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Do you consider SAO to be an Isekai?
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Feb 15, 2021 1:25 PM

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Ciezul said:
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I don't know what you mean by mentioning Log Horizon.

Anyhow, SAO 1 takes Kirito's consciousness out of the real world and into another world. And he's stuck there. Considering that his "real" body is not much different from a lifeless husk at this point, that counts.


Log Horizon is also considered as Isekai, which it actually is. Like SAO, in Log Horizon, players trapped in a game. But unlikely SAO, people, real actual people were trapped and they couldn't came back even if they wanted to.

SAO s1, has same premise but Kiriro did came back and from S2 they can entire anytime in VIRTUAL WORLD, thus it is not an Isekai.
Yeah, SAO 1 counts but SAO 2 doesn't.
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Feb 15, 2021 1:27 PM
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GlennMagusHarvey said:
Ciezul said:


No, Log Horizon classified Isekai than SAO. SAO isn't take you to otherworld like InuYasha did. It just take your mind. And so, no matter how you present SAO isn't an Isekai.
I don't know what you mean by mentioning Log Horizon.

Anyhow, SAO 1 takes Kirito's consciousness out of the real world and into another world. And he's stuck there. Considering that his "real" body is not much different from a lifeless husk at this point, that counts.
no there just projecting waves to kirito's brain.
Feb 15, 2021 1:29 PM

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KuroudoAkabane said:
GlennMagusHarvey said:
SAO's influence on the isekai trend is pretty unmistakeable.
yes sao is to anime what covid19 is t the real world
I don't think that works unless you're just gratuitously hating on SAO.

SageMode1234 said:
GlennMagusHarvey said:
I don't know what you mean by mentioning Log Horizon.

Anyhow, SAO 1 takes Kirito's consciousness out of the real world and into another world. And he's stuck there. Considering that his "real" body is not much different from a lifeless husk at this point, that counts.
no there just projecting waves to kirito's brain.
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Feb 15, 2021 1:31 PM

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Isekai is a subgenre of fantasy in which a character is suddenly transported from their world into a new or unfamiliar one.

That's not really the case with SAO.

But who cares, I take SAO as a Isekai. Could care less if I'm wrong or right.

Feb 15, 2021 3:44 PM

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No, isekai mean another world. sao more likely scifi genre instead of isekai because it's about future gaming system. Sao not moving your whole body to digital sao world, the gear just make your brain to control the characters in game. Theres already machine that can make you able to conrol character in game by brainwave. but for visualy showing it maybe still no, this tech still not present atm but for sure its not isekai because the world is created by developer on his own world and player can control the character by brainwave and have... you can say more advanced vr console.
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Feb 15, 2021 3:47 PM
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I will put it this way

Sword Art Online IS an Isekai - but a very weak definition of the genre, you could be forgiven for not viewing it as such since its an MMO Game, and the characters technically can go in and out of the world as they please.
Feb 15, 2021 11:29 PM

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I think depending on the person’s answer also tells you whether or not they believe whether the mind or the body makes for one’s identity.
Feb 16, 2021 12:12 AM
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With over 200 votes the score is about 3-1 in favour of SAO being an Isekai. This is consistent with things like Wikipedia and the top X Isekat series lists on websites and on YouTube. Note also the in Japan SAO is considered to be an Isekai. Clearly a descriptive approach the the definition of Isekai ends up with SAO an Isekai.

Those who favour a prescriptive definition almost invariably take the following approach. "Isekal" is translated as "another world". This translation is considered simple, perfect and controlling of the meaning of "Isekai Genre". There is seldom any doubt as to whether a VR should be considered "another world" though there is no consensus as to whether the answer is yes or no. There are also a couple of statements of the form "Any Isekai must have X attribute" made with no justification.

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Feb 25, 2021 10:35 PM
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sao nothing more just being stuck in game

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Feb 25, 2021 10:42 PM

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I think SAO is not an isekai just in the sense that although they're mentally in a virtual world (and not a physical one), they physically aren't.

Feb 25, 2021 10:49 PM

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Dunno... I think its just like living a world inside a game... it just another version of
Playstation VR but without a static mode on your body unlike SAO has..

Feb 25, 2021 10:56 PM

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Kirito and the others actually never got transported to another world or reality.

The virtual world they live in still exists on Earth so unless that game system gets isekai'd to a fantasy world, SAO will never be an isekai

Edit: Wording mistake (again)
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Feb 25, 2021 11:03 PM
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It called fantasy, not isekai. Just because it has some isekai generic plot, doesn't mean it isekai. Ex: danmachi, bofuri, etc
Feb 25, 2021 11:12 PM

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A gender is normally self-called and for it to have such a gender it must not have all the standards of the genre by obligation. An Isekai is not about the progress of the protagonist, but rather builds the foundations for a protagonist to evolve and discover himself.

It's like the movie 'Twilight'. It is a "vampire" movie, but not takes advantage of all the potential that the genre has. SAO is still an Isekai because obviously the author wanted to make an Isekai, that does not mean that he took advantage of the full potential of the genre.
Feb 25, 2021 11:38 PM
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Would Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho be considered Isekai then since there are multiple worlds?
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.
Feb 25, 2021 11:40 PM

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sao is an isekai in my opinion. kirito is in another world, living his life there, which is what isekai is.
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Apr 1, 2021 4:30 PM

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Well yeah.

Virtual reality into an online world.

That counts as isekai.

Hop from one world to another.

Apr 1, 2021 4:35 PM

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I believe it is. It’s near impossible to see how a normal human being in a fantasy setting isn’t isekai.

This debate is similar to arguing whether a trash bag is blue or black. Like SAO it doesn’t matter, it’s trash and isn’t worth your time.
Apr 1, 2021 4:41 PM
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I believe so, yes.

Many people claim that it isn't because the body is right here, on Earth, so technically he never gets transported anywhere.

To me, that is completely irrelevant. His mind is in another plane of existence. And that is all I need to know.
The very essence of the character exists solely in another world. And it can die there, too.

It's an isekai, and a trash one at that.
Apr 1, 2021 6:04 PM

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How do we know other isekai characters aren't also in virtual worlds? Maybe they died and had stuff implanted in their brains/eyeballs.
Apr 1, 2021 6:51 PM

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LMAO so many people answered yes? Did they even see the anime or just watched it at incomprehensible 2x speed. SAO is a VR game based on NerveGear headmounted display, not an isekai. Kirito and co even exit the VR world to dabble their toes in the real world...
I can't wait to play as Rex in Ace Combat 8! YEEHAW! About F time!

Outta my way! Top 10% here & I wasn't even trying you TOURISTS! Top 3% Isekai trash lover, dayum sure!

Top 11% reader, mainly manhwa, that's surprising to say the least o_O LMAO wtf top 0.4% 4 reverse harem. Top 3% Isekai again lol, what a coincidence!


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