Horimiya
GoshaX said: I won't comment on their relationship but it is quite obvious to me that you are a really toxic person.To all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now.  |
| "Why you don't like something I like, you must be immature!" Dude, do you realise that people have different tastes? Yes, there are good things in Horimia. But there are bad things. And it is up to your personal preference if good stuff outweights bad stuff. For you it does. For me it does not. No point in raging about it. You can ask WHY people think this way, you can try to explain your point and persuade them - but you can't just say "like the show" and everyone will do just that. |
| This logic DOES NOT check out in the slightest. You are saying if you have no experience in something, you have no reason to comment. Ok, Explain people thinking art looks good. Explain people who have on political decisions. Explain how domestic violence is hated by people who have never been in a relationship. I mean, nice bait if this is. |
| People cry about the most stupid shit these days... like if some fictional characters are in a "toxic" relationship or not. I give up. And to the people calling this relationship toxic, just stop and don't embarrass yourself further. |
| Show me who is saying that horimiya is bad because 'Hori is in and unhealthy relationship' most people who don't like it are complaining about other things |
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| Finally. Good statement. I've read and watched so much toxic shite (and i like it, duh.), i am wheezing while reading threads and comments how Horimiya is so toxic lol. XD |
GoshaX said: People that start thread like that aren't even 18 years which made me laugh so hard. I've seen 'people that aren't even 18 years' act much more mature than you. |
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| The amount of hot takes in this thread is mind boggling. This is a show about a high school relationship. Stop thinking so deep into it. And the thing about her kink is supposed to be humorous. If you're thinking about how she's forcing it on him then you're missing the point. |
GoshaX said: To all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now. Ngl to you mate I think it's because people have a different opinion to you on what relationships should entail. In this thread you are acting like you're objectively correct and it's coming off as quite pretentious. Just let people have their own takes and don't just attack them for it lol |
| The amount of hot takes in this thread is mind boggling. Stop taking everything so seriously. The part about her kink is supposed to be humorous. If you're sitting there thinking about how "she's forcing it on him" then you're missing the point entirely. It isn't supposed to be serious. This isn't a drama. |
GoshaX said: To all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now.  30limit....................... |
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| I guess by this logic, we need to make sure all the doctors, therapists, counselors, etc. of the world need to have relationship experience before they handle anything relating to a relationship. I'm not claiming any of us hold any of those titles, but that is what the logic suggests. I'd gladly go schedule a doctor's appointment, but I can't be sure that my doctor has relationship experience... oops. |
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vestun said: I haven't seem Horimiya yet. Is it good? I've seen a lot of people hyping it up lately. It's probably the best romcom we've had in a long time man. In some ways it's generic but the characters feel pretty fleshed out. So it's worth the watch imo. |
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| anime was supposed to be for watching (not for getting relation tips). So a person who watches romance anime doesn't have to be in a relationship. Whether "horimiya is good or bad?" that a different topic entirely which is related to watching experience rather than relationship experience. |
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| Thank you so much op.You're now showing the toxic side of Horimiya's fandom.Also why only Horimiya's getting so hated because it's generic?Why don't other shounen get hated like Jujutsu Kaisen,Mob psycho 100,etc?Even they are generic but they don't seem to get so hated like Horimiya. |
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GoshaX said: geez you're being childish fighting over fictional characters relationship and none of your argument makes senseTo all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now. |
| Horimiya is a really good anime People who hate it are morons |
WHAT A LAUGHABLE ATTEMPT. YOU SHOULD JUST STAY WHERE YOU ARE, GROVELING AT MY FEET P.S. PLEASE HELP ME GAIN MORE PROFILE VIEWS |
| Okay so I have never been in a relationship so I get my dose of romance only from fiction. That said, I have read the Horimiya manga before till chapter 122 and I gave up after that. While I don't hate it, I don't understand why people find it so good. It is certainly not a realistic portrayal of romance. Substantial romance material felt like it was put on hold with few scraps here and there with the rest being slice of life. While I am fine with the SoL part of it in general too much of it made me lose interest and I felt let down by a romance where they literally don't face any difficulties. |
| Best ending line in anime history = "My name is Saiki Kusuo. I am a psychic." |
| I mean, it is a toxic relationship, but it's not a bad show because of it. This show portrays two people who are novice to the experience of dating, thus they do not know the rules and boundaries typically seen in relationships. Even with the anime exaggeration of comedic events, it still portrays a realistic relationship of teens fucking up. For example, they don't really build trust from their communication, and instead build jealousy and create embarrassing situations to their partner. This isn't a portrayal of a healthy relationship, but instead a messy one that typically occurs from having no experience. It isn't a bad quality to portray a toxic relationship; bad experiences should be allowed to be shown to an audience. Toxic things don't mean a bad show, they aren't interchangeable ideas. Also, I disagree with your notion that people can't comment and provide good insight if they haven't dated. After all, hindsight is 20/20. People don't need to have experience to tell if something is healthy or not. Just like how you don't need to be a doctor (the mangaka) to know if your heart treatment is going well (the audience, because we're consuming the content, but we're not in the doctor's surgical procedure capabilities/story creation process). Heck, it's common for researchers to bring outsiders in on purpose because their insight can bring a new angle and develop their paper further. So yeah, I don't like your argument in the first post. So, you might ask, how would you portray a healthy relationship? From me being in relationships, I have come to learn my own way in how to have a strong healthy relationship with my partner. When I first meet my partner, I tell them 3 qualities that I look for both of us to have to each other: communication, understanding, and trust. We communicate to each other our feelings and boundaries. From then, we establish an understanding of a clear line or like/dislike. Once we communicate to understand each other, we build up a trust system--the more we listen to each other, the more trust we establish with one another because I know my partner won't cross the line. If they do, I tell them, they understand and listen and change their behaviour, simple as that. This is doubly so when things get more sexual; I put my body to the trust of another person, making me incredibly vulnerable. If things go too far, there's no ifs or buts, we don't go through with it. If both partners don't consent, off the table. Thus, you better believe I need to have good trust with my partner. |
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GoshaX said: she is toxic and quite annoying also. well, most wemen are but usually they try to suppress this while in relationship (at least early on). this is ok for the comedy purpouse but irl her behavior would be considered a red flagTo all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now.] |
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GoshaX said: To all the people saying that Hori is toxic and they are not in a healthy relationship, I 100% bet you never had a relationship in your life. If you never had a relationship in your life how could you even comment on a relationship? How could you know that happens in a relationship? When I see the other post I question the reality of the universe. Someone needs to go set up a doctor's appointment now. How can you just assume that ALL commenters never had a relationship lol On another note there can be all sorts of relationships IRL, some similar to this one, some good, some bad. It's a show anyway and if some people can't enjoy well, no one's forcing them to watch it. |
| To say that you must have a relationship to understand a relationship in an anime is ridiculous. Also so much controversy for this is a bit absurd |
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| I mean is the kind of toxicity that you would expect from teenagers living their first love so thats not a big deal, I just think is an average anime that looks pretty. |
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| Woah, this post is literally "LOL IF U DON'T LIKE HORIMIYA THEN U R A FKNG VIRGIN LOL LOL GET SOME HELP". Shame on you. Also, u r watching (and gave a 7 to) Kaifuku, and wanna give moral advice about how normal relationships work? Ok cuck. Oh, and before u start attacking me, yes, I have been in a few relationships, but still, I bet you still think i'm fkng crazy for thinking Hori is a really toxic and masochist girl, or that I'm lying and I'm a virgin because I believe in NORMAL relationships, but anyway, I don't really care what you think about me, I just came here to laugh at this post. You should get some help. |
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| i mean ppl can have their opinions. As someone else stated you should judge what the person says, not on what "relationship experience" they have. Just sounds a bit stupid. |
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| Dude you're a grown man, quit throwing a fit just cuz people don't like a relationship/show lol. |
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KenKaneki255 said: Wow...I'll never be able to say anything about it now because i've been single all my life...how sad..what am I going to do now? As our great lord Sonic The Headgehog said If you have an anime profile pic your opinion doesn't count If you want the sauce I can also provide it. |
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| nah the shows just boring af, if i wanted romance in my life i'd do it person not watch some clunky representation of modern teenagers bounce around romantic attraction and some kinda weird fetishist bs |
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GoshaX said: Deknijff said: What you just said is completely bullshit, no one in the world will take you serious if you have no experience on the topic. When someone is saying stuff that they don't have the experience, we call that bullshit in real life.experience isn't needed necessarily when critiquing a relationship though  Do I need to have had a girlfriend to know Louise x Saito is unstable at times or something?  dont question the experience of the person critiquing, critic their critic if its bad or wrong factually So you are saying, i can't talk or criticize an anime like One Piece if i don't become a pirate myself? or i won't criticize dragon ball if i don't become strong enough to go around beating aliens and gods? or... I think its pretty clear the point. When criticizing stories, they are judged by their narrative value and whatever message it intends to deliver, and resemblances with reality are also important whenever the story lends itself for it (which i think might be the case of horimiya, since its a romance manga which is supposed to happen in the real world), you don't need to have experienced any of those things to understand their narrative weight or what they try to deliver. I mean, isn't fiction supposed to be a way to find new and unique experiences? you think someone who has been on relationships of this kind before would be more interested on watching this than you are? PD: Just to clarify, i have only watched the first 1-2 episodes of the anime, but i think that was about enough to know where the anime was leading to, and its not that i don't like these kind of depictions, but instead because most shoujo manga/anime work the same way, and i just dont find any interest on it. Just my point of view. |
error5000Mar 21, 2021 6:56 AM
Scordolo said: Thank you so much op.You're now showing the toxic side of Horimiya's fandom.Also why only Horimiya's getting so hated because it's generic?Why don't other shounen get hated like Jujutsu Kaisen,Mob psycho 100,etc?Even they are generic but they don't seem to get so hated like Horimiya. You know that's a good point. I think many people are just jumping on the toxic bandwagon just because it has a high score. |
foxsurprise said: I mean, it is a toxic relationship, but it's not a bad show because of it. This show portrays two people who are novice to the experience of dating, thus they do not know the rules and boundaries typically seen in relationships. Even with the anime exaggeration of comedic events, it still portrays a realistic relationship of teens fucking up. For example, they don't really build trust from their communication, and instead build jealousy and create embarrassing situations to their partner. This isn't a portrayal of a healthy relationship, but instead a messy one that typically occurs from having no experience. It isn't a bad quality to portray a toxic relationship; bad experiences should be allowed to be shown to an audience. Toxic things don't mean a bad show, they aren't interchangeable ideas. Also, I disagree with your notion that people can't comment and provide good insight if they haven't dated. After all, hindsight is 20/20. People don't need to have experience to tell if something is healthy or not. Just like how you don't need to be a doctor (the mangaka) to know if your heart treatment is going well (the audience, because we're consuming the content, but we're not in the doctor's surgical procedure capabilities/story creation process). Heck, it's common for researchers to bring outsiders in on purpose because their insight can bring a new angle and develop their paper further. So yeah, I don't like your argument in the first post. So, you might ask, how would you portray a healthy relationship? From me being in relationships, I have come to learn my own way in how to have a strong healthy relationship with my partner. When I first meet my partner, I tell them 3 qualities that I look for both of us to have to each other: communication, understanding, and trust. We communicate to each other our feelings and boundaries. From then, we establish an understanding of a clear line or like/dislike. Once we communicate to understand each other, we build up a trust system--the more we listen to each other, the more trust we establish with one another because I know my partner won't cross the line. If they do, I tell them, they understand and listen and change their behaviour, simple as that. This is doubly so when things get more sexual; I put my body to the trust of another person, making me incredibly vulnerable. If things go too far, there's no ifs or buts, we don't go through with it. If both partners don't consent, off the table. Thus, you better believe I need to have good trust with my partner. I agree with you. Also I think people are taking comedy too seriously. |
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