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Jul 16, 2010 5:41 AM
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or does he ever come around to it?
as you can see, I haven't read the manga :P
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Jul 18, 2010 11:22 AM
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The yaoi fangirls would not want a cielxelizabeth . . The hard core ones would cry their eyes off . . Ha ha
Jul 18, 2010 12:06 PM
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lol, it can't be never haha. it was just lizzy's unrequited love xP



Jul 18, 2010 3:33 PM
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hell no
shes annoying lawl
Jul 18, 2010 4:19 PM
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He's 12 years old and has a demon. Love is the last thing he thinks of. But I do think that he has some warm feelings towards Lizzy, he cares about her, that's for sure. With time the love will come around though.
Jul 18, 2010 4:25 PM
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Yes, I think he does. He at the very least cares about her.
Jul 18, 2010 6:59 PM
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yes
at least i hope he does.
I like this series, but i can't stand yaoi or shounen-ai, so if this series stray from Ciel or CielxLizzy to CielxSebastian, i might drop it, and i don't want that to happen =((
Jul 18, 2010 7:11 PM
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honestly I'm wishing he doesn't love her, not just because I'm a CielxSebby fangirl but because she's too clingy and too whiny for Ciel. If she stays like that she'll just give Ciel tons of problems and headaches. And I don't believe that opposites attract, maybe they do but they don't last :P. If she grows up and be less annoying I might be able to accept her existence. CielxSebby isn't canon anyway so it's just either he'll end up with Lizzy or he'll end up with no one.
Jul 19, 2010 11:22 PM
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Uhm, I don't think the series will end in either couple, because it's not centered around romance, that's just what the fans want. The producers may hint at CielxSebby, but that's because they just want high ratings and fangirls to be happy.

But, to answer the question and not the discussion, no, I don't think Ciel loves her like that. I think he feels for her as a close friend who has been with with him since childhood. And truthfully, they wouldn't end Ciel with anyone, because if he ends with Elizabeth, fangirls with go crazy, and it's unlikely for him to end up with Sebby, as much as people want it.
Jul 20, 2010 12:48 AM

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silent_killer said:
The yaoi fangirls would not want a cielxelizabeth . . The hard core ones would cry their eyes off . . Ha ha


I'm the one will be like that *seriously*, but although if it were can not be change from to be CielXLizzy that would be fine. Because in real thing there are many people can't stand for Shounen-ai, Yaoi stuff. I understand that..>>well I hate BL before, but right now all of my heart giving to SebXCiel <33
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Yes he loves her.
Jul 20, 2010 1:01 AM

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I'm not sure. Sometimes it seems like he does love her, and other times it just seems like he tolerates her.

I like Ciel/Elizabeth, so hopefully he does :P
Jul 21, 2010 4:42 AM

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I think he does.
He cares for her.
And in eps2 you can see that he blush when he look at lizzy.
Jul 28, 2010 8:13 PM

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shinki7 said:
I think he does.
He cares for her.
And in eps2 you can see that he blush when he look at lizzy.


true. I def think he cares for her, but i don't think he'll ever love her.
I personally do not like lizzy, because of the breaking-ciel's-ring episode, but i don't really want him to end up with sebastian either...

thanks for all the answers guys! :)
Jul 30, 2010 9:53 AM

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Personally I think he does, it's normal for people to love their childhood friends or even just friends in general you know, I love my friends too, but from loving her to be in love with her.. well there's a difference. I do believe that right now Elizabeth is the person Ciel most treasures {apart from Sebastian, but Seby-san is treasured for other reasons, mostly the fact that he's needed to grant Ciel's purpose to live}

Since they're 12, Ciel now 13, and the series doesn't focus on romance I don't think we'll ever see any demonstrations of romantic love from Ciel, we all know that Sebastian is going to eat him {again} even if that makes us curse the whole world {T.T as I did at the end of the first season, I seriously wished that behind the scene after that last shot of Sebastian he would just "eat" Ciel in a erotic way lol, but that's what kept me from hating the fact that I'm crazy for Kuroshitsuji}.

Well that's what I see from the current state of the story and the plot in general, as well as myself being a yaoi fan so I'm hoping like crazy for more Ciel & Sebastian love hints than ciel x lizzy ones XD even tho I think lizzy is a cute character that shows to care deeply for ciel.

Ciel + Sebastian = LOVE mwuahaha ;P
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Jul 30, 2010 9:33 PM

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I think he obviously Cares A LOT for her and will do *even if he doesn't want too and sebastian kinda pushes...him in the ass...*NO STOP THINKING LIKE THAT PERVERRRTTTTT!=*3*=...* his lazy ass to do some of the activities with her* some stuff with lizzy, and he does protect her at times too.
I am open minded, I am a fangirl but I still like the straight o.o...
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Jul 30, 2010 9:46 PM

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Hopefully no...>___>
I'm actually sorta..CielxAlois..idk y..
Jul 31, 2010 6:39 PM

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EarlCiel said:
Hopefully no...>___>
I'm actually sorta..CielxAlois..idk y..


Dun tell me your into Uke ciel D= and Seme Alois TT_TT, I am not into BDSM, hardcore yes...but BDSM D=....Imagine the pain he would inflict to my Ciel D=!

pfftt =X
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Jul 31, 2010 6:50 PM

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He does, in a family kind of way since Lizzy is the only person alive that's been with him since he was a child.
Aug 1, 2010 1:23 PM

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Loves? Hmm, I doubt it.
But he does care for her, though.
It's clear that he thinks of her as a good friend, but I don't actually think he gives a damn about them being 'engaged' .
Which is fine by me, since Lizzy annoys me sometimes.

love is such a strange thing
but with you, it doesn't matter

Aug 2, 2010 6:23 AM

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He obviously cares about her a lot. Although the anime sucks at showing this and pushes SebastianxCiel way more than the manga does. >_> I think he'd fall for her as they got older. (He's going to have to, she's his fiancée.)

Also I do not understand BL fangirls.(Despite being one, albeit not a typical one...)

CielxSebastian is obviously never going to happen. You all know that, right? You can support it as much as you want, but you know it's not going to happen. So what's the problem with a different pairing happening? If your pairing is never going to happen anyway?

I'm sure I've just repeated myself about 10 times. @_@;;
Aug 2, 2010 7:48 AM

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Smochi said:
He obviously cares about her a lot. Although the anime sucks at showing this and pushes SebastianxCiel way more than the manga does. >_> I think he'd fall for her as they got older. (He's going to have to, she's his fiancée.)

Also I do not understand BL fangirls.(Despite being one, albeit not a typical one...)

CielxSebastian is obviously never going to happen. You all know that, right? You can support it as much as you want, but you know it's not going to happen. So what's the problem with a different pairing happening? If your pairing is never going to happen anyway?

I'm sure I've just repeated myself about 10 times. @_@;;


It's fandom don't bother with that XD!
I'll just keep on reading m Shota kuroshitsuji Dj's.
But the occasional CielxSeb is always welcomed in an episode =^.^=!
And there is no problem, well i don"t think so, its all a matter of taste o.o
Like i said in my previous posts, I am open minded: I find LizzyXSeb really cute, but clearly I prefer CielXseb cuz its even cuter =X!!
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Aug 2, 2010 9:29 PM

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I think he loves her, but more as a friendly type of relationship.

I don't want him to end up with Lizzy though, because as previously stated, she is just a nuisance, way to clingy, and doesn't fit well with the dark theme of the story. And I really hate her :/

BUT. I do not want Ciel to end up with Sebastian or Alois or Undertaker or ANYONE. I don't want Kuroshitsuji to be a yaoi. I think a little fanservice here and there is perfect, and turning it into a yaoi would just mess it up. Just mess it up a whole lot... and this is coming from a damn hard core yaoi fangirl.

//OFFTOPIC: On the other hand, what most people don't know, is that the artist/writer, Yana Toboso, actually wrote and illustrated a yaoi. I heard this from a youtube comment, and checked it out. The manga is called Rust Blaster, but I haven't found much about it, and I'm not even sure if it's actually a yaoi...
Aug 2, 2010 10:19 PM

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He does love her, and cares for her. But for some reason they are mainly focusing on CielxSebby pairing, that all the fangirls want. I don't really care who Ciel end up with. Sebby, Alois, Lizzy or others...



Aug 8, 2010 10:05 AM

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I don't know if I would call it love but he cares very much for her.
Aug 15, 2010 8:03 PM

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No, but he cares about her as a "fiance" and being gentle man himself.
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Aug 16, 2010 9:43 AM

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Kathleena said:
EarlCiel said:
Hopefully no...>___>
I'm actually sorta..CielxAlois..idk y..


Dun tell me your into Uke ciel D= and Seme Alois TT_TT, I am not into BDSM, hardcore yes...but BDSM D=....Imagine the pain he would inflict to my Ciel D=!

pfftt =X


Ehhh, wow. Ciel would like die from being the uke, roflll.
I doubt he'd be the uke though. But it'd be weird if he were the seme. xD.
But he'd die from being the uke if he were with sebastian too, rofl.
ew. UGHHH THE IMAGE IS IN MY HEAD SOMEONE GIVE ME A PICTURE
OF SOMETHING ELSE. No, notrlly.
-----
But honestly, I was just joking around up there.
I don't think of AloisxCiel as anyone being seme or uke..
I don't really want kuroshitsuji to be yaoi..
otherwise the plot would die like every yaoi, rofl...
I just think ofAloisxCiel as a really close friendship, I'd like for that to happen, but I'm not really sure it will. :/
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Well, I think he has some feelings for her but I honestly don't think they'd make a good couple. Elizabeth is too child like for Ciel. Ciel is the serious type.

Regarding Alois x Ciel - Alois is definitely seme. He'd rape Ciel in a second!
Aug 16, 2010 10:33 AM

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Well, if I had to choose someone to be the uke and the other to be the seme..
I'd think it would be Alois as the seme, too...but..
Yeah. I don't really want to look further than that otherwise my head
will be messed up like the first time I saw yaoi. @_____@
Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM

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Honestly I think he's gay.
Aug 16, 2010 10:46 AM

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Honestly I think he's gay.


lol KuroGayShitsuji
Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM
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EarlCiel said:
Kathleena said:
EarlCiel said:
Hopefully no...>___>
I'm actually sorta..CielxAlois..idk y..


Dun tell me your into Uke ciel D= and Seme Alois TT_TT, I am not into BDSM, hardcore yes...but BDSM D=....Imagine the pain he would inflict to my Ciel D=!

pfftt =X


Ehhh, wow. Ciel would like die from being the uke, roflll.
I doubt he'd be the uke though. But it'd be weird if he were the seme. xD.
But he'd die from being the uke if he were with sebastian too, rofl.
ew. UGHHH THE IMAGE IS IN MY HEAD SOMEONE GIVE ME A PICTURE
OF SOMETHING ELSE. No, notrlly.
-----
But honestly, I was just joking around up there.
I don't think of AloisxCiel as anyone being seme or uke..
I don't really want kuroshitsuji to be yaoi..
otherwise the plot would die like every yaoi, rofl...
I just think ofAloisxCiel as a really close friendship, I'd like for that to happen, but I'm not really sure it will. :/


I would like them to be friends with maybe some little hints of shounen ai. You know, maybe a peck on the cheek or a tight hug XD
If we're talking about yaoi, I see both Ciel and Alois as ukes, so I prefer not to see a hardcore scene between them because it would be pretty hilarious and nearly pathetic to see how they would manage it XD
The only two semes in this anime are Sebastian and Claude, but again, I'm not interested in hardcore scenes. I'm a shounen ai fangirl, not a yaoi one.
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Aug 16, 2010 1:55 PM

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Same here, I'm a shounen-ai fangirl, yaoi is just too hardcore for me.
Rofl, Ciel and Alois do both seem like ukes, rofl.
Aug 17, 2010 12:42 PM

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I don't like shounen-ai or yaoi. :/
probably cause I'm a guy. what the heck is a uke and seme?
well, I'm assuming I really don't want to know. so don't tell me. o,o'
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Principles said:
I don't like shounen-ai or yaoi. :/
probably cause I'm a guy. what the heck is a uke and seme?
well, I'm assuming I really don't want to know. so don't tell me. o,o'


Seme= dominator/top
Uke= dominated/Bottom
In a gay couple... =O!

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Same here, I'm a shounen-ai fangirl, yaoi is just too hardcore for me.
Rofl, Ciel and Alois do both seem like ukes, rofl.

Teh I want a foursome with Claude/Sebby/Alois and Ciel =D!
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I have nothing against gay people but...ughhh

*backs away slowly*
MEHHHHH!!!!!! TT , TT
I'm scared. ;c
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Principles said:
I have nothing against gay people but...ughhh

*backs away slowly*
MEHHHHH!!!!!! TT , TT
I'm scared. ;c

Why so scared D=!
Read some homo doushinsi...but I guess your just not into cute stuff =X
*even if gay sex his...not so pretty irl....it so fun in manga =D!*
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Aug 17, 2010 1:21 PM

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I demand an explanation, NOW! D=<
Aug 17, 2010 1:24 PM

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EarlAlois said:
Principles said:
I have nothing against gay people but...ughhh

*backs away slowly*
MEHHHHH!!!!!! TT , TT
I'm scared. ;c

Why so scared D=!
Read some homo doushinsi...but I guess your just not into cute stuff =X
*even if gay sex his...not so pretty irl....it so fun in manga =D!*


cause I'm a guy and I feel uncomfortable about it...o , o"
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EarlCiel said:
I demand an explanation, NOW! D=<

hummmmm.... =X!
I felt like it..no I swear i didn't not see the "lollll I'll murder the person who takes earlalois though."
I SWEAR I DIDIN'T SEE IT =X!!!!
*runs Away!!*
Principles said:
EarlAlois said:
Principles said:
I have nothing against gay people but...ughhh

*backs away slowly*
MEHHHHH!!!!!! TT , TT
I'm scared. ;c

Why so scared D=!
Read some homo doushinsi...but I guess your just not into cute stuff =X
*even if gay sex his...not so pretty irl....it so fun in manga =D!*


cause I'm a guy and I feel uncomfortable about it...o , o"


well if you liked shoujo ...but i don't think you do =X
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Fine. Since I am so forgiving, I forgive you. rofl.

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EarlCiel said:
Fine. Since I am so forgiving, I forgive you. rofl.


YAY!
=D
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I'm not sure. Sometimes it seems like he does love her, and other times it just seems like he tolerates her.


sounds like most relationships to me lol XP
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Oneironaut said:
I'm not sure. Sometimes it seems like he does love her, and other times it just seems like he tolerates her.


sounds like most relationships to me lol XP


what she said!
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RubyRedRabbit said:
Oneironaut said:
I'm not sure. Sometimes it seems like he does love her, and other times it just seems like he tolerates her.


sounds like most relationships to me lol XP


hahaha so true.
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Ciel doesn't love anyone. He doesn't care about his parents, he only uses Sebastian, he follows the queen's orders but would betray her too to safeguard his own interest, he doesn't care about his manor (he told his servants they could burn it to the ground if they wanted to), he doesn't care about his friends (like Soma) and he doesn't even care for himself because he's ready to give up his soul for a stupid revenge (he himself once said he knows that revenge is useless after all, so he doesn't even really care about revenge either).
His whole life comes down to a bunch of nothingness.
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Well, I personally think that what Astrid_ said is true for the anime but in the manga you see more sides of him. Also there are lots of comments on how whiny Lizzy is but in the manga she has some badass moments. She gets some back story as well so shes not just all hyper and annoying. Lastly, I think ciel needs Lizzy's positiveness cuz too much darkness could be really bad for him. they have balance.
I think that the manga is way better than the anime. So read it if you haven't!
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One day Lizzy will grow up to be a beautiful young lady, who is not as whiny as she once was, and cares for Ciel from the bottom of her heart. She will be wealthy, capable and charming, as befitting the betrothed of one of the Phantomhive family. And then we can laugh at all the boys-who-previously-hated-Lizzy ogling at her... LOL XD

As if... Anyway if I seriously answer this:

Umm, I think Ciel just cares for her though. They'd have to get older to see if that ever changes (which isn't gonna happen TTwTT)
These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`Д´)´∀`)・ω・) ゚Д゚)゚∀゚)・∀・) ̄ー ̄)´_ゝ`)
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From all iv seen it sure does seem like it. elizabeth to be honest she never came off as anoying to me. Though the ring episode made her look like a jerk it also showed at the same time she can learn from her mistakes since she felt horrible afterwards and tried to find a replacement. To be honest the only real time you see ciel look happy or blush is when she is around him. It seems she is necessary since not to sound corny she is the light to his dark. I think she does actually brighten his mood if she wasint around he would proboly be worst off.
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he loves her ... as a childhood friend =))

it makes sence when Ciel became evil & leave everything behind, of cource, include Elizabeth
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