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Jul 1, 2017 7:30 AM
#201
Light- said: I call it as I see it (even if it was 1 time, and said time was someone saying SAO was a masterpiece) Kuraokani said: Light- said: Kuraokani said: Light- said: Should've put "near" in the title for people like you I guess. You seem to be the only one who didn't get the direction of the post. your title: "When will we get another masterpiece" makes one assume that the following shows you are discussing are ones you consider masterpieces. It would also take an ignorant person to deny that. Also did you even read what I posted? I can deny the claim that they are near masterpieces too because there are plenty of reasons like I mentioned above for people to rate these shows so highly. Oh sorry, I didn't know that the score of 10 which you gave to Death Note doesn't actually mean it's a masterpiece to YOU like the definition of the score on MAL describes it to be. Got it, a 10 is a "near masterpiece" and an 11 is a masterpiece! OP, you said almost everyone considers the shows near masterpieces (because they are rated 8 or low 9 on MAL, a near masterpiece score), you never said you yourself consider them a near masterpiece. Based on your ratings & the way you worded this thread, I & many others in this thread can only assume you consider these shows masterpieces. What YOU think. That's what I'm trying to get at (after all those yous, I would have thought you'd get it by now). And don't tell me you don't consider these shows masterpieces because if you didn't, either you wouldn't rate them a 10 or your definition of a masterpiece (being flawless) is wrong and also you wouldn't have said when will we get ANOTHER masterpiece in your title. Kuraokani said: Lordwen said: Who said I was just looking at mal? Look at every anime site out there and see what the best anime are So many "masterpieces" get overlooked for this kind of messy definition guys like OP have. Stop giving that much importance to MAL ratings when recency bias makes up for 90% of the score for some titles. https://myanimelist.net/news/50582644 "best anime" is subjective. My point is, don't look at MY list then question my ability to acknowledge shows for what they are. P.S you not having the ability to have a sound argument without getting offensive and smart only shows just how immature you are. Couldn't the same logic then apply to the MAL ratings and community? Many people rate based on enjoyment just like you, (in fact most people around here do, just look at all the rating threads) so why do you then say that a show that surpasses FMA:B's 9.25 on MAL would have to be considered a masterpiece? In fact, why should we even care about MAL ratings when everything is subjective? For example, deathnote isn't even in the top 100 ratings in Japan (my link earlier), when it's one of 'top' shows on MAL. By the way, you talk about immaturity when your second reply only comes off as passive aggressive (if you didn't mean it to be, I'm sorry) and you've also been calling people's opinions dumb in this thread. As for as me using MALs rating system, it was for example only. If you want you look at other sites the be my guest. IMDBs FMA:B 9.1/10 Death note 9/10 Your Name 8.6... you can check other sites as well. These sites also are not region based, they contain critics/consumers reviews from all around the world and they post these 3 anime (the majority of the time) at the top. I have edited the post to reflect this |
Adi-BuddhaJul 1, 2017 7:37 AM
Jul 1, 2017 7:39 AM
#202
When the critics, edgelord fanboys, fujos, and casuals all agree on liking an anime again. Basically when the next anime that follows the painfully overrated Deathnote formula comes out. |
Saber-obsessed Fatestan. Nothing to see here |
Jul 1, 2017 8:38 AM
#203
Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. |
Jul 1, 2017 8:58 AM
#204
rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Who cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:01 AM
#205
Kuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:03 AM
#206
rawrX3pounces said: Kuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. Millions enjoyed Justin Biebers "Baby" and One Direction and etc. etc. you see where I'm going I wouldn't use "popularity" as reason to believe something is better than something else, seems a bit flawed |
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Jul 1, 2017 9:10 AM
#208
Kuraokani said: What comes out then? The next season of blues clues? Well if Sakura is Blue and Zouken is Steve then, yes. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:22 AM
#209
Manaban said: carpaccio said: Scarlett_ryuken said: carpaccio said: Scarlett_ryuken said: carpaccio said: le_halfhand_easy said: I'm talking about the community's rank attitude of lapping up any series, hyping them up to eleven, and treating shows like its the best thing since slice bread for merely not having fanservice or "dem dumfuk teenagerz". i think many are just getting fed up with the harem/fanservice shows that come out every season. personally i enjoyed qzgs because it was a lot of fun to watch, they could really work on the women though, they're pretty bland for the most part. either way, i wouldn't have gathered that point had you not explained it lol winter 2016 1 school harem show produced, 2 if you count phantom world https://myanimelist.net/anime/30749/Saijaku_Muhai_no_Bahamut https://myanimelist.net/anime/31442/Musaigen_no_Phantom_World spring 2016 2, 1 of which is a sequel https://myanimelist.net/anime/31338/Hundred https://myanimelist.net/anime/31737/Gakusen_Toshi_Asterisk_2nd_Season summer 2016 2, keeping in mind i didnt watch one of this https://myanimelist.net/anime/31845/Masou_Gakuen_HxH https://myanimelist.net/anime/33113/Scared_Rider_Xechs winter 2017 had 0 magic school LN harem this season has 2,(there's danmachi but fuck that ) https://myanimelist.net/anime/32951/Rokudenashi_Majutsu_Koushi_to_Akashic_Records https://myanimelist.net/anime/32901/Eromanga-sensei? seeing as only 3 shows break the 7 scale, which by mal standards where anything below 7 can be considered shit, and out of those 3 phantom world probably got kyoani fan boost and asterisk has sequel effect exactly 1-2 maybe 3 harem fanservice school show came out, so many man even if you want to get technical and loosen it to shows tat dont have the tags, thats still 5 at max, 5/almost 30 show is not enough to get fed up when most of those people honestly deserve it if they'll too stupid to not watch it or even do research to watch the show they want to watch reread my post, i never said there were many that come out every season. i also never mentioned anything about scores on harem/fanservice shows. not to mention, a show don't gotta be harem to be fanservice. fanservice is a shite term anyways Fan service (ファンサービス? fan sābisu), fanservice, or service cut (サービスカット? sābisu katto),[1][2] is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.[3] The term originated in Japanese,[4][5] in the anime and manga fandom, but has been used in other languages and media. It is about "servicing" the fan[6] – giving the fans "exactly what they want." which i find funny how most people who hate "fanservice" like other forms of it, back to your post, (ignoring my score thing cause i copy pasted from elsewhere) " many are just getting fed up with the harem/fanservice shows that come out every season. " this implies that many harem/fanservice shows must come out, unless somehow someone can get sick of again 1/2 harem/fanservice shows that come out, in which case that is no one's fault but their own, i proved that no, those people are idiots, who somehow think that 3-5 harem/fanservice (man this term really shouldnt be use with harem) is not alot. no, it doesn't imply that many must come out, just enough for it to gather enough attention for a good number of people to complain. whose fault it is isn't the subject of discussion here. Yes it very much is. When we're discussing people's reactions to something, in this case being "people sick of the constant Harem/Ecchi" and demanding new masterpieces and the like, and people go out of their way to point out that these shows are often few in number and hardly invading and controlling the entire medium, then calling out that mindset and reaction is very much discussing who's fault lies where. It's at the root of why people interpret it as something that cannot coincide with a "masterpiece" because they're demanding originality as a standard of quality in of itself as a result of the perception that these shows are "taking anime over" or whatever dumb shit like that they like to spew. They think it has to be different than the majority and breaking the mold without even entertaining the idea that H/E is already different from the majority as is, because somehow - in a way that's completely incomprehensible to me, mind you - they convinced themselves that these 1 or 2 - or 3 or 4 if it's a lucky season - per season are, in fact, the majority. When they are most 100%, undeniably not the majority if they would take a look at simple numbers. That much isn't even up for argument. And in this case, the fault would definitely lie with those few who exaggerate the prevalence of H/E, which is widespread enough that there are people who actually believe it unironically, in a way comparable to flat earthers from my point of view. If they can't handle one or two things per season being made that belongs to those genres, and must respond by painting the situation as if these types of shows are practically all that's being pumped out, then it very much just becomes a "them" issue whenever that blatant bullshit is put on display by simply looking at the seasonal listings archived on this very site. The call for less H/E and more masterpieces or whatever doesn't even coincide and these shows can exist alongside philosophical, existential, rocket-science based shit per season, H/E specifically is not preventing stuff like that from being made or at least no more than any other genres - and ultimately they'd still both pull two different audiences for the most part. It's a weak attempt at trying to intellectually justify putting down and calling for less of a type of show they dislike while trying to put something they like on a pedestal. No more, no less. When some people claim something and then it's outed as obviously false on numerous occassions and yet they keep on with their hyperbolic and outright ignorant rhetoric, then goddamn right it becomes a discussion over the fault lying with them because it's been proven time and time again that no matter how many examples you pull, no matter how little they can defend their blatantly incorrect perspective - and this isn't a matter of interpretation, the idea that H/E is even anywhere close to the majority of anime being made these days is 100% incorrect from a numerical standpoint and it shouldn't even be entertained as being anything except incorrect - then it's entirely an issue of the fault lying with them. They won't listen, they'll plug their ears and close their eyes to evidence and examples and everything that goes against their fearmongering narrative of H/E taking over the medium, and they'll continue spouting their asinine, ill-informed rhetoric as if it were fact. The reality is probably that one or two or so shows a season of something they might not like is probably too much for them and so they have to blow it out of proportion to compensate, since those one or two shows not targeted at their audience could probably just go to being something they would've wanted to watch instead, which is ridiculous. But yes. The discussion did turn over to who's fault it was since that narrative lies at the core of the discussion and that narrative is basically built upon fault and ignoring information that's right in front of their eyes. Thus, the fault lies with people who push that stupid, factually incorrect narrative that H/E is overrunning the medium, as if it's within the realm of reason and not outright removed from the reality they seem to determined to blind themselves too. On a personal note, I really have a visceral hatred for that narrative at this point. I don't know if I made that clear. triggered much? i'm simply stating that there are a lot of people that exist who get this impression, and that was my entire point. i don't care if it's their own fault or not for getting this impression. whose fault it was was never the subject of discussion until you ppl made it so. frankly, i can't be bothered to care to point fingers, i was just trying to trace where the first guy i quoted was coming from. think u need sleep m8, both of u need to calm ur tits/balls or w/e |
Jul 1, 2017 9:27 AM
#210
rawrX3pounces said: That's a very hipster wat of looking at the worldKuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:28 AM
#211
Fate_Nozomi said: I was kidding lol but what's the name of the show?Well if Sakura is Blue and Zouken is Steve then, yes. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:30 AM
#212
Kuraokani said: Quite not right, my friendo.rawrX3pounces said: That's a very hipster wat of looking at the worldKuraokani said: rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. You said you don't like FMAB that much right? But you admit it's great in every way. So why do you not like it? Quality and enjoyment are directly related. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:30 AM
#213
carpaccio said: These tits will never be calm again!Manaban said: carpaccio said: Scarlett_ryuken said: carpaccio said: Scarlett_ryuken said: carpaccio said: le_halfhand_easy said: I'm talking about the community's rank attitude of lapping up any series, hyping them up to eleven, and treating shows like its the best thing since slice bread for merely not having fanservice or "dem dumfuk teenagerz". i think many are just getting fed up with the harem/fanservice shows that come out every season. personally i enjoyed qzgs because it was a lot of fun to watch, they could really work on the women though, they're pretty bland for the most part. either way, i wouldn't have gathered that point had you not explained it lol winter 2016 1 school harem show produced, 2 if you count phantom world https://myanimelist.net/anime/30749/Saijaku_Muhai_no_Bahamut https://myanimelist.net/anime/31442/Musaigen_no_Phantom_World spring 2016 2, 1 of which is a sequel https://myanimelist.net/anime/31338/Hundred https://myanimelist.net/anime/31737/Gakusen_Toshi_Asterisk_2nd_Season summer 2016 2, keeping in mind i didnt watch one of this https://myanimelist.net/anime/31845/Masou_Gakuen_HxH https://myanimelist.net/anime/33113/Scared_Rider_Xechs winter 2017 had 0 magic school LN harem this season has 2,(there's danmachi but fuck that ) https://myanimelist.net/anime/32951/Rokudenashi_Majutsu_Koushi_to_Akashic_Records https://myanimelist.net/anime/32901/Eromanga-sensei? seeing as only 3 shows break the 7 scale, which by mal standards where anything below 7 can be considered shit, and out of those 3 phantom world probably got kyoani fan boost and asterisk has sequel effect exactly 1-2 maybe 3 harem fanservice school show came out, so many man even if you want to get technical and loosen it to shows tat dont have the tags, thats still 5 at max, 5/almost 30 show is not enough to get fed up when most of those people honestly deserve it if they'll too stupid to not watch it or even do research to watch the show they want to watch reread my post, i never said there were many that come out every season. i also never mentioned anything about scores on harem/fanservice shows. not to mention, a show don't gotta be harem to be fanservice. fanservice is a shite term anyways Fan service (ファンサービス? fan sābisu), fanservice, or service cut (サービスカット? sābisu katto),[1][2] is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.[3] The term originated in Japanese,[4][5] in the anime and manga fandom, but has been used in other languages and media. It is about "servicing" the fan[6] – giving the fans "exactly what they want." which i find funny how most people who hate "fanservice" like other forms of it, back to your post, (ignoring my score thing cause i copy pasted from elsewhere) " many are just getting fed up with the harem/fanservice shows that come out every season. " this implies that many harem/fanservice shows must come out, unless somehow someone can get sick of again 1/2 harem/fanservice shows that come out, in which case that is no one's fault but their own, i proved that no, those people are idiots, who somehow think that 3-5 harem/fanservice (man this term really shouldnt be use with harem) is not alot. no, it doesn't imply that many must come out, just enough for it to gather enough attention for a good number of people to complain. whose fault it is isn't the subject of discussion here. Yes it very much is. When we're discussing people's reactions to something, in this case being "people sick of the constant Harem/Ecchi" and demanding new masterpieces and the like, and people go out of their way to point out that these shows are often few in number and hardly invading and controlling the entire medium, then calling out that mindset and reaction is very much discussing who's fault lies where. It's at the root of why people interpret it as something that cannot coincide with a "masterpiece" because they're demanding originality as a standard of quality in of itself as a result of the perception that these shows are "taking anime over" or whatever dumb shit like that they like to spew. They think it has to be different than the majority and breaking the mold without even entertaining the idea that H/E is already different from the majority as is, because somehow - in a way that's completely incomprehensible to me, mind you - they convinced themselves that these 1 or 2 - or 3 or 4 if it's a lucky season - per season are, in fact, the majority. When they are most 100%, undeniably not the majority if they would take a look at simple numbers. That much isn't even up for argument. And in this case, the fault would definitely lie with those few who exaggerate the prevalence of H/E, which is widespread enough that there are people who actually believe it unironically, in a way comparable to flat earthers from my point of view. If they can't handle one or two things per season being made that belongs to those genres, and must respond by painting the situation as if these types of shows are practically all that's being pumped out, then it very much just becomes a "them" issue whenever that blatant bullshit is put on display by simply looking at the seasonal listings archived on this very site. The call for less H/E and more masterpieces or whatever doesn't even coincide and these shows can exist alongside philosophical, existential, rocket-science based shit per season, H/E specifically is not preventing stuff like that from being made or at least no more than any other genres - and ultimately they'd still both pull two different audiences for the most part. It's a weak attempt at trying to intellectually justify putting down and calling for less of a type of show they dislike while trying to put something they like on a pedestal. No more, no less. When some people claim something and then it's outed as obviously false on numerous occassions and yet they keep on with their hyperbolic and outright ignorant rhetoric, then goddamn right it becomes a discussion over the fault lying with them because it's been proven time and time again that no matter how many examples you pull, no matter how little they can defend their blatantly incorrect perspective - and this isn't a matter of interpretation, the idea that H/E is even anywhere close to the majority of anime being made these days is 100% incorrect from a numerical standpoint and it shouldn't even be entertained as being anything except incorrect - then it's entirely an issue of the fault lying with them. They won't listen, they'll plug their ears and close their eyes to evidence and examples and everything that goes against their fearmongering narrative of H/E taking over the medium, and they'll continue spouting their asinine, ill-informed rhetoric as if it were fact. The reality is probably that one or two or so shows a season of something they might not like is probably too much for them and so they have to blow it out of proportion to compensate, since those one or two shows not targeted at their audience could probably just go to being something they would've wanted to watch instead, which is ridiculous. But yes. The discussion did turn over to who's fault it was since that narrative lies at the core of the discussion and that narrative is basically built upon fault and ignoring information that's right in front of their eyes. Thus, the fault lies with people who push that stupid, factually incorrect narrative that H/E is overrunning the medium, as if it's within the realm of reason and not outright removed from the reality they seem to determined to blind themselves too. On a personal note, I really have a visceral hatred for that narrative at this point. I don't know if I made that clear. triggered much? i'm simply stating that there are a lot of people that exist who get this impression, and that was my entire point. i don't care if it's their own fault or not for getting this impression. whose fault it was was never the subject of discussion until you ppl made it so. frankly, i can't be bothered to care to point fingers, i was just trying to trace where the first guy i quoted was coming from. think u need sleep m8, both of u need to calm ur tits/balls or w/e |
Jul 1, 2017 9:35 AM
#214
rawrX3pounces said: I never listed enjoyment. Go back and look if you want. How can I acknowledge something is good without liking it myself? I don't like very large breast but I can see where they are good. Is that good enough of a example?Kuraokani said: Quite not right, my friendo.rawrX3pounces said: Kuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. You said you don't like FMAB that much right? But you admit it's great in every way. So why do you not like it? Quality and enjoyment are directly related. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:46 AM
#215
Kuraokani said: Connecting dots.rawrX3pounces said: I never listed enjoyment. Go back and look if you want. How can I acknowledge something is good without liking it myself? I don't like very large breast but I can see where they are good. Is that good enough of a example?Kuraokani said: rawrX3pounces said: That's a very hipster wat of looking at the worldKuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. You said you don't like FMAB that much right? But you admit it's great in every way. So why do you not like it? Quality and enjoyment are directly related. You said in OP you didn't even really like FMA. That's enjoyment. And that's just acknowledgement of a fetish which are neither good nor bad by default. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:47 AM
#216
I have hope i will believe in the anime that are yet to come Sure most of the recent animes haven't really been anything ground breaking but code geass 3 is gonna be released and that is either gonna shoot for the moon or crash and burn. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:50 AM
#217
rawrX3pounces said: I'm sorry but I give up. This post isn't to discuss what makes a anime great. Go find one of those Kuraokani said: Connecting dots.rawrX3pounces said: Kuraokani said: Quite not right, my friendo.rawrX3pounces said: That's a very hipster wat of looking at the worldKuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. You said you don't like FMAB that much right? But you admit it's great in every way. So why do you not like it? Quality and enjoyment are directly related. You said in OP you didn't even really like FMA. That's enjoyment. And that's just acknowledgement of a fetish which are neither good nor bad by default. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:51 AM
#218
Kuraokani said: Fate_Nozomi said: I was kidding lol but what's the name of the show?Kuraokani said: What comes out then? The next season of blues clues? Well if Sakura is Blue and Zouken is Steve then, yes. It's the first Heaven's Feel movie :P |
Jul 1, 2017 9:52 AM
#219
PunkHazard98 said: I'm so hyped for season 3. I had no idea that Lelouch was still alive. I think they can live upI have hope i will believe in the anime that are yet to come Sure most of the recent animes haven't really been anything ground breaking but code geass 3 is gonna be released and that is either gonna shoot for the moon or crash and burn. |
Jul 1, 2017 9:55 AM
#220
Kuraokani said: lol whatrawrX3pounces said: I'm sorry but I give up. This post isn't to discuss what makes a anime great. Go find one of those Kuraokani said: rawrX3pounces said: I never listed enjoyment. Go back and look if you want. How can I acknowledge something is good without liking it myself? I don't like very large breast but I can see where they are good. Is that good enough of a example?Kuraokani said: Quite not right, my friendo.rawrX3pounces said: That's a very hipster wat of looking at the worldKuraokani said: You either agree with the majority or you have separate thoughts.rawrX3pounces said: Well I originally said that I didn't like it that much. Did you read the reply (not being smart)? I was saying millions don't lie when referring to rating something. Not that I agree with the majority. Believe it or not but someone can agree with the majority but still have separate thoughts. Kuraokani said: Millions?rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? Kuraokani said: I'm curious if we watched the same show.I myself didn't even really like FMA. But with that said, I could not deny that it's near perfect in all categories. Sound, animation, story, characters, every category is great. And that's also a bad mindset since most people can't even state why they like something. You said you don't like FMAB that much right? But you admit it's great in every way. So why do you not like it? Quality and enjoyment are directly related. You said in OP you didn't even really like FMA. That's enjoyment. And that's just acknowledgement of a fetish which are neither good nor bad by default. So basically you have no idea why these things are masterpieces. |
Jul 1, 2017 10:09 AM
#221
Kuraokani said: If it's an objective masterpiece that doesn't fit my taste I might just not watch it at all or rate it low if I do.zombie_pegasus said: Aren't you at least interested though? Being witness to something like that is what I thought all people want. It's coming out in 2018 https://myanimelist.net/anime/35672/Yama_no_Susume__Third_Season On a serious note, I don't really care when the next masterpiece comes out if it's not an anime I'm going to enjoy. After all, I watch anime as a hobby, not as a critic. |
Jul 1, 2017 10:15 AM
#222
Kuraokani said: PunkHazard98 said: I'm so hyped for season 3. I had no idea that Lelouch was still alive. I think they can live upI have hope i will believe in the anime that are yet to come Sure most of the recent animes haven't really been anything ground breaking but code geass 3 is gonna be released and that is either gonna shoot for the moon or crash and burn. I was hyped as well but once i though about how the hell they were gonna make it any better than the previous season i was stumped.there is like a 70% chance they are gonna screw this up |
Jul 1, 2017 10:19 AM
#223
Well due to the fact that art is subjective I believe there will never be an anime that is a complete 'masterpiece', since there will still be people that see it as bad. Be it due to their personal opinion or that they believe it is 'overrated' and hate it because of its popularity/status. For example, I for one believe that when the BnHA anime has reached the point of where the manga is now to me it will equal (or even surpass) my feelings towards the shows you have listed, such as FMA:B, and therefore will be considered a 'masterpiece' to me. However, there will be plenty of people who disagree with my personal opinion and will not like the anime, meaning it is not a true 'masterpiece' even if the majority think it is. Also, there are anime like Yuri on Ice that were watched by many people outside of the anime community, and therefore if all those people rated it on MAL it would most likely have a much higher score. Which would then make it more considered to be a 'masterpiece'. |
Jul 1, 2017 10:49 AM
#224
PunkHazard98 said: True. It'll be hard to beat but I'll be happy with more of our favorite neighbor terroristKuraokani said: PunkHazard98 said: I have hope i will believe in the anime that are yet to come Sure most of the recent animes haven't really been anything ground breaking but code geass 3 is gonna be released and that is either gonna shoot for the moon or crash and burn. I was hyped as well but once i though about how the hell they were gonna make it any better than the previous season i was stumped.there is like a 70% chance they are gonna screw this up |
Jul 1, 2017 12:55 PM
#225
Sometimes MAL scores misrepresent what is a masterpiece and what isn't. Bananya is a great example. |
"No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
Jul 1, 2017 1:06 PM
#226
FanSinceVHS said: The truth hits hard but I'm stronger for it. Thanks bro Never. Anime is dead. Get over it kid. |
Jul 1, 2017 1:08 PM
#227
When Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Jul 1, 2017 1:27 PM
#229
Most of you wouldn't know quality anyway. You're pretty silly always praising generical animes. FMAB is generic on every aspect yet you rate the first series inferior for not following the manga. How can you expect quality when the industry has to please such silly fans? |
Jul 1, 2017 1:35 PM
#230
Aplope said: Some elitist come to save the day? Give us a break from your scrutiny Most of you wouldn't know quality anyway. You're pretty silly always praising generical animes. FMAB is generic on every aspect yet you rate the first series inferior for not following the manga. How can you expect quality when the industry has to please such silly fans? |
Jul 1, 2017 1:36 PM
#231
Intense_ said: SAO sucks. People who say SAO doesn't suck like monster mursume for the plotInsert modern anime is trash comment. |
Jul 1, 2017 1:37 PM
#232
Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik |
Jul 1, 2017 1:50 PM
#233
Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Jul 1, 2017 1:51 PM
#234
Kuraokani said: Aplope said: Some elitist come to save the day? Give us a break from your scrutiny Most of you wouldn't know quality anyway. You're pretty silly always praising generical animes. FMAB is generic on every aspect yet you rate the first series inferior for not following the manga. How can you expect quality when the industry has to please such silly fans? Says the guy with the pompous arguments... We'd be better off without your original silly assessments... |
Jul 1, 2017 1:52 PM
#235
Takamura-sama said: Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: When Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me Madhouse is a terrible studio so if you want your edgy manga to have any sort of decent adaptation visually you should look for someone else. |
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
Jul 1, 2017 1:53 PM
#236
RainyRai said: Takamura-sama said: Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me Madhouse is a terrible studio so if you want your edgy manga to have any sort of decent adaptation visually you should look for someone else. What are u saying madhouse is great, and it would get unlimited budget |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Jul 1, 2017 1:54 PM
#237
that new Makoto Shinkai movie got up fast series just need enough hype tbh |
Jul 1, 2017 1:57 PM
#238
Give another 10 years or so, and maybe. |
Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:04 PM
#239
Takamura-sama said: I believe man. If your taking request though, can you try and make Kaneki not cry as much in the first season? LolKuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: When Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me |
Jul 1, 2017 2:05 PM
#240
MortalMelancholy said: Hopefully I'm around then. Maybe if they remake Future Diary (without all that sci if) lolGive another 10 years or so, and maybe. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:06 PM
#241
RainyRai said: Ha! I respect your opinion but this has got to be bait. Takamura-sama said: Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me Madhouse is a terrible studio so if you want your edgy manga to have any sort of decent adaptation visually you should look for someone else. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:07 PM
#242
Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: I believe man. If your taking request though, can you try and make Kaneki not cry as much in the first season? LolKuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me He's gonna cry even more man he's gonna cry even more |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:09 PM
#243
Takamura-sama said: I'm boycotting your remake then! Madhouse don't accept the deal! Lol Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me He's gonna cry even more man he's gonna cry even more |
Jul 1, 2017 2:11 PM
#244
Kuraokani said: MortalMelancholy said: Hopefully I'm around then. Maybe if they remake Future Diary (without all that sci if) lolGive another 10 years or so, and maybe. https://myanimelist.net/anime/31904/Big_Order_TV Lel |
Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:22 PM
#245
DiangeloKun18 said: They need to remake Yuu Yuu Hakuso. lolWhen berserk gets a new adaption like they did with HxH. |
Jul 1, 2017 2:36 PM
#246
Kuraokani said: RainyRai said: Ha! I respect your opinion but this has got to be bait. Takamura-sama said: Kuraokani said: Takamura-sama said: Hopefully that might happen. We'll be waiting till 2025 thoughWhen Tokyo Ghoul gets a reboot I thik I'll get rich and sponsor madhouse/white fox for the adaptation and right. Dw m8 I'll make it slow paced and with the best voice actors +music. I'll buy unravel and play it as an op + I'll ask TK to make a new TG album. It'll be great trust me Madhouse is a terrible studio so if you want your edgy manga to have any sort of decent adaptation visually you should look for someone else. Nah it's not bait, I legit believe that modern Madhouse(basically after they were bought out when they went bankrupt, HxH 2011 onwards) is garbage. They've made like four shows that I've legit enjoyed(HxH 2011 which has many similar problems to a lot of Madhouse shows but also ends up fixing those problems, No Game No Life which I barely remember, and ACCA + OPM because Shingo Natsume is a competent director and can make good anime.) They suck, and I hate everyone who asks for them to readapt their manga because it will still suck by them. |
every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
Jul 1, 2017 2:53 PM
#247
Kuraokani said: Intense_ said: SAO sucks. People who say SAO doesn't suck like monster mursume for the plotInsert modern anime is trash comment. WORD you tell them man sao could have been so much more then that trash that we ended up with |
Jul 1, 2017 3:03 PM
#248
Kuraokani said: Gohdhand said: It's simple, I didn't like it that much but I acknowledge that everything about its good. How can you say that FMA is perfect in every category and then also say that you didn't really like it. If everything about it is good, then how could you not like it? |
What's the difference? |
Jul 1, 2017 3:11 PM
#249
everyone has a different definition of masterpiece but the general consensus among top western critics seem to be something that is very emotionally visceral and explores the universal deep-seated flaws that humans have to contend with. Of course I'm not saying this alone makes a masterpiece, and I was referring to movie critics who hold stuff like God Father/Citizen Kain in high acclaim. Most anime is very lighthearted, and maybe it's a sort of counter culture to the rather dark movies that western culture praises a lot. I dont know. It's up for debate. But one thing I look for in determining a personal masterpiece is how much a writer puts themselves into the product. Like, no superficial social pressure to look cool, and just reveal themselves how they really are. It's hard to explain. In this way masterpieces tend to be attached to a single person for me, and not just a staff or animation style. It's about getting to know a single individual and how they see the world. If that makes sense. But this is just one sense of a masterpiece, and of course it's different for other people. |
Jul 1, 2017 3:38 PM
#250
Gohdhand said: Jesus Christ, I'm for real about to give you my experience with FMA:B (it spans 2 years). So the reason I say I didn't like itKuraokani said: Gohdhand said: How can you say that FMA is perfect in every category and then also say that you didn't really like it. If everything about it is good, then how could you not like it? About 2 years ago I started to get interested in Anime (I can't remember what I saw that peaked me interest but it happened nonetheless) and came across this show. So I started watching, and during my time watching I may have skipped a few episodes accidentally or stopped watching for a lengthy time and picked it back up weeks later (I wouldn't remember where I left off, hence why I skipped a few episodes). Eventually I dropped it all together. So while I say that I don't like the show, it's my own fault for ruining it for myself. I remember a lot of what I saw story wise. The reason I never picked it back up was because I'm not the type of person to re watch 40 episodes of stuff I remember. I'm actually in the process of watching it now but it's a slow go because like I said, I just don't like to pick up a show that I dropped. Another example would be fairy tail. I was watching it and one day (forgot why) I stopped. I couldn't remember where I left off so I didn't pick it back up. It's not the fact that I thought is was bad, I just can't be bothered to be honest. You know "it's better to build a new chair rather than repair the old one" |
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