[POLL] Does MAPPA care about the final season?

Dec 16, 2020 9:44 AM

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Zilo45 said:

deg said:
as i said before months ago lets hope MAPPA is on the production committee so that they will care more about this and ye fast forward today and they are high ranking on it too the problem is always the tight production schedule anyway

they're on the production committee it was confirmed when episode 2 aired

thats what i said? i even made a thread about it https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1880127

Dec 16, 2020 11:22 AM

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For everyone complaining about the filter that MAPPA used for the first 2 episodes, it looks a LOT less prominent in the episode 3 preview, so y'all can expect less blurryness from now on (I hope)

Dec 16, 2020 12:12 PM

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Well yeah it would've looked like crap if they didn't care

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Dec 16, 2020 12:51 PM

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What kinda question is that? They have a team of workers and spend years creating this season and you question whether they care about the work?

Dec 16, 2020 12:57 PM

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I know you asked not to compare with WIT. But tbh WIT always took a safe bet with AoT. But Mappa is soo different. And it's not only about AoT. Mappa loves to do experiments and show creativity. From Dorohedoro to JJK, Mappa has been doing something that no other studio has dared to. Even though cgi is still unwelcome to mainstream anime, but Mappa is trying to make an example. Who even thought we would see rotoscoping technique in AoT?? Not gonna lie. Udo's speech in episode 2 really threw me off. But that's why I'm more curious how Mappa will animate the rest of the anime. What more unusual techniques are we going to see from Mappa. I love that Mappa is trying to do something unconventional and I'm so stoked for this.

Dec 16, 2020 1:15 PM

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Arin-san said:

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If they had done AOT from S1 this way, and WIT had taken over now, we would've had the same problems most likely. MAPPA is a very good studio and all their Anime are pretty high quality, it's just that people like searching for flaws instead of just enjoying it.

If they would've been doing AoT from S1 this way then AoT wouldn't have been the AoT we all loved, and if WIT did take over from S4 then some people who stayed faithful to MAPPA's style would've been mad while people who don't care would've been ok with it and at the same time praise it.
So you see, the situation wouldn't be much different from now. The reason why a lot of people are mad is because they had a lot of expectations from season 4 and they think that the anime they loved for so many years deserves a better ending than this. And there is nothing wrong with that, I myself love AoT and think that this should've been handled better, it wouldn't be like this if this wasn't the final part, but it is, that's why people are mad.

The thing with MAPPA is that while it does look and feel different it's still a very high quality adaptation so far, and the change in studio was probably the best thing that could have happened to the series. I loved the WIT adaptation and always will, but the main thing here is that I don't love AOT because WIT did it, but because I simply love the story of it. WIT did it justice, and so is MAPPA, even if it's different.

Dec 16, 2020 1:17 PM

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keragamming said:

Reiner_undieable said:
Honestly these 2 ep don't even compare to jjk, goh, dororo, dorohedoro or other mappa shows I want to believe they are focusing on it but I can't see it, it is not bad but overall just the quallity of any normal seasonal anime nothing special.

Funny, a lot live reaction persons are saying it looks "movie like" and even better than previous seasons.

I remember Cao said they are working on to make it looks movie quality, so I don't know a lot of people are actually impress with it.

It's all subjective anyway. What I'm aiming for with my threads and posts is to try and unite the fanbase a little towards discussing the story, instead of splitting up over how much they like the adaptation or not.

Dec 16, 2020 1:19 PM

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Reiner_undieable said:

berutoruto said:

Hmm...you got a point here yeah, we have plenty of animation experts here on MAL forum & they all are big fans of AOT like @Jehad321 @Reiner_undieable , don't waste your talent, I'm sure you guys will perform this job well!!! I wonder what positions in the production would you guys wanna be? director of photography? key animation? episode director?? i cant wait to see ALL 2D titans sakuga scenes, please don't use the CGI cheap trick like Mappa... i will wait no matter how looooooooong the production time will take , so please don't give up this project halfway ya?

well accually I am very talented and I know how to draw, really I am talking seriously.

You're welcome to share some of your artwork! I mean that in a positive way, and not like taunting. If you have any AOT related artwork, feel free to post it here!

Dec 16, 2020 1:22 PM

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dompsterfire said:

They did some gambles with that and It didn't work. end of the story.

I don't think you can really say it didn't work. A lot of people seem to really like it.

Looking forward to the Hayashi episode!

Dec 16, 2020 1:25 PM

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Harsha1314 said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Reiner_undieable said:

lol these are te unblurred version shots uhhh look how good it looks if only that awful director of photography stopped, I don't blame here I blame the producers for putting unexperienced people on a huge project.

Yeah you're totally right!! Da hell they dared to use some inexperienced staff to tarnish this masterpiece!!!!
AOT doesn't worth this downgrade treatment at all by MAPPA!!!
We AOT fans can totally start a crowdfunding and direct this series ourselves since we all know what's the BEST for this series right??
Are you interested to be the director of photography yourself? since you seems to have a really good taste & got lots of experienced in this field.... with your good insights we can remove all that shitty blurs!!!!
Or maybe we should use the crowd-funded money to recruit WIT studio back???
With enough money, surely we can convince them to retake this project for us, but first of all we need to make sure we can get a seat in production committee too...
Best if we have the highest rank than that bloodsucker devil Kodansha, we gonna make this series 40 episodes!!! Get the best pacing that follow manga faithfully!!!!!
If we got the highest rank... we can manipulate everything as we like and control the production quality of the series to the BEST standard and I believe the adapted product will make AOT the anime of the century!!
FUCK MAPPA & THEIR CGI & THEIR STUPID BLURS !! FUCK THEM ALLLLL CAUSE WE AOT FANS GONNA DIRECT THIS MASTERPIECE BETTER THAN THEM!!!!!
So, let's start this project now, how much money are you pitching in????

If we follow your logic then that must mean that we cannot judge a movie unless we make a movie ourselves, we cannot judge a book unless we write a book ourselves, we cannot judge a food unless we learn to cook food ourselves. So in order to judge/criticise something we need to be able to do that thing ourselves? Is that what you're saying? Wow! You're way off thinking is so advanced! Let's all give a round of applause to this guy!

Thanks i'm honoured !! in case you didn't read properly & don't understand my sarcasm, i am just fooling around with some pricks who are degrading the staffs

And in case you didn't read my reply properly and don't understand that I was mocking you for mocking other people who are degrading the staff for the right reasons! The director of photography, the one responsible for the terrible blur effect, deserves every single ounce of that degradation.

i think that the blur really isnt as bad as u make it up to be in fact it guves me this movie like feel in which case this season would be better for binge watching. But yea the blur can be a little eh for some people but it isnt nearly as bad as u make it sound. It really is just a few who feel that way but the unblurred looks un0olished as hell so i think the blur is to fit the aesthetic of this adaptation.

I think some of these things might also depend on peoples monitors. I read that the blur effect is actually something different, not blur...idk, if someone knows more about this please let me know. I forgot what it's called.

Dec 16, 2020 1:26 PM

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Harsha1314 said:
I guess its jsut mal where people are very salty about the blur and rotoscoping then. Also yea frames were not missing in the rotoscoping part the only jarring camera movement and rotoscoping was zeke and colt walking up stairs, and i guess its just new to people on mal because many seemed to enjoy Mappa's take a lot more. (Also just to point out not hate gabi jumping missed 3 frames)

To me the episode looked absolutely amazing until I came to the forums. I'm sure a lot of people see it the same way I did.

Dec 16, 2020 1:30 PM

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Harsha1314 said:

ShoriTora said:

I've heard aot didnt actually earn WIT a lot of money tbh, but that could just be some fake news that gets circulated round

no no it was true. WIT studio wasn't a part of the production committee which means they are just payed for work but not for profits earned by kodansha and ig productions

They were paid with a lot of positive reputation at least.

Dec 16, 2020 3:35 PM

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Chocobutter said:
Honestly, I'm really happy how it's playing out so far. It's following the manga so that's pretty cool.

What a nice comment!

Honestly, the episodes so far even surpassed my expectations.

Dec 16, 2020 3:39 PM

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TacMAL said:
What kinda question is that? They have a team of workers and spend years creating this season and you question whether they care about the work?

I'm not questioning it, but a lot of people seem very dissatisfied with some things in the first two episodes so far. It it wasn't clear enough that I highly support and appreciate MAPPA so far, then please let me know so that I can rephrase the question or the first comment. The point of this thread it to show the large discrepancy between people who think MAPPA are giving it their best and people who think they are lazy and don't really bother enough with it, so that everyone can have a more positive forum experience.

Dec 16, 2020 3:42 PM

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Tyfyazzela said:
I know you asked not to compare with WIT. But tbh WIT always took a safe bet with AoT. But Mappa is soo different. And it's not only about AoT. Mappa loves to do experiments and show creativity. From Dorohedoro to JJK, Mappa has been doing something that no other studio has dared to. Even though cgi is still unwelcome to mainstream anime, but Mappa is trying to make an example. Who even thought we would see rotoscoping technique in AoT?? Not gonna lie. Udo's speech in episode 2 really threw me off. But that's why I'm more curious how Mappa will animate the rest of the anime. What more unusual techniques are we going to see from Mappa. I love that Mappa is trying to do something unconventional and I'm so stoked for this.

It's not only that they are trying, they do it really well. If I were watching this Season the way I watched S3P2 and avoid forums, I wouldn't have noticed anything wrong. I still don't to be fair, but it's like the forums make me try to see things in a more negative light. The CGI was great and the rotoscopy added a lot of dynamic to an otherwise rather slow episode.

Dec 16, 2020 3:42 PM

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-ash_27- said:
Well yeah it would've looked like crap if they didn't care

Some people still think it does. Majority seems to be loving it though.

Dec 16, 2020 3:42 PM

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Honestly they are putting too much effort into it. This toxic fandom does not deserve this high quality of a product.

Dec 16, 2020 3:44 PM

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TheGoldenCatch said:
Honestly they are putting too much effort into it. This toxic fandom does not deserve this high quality of a product.

Well wow, that's an interesting take on the situation lol. There are a bunch of good fans who really are enjoying it though and they make up the majority of the fanbase, and besides, Isayama and his whole team are the ones who really deserve such a high quality adaptation.

Dec 16, 2020 3:57 PM

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Kaito10 said:

TheGoldenCatch said:
Honestly they are putting too much effort into it. This toxic fandom does not deserve this high quality of a product.

Well wow, that's an interesting take on the situation lol. There are a bunch of good fans who really are enjoying it though and they make up the majority of the fanbase, and besides, Isayama and his whole team are the ones who really deserve such a high quality adaptation.

Yeah it's true most of the fans are enjoying it. Maybe I went too far but it's really frustrating to see people saying that MAPPA ruined the anime when in reality they went wayyyy above and beyond. Watching the first 2 episodes legit felt like watching a war movie. The absolutely nailed the tone of the marley arc. It's extremely immersive imo.

I have been watching anime for a very long time now and Attack on Titan has the most toxic fanbase I have ever seen. Imagine complaining about a great adaptation (so far) because it didn't adapt every single panel 1:1

Dec 16, 2020 4:20 PM

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Kaito10 said:

TacMAL said:
What kinda question is that? They have a team of workers and spend years creating this season and you question whether they care about the work?

I'm not questioning it, but a lot of people seem very dissatisfied with some things in the first two episodes so far. It it wasn't clear enough that I highly support and appreciate MAPPA so far, then please let me know so that I can rephrase the question or the first comment. The point of this thread it to show the large discrepancy between people who think MAPPA are giving it their best and people who think they are lazy and don't really bother enough with it, so that everyone can have a more positive forum experience.

Ok it sounded like a rhetorical where you ask the question because it’s your own belief and only want one answer. Sound 👍

Dec 16, 2020 5:02 PM

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Kaito10 said:

Harsha1314 said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Reiner_undieable said:

lol these are te unblurred version shots uhhh look how good it looks if only that awful director of photography stopped, I don't blame here I blame the producers for putting unexperienced people on a huge project.

Yeah you're totally right!! Da hell they dared to use some inexperienced staff to tarnish this masterpiece!!!!
AOT doesn't worth this downgrade treatment at all by MAPPA!!!
We AOT fans can totally start a crowdfunding and direct this series ourselves since we all know what's the BEST for this series right??
Are you interested to be the director of photography yourself? since you seems to have a really good taste & got lots of experienced in this field.... with your good insights we can remove all that shitty blurs!!!!
Or maybe we should use the crowd-funded money to recruit WIT studio back???
With enough money, surely we can convince them to retake this project for us, but first of all we need to make sure we can get a seat in production committee too...
Best if we have the highest rank than that bloodsucker devil Kodansha, we gonna make this series 40 episodes!!! Get the best pacing that follow manga faithfully!!!!!
If we got the highest rank... we can manipulate everything as we like and control the production quality of the series to the BEST standard and I believe the adapted product will make AOT the anime of the century!!
FUCK MAPPA & THEIR CGI & THEIR STUPID BLURS !! FUCK THEM ALLLLL CAUSE WE AOT FANS GONNA DIRECT THIS MASTERPIECE BETTER THAN THEM!!!!!
So, let's start this project now, how much money are you pitching in????

If we follow your logic then that must mean that we cannot judge a movie unless we make a movie ourselves, we cannot judge a book unless we write a book ourselves, we cannot judge a food unless we learn to cook food ourselves. So in order to judge/criticise something we need to be able to do that thing ourselves? Is that what you're saying? Wow! You're way off thinking is so advanced! Let's all give a round of applause to this guy!

Thanks i'm honoured !! in case you didn't read properly & don't understand my sarcasm, i am just fooling around with some pricks who are degrading the staffs

And in case you didn't read my reply properly and don't understand that I was mocking you for mocking other people who are degrading the staff for the right reasons! The director of photography, the one responsible for the terrible blur effect, deserves every single ounce of that degradation.

i think that the blur really isnt as bad as u make it up to be in fact it guves me this movie like feel in which case this season would be better for binge watching. But yea the blur can be a little eh for some people but it isnt nearly as bad as u make it sound. It really is just a few who feel that way but the unblurred looks un0olished as hell so i think the blur is to fit the aesthetic of this adaptation.

I think some of these things might also depend on peoples monitors. I read that the blur effect is actually something different, not blur...idk, if someone knows more about this please let me know. I forgot what it's called.

It's called the soft light filter, you can read it here:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1881146&show=200#msg61390847

Dec 16, 2020 6:09 PM

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Kaito10 said:

Harsha1314 said:

no no it was true. WIT studio wasn't a part of the production committee which means they are just payed for work but not for profits earned by kodansha and ig productions

They were paid with a lot of positive reputation at least.

absolutely. they were. but u know it needs time now

Dec 16, 2020 6:12 PM

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Kaito10 said:

Harsha1314 said:
I guess its jsut mal where people are very salty about the blur and rotoscoping then. Also yea frames were not missing in the rotoscoping part the only jarring camera movement and rotoscoping was zeke and colt walking up stairs, and i guess its just new to people on mal because many seemed to enjoy Mappa's take a lot more. (Also just to point out not hate gabi jumping missed 3 frames)

To me the episode looked absolutely amazing until I came to the forums. I'm sure a lot of people see it the same way I did.

yeah now that i interacted with quite some people mnay dont complain about it at all

Dec 16, 2020 6:16 PM

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Kaito10 said:

Harsha1314 said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Reiner_undieable said:

lol these are te unblurred version shots uhhh look how good it looks if only that awful director of photography stopped, I don't blame here I blame the producers for putting unexperienced people on a huge project.

Yeah you're totally right!! Da hell they dared to use some inexperienced staff to tarnish this masterpiece!!!!
AOT doesn't worth this downgrade treatment at all by MAPPA!!!
We AOT fans can totally start a crowdfunding and direct this series ourselves since we all know what's the BEST for this series right??
Are you interested to be the director of photography yourself? since you seems to have a really good taste & got lots of experienced in this field.... with your good insights we can remove all that shitty blurs!!!!
Or maybe we should use the crowd-funded money to recruit WIT studio back???
With enough money, surely we can convince them to retake this project for us, but first of all we need to make sure we can get a seat in production committee too...
Best if we have the highest rank than that bloodsucker devil Kodansha, we gonna make this series 40 episodes!!! Get the best pacing that follow manga faithfully!!!!!
If we got the highest rank... we can manipulate everything as we like and control the production quality of the series to the BEST standard and I believe the adapted product will make AOT the anime of the century!!
FUCK MAPPA & THEIR CGI & THEIR STUPID BLURS !! FUCK THEM ALLLLL CAUSE WE AOT FANS GONNA DIRECT THIS MASTERPIECE BETTER THAN THEM!!!!!
So, let's start this project now, how much money are you pitching in????

If we follow your logic then that must mean that we cannot judge a movie unless we make a movie ourselves, we cannot judge a book unless we write a book ourselves, we cannot judge a food unless we learn to cook food ourselves. So in order to judge/criticise something we need to be able to do that thing ourselves? Is that what you're saying? Wow! You're way off thinking is so advanced! Let's all give a round of applause to this guy!

Thanks i'm honoured !! in case you didn't read properly & don't understand my sarcasm, i am just fooling around with some pricks who are degrading the staffs

And in case you didn't read my reply properly and don't understand that I was mocking you for mocking other people who are degrading the staff for the right reasons! The director of photography, the one responsible for the terrible blur effect, deserves every single ounce of that degradation.

i think that the blur really isnt as bad as u make it up to be in fact it guves me this movie like feel in which case this season would be better for binge watching. But yea the blur can be a little eh for some people but it isnt nearly as bad as u make it sound. It really is just a few who feel that way but the unblurred looks un0olished as hell so i think the blur is to fit the aesthetic of this adaptation.

I think some of these things might also depend on peoples monitors. I read that the blur effect is actually something different, not blur...idk, if someone knows more about this please let me know. I forgot what it's called.

sof light filter and actually something to do with camera focus as an overall to give season a different mappa original aesthetic look which worked for me and many others as well i guess. atleast thats the conclusion i drew from how different it looked

Dec 16, 2020 7:18 PM

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berutoruto said:

Kaito10 said:

Harsha1314 said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Arin-san said:

berutoruto said:

Reiner_undieable said:

lol these are te unblurred version shots uhhh look how good it looks if only that awful director of photography stopped, I don't blame here I blame the producers for putting unexperienced people on a huge project.

Yeah you're totally right!! Da hell they dared to use some inexperienced staff to tarnish this masterpiece!!!!
AOT doesn't worth this downgrade treatment at all by MAPPA!!!
We AOT fans can totally start a crowdfunding and direct this series ourselves since we all know what's the BEST for this series right??
Are you interested to be the director of photography yourself? since you seems to have a really good taste & got lots of experienced in this field.... with your good insights we can remove all that shitty blurs!!!!
Or maybe we should use the crowd-funded money to recruit WIT studio back???
With enough money, surely we can convince them to retake this project for us, but first of all we need to make sure we can get a seat in production committee too...
Best if we have the highest rank than that bloodsucker devil Kodansha, we gonna make this series 40 episodes!!! Get the best pacing that follow manga faithfully!!!!!
If we got the highest rank... we can manipulate everything as we like and control the production quality of the series to the BEST standard and I believe the adapted product will make AOT the anime of the century!!
FUCK MAPPA & THEIR CGI & THEIR STUPID BLURS !! FUCK THEM ALLLLL CAUSE WE AOT FANS GONNA DIRECT THIS MASTERPIECE BETTER THAN THEM!!!!!
So, let's start this project now, how much money are you pitching in????

If we follow your logic then that must mean that we cannot judge a movie unless we make a movie ourselves, we cannot judge a book unless we write a book ourselves, we cannot judge a food unless we learn to cook food ourselves. So in order to judge/criticise something we need to be able to do that thing ourselves? Is that what you're saying? Wow! You're way off thinking is so advanced! Let's all give a round of applause to this guy!

Thanks i'm honoured !! in case you didn't read properly & don't understand my sarcasm, i am just fooling around with some pricks who are degrading the staffs

And in case you didn't read my reply properly and don't understand that I was mocking you for mocking other people who are degrading the staff for the right reasons! The director of photography, the one responsible for the terrible blur effect, deserves every single ounce of that degradation.

i think that the blur really isnt as bad as u make it up to be in fact it guves me this movie like feel in which case this season would be better for binge watching. But yea the blur can be a little eh for some people but it isnt nearly as bad as u make it sound. It really is just a few who feel that way but the unblurred looks un0olished as hell so i think the blur is to fit the aesthetic of this adaptation.

I think some of these things might also depend on peoples monitors. I read that the blur effect is actually something different, not blur...idk, if someone knows more about this please let me know. I forgot what it's called.

It's called the soft light filter, you can read it here:

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1881146&show=200#msg61390847

THIS! Exactly! Thank you. Thanks for linking the thread too.

Dec 16, 2020 7:21 PM

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TacMAL said:

Kaito10 said:

I'm not questioning it, but a lot of people seem very dissatisfied with some things in the first two episodes so far. It it wasn't clear enough that I highly support and appreciate MAPPA so far, then please let me know so that I can rephrase the question or the first comment. The point of this thread it to show the large discrepancy between people who think MAPPA are giving it their best and people who think they are lazy and don't really bother enough with it, so that everyone can have a more positive forum experience.

Ok it sounded like a rhetorical where you ask the question because it’s your own belief and only want one answer. Sound 👍

No, rhetorical was never my intention. Glad to have clarified things now! I have another thread where I mention that I don't think there is one correct answer to this, and if there are two parties with different opinions, both are right. It's simply to showcase how the vast majority see it in a positive light.

Btw, how did you make that thumbs up?

Dec 16, 2020 7:51 PM

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It can also be argued that the anime is elevating the manga in so many areas.

I’m a manga reader but even without the flashbacks I think it was easy to understand how Reiner felt. Obviously he was conflicted in his feelings if the first thing he brings up is Sasha eating a potato. His words and mannerisms while speaking were enough and held so much weight. It also added a sense of realism to his mental state in my opinion just seeing him rant on for a long time to his family, ignoring them by not looking at them in the eyes, and also ignoring the situation. It made the snap back to reality he had after seeing his mother’s face even more impactful. I liked the scene even if it’s different slightly.

I also think MAPPA is just trying to make the build up to the 104th’s first appearance even bigger than it was in the manga by cutting out seeing the characters pre-timeskip too often.

Anime cutting out manga content is nothing new...especially for AOT. The message and weight in the adapted material has not been lost at all so far in my opinion.

Dec 16, 2020 8:04 PM

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Kaito10 said:

dompsterfire said:

They did some gambles with that and It didn't work. end of the story.

I don't think you can really say it didn't work. A lot of people seem to really like it.

Looking forward to the Hayashi episode!

A lot don't too though. So its kinda divided. I kinda like it. anyways, hype for Hayashi lol.

Dec 17, 2020 2:28 AM

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Guess this poll shows that only a minority complains about the animation. I also agree that they are doing a good job so far.

Dec 17, 2020 2:33 AM

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Guess this poll shows that only a minority complains about the animation. I also agree that they are doing a good job so far.

It's just a loud minority of a certain age group.

Dec 17, 2020 3:30 AM

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sigh... we don't deserve MAPPA, since AOT s4 is trash now and MAPPA doesn't care abt them then we should have just had studio deen take AOT ( even Jc staff is too good for us)

Dec 17, 2020 3:45 AM

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if they didnt care they would copy paste the manga as it is and would not add anime only scenes

Dec 17, 2020 4:47 AM

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Arin-san said:
@Bhaskar_Singh "I won't let a stupid blur filter affect my experience, but I will use unblurred images as an example to show the quality of the animation cause why not?" said, Bhaskar Singh.

Step 1: Give them a very good looking and tasting donots tray
step 2: Piss on the tray
step 3: "I won't let a stupid piss affect my experience"
step 4: Profit

heh.

Dec 17, 2020 4:56 AM

#84

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Bob-o-Dominador said:

Arin-san said:
@Bhaskar_Singh "I won't let a stupid blur filter affect my experience, but I will use unblurred images as an example to show the quality of the animation cause why not?" said, Bhaskar Singh.

Step 1: Give them a very good looking and tasting donots tray
step 2: Piss on the tray
step 3: "I won't let a stupid piss affect my experience"
step 4: Profit

My god the blur isn't half bad as people make it up to be tbh. but yeah his statement is a little stupid.

Also the blur effect is more like a camera focus thing in ep 2 and the other things people mistook for blur was soft light filter which made the atmosphere feel warm. Idk it worked for me obviously WIT made things look neat so this isn't a donut nor a spoilt donut it is another dish like a Red velvet cake

Dec 17, 2020 5:04 AM

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lilyelise

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Of course they care about the new season. If I recall correctly, MAPPA took over the project BECAUSE it was something only they could handle.

They're animating a show that will, without a doubt, become a classic - like possibly on par with shows like Cowboy Bebop and NGE. And, so far it has been great.

Yes, they used CGI for the titans and the animation is different, but we are still getting the final season that we've been waiting for and so far it has been great. We should appreciate MAPPA :)

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Dec 17, 2020 6:03 AM

#86

SmolChibi

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Stuff like this is what I hate about the community. The new season is amazing and these fans are ungrateful.

Dec 17, 2020 6:16 AM

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SmolChibi said:
Stuff like this is what I hate about the community. The new season is amazing and these fans are ungrateful.

no no. he is supporting the anime. he just wanted to know what the fucking elitists think and the poll results made him quite satisfied as well

Dec 17, 2020 6:18 AM

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I think people are being too hard on the final season of AOT. I agree that so far the CGI and animation isn’t flawless but I think people are making to big of a deal out if it. The CGI is quite good most of the time and the animation looks good 90% of the time. I think since we are only on ep 2 we should wait until at minimum episode 4 before making any judgements.

Don’t forget if Mappa didn’t pick this up we might even have gotten this season. I think Mappa does care about this season but transfering a show that has been with WIT for six years and then changing studios is a hrd thing to do.

Also i don’t understand all the complaints I personally think the opening is great, the art looks great, I get that the CGI is ok but the characters too are interesting. The thing people are complaining aboit with Reiner not smiling is such a minir nitpick. I agree it would’ve been better if it was included. But I don’t understand how people can think he hated it there. Even in the trailer you can see him struggling between the two sides.

But to make it short I do think Mappa cares and I think people who like AOT should give them a fair shot.

Dec 17, 2020 6:23 AM

#89

HonKingFly409

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after multiple failures they do want make money from aot, so yes they do care, but are they doing a good job? no they don't

#justise for koalas

Dec 17, 2020 6:26 AM

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Tyfyazzela said:
I know you asked not to compare with WIT. But tbh WIT always took a safe bet with AoT. But Mappa is soo different. And it's not only about AoT. Mappa loves to do experiments and show creativity. From Dorohedoro to JJK, Mappa has been doing something that no other studio has dared to. Even though cgi is still unwelcome to mainstream anime, but Mappa is trying to make an example. Who even thought we would see rotoscoping technique in AoT?? Not gonna lie. Udo's speech in episode 2 really threw me off. But that's why I'm more curious how Mappa will animate the rest of the anime. What more unusual techniques are we going to see from Mappa. I love that Mappa is trying to do something unconventional and I'm so stoked for this.

they used cgi because it's easier than drawing, not because they are creative and all that bs.
safe bet or no, only results matter, and we all can see a downgrade from the previous seasons

#justise for koalas

Dec 17, 2020 9:11 AM

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I don't have a problem with their animation while there are 2 flaws .
The beast titan and this 2nd one is not about the animation but they move too much while talking.
I think the beast titan will be animated well when it matters the most.

Dec 17, 2020 11:01 AM

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They do care it's just the shitty shedule that they where given by the higher-ups

Dec 17, 2020 1:39 PM

#93

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fuck u mappa haters;

just because your favourite studio didn't adapt your favourite anime doesn't mean the new studio is stupid. Stop making troll threads like this and learn to appreciate other's hard work.

Dec 17, 2020 2:08 PM

#94

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I love WIT but MAPPA is incredible so far with their version of AoT.

Also this poll just proves that the haters are a loud minority lol

Dec 17, 2020 3:32 PM

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Mewra

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I like both to be honest, both have their ups and downs.
MAPPA is doing a decent job so far, the first episode was great in my opinion, i loved the action scenes.

物事は良くなりますか？

Dec 17, 2020 3:49 PM

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Reiner_undieable said:
Honestly these 2 ep don't even compare to jjk, goh, dororo, dorohedoro or other mappa shows I want to believe they are focusing on it but I can't see it, it is not bad but overall just the quallity of any normal seasonal anime nothing special.

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GOHS and JjK has waaaay better anination overall, and great animation is one of AoT trademarks.

Dec 17, 2020 4:08 PM

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Eh mappa is doing a decent job for AOT but their best works clearly go to GOH (shitty adaptation), and JJK (strongest rn).

Dec 17, 2020 4:26 PM

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Kaito10

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EnvyHenry said:
fuck u mappa haters;

just because your favourite studio didn't adapt your favourite anime doesn't mean the new studio is stupid. Stop making troll threads like this and learn to appreciate other's hard work.

This thread is meant to bring some positivity to the community by showing people, especially newcomers, that the vast majority is in favor of MAPPA, so that they don't get discouraged or influenced by some of the negative comments you can find on here once in a while. In case it wasn't clear enough, I'm open to suggestions on how to change the title to make it more clear.

Dec 17, 2020 4:28 PM

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SaberHotMikasa said:
I love WIT but MAPPA is incredible so far with their version of AoT.

Also this poll just proves that the haters are a loud minority lol

That is why I created it! To show that the vast majority thinks favorable of MAPPA so far, and promote a more positive atmosphere when people take the poll and see the huge difference.

Dec 17, 2020 4:32 PM

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Kaito10

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ShadowUnown said:

Reiner_undieable said:
Honestly these 2 ep don't even compare to jjk, goh, dororo, dorohedoro or other mappa shows I want to believe they are focusing on it but I can't see it, it is not bad but overall just the quallity of any normal seasonal anime nothing special.

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GOHS and JjK has waaaay better anination overall, and great animation is one of AoT trademarks.

To be fair, Attack on Titan is a lot more difficult to draw, since the characters all have much more detailed faces, and it's still only 2 episodes in, episodes that don't matter that much compared to future events so it's a bit unfair to compare it to the finished GOH and the ongoing JJK at ep.11 I think. Also the scenes in JJK and GOH were much easier to animate. If anyone has some official insight on the animation process, I welcome them to share it here.

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