| Vegeta, what does the scouter say about MAL's powerlevel? It's less than 9000! |
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| To me the reason has always been the number of anime you can rec to a person after you rec the first. The amount you can tell about a person by what element they loved about Inuyasha is far greater than what you can tell about a person from Chobits. The amount of common anime themes and artstyle and tropes in Inuyasha is greater than in Chobits. I would actually not say Full Metal Alchemist is a good first anime. It is too western. I don't like it as a first anime for the same reason I don't like Cowboy Bebop. But I guess if you want to box a person into only western style anime.... Go ahead. Inuyasha, Naruto, Sailor Moon- These are very much superior first anime because they are uniquely Japanese. Because they have elements of eating, dere tropes, are very long so a person doesn't have to find a new one. You can tell a lot about what a person will like in the future by their favorite characters in these series. You can rec things based on if they liked the youkai elements, the action, the dramatic episodes. They really are shows that have everything. But they also have a lot of comedy and filler. They wont be the best show they have ever seen. But they will look back on them with nostalgia. My best friend's first anime was Battle Athletes. And I feel pretty strongly that that anime is a better first anime than Full Metal Alchemist for just having elements which you cannot find in western shows. It is the uniquely OVA anime hyjinx. My aunt says Shugo Chara was her first. I watched a couple episodes and yes, there are so many elements which you can spring from. She said the thing that got her was the cat boy. And welp. That right there. That hooks you into anime and only anime really. Rec after that Loveless, Yuri on Ice, Fruits Basket. She actually watched Fruits Basket as her second and Loveless as her third anime when she was 12. She is 17 now and loves Neon Genesis and Yuri on Ice. Reccing stuff like Chobits leads to nothing. That is why you don't rec Chobits to newbies, Don't rec Wandering Son. You rec titles which have many connections. And are not western. But are relatable enough. |
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| Wow weirdest thread I've seen in a while. I guess people just hate popular things so much that they're even bothered by the popular way in broadening anime taste. Edit: Nvm I didn't read his profile. OP is weird |
lunarxlunarJul 1, 2017 8:24 PM
rawrX3pounces said: I assumed this thread was just a shitpost attempt. I mean he has OP in favorites and rated AoT s2 high. I mean you rated black lagoon 3 and kill la kill 4. |
TDBanimefan said: kiss said: Jesus, don't roast this guy too hard. Having me laughing my ass off over here. Well despite the overkill, it was a good reply. I think that last thing is something about how capitalism is ruining anime. I think? Somethingvto do with a consumer sociaty or, in other words, capitalism. Sounds like he was trying to say something profound.What are you even asking? Your topic says powerlevel but you never actually explain it You dislike that people enter anime through a logical step (popular -> less popular -> branching out) Well how else would you suppose they get introduced to anime? If it's popular it's popular, so a wider audience will see it and potentially gain interest and branch out from there - what would you expect? I think it'd be rare and dumb to "expect" people to just "stumble" upon Legend of Galactic Heroes "cristallisation of the consumerist society applied to anime" no idea wtf that even means.. good post 10/10, do you have a blog I could subscribe to and receive future editions? haha thanks :] Too bad he just quit replying to me altogether and instead took on the lower hanging fruit like the @Seiya posts Don't worry, i still appreciated your effort~ |
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| Easiest way to show how you have good taste in anime. >rate everything very low. |
lighthalzen-kun said: Why? I want to see what people here have to say concerning the topic of "anime culture". On another matter, I'll just add that I dislike the fact that people always "enter" the anime world with the same titles (FMA, Steins;Gate...) and after a while try "harder things like Kaiji and after a while again try artsy things like Kaiba and after another while start to get hipstery and shit. I mean it's always the same "cultural evolution" from people to people (well there are exceptions, I'm not one. But I've long observed the anime fan community and I recognize myself in most people and I've some hindsight). It's not an important matter anyway. Oh yes it is, it's the cristallisation of the consumerist society applied to anime. Where is the art, where is the curiosity and personality of each individual experience? I also hate synopsis and people who read them. The best i could interpret this is, that you hate the fact that people don't watch artsy anime. And you mentioned something about consumerism. Most people on here don't even pay for anime (not even a streaming service) so I doubt you'd get a productive discussion there. You should encourage people to read the synopsis so they could make better decisions when choosing anime. |
Kuraokani said: iie, ive heard "power level" used in a similar context on /a/lighthalzen-kun said: Bait! Albeit very funny bait but still. When referring to "anime culture" people don't use the term "power level". It seems like you just coined that phrase hoping it would resonate with the community. Little did you know it would backfire and everyone would look at you like "WTF?" I'm too lazy to write a pamphlet to explain but just "anime powerlevel" or "anime culture" should ring a bell I mean, why are there only people whose favorites are post-2010 anime here intuitively, it's a measure of one's anime knowledge |
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| Wow... OP said some deep vocabulary that even Google don't know. Anyway, what's a "powerlevel" OP? |
Kuraokani said: b-butromagia said: Yeah well if google don't know it then it's not a actual term. That shit ain't even on urban dictionary iie, ive heard "power level" used in a similar context on /a/ intuitively, it's a measure of one's anime knowledge http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=powerlevel |
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lunarxlunar said: Waiting for the punchline.rawrX3pounces said: I assumed this thread was just a shitpost attempt. I mean he has OP in favorites and rated AoT s2 high. I mean you rated black lagoon 3 and kill la kill 4. Kuraokani said: You quoted my message twice in the same post.rawrX3pounces said: I hate the forum code you surf on. AOT s2 was the pinnacle of Anime. I assumed this thread was just a shitpost attempt. I mean he has OP in favorites and rated AoT s2 high. rawrX3pounces said: Haha! Says the person who gave NGE a 10/10. TRIGGEREDDDD!!I assumed this thread was just a shitpost attempt. I mean he has OP in favorites and rated AoT s2 high. |
rawrX3pounces said: Waiting for the punchline. Kuraokani said: You quoted my message twice in the same post.I hate the forum code you surf on. AOT s2 was the pinnacle of Anime. Haha! Says the person who gave NGE a 10/10. TRIGGEREDDDD!! rawrX3pounces said: yeah it's the post ironic way of quotingWaiting for the punchline. Kuraokani said: You quoted my message twice in the same post.I hate the forum code you surf on. AOT s2 was the pinnacle of Anime. Haha! Says the person who gave NGE a 10/10. TRIGGEREDDDD!! |
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romagia said: yeah it's the post ironic way of quoting romagia said: yeah it's the post ironic way of quoting romagia said: Oh, thanks.yeah it's the post ironic way of quoting I learn more about the MAL meta every day. |
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romagia said: @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon romagia said: @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon romagia said: @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon romagia said: @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon romagia said: @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon romagia said: So, only even numbers, right?@rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces @rawrX3pounces oops, common faux pas triple quotes are frowned upon This is complicated. |
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kiss said: What are you even asking? Your topic says powerlevel but you never actually explain it You dislike that people enter anime through a logical step (popular -> less popular -> branching out) Well how else would you suppose they get introduced to anime? If it's popular it's popular, so a wider audience will see it and potentially gain interest and branch out from there - what would you expect? I think it'd be rare and dumb to "expect" people to just "stumble" upon Legend of Galactic Heroes "cristallisation of the consumerist society applied to anime" no idea wtf that even means.. good post 10/10, do you have a blog I could subscribe to and receive future editions? Dude you just completely shut him down XD  |
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| But... but.... I entered anime with a series I haven't heard anyone entered with, moved on to great romcom anime, then moved on to popular anime before deciding most of them aren't really for me from the start, finally stopping on "so bad that they are good" series. Yet my taste is still shit. Is my powerlevel not high enough on your arbitrary scale you alone created which no one else understood, yet you refused to explain? |
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Pullman said: Pretty sure my powerlevel dominates you. not too sure but i like you at least or not seeing your favourites |
 “Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
TDBanimefan said: kiss said: I figured out what he means by "cristallisation of the consumerist society applied to anime. " He is basically saying that the anime that is advertised and handled better are revered as great anime. While others that are masterpieces in his mind are overlooked. Guess he sorta has a point there.haha thanks :] Too bad he just quit replying to me altogether and instead took on the lower hanging fruit like the @Seiya posts Don't worry, i still appreciated your effort~ obviously and thank you it's all linked, the way you were introduced to anime, the way you introduce other people to anime and the way society handles art & culture |
“Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
scruffs said: lighthalzen-kun said: Why? I want to see what people here have to say concerning the topic of "anime culture". On another matter, I'll just add that I dislike the fact that people always "enter" the anime world with the same titles (FMA, Steins;Gate...) and after a while try "harder things like Kaiji and after a while again try artsy things like Kaiba and after another while start to get hipstery and shit. I mean it's always the same "cultural evolution" from people to people (well there are exceptions, I'm not one. But I've long observed the anime fan community and I recognize myself in most people and I've some hindsight). It's not an important matter anyway. Oh yes it is, it's the cristallisation of the consumerist society applied to anime. Where is the art, where is the curiosity and personality of each individual experience? I also hate synopsis and people who read them. The best i could interpret this is, that you hate the fact that people don't watch artsy anime. And you mentioned something about consumerism. Most people on here don't even pay for anime (not even a streaming service) so I doubt you'd get a productive discussion there. You should encourage people to read the synopsis so they could make better decisions when choosing anime. I don't "hate the fact that people don't watch artsy anime", I just hate that anime vastness is overlooked and its potential too, and the life, sweat, blood and tears of many creators too If people tried i wouldn't mind but people keep cattering to muh classic never going off-piste so most of them won't watch something like infinite ryvius because they won't have seen the required 100 anime first (not everyone watches 100 anime in his life). "You should encourage people to read the synopsis so they could make better decisions when choosing anime." Don't know if that would help, and I'm criticizing synopsis because in some cases like Texhnolyze or even Madoka Magica for a more popular one (but this one's reputation is already wasting it), people won't be interested if you don't spoil them in the synopsis. The best would be for newfags to blindly follow the recs of some seasoned people Based on their taste of film, literature, comics, music... for them not to wander at random too much. and so they would discover unprecedented titles that never crossed their mind i don't know how elitist that sounds but that's the best there are other ways to do it yourself like finding a list, basing yourself on a thumb picture and the name, watching it with those informations, but - if the list has only "very good" "classic" anime in it, the surprise's gona be limited - if the list has some less good anime that you watch "in the season" to pass time then the guy might fall onto something less to his taste (but that's good too imo) that's how i did once and realized that too much information on what you're gonna watch is bad (a top is bad, a random list of good to ok show is acceptable) |
lighthalzen-kunJul 2, 2017 3:25 AM
“Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
| Why are you talking about power levels when you have an average score of almost seven with over 600 completed anime? Kidding, but I would say that MAL is probably not the best place to have an in-depth discussion about older series. |
| Huh? An anime like Kaiba is a bit harder to market since it's not so explosive. FMA is more traditional and easy to dive into. It has nothing to do with quality. Some works are just more accessible. You don't start your philosophy with Being and Time. |
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| "You don't start your philosophy with Being and Time." And why not? People that start life by struggling usually ends up way more interesting as humans than countless copies of the capitalist offsprings trying to climb the social scale |
“Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
lighthalzen-kun said: Why is the "powerlevel" on MAL so low? Why? Well, MAL is just a bad place for discussion. Trolls do not get kicked out, duplicate threads are like grass in a garden, and nobody actually reads replies to a topic, including the topicstarter. lighthalzen-kun said: On another matter, I'll just add that I dislike the fact that people always "enter" the anime world with the same titles (FMA, Steins;Gate...) and after a while try "harder things like Kaiji and after a while again try artsy things like Kaiba and after another while start to get hipstery and shit. I mean it's always the same "cultural evolution" from people to people (well there are exceptions, I'm not one. But I've long observed the anime fan community and I recognize myself in most people and I've some hindsight). Wait, what? Normally, I would expect every user's path through anime to be unique. |
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| my powerlevel is over 8 million. but still have no idea what you are asking in this thread |
lighthalzen-kun said: "You don't start your philosophy with Being and Time." And why not? People that start life by struggling usually ends up way more interesting as humans than countless copies of the capitalist offsprings trying to climb the social scale Hmmm. Aristotelian telos. Af-grund. Yes, yes. Kierkegaard is wonderful by all means, taught me a lot about "suffering. But tell me, my humble intellectual enthusiast, is there something on how Kierk transitioned to the stage of Religious, or the complexity of Heidegger's hermeneutic circle, that you wish for anime fans to ponder and contemplate about so that they can improve their inclination to more respectable anime? At one point, I really wished as well for the community to be more philosophically-inclined in choosing their criteria for anime satisfaction but gave up on it. It was outright unfair. Although philosophy is supposed to be everywhere, it was not made to be spoon-fed to a certain extent as how science does it. That's why objective criteria is more prevailing, powers of observation, hermenutics, etc. Just be glad that YOU CAN APPRECIATE YOUR ANIME BY YOU OWN UNIQUE MEANS. Hehe... revolutionizing ways. That's so troublesome, even for a philospher in his own arena. You have guts though, I like it, but your proposition I think, is not feasible in the near foreseeable future. |
| you hate people who read the synopsis lol. funny you mention hipsters, you sound like a hipster though. |
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Zovuss said: my powerlevel is over 8 million. but still have no idea what you are asking in this thread Historicity, dear. I have an inkling that the OP considered himself/herself disjointed from the current time "domain". hence he/she can already talk about ways as to how "changes" should proceed, or how things after should come. That's why wisdom only comes with experience. |
| Suprised this point hasn't been made: If you start with popular shows you can 100% enjoy them, after having watched some more unique shows you may be a little prejudiced once you go back to the popular ones again (what you shouldn't be, in my opinion it's best not to set yourself a ''taste-standard'' and not evaluate shows based on if their popularity). How you perceive quality can/will always change based on your knowledge, but since this is a hobby where you purely have fun by watching something for me it's the best to always adjust your standard to the kind of show you're watching. |
| POWER LEVEL GUIDE: 1. liking shit entry level anime 2. getting tired of repeating tropes and bad writing and try harder anime 3. getting into artsy critically acclaimed anime 4. realizing every anime over its decades long history is worthless 5 (very rare high level power) making 500 threads about individualism and subjectivity every day |
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Azurblau said: Suprised this point hasn't been made: If you start with popular shows you can 100% enjoy them, after having watched some more unique shows you may be a little prejudiced once you go back to the popular ones again (what you shouldn't be, in my opinion it's best not to set yourself a ''taste-standard'' and not evaluate shows based on if their popularity). How you perceive quality can/will always change based on your knowledge, but since this is a hobby where you purely have fun by watching something for me it's the best to always adjust your standard to the kind of show you're watching. How can one "adjust standard"? I'm not sure if that is possible. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: To me the reason has always been the number of anime you can rec to a person after you rec the first. The amount you can tell about a person by what element they loved about Inuyasha is far greater than what you can tell about a person from Chobits. The amount of common anime themes and artstyle and tropes in Inuyasha is greater than in Chobits. I would actually not say Full Metal Alchemist is a good first anime. It is too western. I don't like it as a first anime for the same reason I don't like Cowboy Bebop. But I guess if you want to box a person into only western style anime.... Go ahead. Inuyasha, Naruto, Sailor Moon- These are very much superior first anime because they are uniquely Japanese. Because they have elements of eating, dere tropes, are very long so a person doesn't have to find a new one. You can tell a lot about what a person will like in the future by their favorite characters in these series. You can rec things based on if they liked the youkai elements, the action, the dramatic episodes. They really are shows that have everything. But they also have a lot of comedy and filler. They wont be the best show they have ever seen. But they will look back on them with nostalgia. My best friend's first anime was Battle Athletes. And I feel pretty strongly that that anime is a better first anime than Full Metal Alchemist for just having elements which you cannot find in western shows. It is the uniquely OVA anime hyjinx. My aunt says Shugo Chara was her first. I watched a couple episodes and yes, there are so many elements which you can spring from. She said the thing that got her was the cat boy. And welp. That right there. That hooks you into anime and only anime really. Rec after that Loveless, Yuri on Ice, Fruits Basket. She actually watched Fruits Basket as her second and Loveless as her third anime when she was 12. She is 17 now and loves Neon Genesis and Yuri on Ice. Reccing stuff like Chobits leads to nothing. That is why you don't rec Chobits to newbies, Don't rec Wandering Son. You rec titles which have many connections. And are not western. But are relatable enough. i realized i missed your post which is quite interesting one i do get your point tho but i dont know what to say i agree that there are meaningful anime and meaningless ones and people tend to watch a correlation of quality, popularity, historically meaningful and by their guts/taste but their approach is kinda abstract and the top MAL is a kinda summary of those criterias i'd like to find something new so that people get to see hidden gem as well as popular things but "artificially" guiding people might not be good either because your memory of anime is also linked to a moment in your life (maybe your broke up and you watch a romance anime so it'll have impact on you) so i dunno but my main concern is: how to incite people not to catter to "the best" and get them to "taste" less meaningful anime, and incite them to appreciate them for what they are it's a matter of social mentality too |
“Read as little as possible of critical or aesthetic works. They are either products of a close-minded spirit, petrified and devoid of meaning in their lifeless hardening, or clever verbal games [...]. Works of art are of an infinite solitude; nothing is worse than criticism for approaching them. Only love can grasp them, keep them, be just toward them. Always give precedence to your own feeling against these analyses, these reviews, these introductions. [...] You must let every impression, every seed of feeling, ripen within you, in the dark, in the inexpressible, in the unconscious, those regions closed to understanding. Wait with humility and patience for the hour of the birth of a new clarity. Art demands of its faithful followers as much as of its creators.” — RAINER-MARIA Rilke, Letters to a Young Poet (letter dated April 23, 1903). |
Azurblau said: Suprised this point hasn't been made: If you start with popular shows you can 100% enjoy them, after having watched some more unique shows you may be a little prejudiced once you go back to the popular ones again (what you shouldn't be, in my opinion it's best not to set yourself a ''taste-standard'' and not evaluate shows based on if their popularity). How you perceive quality can/will always change based on your knowledge, but since this is a hobby where you purely have fun by watching something for me it's the best to always adjust your standard to the kind of show you're watching. There is no other way around it. Say, if metaphysics, ontology, or epistemology will be taught to students as early as Grade 2-3 as part of a newly reformed academic curriculum that envisions to cultivate heightened intellectualism, will the social patterns and norms in absorbing or consuming visual medium such as anime observably change as well? As an underlying statement, is there a need to change the way how social institutions were stabilized in this world? That's why it's troublesome. But no, I can't see the point of the individual having to do the "adjustments", I'd rather see a change in the way how anime industry operates (such as financing and advertising) than to shamelessly blame it all to an individual's lack of intellectual exposure. Institutions do control us. Shit-taste people don't probably exist. We just happen to be the end-receivers as to how the fabric of society was constructed so I believe relativism in an individual basis will not offer the best help or band-aid solution for the aforementioned issue that was raised by the OP. |
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