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| Reiner's flashback this episode. Seeing Reiner suicidal makes me sad. Good to see Annie and Berthold again, being warriors since they were kids must have been tough for them. On top of that, they lost Marcel. Oh look the Hobo is here. They cut some parts out a bit but I'm still happy we've what we got. |
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| A bit rushed bit it was so good that those 20 minutes flew. |
| A lot of content was cut from the manga as expected but the only impact from it that I could feel really is how the story flowed from one scene to the next in this episode due to the fast pace. It was still enjoyable to watch and a good episode but it shouldve taken 1.5 episodes at least to adapt. Storyboard and direction were solid. Next 2 episodes are about to be jawdroppers. |
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| Really good episode.. but yeah it's a bit rushed... |
| I like how the score was at 9.04 and as soon as this episode dropped the score went back up, some people are about to start bitching again, Because from here on the score will only be going up if Mappa does these future episodes justice! Reiner_undieable said: One other small complain: the osts in this ep felt meh Well majority of them were season 1 ost. lol I guess you didn't like them back then too in season 1? |
Sourire said: Wait, what are you talking about, almost nothing relevant was left out from the script other than maybe a small extra characterization bit for Anne (I'm also comparing with the manga side by side every ep).A lot of content was cut from the manga as expected but the only impact from it that I could feel really is how the story flowed from one scene to the next in this episode due to the fast pace. It was still enjoyable to watch and a good episode but it shouldve taken 1.5 episodes at least to adapt. Storyboard and direction were solid. Next 2 episodes are about to be jawdroppers. Scenes just went by real fast (no Dorohedoro/Mob Psycho fast, but pretty fast), but there's not "a lot of content cut" at all, much less significant content, at that. I'd argue this is season so far is about the same pace as season 2, and a little slower than season 3 part 1 (which was actually rushed and skipped a bunch of significant content including an entire character arc). |
DanpmssDec 20, 2020 9:08 AM
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| Omg so i'm gonna come back and edit this later but I just watched the first ep no subs and it was chaos. I am so fucking proud of myself for figuring out that marcel was eaten by Ymir WAY before the scene was even shown. I could tell it was pretty rushed though...why can't they cut the OP and ED? |
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| 62 replies, wtf, where are you guys even watching? Do all of you people know Japanese? Shit that's crazy, other anime don't get many replies in their episode discussion until the English sub arrives, AoT episode discussion already has 62 replies |
 I said keep your hands on the table |
Arin-san said: 62 replies, wtf, where are you guys even watching? Do all of you people know Japanese? Shit that's crazy, other anime don't get many replies in their episode discussion until the English sub arrives, AoT episode discussion already has 62 replies Idk japanese but I still watched it no subs until I do get a subbed version in a few hours. Kinda stupid, but I've done it with a few other anime before and I feel like I grasp what is going on better that way. Yes, I am pirating aot atm.....If you want the cite pm me and i'll give it to you |
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Arin-san said: 62 replies, wtf, where are you guys even watching? Do all of you people know Japanese? Shit that's crazy, other anime don't get many replies in their episode discussion until the English sub arrives, AoT episode discussion already has 62 replies Next to it, lately, maybe Higurashi Gou, although smaller in number, sparkles discussion and theorizing as early as a minute after the episode airs. Though you could also argue most of them are just manga readers familiar with the material that already know all what is going on beforehand. |
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| Godawful episode, felt like a mid-cour recap episode, unifitting OST, cut why RBA didn't just keep breaking walls and instead joined the military, cut Annie's involvement in the attack so it looks like waifugirl is innocent, cut Reiner's blatant incompetence in training days, the redone attack on Shiganshina was rushed and lazy, tons of reused good animation mixed with Mappa's CGI crap within seconds, timeline makes zero sense, showing the hanged man scenes when RBA were refugees AFTER showing them joining the 104th, cut scenes of Reiner being a good guy in the 104th, cut most of reiner's reminiscing before his suicide attempt just an all around awful episode and an even worse adaptation of some of the most emotionally gripping content in the manga. |
| I will keep moving forward, until the CrappaCAMELS are destroyed... |
Skjilani said: LeonhartAnnie0 said: Better cherish this episode cz this is the last time we’ll see the female titan and colossal titan in glorious 2D. Not that I don’t like 3D, I think it was implemented very well so far. Overall, amazing episode. We finally get to see Annie in anime format again and I AM HERE FOR IT. I think colossal is completely 2d for every episode The colossal is 2D because LAZYppa realized it would be faster than making a new CGI model, same with marcel's jaw and Annie. it's all about what's easiest, they reused WIT's actually good animation yet instead of drawing new stills for the new scenes they just showed a still image of Reiner's CGI model. It's just a lazy hackjob cashgrab so Mappa can fund JJK and ChainsawMan. |
| I will keep moving forward, until the CrappaCAMELS are destroyed... |
VanishingKira said: Most of this ep was just the warrior past when they were younger. Yuki Kaiji speaking to Falco kind of ruins the surprise for anime onlys (most of them are probably aware already anyways). What, you want someone else to voice him now!? Of course this is the moment when anime onlys are supposed to be confirmed of Eren. That's exactly why the close up shot was there in the final moment of the episode. |
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EnterSNEEDren said: Godawful episode, felt like a mid-cour recap episode, unifitting OST, cut why RBA didn't just keep breaking walls and instead joined the military, cut Annie's involvement in the attack so it looks like waifugirl is innocent, cut Reiner's blatant incompetence in training days, the redone attack on Shiganshina was rushed and lazy, tons of reused good animation mixed with Mappa's CGI crap within seconds, timeline makes zero sense, showing the hanged man scenes when RBA were refugees AFTER showing them joining the 104th, cut scenes of Reiner being a good guy in the 104th, cut most of reiner's reminiscing before his suicide attempt just an all around awful episode and an even worse adaptation of some of the most emotionally gripping content in the manga. Well this god awful episode for you have its benefit as this sacrifice means the future episode pacing will be good and we wont be experience major cuts or any cuts at all in the future episodes. They only have 16 episodes to work with, something has to be sacrifice, if you look at it in that perspective you will realize the script writer made the best choice. |
EnterSNEEDren said: Godawful episode, felt like a mid-cour recap episode, unifitting OST, cut why RBA didn't just keep breaking walls and instead joined the military, cut Annie's involvement in the attack so it looks like waifugirl is innocent, cut Reiner's blatant incompetence in training days, the redone attack on Shiganshina was rushed and lazy, tons of reused good animation mixed with Mappa's CGI crap within seconds, timeline makes zero sense, showing the hanged man scenes when RBA were refugees AFTER showing them joining the 104th, cut scenes of Reiner being a good guy in the 104th, cut most of reiner's reminiscing before his suicide attempt just an all around awful episode and an even worse adaptation of some of the most emotionally gripping content in the manga. The things they cut here weren't even essential, just babbling we already heard from Reiner's characterization thus far in. Quite ironic for you to have said that after complaining about this "feeling like a recap". |
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| every episode just gets better than the last one. we move forward. |
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| I didn't really like the episode for all the things they cut, but I'll wait for the subs before judging more. That being said, the episode looked pretty good. kino |
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Eren31 said: bad episodes lots of strange things, Porco asked Reiner whether you are an expert at shooting, martial arts expert, smart, strong, your skills only talk, without the intended scene, as well as suddenly a colossal Titan appeared on the wall without explanation, after I compared with their manga running the full 2.6 chapter marathon in episode 3 it was crazy and looks very rushed worse storytelling than NNT S3, it seems mappa has no interest in making flashback animations, as my fans are disappointed with mappa They only have 16 episodes, they had to make sacrifices. read this https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1883320 I don't think you will be complaining about things getting cut in the future episodes, so in the long run you will be happy about this. |
| They are being very smart about what they cut. People need to look at the overall picture of what is portrayed and not the individual scenes. |
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Eren31 said: EnterSNEEDren said: yes I agree and I am angry to see the cut, look at them inserting 2.5 chapters in episode 3 it is very crazy and unreasonable, rushed and pushy, it's very annoying because the story of Reiner in manga I really like and they spoil it, I don't care if they use CGI but don't cut the source material, flashback in the stupidest wayGodawful episode, felt like a mid-cour recap episode, unifitting OST, cut why RBA didn't just keep breaking walls and instead joined the military, cut Annie's involvement in the attack so it looks like waifugirl is innocent, cut Reiner's blatant incompetence in training days, the redone attack on Shiganshina was rushed and lazy, tons of reused good animation mixed with Mappa's CGI crap within seconds, timeline makes zero sense, showing the hanged man scenes when RBA were refugees AFTER showing them joining the 104th, cut scenes of Reiner being a good guy in the 104th, cut most of reiner's reminiscing before his suicide attempt just an all around awful episode and an even worse adaptation of some of the most emotionally gripping content in the manga. Well if I had to choose, I would rather they fucked up Reiner back story than fucking up what is going to happen in future episodes. Its a trade off fasting up these episodes so future episodes can get good pacing, again they only have 16 episodes. Which would you rather they fucked up? Reienr back story or what happen in the future episodes? This isn't a perfect scenario so sacrifices has to be made unfortunately. Also reminder this has nothing to do with Mappa as its the same script writer from previous seasons. Eren31 said: keragamming said: If they want to make sacrifices at least just get rid of Reiner Anni Bertold talking to stupid old man inside paradise wall, or they stop at Reiner pointing a gun in her mouth or they can get rid of op or ed.They only have 16 episodes, they had to make sacrifices. read this https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1883320 I don't think you will be complaining about things getting cut in the future episodes, so in the long run you will be happy about this. And this is where we reach the what scene should have stayed and what shouldn't this now is pure opinion and some else would have a different opinion to you. As I said though this sacrifice will be worth it as they now have to adapt the remaining 25 chapters (they are ending at chapter 122 it seems) in 13 episodes which is good. |
keragammingDec 20, 2020 10:06 AM
keragamming said: Eren31 said: yes I agree and I am angry to see the cut, look at them inserting 2.5 chapters in episode 3 it is very crazy and unreasonable, rushed and pushy, it's very annoying because the story of Reiner in manga I really like and they spoil it, I don't care if they use CGI but don't cut the source material, flashback in the stupidest way Well if I had to choose, I would rather they fucked up Reiner back story than fucking up what is going to happen in future episodes. Its a trade off fasting up these episodes so future episodes can get good pacing, again they only have 16 episodes. Which would you rather they fucked up? Reienr back story or what happen in the future episodes? This isn't a perfect scenario so sacrifices has to be made unfortunately. Also reminder this has nothing to do with Mappa as its the same script writer from previous seasons. Eren31 said: If they want to make sacrifices at least just get rid of Reiner Anni Bertold talking to stupid old man inside paradise wall, or they stop at Reiner pointing a gun in her mouth or they can get rid of op or ed. And this is where we reach the what scene should have stayed and what shouldn't this now is pure opinion and some else would have a different opinion to you. As I said though this sacrifice will be worth it as they now have to adapt the remaining 25 chapters in 13 episodes which is good. This entire argument relies on the cope that they won't butcher future moments either, after Liberio is another stretch of dialogue filled chapters that will be butchered, and they'll have to try and fit 121 and 122 in a single episode, inevitably cutting some of the best manga moments ever put to paper. Zeke's flashback will also likely be ruined because they'll add more Levi action. Ruining RBA's characters could only slightly be excused if they absolutely nailed every single episode from here on out, but it's simply not going to happen because Fatppa is rushing like hell and trying to cram as many chapters that season one covered in almost half the time with twice the dialogue. It's a disaster. |
| I will keep moving forward, until the CrappaCAMELS are destroyed... |
| Best development possible for Reiner, it was great, also we finally get more information with Eren at the end |
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| Reiner and suffering, can't think of better duo Quite fast paced episode, though they did cut a few scenes from the manga, nothing of much importance was lost |
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| Such an amazing episode!! Manga readers need to stop nitpicking |
LA_REEMIGRATION said: Manga reader here, did someone can explain to me, why Dinah didn't eat Bertolt when she can ? I ask to some friends and they didn't know but they tell me that "it wasn't important" but I strongly disagree, if someone can explain why it isn't important too I'll listen. Eren is controlling Dina to eat his mom so he can have the conviction to genocide the world. |
| I will keep moving forward, until the CrappaCAMELS are destroyed... |
Eren31 said: Omertaskaya said: lol it seems they want to wrap the entire remaining chapter of the manga in 16 episodesWhat the fuck. The storyline of this episode should have been 2 episode. Pacing was fast as hell. They cut A LOT of diologue between Reiner, Annie and Bertold. Man i really wanted o see those flashbacks properly... Again this has been disprove by official source. Also use a bit of common sense the pacing would have to be 5x times faster if they want to catch up to the latest chapter by 16 episodes and we don't even know if the manga is ending in March which is when the anime will end. Just use a bit of your brain and you would have realize that is impossible. If they were to adapt everything in 16 episodes literally multiple chapters would have to be skipped entirely. lmao |
| I'll be honest. I feel like some scenes could've been so much more powerful if this episode wasn't rushed. In particular, the conversation between Eren and Reiner in the flashback. In the manga that convo felt much more meaningful, but here it was more par for the course. Maybe I need to rewatch it with subs to confirm this. Aside from that, I feel like they really skimmed on the animation this episode. The choppiness and lack of frames was really noticeable, save for a couple scenes. And I can't forget how jarring that Armored Titan shot was. Really hope those are fixed in the Blu-rays. Then finally, for Eren's speech at the end, I felt the music could have used a bit more of "something" before the drop, don't know how to explain it properly. Still a enjoyable episode. |
HyperLDec 20, 2020 11:06 AM
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