofc) and his popularity is justified |
| LOL you're really not the only person. If we were to rank all the main/relevant characters in AOT, Eren really would be at the bottom of the list. He's your generic Shounen MC more than anything. That being said I would say he's bad per se, (but there's the thing with his character progression, he seems to backtrack at times) and yeah he's relatable. |
Boobsftw said: well it's obviously not okay for the fans to do it. it's just that Eren is comparable to those characters( excluding the last chapter ofc) and his popularity is justified You can't just exclude the last chapter lmao. It's a crucial part of his character, that's what he was all this time! Those are his motivations, he states them there clearly. If you think last chapter Eren is trash then you should think all AoT Eren (post-timeskip especially) is trash. |
"If you accept everything you're told without question, you'll lose your ability to think. Even if you reached the same conclusion, it would still be worth analysing the reasons behind it." - Lacie Baskerville, Pandora Hearts |
| trust me- you are not xD |
| Eren is neither a good character nor is he likable. Essentially, he is shit. |
| "Life is too bitter, so coffee, at least should be sweet..." - Hikigaya Hachiman (Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatte Iru) |
| It's just people who think it's good just because they saw the last season, if they want to talk about well-written characters that are from SNK, it would be for me, Hange, Erwin, Reiner, Ymir or Historia (the latter, Isayama did shit). Even so, to me he seems like a good character, but to say that he is "the best protagonist of all time and that there was never one like him" it already seems a very stupid to me and I think those who finished the manga will know "the because "it's not as good as some say. That would be my humble opinion. |
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| Most people doesn't call him a good character anymore after that ending. And for the Lelouch, He's just overrated. I would say Eren is a little better than him. |
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| Eren was actually somewhat tolerable early on for me, funny enough, but after the timeskip and all, the shift in characterization really rubbed me the wrong way, and even more so considering that ridiculously awful ending in the manga. |
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| I didn’t like him at first but s4 really improved his character (in my opinion of course) |
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Akitokamisen said: I agree with this person. Gintoki is probably holder of that title. Even tho he's basically a direct parody of a certain someone.Eren is a great character but definitely not one the best shonen protagonist That title either belongs to Luffy or Gintoki (from the popular once) And the fans of aot overhyped everything so just ignore them The "problem" with most overhyped anime like AoT is...... who cares. Everyone has too many "important" opinions and not enough ability to just enjoy an art medium. |
My taste is trash. So is yours. |
| There are no real standout characters. Maybe Erwin. Honestly, all the characters aren’t complex or interesting or even just well written. This became very apparent with season 4. |
  Even If We Painstakingly Piece Together Something Lost, It Doesn't Mean Things Will Ever go Back To How They Were - Guts  |
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