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Jan 20, 2021 9:03 PM
#201
I think the rape scenes in censored version were longer compared to the uncensored version. Some scenes are missing in the uncensored version hmm. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:11 PM
#202
its hilarious how its cool to shit on and criticize terrible anime in general, but when it's a rape fantasy REEE any criticism is automatically SJW clout lmao. just straight comedy. i'll stay in the forum at least for the insane rationalizations for this. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:11 PM
#203
TheDopealicious said: . if you talk about "political correctness", "sjw's", and "communism" you are a dumbass, plain a simple. Because ... you don't like it? Fuck the pro-censorship crowd. |
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:18 PM
#204
FFCreations said: Opticflash said: FFCreations said: firstawahono said: Light kills many people : wow death note is a masterpiece Eren kills many people : wow aot is a masterpiece Keyaru fcks a princess : this anime is a garbage Hmmmm, double standard However, censored version is very bad Well no, no double standard at all actually. What many people fail to understand is the actual writing that goes behind their action. Redo does it the most poorly (BY FAR) out of those you mentioned. Redo basically just skims over his life like "Yeah these people did cartoonishly evil things to you, you are fully justified to do whatever you want now" and it just turns into extremely edgy revenge porn power fantasy. Death Note for instance actually gives proper time to establish Light as a character. And he doesn't turn into a raging murdering psychopath the second he picks up the book either. We learn about his motives. His principles and morals. They explore how the murders actually affects him as a person. And as for Attack on Titan. Well I actually think Eren is a poorly written character (and AoT as a whole) so I do believe his mass murdering is dumb as shit too. But at the very least, put next to Redo, it's a masterpiece. Because once again, we follow Eren as a character. We find out his motives, morals and principles. Redo of Healer gives the absolute bare minimum of exposition so that they can as cheaply as possible make the MC "sympathetic". And then they jump as quickly as possible into the thing people want to wank off to. The revenge porn. But it just doesn't work. And then they just add onto the bad things that happened to him with flashback (the cheapest writer's tool in the book). It's so poorly made that you end up not feeling for the MC one bit. He's just a cardboard cutout that people can self insert themselves into to live out their power fantasy. And that's exactly why Redo comes off as distasteful, because it's made purely for shock. Not to advance or tell a story where these elements are a necessity. It's murder for murder's sake. It's torture for torture's sake. It's rape for rape's sake. We learn almost NOTHING about Light's character. All we understand is he as a very unorthodox sense of justice, that's it. No explanation about he became that way whatsoever, no backstory. Why does he feel the need to kill criminals? Shouldn't being locked up for life in prison suffice? Why doesn't he think like most people in society? His mindset is superficial as his reasons are not expounded on. What are you even talking about? Did you actually watch Death Note? We learn a ton about Light's character. Especially during his interactions with L and Ryuk. They make it very clear why he kills criminals. And most importantly, he develops as a character. He doesn't just start being a murdering psychopath. He's quite hesitant and careful with murdering through the book early on. He's reluctant our outright refuses to kill anyone he doesn't deem that they deserve it. And by the end of the series he has become a complete narcissist who sees himself as a God with no problem to kill the people that get in his way. They very clearly establish his sense of justice, motives and what his morals are (of course these develops as the story does, him becoming more corrupted). They give his character a good contrast by having work besides his father (and the rest of the task force, L included). Where they each have a very strong sense of justice. But how they act upon their view of justice is vastly different. One important moment to remember since you doubt his character is when he relinquish the notebook and in turn, his memories as well. You can see his past self shine through very strongly. When it wasn't corrupted by the book. It feels like you haven't even watched Death Note? He's the exact same person in episode 1 as he was in episode 37. There was nothing in the anime that shows any change in his thinking; no conflicts, no "but should I really be doing this...?". He does not question his morality. The whole anime was about him killing and manipulating people. The only thing that changed was his facial expression and eye color to reflect a deranged individual by the end. Furthermore, as I mentioned previously why he thinks the way he does initially is not explained. Was it childhood trauma? Was it the fact that he had first hand experience with some of the most heinous criminals? Redo of Healer on the other hand rushes the MC's torment and revenge. The characters are similar in depth. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:18 PM
#205
NecroticOrkun said: I agree. I am half sad and half satisfied. Winter 2021 Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi Winter 2020 Ishuzoku Reviewers Winter 2019 Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari Its just winter curse. I am waiting winter 2022. Lol now you said that it makes sense, is Shield Hero season 2 date airing already announced? If no, it will be good addition if they air ir winter next year haha.. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:24 PM
#206
uncensored gang I was amazed how they didn't hold back with it, and how tf this aired on TV, sometimes I question japanese mentality which is amazing definitely going to watch it more |
Jan 20, 2021 9:25 PM
#208
MegamiRem said: I like how she went from a high tier bitch to a high tier waifu fast. All it took was some healing kek. Well like the quotes: "If it ain't broke why fix it? If it's broken, fix it harder." But for this case: If it's still broken, destroy and make a completely new thing from it, that more useful. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:29 PM
#209
Pre_Yum said: I guess it has already been started. Twitter's gonna be blown up for sure. And this isn't even that bad. Worse is yet to come. Technically it's yearly winter routine from now, 2 years ago we got shield hero, a year later ishizoku reviewer, and now this anime, damn the twitter must be really busy right now, i haven't checked it yet lol.. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:30 PM
#210
Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT |
Jan 20, 2021 9:34 PM
#211
Great episode, uncensored version is better than censored one for sure~ They adapted the rape scene more better than the manga rape scene. Those male soldiers really doesn't care to become a gay for increasing their ability.... I can't believe this is an anime rather than hentai. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:42 PM
#212
Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:42 PM
#213
Superismaeel said: This aired on television?!- Imagine your partner coming home for a long work hour he done Coming back for you to be watching That.. You realize anime like this only airing at midnight or in very late hour right? Or you just don't have any idea? Is it the “People love woman abuse and breaking woman fingers” audience? Ah yes, just ignore the fact that the MC faced way worse shits and experiences more than those women, nitpicking too much? It not even a good light novel/manga too I read the manga version of it and it’s just pure trash that is looking for shock value. 0/10 for this episode "Hey, i know this series looks very shady and not "family-friendly" looking and i am probably gonna hate it, but since i am a stubborn person i still read and watch it anyway and being upset about it later because it turns out exactly like what i've expected" Good lord, people nowadays.. Let me guess, you didn't know semi-hentai and hentai also exist as well huh, and some of them even being aired on tv too fyi.. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:49 PM
#214
OH MY FREAKING GOD..... this second episode fits my taste to the EXACT SPECIFICATION. Yes I know, I am a psychopath for saying that, but WOW, this second ep is gotta be one of my favorite in my entire anime watching history. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:50 PM
#215
Two episodes and it's already better than all of Attack on Titan That cockslapping though |
Jan 20, 2021 9:52 PM
#216
Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:53 PM
#217
Voidian said: Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT Voidian said: Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT Exactly. And then the outrage crowd has the gall to call others 'incels' or 'rightwingers'. Honestly, the pro-censorship culture in the west has become sickening. |
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:54 PM
#218
TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. |
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Jan 20, 2021 9:55 PM
#219
RefreshNerves said: XDDDDDDD IKR LMFAO BRUHTwo episodes and it's already better than all of Attack on Titan That cockslapping though |
Jan 20, 2021 9:59 PM
#220
Opticflash said: FFCreations said: Opticflash said: FFCreations said: firstawahono said: Light kills many people : wow death note is a masterpiece Eren kills many people : wow aot is a masterpiece Keyaru fcks a princess : this anime is a garbage Hmmmm, double standard However, censored version is very bad Well no, no double standard at all actually. What many people fail to understand is the actual writing that goes behind their action. Redo does it the most poorly (BY FAR) out of those you mentioned. Redo basically just skims over his life like "Yeah these people did cartoonishly evil things to you, you are fully justified to do whatever you want now" and it just turns into extremely edgy revenge porn power fantasy. Death Note for instance actually gives proper time to establish Light as a character. And he doesn't turn into a raging murdering psychopath the second he picks up the book either. We learn about his motives. His principles and morals. They explore how the murders actually affects him as a person. And as for Attack on Titan. Well I actually think Eren is a poorly written character (and AoT as a whole) so I do believe his mass murdering is dumb as shit too. But at the very least, put next to Redo, it's a masterpiece. Because once again, we follow Eren as a character. We find out his motives, morals and principles. Redo of Healer gives the absolute bare minimum of exposition so that they can as cheaply as possible make the MC "sympathetic". And then they jump as quickly as possible into the thing people want to wank off to. The revenge porn. But it just doesn't work. And then they just add onto the bad things that happened to him with flashback (the cheapest writer's tool in the book). It's so poorly made that you end up not feeling for the MC one bit. He's just a cardboard cutout that people can self insert themselves into to live out their power fantasy. And that's exactly why Redo comes off as distasteful, because it's made purely for shock. Not to advance or tell a story where these elements are a necessity. It's murder for murder's sake. It's torture for torture's sake. It's rape for rape's sake. We learn almost NOTHING about Light's character. All we understand is he as a very unorthodox sense of justice, that's it. No explanation about he became that way whatsoever, no backstory. Why does he feel the need to kill criminals? Shouldn't being locked up for life in prison suffice? Why doesn't he think like most people in society? His mindset is superficial as his reasons are not expounded on. What are you even talking about? Did you actually watch Death Note? We learn a ton about Light's character. Especially during his interactions with L and Ryuk. They make it very clear why he kills criminals. And most importantly, he develops as a character. He doesn't just start being a murdering psychopath. He's quite hesitant and careful with murdering through the book early on. He's reluctant our outright refuses to kill anyone he doesn't deem that they deserve it. And by the end of the series he has become a complete narcissist who sees himself as a God with no problem to kill the people that get in his way. They very clearly establish his sense of justice, motives and what his morals are (of course these develops as the story does, him becoming more corrupted). They give his character a good contrast by having work besides his father (and the rest of the task force, L included). Where they each have a very strong sense of justice. But how they act upon their view of justice is vastly different. One important moment to remember since you doubt his character is when he relinquish the notebook and in turn, his memories as well. You can see his past self shine through very strongly. When it wasn't corrupted by the book. It feels like you haven't even watched Death Note? He's the exact same person in episode 1 as he was in episode 37. There was nothing in the anime that shows any change in his thinking; no conflicts, no "but should I really be doing this...?". He does not question his morality. The whole anime was about him killing and manipulating people. The only thing that changed was his facial expression and eye color to reflect a deranged individual by the end. Furthermore, as I mentioned previously why he thinks the way he does initially is not explained. Was it childhood trauma? Was it the fact that he had first hand experience with some of the most heinous criminals? Redo of Healer on the other hand rushes the MC's torment and revenge. The characters are similar in depth. Except that he isn't the same? His character in episode 1 was not willing to kill civilians but by episode 37 he is. And his thinking does actually change. He is shown to care about his family early on in the show. Going as far as to protect them, despite knowing that would be working against his goal. But later on it is very clear that he is even willing to sacrifice them if it means working towards his ultimate goal. Once again, just take a look at when he relinquish the book and loses his memory. You'll realize the vast difference in character. It is shown that the intoxicating power of the book is what deeply corrupts him and warps his view on humanity. As for why he thinks the way he thinks from the start. That's not because of some childhood trauma or anything. It is simply that due to his intellect and sense of superiority he looks down on criminals even before he has gotten the book. It is just that the corrupting power of the book amplified that personality, since he got a tool that gave him the capability to take action to make the world "better". They establish that quite clearly from the very first moment we see him. |
Subarashii |
Jan 20, 2021 9:59 PM
#221
MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. Smokin' that strawman, missing that sociological point ayy. You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole with me bro, you might have to reconsider some of your paradigms. I don't give a shit about censoring this anime, nor do I think it will cause people to rape others, but COLLECTIVELY the kind of people that this culture perpetuates, it's no surprise there's a lot of creeps there. Same shit anywhere actually, but I've seen it first hand. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:02 PM
#222
I'm not sure if I'm glad that I watched the uncensored version because this shit was crazy. Now that's something I'll not be able to unsee for quite some time smh. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:02 PM
#223
Voidian said: Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT Yeah, that's what we call double standards. Also, there's the fact that the rape scene of the girl was dragged out but for the MC we just got glimpses of it. If there was a scene in the anime that lasted for 4 minutes where the MC was begging, crying, screaming while he was raped, I think people wouldn't have a strong reaction. The anime itself downplayed the rape the MC went through so people are just reacting on their emotions. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:03 PM
#224
Edgy but nice sweet revenge! shame looks like i'm gonna re-watch the uncensored version... 5/5. ButtSlapper said: meh who gives a shit about the plot its the same shit plagiarized from hentai games just go to gelbooru and fap on the uncensored clips gelbooru!? naahhh! i'd rather sadpanda! |
matias067Jan 20, 2021 10:15 PM
Jan 20, 2021 10:06 PM
#225
TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. Smokin' that strawman, missing that sociological point ayy. You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole with me bro, you might have to reconsider some of your paradigms. I don't give a shit about censoring this anime, nor do I think it will cause people to rape others, but COLLECTIVELY the kind of people that this culture perpetuates, it's no surprise there's a lot of creeps there. Same shit anywhere actually, but I've seen it first hand. So again: fictional rape causes real rape. You should stop. |
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:08 PM
#226
Victorious-Mind said: Voidian said: Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT Yeah, that's what we call double standards. Also, there's the fact that the rape scene of the girl was dragged out but for the MC we just got glimpses of it. If there was a scene in the anime that lasted for 4 minutes where the MC was begging, crying, screaming while he was raped, I think people wouldn't have a strong reaction. The anime itself downplayed the rape the MC went through so people are just reacting on their emotions. If the male character's being-raped was dragged out similar to the princess', we'd be watching an entire season of him getting raped ;/ |
If you haven't watched "Fantastic Children", don't talk about "best anime". Thank you. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:11 PM
#227
MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. Smokin' that strawman, missing that sociological point ayy. You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole with me bro, you might have to reconsider some of your paradigms. I don't give a shit about censoring this anime, nor do I think it will cause people to rape others, but COLLECTIVELY the kind of people that this culture perpetuates, it's no surprise there's a lot of creeps there. Same shit anywhere actually, but I've seen it first hand. So again: fictional rape causes real rape. You should stop. Or maybe a weird culture of incels who are the way the are for who-gives-a-shit reason, is being validated by stupid shit like this? That doesn't have to mean fictional rape directly causes real rape, but is a symptom of a misogynistic culture and pushing a bunch of stories like this unironically can perpetuate this weird culture? A long with a fuckton of other things "Nah bro cartoons don't cause rape they just cartoons" Way to be reductionist and misconstruing what I'm saying lmao, or maybe you're just that simple. Nuance is hard I'd imagine. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:15 PM
#228
MyllerPhiem said: Victorious-Mind said: Voidian said: Guy gets tortured, beated, raped by both men and women, over and over again, mindbroken, addicted, abused. -Nobody cares, not one peep. One girl gets a mild revenge -OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ABOMINATION OF AN ANIME, POOR GIRL, THIS IS NOT RIGHT Yeah, that's what we call double standards. Also, there's the fact that the rape scene of the girl was dragged out but for the MC we just got glimpses of it. If there was a scene in the anime that lasted for 4 minutes where the MC was begging, crying, screaming while he was raped, I think people wouldn't have a strong reaction. The anime itself downplayed the rape the MC went through so people are just reacting on their emotions. If the male character's being-raped was dragged out similar to the princess', we'd be watching an entire season of him getting raped ;/ I guess, and I'm not saying we should see more rape scenes or not. But if the rape MC went through was displayed just like the princess' was, then there wouldn't be so much outrage over the scene at the end. People MIGHT have felt bad for the MC after seeing him crying and begging etc. and MIGHT have been more inclined to think that that what he did was "okay" instead of screaming somewhere in threads and twtter. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:16 PM
#229
TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. Smokin' that strawman, missing that sociological point ayy. You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole with me bro, you might have to reconsider some of your paradigms. I don't give a shit about censoring this anime, nor do I think it will cause people to rape others, but COLLECTIVELY the kind of people that this culture perpetuates, it's no surprise there's a lot of creeps there. Same shit anywhere actually, but I've seen it first hand. So again: fictional rape causes real rape. You should stop. Or maybe a weird culture of incels who are the way the are for who-gives-a-shit reason, is being validated by stupid shit like this? That doesn't have to mean fictional rape directly causes real rape, but is a symptom of a misogynistic culture and pushing a bunch of stories like this unironically can perpetuate this weird culture? A long with a fuckton of other things "Nah bro cartoons don't cause rape they just cartoons" Way to be reductionist and misconstruing what I'm saying lmao, or maybe you're just that simple. Nuance is hard I'd imagine. "look at all those buzzwords I know I'm so smart" go back to your blue bird website |
Jan 20, 2021 10:18 PM
#230
erm... i don't get it... how is changing her into a waifu without her being her... revenge? unless she's in the backseat of her own body it doesn't make sense. p.s. This whole raging and crying about 'revenge' being bad, i strongly disagree. i wish we had eye for an eye, our society has been brainwashed so hard into thinking revenge is bad and criminals are only 'poor lost sheep' that need to be reunited into society. whole families lives destroyed and the bad guy gets a slap on the wrist and a payed hotel, after they get out they can either find the countless organizations that will guide them for reintegration or go back among the same society class of the ones who's lives they ruined belong to and ruin even more among them. its bullshit, wanna bet we started getting those rules because corrupt higher ups didn't want lower class to get their just revenge. When was the last time someone welloff up high got robbed, their shit stolen, raped or murdered by a random bad person. its always happens in the same class pool where criminals are re-released. cus those making the rules don't care. that crap only happens to us 'lower' class people and we have been brainwashed into thinking its just and right. every time harsher punishments come up in politics they say "it has been proven harsher punishments and sentences don't work"... when... when did they try that... tell me... don't give me middle ages crap... thats not the same environment and variables as today, they didn't have the same law enforcement density, visual aids (cams) and whatnot. just another lie to make their own sentences lower IF they ever get caught, they always get of easy even for similar crimes, and we all collectively go "well that aint right, thats unfair" but we can't and don't do anything about it, because we are sheep we have no claws. this rant went on way longer then i initially wanted, but damnit this is me thinking, for myself. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:19 PM
#231
TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: MyllerPhiem said: TheDopealicious said: Victorious-Mind said: Just watched the uncensored version and... sigh. I don't know where to start honestly. For one, I felt like the MC's whole suffering was just glossed over. I know everyone is having a discussion of "rape is fine if you rape the person who raped you" vs "rape is bad no matter what" all over threads, but I think that people wouldn't have much of a reaction to this if it was done well. There are anime that are very dark and have rape scenes in them, and no one gave much of a reaction to those. One example is Banana Fish, where the MC had gone through over 10 years of sexual slavery. The anime itself has 2-3 rape scenes. Yet, because the subject matter was handled properly, no one batted an eye over it. Yes we would still talk about the morality of the situation but if we actually spent enough time seeing the MC's pain, trauma, suffering, begging etc. this would have been better. Instead, we got a short montage of what happened to him, at some points it just felt cringy and even the scene with the princess at the end... Like it felt distasteful. And no, not because it was rape. It was edgy and it was trying to get a reaction out of the watchers - which happened. This felt like the same outrage that happened with Goblin Slayer. I remember being actually affected by scenes in BF yet I just cringed with this one. And it COULD have been good. Still keeping the rape scene, I think it could have been good, again, if we had enough development, enough time to know the MC and enough time to see his suffering, point of view, and sympathize with him. I know the rape of males is very downplayed EVERYWHERE but I went into this expecting the anime to do that part well (showing the trauma that male victims go through etc.) but was disappointed. There are anime that displays the trauma male victims go through with sexual violence like Banana Fish, Berserk and also Happy Sugar Life (though I haven't seen the last one). This could have been one of them but I guess I just expected too much from Isekai Trash. I don't think I've seen so much edge in a show ever since watching Akame ga Kill back in 2014. Yes exactly. It's literally because this is just a power fantasy with a half assed unrealistic justification for the most depraved shit. It doesn't "shock" me, but it's just terrible writing. You just know the person writing this has no empathy or social skills. It's embarrassing that anyone doesn't see how weird it is to genuinely think this is good as entertainment, even as porn lmao. And everyone who says "Japan thinks it's fine", nah I've lived there and there are lots of people there that think the amoral otaku rape culture is WEIRD and needs to tone down/ die out. "It's fiction hurrr" that's why Japan has so much sexual harassments LOL , dumb shit like this emboldens impressionable minds and strokes their frustration fantasies. Wow. This person just seriously said that fictional rape causes real rape. Chap, it's time to go off the internet. Smokin' that strawman, missing that sociological point ayy. You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole with me bro, you might have to reconsider some of your paradigms. I don't give a shit about censoring this anime, nor do I think it will cause people to rape others, but COLLECTIVELY the kind of people that this culture perpetuates, it's no surprise there's a lot of creeps there. Same shit anywhere actually, but I've seen it first hand. So again: fictional rape causes real rape. You should stop. Or maybe a weird culture of incels who are the way the are for who-gives-a-shit reason, is being validated by stupid shit like this? That doesn't have to mean fictional rape directly causes real rape, but is a symptom of a misogynistic culture and pushing a bunch of stories like this unironically can perpetuate this weird culture? A long with a fuckton of other things "Nah bro cartoons don't cause rape they just cartoons" Way to be reductionist and misconstruing what I'm saying lmao, or maybe you're just that simple. Nuance is hard I'd imagine. So fictional rape makes real people misogynistic? Your postings aren't getting better, chap. |
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Jan 20, 2021 10:20 PM
#232
Nah fam the whole idea of this story was doomed from the start. Rape is the main show, there's no justifying it, whether it was a man or woman this is just a weird dark fetishy concept with bad execution. Other rape scenes like Casca from Berserk worked because Griffith is a fucking asshole and it was never framed like a good thing. Nor was it the main show, Berserk is a whole ass dark fantasy that's mainly about Guts and him coping and struggling with tragedy. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:21 PM
#233
Well at least she made the correct decision to choose that "rod" thing ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). |
Jan 20, 2021 10:22 PM
#234
just watched the uncensored version and his revenge against flare is just too deep, you know that he hated Flare so much... and those scenes are being aired on TV... and this is not classified as a hentai... hahaha.. THOSE SENSITIVES RIGHT NOW ARE FOR SURE GOING TO TWITTER AND RANT how this one is being air on TV... im looking forward to episode 3.. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:22 PM
#235
@Myller LOL WTF? Are you okay? If you were in a math class you'd be that dude who's presented an integral problem and be like "ay im not gonna use Pythagorean theorm in the real world lmao". |
Jan 20, 2021 10:22 PM
#236
Aapjuh said: . p.s. This whole raging and crying about 'revenge' being bad, i strongly disagree. i wish we had eye for an eye, our society has been brainwashed so hard into thinking revenge is bad and criminals are only 'poor lost sheep' that need to be reunited into society. whole families lives destroyed and the bad guy gets a slap on the wrist and a payed hotel, after they get out they can either find the countless organizations that will guide them for reintegration or go back among the same society class of the ones who's lives they ruined belong to and ruin even more among them. its bullshit, wanna bet we started getting those rules because corrupt higher ups didn't want lower class to get their just revenge. When was the last time someone welloff up high got robbed, their shit stolen, raped or murdered by a random bad person. its always happens in the same class pool where criminals are re-released. cus those making the rules don't care. that crap only happens to us 'lower' class people and we have been brainwashed into thinking its just and right. every time harsher punishments come up in politics they say "it has been proven harsher punishments and sentences don't work"... when... when did they try that... tell me... don't give me middle ages crap... thats not the same environment and variables as today, they didn't have the same law enforcement density, visual aids (cams) and whatnot. just another lie to make their own sentences lower IF they ever get caught, they always get of easy even for similar crimes, and we all collectively go "well that aint right, thats unfair" but we can't and don't do anything about it, because we are sheep we have no claws. this rant went on way longer then i initially wanted, but damnit this is me thinking, for myself. Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. |
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Jan 20, 2021 10:24 PM
#237
ag_ said: Thanks for the brain damage. This weeks episode of "Rape Glorification" was horrendous. I'm making it a challenge to keep watching this trash. Note: it's not the abuse/revenge/rape that makes it bad, it's the fact that the rape is the center of his revenge. It's giving the message that rape is fine if someone rapes you first. Rape isn't ever good. No matter who it is. Also, before anyone calls me a SJW for this, I don't even agree with 90% of what they say. It's not hard to say rape is bad. I suggest you drop it as that's what the manga strongly focuses around, rape/torture and revenge. Since it disturbs you so much, I don't see any other worth while option than to stop watching and drop it. :) |
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Jan 20, 2021 10:24 PM
#238
MyllerPhiem said: Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. i don't get involved in any politics, group me where ever u want, label me as whatever, but prove me wrong then. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:25 PM
#239
MyllerPhiem said: Aapjuh said: . p.s. This whole raging and crying about 'revenge' being bad, i strongly disagree. i wish we had eye for an eye, our society has been brainwashed so hard into thinking revenge is bad and criminals are only 'poor lost sheep' that need to be reunited into society. whole families lives destroyed and the bad guy gets a slap on the wrist and a payed hotel, after they get out they can either find the countless organizations that will guide them for reintegration or go back among the same society class of the ones who's lives they ruined belong to and ruin even more among them. its bullshit, wanna bet we started getting those rules because corrupt higher ups didn't want lower class to get their just revenge. When was the last time someone welloff up high got robbed, their shit stolen, raped or murdered by a random bad person. its always happens in the same class pool where criminals are re-released. cus those making the rules don't care. that crap only happens to us 'lower' class people and we have been brainwashed into thinking its just and right. every time harsher punishments come up in politics they say "it has been proven harsher punishments and sentences don't work"... when... when did they try that... tell me... don't give me middle ages crap... thats not the same environment and variables as today, they didn't have the same law enforcement density, visual aids (cams) and whatnot. just another lie to make their own sentences lower IF they ever get caught, they always get of easy even for similar crimes, and we all collectively go "well that aint right, thats unfair" but we can't and don't do anything about it, because we are sheep we have no claws. this rant went on way longer then i initially wanted, but damnit this is me thinking, for myself. Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. twitterinos sure love shifting everything into political debate, huh Mods, if you are reading this, you better lock this thread before the actual shitstorm starts. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:26 PM
#240
Aapjuh said: MyllerPhiem said: Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. i don't get involved in any politics, group me where ever u want, label me as whatever, but prove me wrong then. You already proved you're a conservative. They usually lack nuance, empathy, and think the left are weenies that are conspiring to try to censor things and turn their country into communist china. If you check any of these delusions you lean right to say the least. Back to the show it's still garbage |
Jan 20, 2021 10:31 PM
#241
It seem Germany was the first country to cancel the anime simulcast wonder if other country would follow through |
Jan 20, 2021 10:32 PM
#242
ttcchen said: Anyone know where to find the uncensored version? *wink* Honestly tho, I don't even hate the manga as much as I hate the anime. The manga is bad, not because of the plot, but because they made it a revenge porn but censored anything so I can't even enjoy it as a porn. If they uncensored it and showed us the sex then it'd probably get a 5/10 from me. But this anime? Not only did they cut out scenes, switched certain scenes around, and the sex is EVEN MORE censored than in the manga?? Like wtf is with that minute long still shot scene with just the fire burning in the background? At least let us hear them moaning and shit!! Dunno if there's an uncensored version where we actually get to see the sex or that scene remains there even in the uncensored version. Regardless, this adaptation is shit and is even worse than the manga. kharonsama said: thepath said: I did not watch this yet because I'm waiting for uncensored version, but why too much 1/5 rating ?? Why are these sensitive SJW people keep watching shows that has female abuse if they don't like it ?? I also don't understand these people. Like you said, just go and watch something else... and leave the guilty pleasure to us ^_^ @thepath let's not get started on the childish name-calling and labeling right off the bat, ok? If they actually uncensored it and showed us the sex then it'd get a 5/5 for me. but since they censored the crap out of it and that stupid minute long still shot scene earned its 1/5 rating for me. There is an uncensored version. Though it doesn't show all that much besides breasts and, well, imaginary penetration and a very faded, non-detailed, quick flash of the "rod" is what he likes to call his penis. In summary, you're probably not going to see actual sex like you would in Hanimes. |
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Jan 20, 2021 10:33 PM
#243
TheDopealicious said: Aapjuh said: MyllerPhiem said: Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. i don't get involved in any politics, group me where ever u want, label me as whatever, but prove me wrong then. You already proved you're a conservative. They usually lack nuance, empathy, and think the left are weenies that are conspiring to try to censor things and turn their country into communist china. If you check any of these delusions you lean right to say the least. Back to the show it's still garbage i don't even know who or what left is or right or middle whatever. i don't even know any political parties in my own country, im just saying how i feel about what i see, is discussing my groceries with my partner also apolitical debate, or can we just share thoughts without labels. regardless none of you attempt to educate me, points out my wrongs. just label, point and hide, then think all is right with the world. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:36 PM
#244
Opticflash said: ag_ said: Thanks for the brain damage. This weeks episode of "Rape Glorification" was horrendous. I'm making it a challenge to keep watching this trash. Note: it's not the abuse/revenge/rape that makes it bad, it's the fact that the rape is the center of his revenge. It's giving the message that rape is fine if someone rapes you first. Rape isn't ever good. No matter who it is. Also, before anyone calls me a SJW for this, I don't even agree with 90% of what they say. It's not hard to say rape is bad. And GTA is giving the message that killing out of revenge is fine, right? Ryuseishun said: Whatever positive value this POSSIBLY had (maybe how the guy is supposedly smart af to formulate his revenge) is always instantaneously killed off and devalued to nothing by the shameless porn display. Even the visual and sound directing is horrendously lazy. Also, this man is apparently OPed now, he's no longer a fucking healer. He says "heal" but it ain't healing anymore. Dat fuc. This is both a power fantasy and a revenge porn piece of work. I feel so bad for the staff who was forced to work on this dumpster. Err... the value was the revenge rape part. Watch the uncensored version. Superismaeel said: It’s not the fact that I’m weak It’s the fact that the anime isn’t even good (like the story) And I understand your point of saying “if you hate it why watch it” It’s because like you said “To complain about it” That’s called Criticism (also I watch bad shows to see how bad it is) If you have a different opinion about the anime that’s totally fine with me I just find this anime total rubbish And I wanna share my opinion about it Would the anime still be bad if it didn't contain any rape? What is bad about it? Guess Game of Thrones deserves to be bashed not due to the poor last season, but for the implied rape scenes instead. lol. Some people shouldn't be watching this or anything remotely made for mature audiences. |
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Jan 20, 2021 10:39 PM
#245
sn0w said: where did you see the uncensored version?ttcchen said: Anyone know where to find the uncensored version? *wink* Honestly tho, I don't even hate the manga as much as I hate the anime. The manga is bad, not because of the plot, but because they made it a revenge porn but censored anything so I can't even enjoy it as a porn. If they uncensored it and showed us the sex then it'd probably get a 5/10 from me. But this anime? Not only did they cut out scenes, switched certain scenes around, and the sex is EVEN MORE censored than in the manga?? Like wtf is with that minute long still shot scene with just the fire burning in the background? At least let us hear them moaning and shit!! Dunno if there's an uncensored version where we actually get to see the sex or that scene remains there even in the uncensored version. Regardless, this adaptation is shit and is even worse than the manga. kharonsama said: thepath said: I did not watch this yet because I'm waiting for uncensored version, but why too much 1/5 rating ?? Why are these sensitive SJW people keep watching shows that has female abuse if they don't like it ?? I also don't understand these people. Like you said, just go and watch something else... and leave the guilty pleasure to us ^_^ @thepath let's not get started on the childish name-calling and labeling right off the bat, ok? If they actually uncensored it and showed us the sex then it'd get a 5/5 for me. but since they censored the crap out of it and that stupid minute long still shot scene earned its 1/5 rating for me. There is an uncensored version. Though it doesn't show all that much besides breasts and, well, imaginary penetration and a very faded, non-detailed, quick flash of the "rod" is what he likes to call his penis. In summary, you're probably not going to see actual sex like you would in Hanimes. |
Jan 20, 2021 10:39 PM
#246
FFCreations said: Opticflash said: FFCreations said: Opticflash said: FFCreations said: firstawahono said: Light kills many people : wow death note is a masterpiece Eren kills many people : wow aot is a masterpiece Keyaru fcks a princess : this anime is a garbage Hmmmm, double standard However, censored version is very bad Well no, no double standard at all actually. What many people fail to understand is the actual writing that goes behind their action. Redo does it the most poorly (BY FAR) out of those you mentioned. Redo basically just skims over his life like "Yeah these people did cartoonishly evil things to you, you are fully justified to do whatever you want now" and it just turns into extremely edgy revenge porn power fantasy. Death Note for instance actually gives proper time to establish Light as a character. And he doesn't turn into a raging murdering psychopath the second he picks up the book either. We learn about his motives. His principles and morals. They explore how the murders actually affects him as a person. And as for Attack on Titan. Well I actually think Eren is a poorly written character (and AoT as a whole) so I do believe his mass murdering is dumb as shit too. But at the very least, put next to Redo, it's a masterpiece. Because once again, we follow Eren as a character. We find out his motives, morals and principles. Redo of Healer gives the absolute bare minimum of exposition so that they can as cheaply as possible make the MC "sympathetic". And then they jump as quickly as possible into the thing people want to wank off to. The revenge porn. But it just doesn't work. And then they just add onto the bad things that happened to him with flashback (the cheapest writer's tool in the book). It's so poorly made that you end up not feeling for the MC one bit. He's just a cardboard cutout that people can self insert themselves into to live out their power fantasy. And that's exactly why Redo comes off as distasteful, because it's made purely for shock. Not to advance or tell a story where these elements are a necessity. It's murder for murder's sake. It's torture for torture's sake. It's rape for rape's sake. We learn almost NOTHING about Light's character. All we understand is he as a very unorthodox sense of justice, that's it. No explanation about he became that way whatsoever, no backstory. Why does he feel the need to kill criminals? Shouldn't being locked up for life in prison suffice? Why doesn't he think like most people in society? His mindset is superficial as his reasons are not expounded on. What are you even talking about? Did you actually watch Death Note? We learn a ton about Light's character. Especially during his interactions with L and Ryuk. They make it very clear why he kills criminals. And most importantly, he develops as a character. He doesn't just start being a murdering psychopath. He's quite hesitant and careful with murdering through the book early on. He's reluctant our outright refuses to kill anyone he doesn't deem that they deserve it. And by the end of the series he has become a complete narcissist who sees himself as a God with no problem to kill the people that get in his way. They very clearly establish his sense of justice, motives and what his morals are (of course these develops as the story does, him becoming more corrupted). They give his character a good contrast by having work besides his father (and the rest of the task force, L included). Where they each have a very strong sense of justice. But how they act upon their view of justice is vastly different. One important moment to remember since you doubt his character is when he relinquish the notebook and in turn, his memories as well. You can see his past self shine through very strongly. When it wasn't corrupted by the book. It feels like you haven't even watched Death Note? He's the exact same person in episode 1 as he was in episode 37. There was nothing in the anime that shows any change in his thinking; no conflicts, no "but should I really be doing this...?". He does not question his morality. The whole anime was about him killing and manipulating people. The only thing that changed was his facial expression and eye color to reflect a deranged individual by the end. Furthermore, as I mentioned previously why he thinks the way he does initially is not explained. Was it childhood trauma? Was it the fact that he had first hand experience with some of the most heinous criminals? Redo of Healer on the other hand rushes the MC's torment and revenge. The characters are similar in depth. Except that he isn't the same? His character in episode 1 was not willing to kill civilians but by episode 37 he is. And his thinking does actually change. He is shown to care about his family early on in the show. Going as far as to protect them, despite knowing that would be working against his goal. But later on it is very clear that he is even willing to sacrifice them if it means working towards his ultimate goal. Once again, just take a look at when he relinquish the book and loses his memory. You'll realize the vast difference in character. It is shown that the intoxicating power of the book is what deeply corrupts him and warps his view on humanity. As for why he thinks the way he thinks from the start. That's not because of some childhood trauma or anything. It is simply that due to his intellect and sense of superiority he looks down on criminals even before he has gotten the book. It is just that the corrupting power of the book amplified that personality, since he got a tool that gave him the capability to take action to make the world "better". They establish that quite clearly from the very first moment we see him. I suggest you use spoilers since some people may have not seen Death Note in this thread. He never showed that he had an issue with killing civilians though. In episode 1 or 2 or 3, although he did not kill any civilians and he never stated he had issues doing so. In episodes 4 and 5 it was clear he had no qualms about killing FBI agents to spite L. None of this changed whatsoever by episode 37. If he hesitated during episode 5 and then by episode 37 it was shown he did not care at all, the "character" development would have been more pronounced. The transition is not shown because there was no transition in his thinking. He was not shown to care about his family, nor did he protect them. It was only ever implied after the events of episode 27 that he would try to help them unless he didn't have a choice. The fact that the Death Note corrupted him is unimportant, as that only revealed his personality before episode 1, i.e. prior to picking up the Death Note. The gradual transition is not shown. This is akin to saying Keyaru was a fine young man before he was tortured and raped, but that Redo of Healer did not show his slow transition to his thirst for revenge. There is nothing "intellectual" about wanting to murder heinous criminals. There is no evidence that high IQ individuals for example in society support the death sentence more than low IQ individuals. Moreover, you more or less made the assumption that his conviction that criminals should be slaughtered was a part of his personality from the very start, however this does not indicate a more well written character than Keyaru as why he has this personality was not elaborated on. After all, you criticized Keyaru because his life was "skimmed over". |
Jan 20, 2021 10:41 PM
#247
Aapjuh said: TheDopealicious said: Aapjuh said: MyllerPhiem said: Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. i don't get involved in any politics, group me where ever u want, label me as whatever, but prove me wrong then. You already proved you're a conservative. They usually lack nuance, empathy, and think the left are weenies that are conspiring to try to censor things and turn their country into communist china. If you check any of these delusions you lean right to say the least. Back to the show it's still garbage i don't even know who or what left is or right or middle whatever. i don't even know any political parties in my own country, im just saying how i feel about what i see, is discussing my groceries with my partner also apolitical debate, or can we just share thoughts without labels. regardless none of you attempt to educate me, points out my wrongs. just label, point and hide, then think all is right with the world. Do you disagree with any of these takes? We can begin from there Why Revenge isn't Justice |
Jan 20, 2021 10:43 PM
#248
Meh its still dog water not even good enough to be an okay hentai nor better than shield hero and that was mediocre as hell |
Jan 20, 2021 10:46 PM
#249
GreenPlatinum said: Aapjuh said: TheDopealicious said: Aapjuh said: MyllerPhiem said: Congrats on making the dumbest posting on this entire forum. Everyone, THIS is what a rightwinger is like. i don't get involved in any politics, group me where ever u want, label me as whatever, but prove me wrong then. You already proved you're a conservative. They usually lack nuance, empathy, and think the left are weenies that are conspiring to try to censor things and turn their country into communist china. If you check any of these delusions you lean right to say the least. Back to the show it's still garbage i don't even know who or what left is or right or middle whatever. i don't even know any political parties in my own country, im just saying how i feel about what i see, is discussing my groceries with my partner also apolitical debate, or can we just share thoughts without labels. regardless none of you attempt to educate me, points out my wrongs. just label, point and hide, then think all is right with the world. Do you disagree with any of these takes? We can begin from there Why Revenge isn't Justice never said revenge is justice, i said it isn't bad, in the way that justice departments shouldn't judge a person doing eye for an eye. as in judge: 'they got their revenge case closed' no persecution for either people. extra rant bonus points: the scope of a murder is so narrow sighted, always about loved in pain etc. murder is so much more then that, think about it, since the dawn of humanity till now that persons entire line is 'murdered' gone, then theres the entire line from here to end of humanity (provided they all procreate) is also gone. because some dumb-ass thought it was good idea to kill a person. thats also a reason why i want much harsher punishments. |
AapjuhJan 20, 2021 10:51 PM
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