Is the statement in title True or False?
| i haven't seen enough of old anime to judge it myself. BUT, i don't think it's fair to compare two different eras of anime. |
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| watch gibli My friend NOne Is ur's IS TRUE |
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EratiK said: Idk, even if bad, old anime have several advantages over modern anime: -they were less cringy, there was less self insert power fantasy, which comes from the fact that anime then was mainly manga adaptations, and manga will always be a more respectable medium than light novel which is trashy by definition. An interesting exception is that back then studios were clever enough to adapt classical novels, like Little Women, Tom Sawyer, etc. What makes Light Novels trashy by definition? |
BurnMyBread00 said: EratiK said: Idk, even if bad, old anime have several advantages over modern anime: -they were less cringy, there was less self insert power fantasy, which comes from the fact that anime then was mainly manga adaptations, and manga will always be a more respectable medium than light novel which is trashy by definition. An interesting exception is that back then studios were clever enough to adapt classical novels, like Little Women, Tom Sawyer, etc. What makes Light Novels trashy by definition? I'm also surprised that apparently people can't do their homework when they talk shit like this and realize that anime is still mainly manga adaptations. |
jal90 said: I'm also surprised that apparently people can't do their homework when they talk shit like this and realize that anime is still mainly manga adaptations. I think he means that manga are still read by somewhat normal people when light novels are 100% otaku trash that indulges in... weird things. *coughs* Fate is a porn game where female protags get banged to replenish their mana *coughs* |
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Ghemotoc said: jal90 said: I'm also surprised that apparently people can't do their homework when they talk shit like this and realize that anime is still mainly manga adaptations. I think he means that manga are still read by somewhat normal people when light novels are 100% otaku trash that indulges in... weird things. *coughs* Fate is a porn game where female protags get banged to replenish their mana *coughs* I don't really care about defending light novels because I don't read them, but I dunno, isn't Kino no Tabi a light novel? |
Ghemotoc said: I think he means that manga are still read by somewhat normal people when light novels are 100% otaku trash that indulges in... weird things. *coughs* Fate is a porn game where female protags get banged to replenish their mana *coughs* A pretty uneducated take, but okay. |
BurnMyBread00May 17, 2021 8:20 AM
jal90 said: isn't Kino no Tabi a light novel? And the 2003 adaptation by Ryuutarou Nakamura who takes some liberties with the source is praised way more that the canon one from 2017. On the other hand being prejudice against certain format (like light novels) sounds wrong. Maybe we should talk about them case by case. |
SuicideMaster said: Fact. Anyone who says otherwise has literally never watched anything other than Demon Slayer and Boku no Hero In all seriousness, I think it's undeniable that the golden age of anime were the 2000s. *innocently clics on username to check profile* OMG WHAT IS THIS SCARY PLACE!? >.> |
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alshu said: jal90 said: isn't Kino no Tabi a light novel? And the 2003 adaptation by Ryuutarou Nakamura who takes some liberties with the source is praised way more that the canon one from 2017. On the other hand being prejudice against certain format (like light novels) sounds wrong. Maybe we should talk about them case by case. Now this is an educated take. There'll always be weird LN's made with the purpose of what they claimed, but the same goes for anime, manga and any other form of media. I could only think that what gave Ghemotoc that idea were the huge amounts of LN adaptations seen today being fanservicey isekai, when of course the market is way bigger than that. |
BurnMyBread00 said: Ghemotoc said: I think he means that manga are still read by somewhat normal people when light novels are 100% otaku trash that indulges in... weird things. *coughs* Fate is a porn game where female protags get banged to replenish their mana *coughs* A pretty uneducated take, but okay. After much research (30s) I realise now that I was confusing Visual novels and Light novels. My bad. Visual novels are the weird porney things for otaku, light novels are just mass-produced low-effort books for teens. I'm still gonna stay away. I feel I'm a bit past the age of reading Animorphs and other teen-oriented series. |
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Ghemotoc said: After much research (30s) I realise now that I was confusing Visual novels and Light novels. My bad. Visual novels are the weird porney things for otaku, light novels are just mass-produced low-effort books for teens. I'm still gonna stay away. I feel I'm a bit past the age of reading Animorphs and other teen-oriented series. What visual/light novels have you read before? |
BurnMyBread00 said: Ghemotoc said: After much research (30s) I realise now that I was confusing Visual novels and Light novels. My bad. Visual novels are the weird porney things for otaku, light novels are just mass-produced low-effort books for teens. I'm still gonna stay away. I feel I'm a bit past the age of reading Animorphs and other teen-oriented series. What visual/light novels have you read before? I read Fate's screenshots of the english translation. That's enough, I'm not sure I wanna go further when Fate is actually considered a good VN lol. |
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Ghemotoc said: I read Fate's screenshots of the english translation. That's enough, I'm not sure I wanna go further when Fate is actually considered a good VN lol. Well im not sure about LN's for your taste, but I'd recommend Katawa Shoujo. Surprisingly well written and a lot better than I expected it to be. Shouldn't knock something until you try it at least. |
BurnMyBread00 said: Ghemotoc said: I read Fate's screenshots of the english translation. That's enough, I'm not sure I wanna go further when Fate is actually considered a good VN lol. Well im not sure about LN's for your taste, but I'd recommend Katawa Shoujo. Surprisingly well written and a lot better than I expected it to be. Shouldn't knock something until you try it at least. Awww. Thanks for the recc, I honestly appreciate it, this said I'm trying to cut down on video-game time, I'm not sure I wanna dwelve into VNs :'^) |
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alshu said: jal90 said: isn't Kino no Tabi a light novel? And the 2003 adaptation by Ryuutarou Nakamura who takes some liberties with the source is praised way more that the canon one from 2017. On the other hand being prejudice against certain format (like light novels) sounds wrong. Maybe we should talk about them case by case. I actually like much more the 2003 version, but I heard that, and it also makes sense, the 2017 version seems more tightly structured. It's that structure what I think I didn't enjoy as much. |
RebelPandaSFan said: To answer this I suggest you watch megalo box nomad, an anime which a level above cowboy Bebop If this means what I think it means. 10/10 joke. |
| More anime produced = More likely to see generic shit for profits. |
alshu said: jal90 said: isn't Kino no Tabi a light novel? And the 2003 adaptation by Ryuutarou Nakamura who takes some liberties with the source is praised way more that the canon one from 2017. On the other hand being prejudice against certain format (like light novels) sounds wrong. Maybe we should talk about them case by case. that would explain why the 2003 version is so, so, so much better apart from the fact that Ryuutarou Nakamura is a talented director while the 2017 version was directed by a god-knows-who no name |
I plan to watch it. The joke was that Megalo Box exists as a celebration of the 50th anniversary of Ashita no Joe. It takes the general plot and reworks it into a new setting. Your praise for Megalo Box is inadvertently praise for the timelessness of a series from 1970. |
Inanilmaz said: Its Fact unfortunately. Pre 2010 was amazing especially if you count in the source/adaption (manga). Can u elaborate, please? I'm watching stuff from 2000 and its meh except for 1 anime. |
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| Satoshi Kon is dead and never coming back. Miyazaki has retired. Anno might release the new Eva film at some point but it's not gonna be the same as watching the TV show and then end of Evangelion. What I mean is that there is good anime being made but if you liked something in particular about the 'best' older anime, chances are that isn't being included in the 'best' modern anime so you won't like them as much. Nowadays a 10/10 anime means something different to the old 10/10s, they don't really compare. Edit: Okay so Miyazaki is no longer retired but he's very old lol. |
marcoosioMay 17, 2021 3:39 PM
marcoosio said: Satoshi Kon is dead and never coming back. Miyazaki has retired. Anno might release the new Eva film at some point but it's not gonna be the same as watching the TV show and then end of Evangelion. What I mean is that there is good anime being made but if you liked something in particular about the 'best' older anime, chances are that isn't being included in the 'best' modern anime so you won't like them as much. Nowadays a 10/10 anime means something different to the old 10/10s, they don't really compare. Edit: Okay so Miyazaki is no longer retired but he's very old lol. What do u think about Junji Ito works? |
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Nurguburu said: marcoosio said: Satoshi Kon is dead and never coming back. Miyazaki has retired. Anno might release the new Eva film at some point but it's not gonna be the same as watching the TV show and then end of Evangelion. What I mean is that there is good anime being made but if you liked something in particular about the 'best' older anime, chances are that isn't being included in the 'best' modern anime so you won't like them as much. Nowadays a 10/10 anime means something different to the old 10/10s, they don't really compare. Edit: Okay so Miyazaki is no longer retired but he's very old lol. What do u think about Junji Ito works? I haven't read any of his works just yet, I've only heard that Uzumaki is supposed to be really good. |
| I'd say it's a myth that anime just became worse after some arbitrary point in time that apparently separates new and old anime. Whichever year you pick as the year when old anime ended and new anime started, there's gonna be about as much trash on both sides. I, for one, don't really care to think about much about which year was better or supposed golden ages or whatever, and just watch anime. Ghemotoc said: I read Fate's screenshots of the english translation. That's enough, I'm not sure I wanna go further when Fate is actually considered a good VN lol. This is like not reading a book because there's a typo on the credits page. |
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