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May 9, 2017 4:58 AM
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flannan said:
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@flannan Interestingly Simpson's Japanese counterpart is technically Saze- San and oh my God Saze-San has such realistic art.


Well, we aren't watching Sazae-san or Crayon shin-chan. Or any of the numerous anime that are clearly aimed at kids.
We really like anime for a limited subset of it that appeals to us. And western animation is notably weak in that subset.
I'm sure you can name a cartoon that appeals to the right audience and is good-looking. Maybe you can even name a dozen.
But anime gives us this much every season, giving me the opportunity to choose something that uniquely appeals to me. Western cartoons can't beat that.
For example, there is a sci-fi anime that actually cares about relativity (Soukou no Strain). Will western cartoons ever dare to appeal to people who can understand such things?


Sazae-san is not amied at kids its a family anime[ like Disney is] maied at all hence why its at a time slot ere most people can m watch [ btw its based on shojo manga]


and shin chan is the same and it was the us dub that kiddie fied i it was genral family viewing


funny but by legal deferntion in Japan shounen and shojo are aimed at kids

seinen and Josei are aimed at adults legally you not an adult in Japan until 20


so amied at kid unless it a kadomo anime ie amied at younger kids then most of the anime we watch are aimed ta kids by the legal defernintion of the term child
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May 9, 2017 5:12 AM

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DateYutaka said:
flannan said:

Well, we aren't watching Sazae-san or Crayon shin-chan. Or any of the numerous anime that are clearly aimed at kids.
We really like anime for a limited subset of it that appeals to us. And western animation is notably weak in that subset.
I'm sure you can name a cartoon that appeals to the right audience and is good-looking. Maybe you can even name a dozen.
But anime gives us this much every season, giving me the opportunity to choose something that uniquely appeals to me. Western cartoons can't beat that.
For example, there is a sci-fi anime that actually cares about relativity (Soukou no Strain). Will western cartoons ever dare to appeal to people who can understand such things?


Sazae-san is not amied at kids its a family anime[ like Disney is] maied at all hence why its at a time slot ere most people can m watch [ btw its based on shojo manga]


and shin chan is the same and it was the us dub that kiddie fied i it was genral family viewing


funny but by legal deferntion in Japan shounen and shojo are aimed at kids

seinen and Josei are aimed at adults legally you not an adult in Japan until 20


so amied at kid unless it a kadomo anime ie amied at younger kids then most of the anime we watch are aimed ta kids by the legal defernintion of the term child

I did not mean to imply that Sazae-san and Shin-chan are meant for kids. "Kids anime" was meant to be a separate category, and I meant "kodomo" category when I said that.
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flannan said:
DateYutaka said:


Sazae-san is not amied at kids its a family anime[ like Disney is] maied at all hence why its at a time slot ere most people can m watch [ btw its based on shojo manga]


and shin chan is the same and it was the us dub that kiddie fied i it was genral family viewing


funny but by legal deferntion in Japan shounen and shojo are aimed at kids

seinen and Josei are aimed at adults legally you not an adult in Japan until 20


so amied at kid unless it a kadomo anime ie amied at younger kids then most of the anime we watch are aimed ta kids by the legal defernintion of the term child

I did not mean to imply that Sazae-san and Shin-chan are meant for kids. "Kids anime" was meant to be a separate category, and I meant "kodomo" category when I said that.


ok

funny thing is those komodo anime are also inconic anime in genreal anpanman for exmaple

funny fact


i was reading seinen and Gekiga when i was very young[ i use it to hle me lre Kanji since there no or very little Furigana in seinen manga Shima kosaku [ manga franchise] is on of faves of all time ]

the anime of it is awfull though its shorts anime absed on one of the most biigets selling nag of all time

its could have ran 26 epiodes of each seation of the manga easliy



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May 9, 2017 5:41 AM

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Bobby2Hands said:
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Weeaboos have a superiority complex.
There have been many cartoons with blood and nudity ever since the 90's.

There has been blood and nudity in cartoons for a long time. Just look at Fritz the Cat, it has full on dicks/pussies out nudity and that was made in 1972
Coonskin and Heavy Traffic as well but cartoons like that at that time in the 70's was the exception not the norm.

flannan said:

Well, we aren't watching Sazae-san or Crayon shin-chan. Or any of the numerous anime that are clearly aimed at kids.
We really like anime for a limited subset of it that appeals to us. And western animation is notably weak in that subset.
I'm sure you can name a cartoon that appeals to the right audience and is good-looking. Maybe you can even name a dozen.
But anime gives us this much every season, giving me the opportunity to choose something that uniquely appeals to me. Western cartoons can't beat that.
For example, there is a sci-fi anime that actually cares about relativity (Soukou no Strain). Will western cartoons ever dare to appeal to people who can understand such things?
You mean the copy and paste no lips, no nose for female characters look? Well I like a diversity of character designs with characters with different noses, chins etc. Cartoons give me female characters with lips on a far higher level than anime and has far more unique settings. Cartoons give me more wacky, fun stuff that I can watch without having a gazillion and one lolis for otakus in it and set in boring school.

Will anime ever parody Abe and satirize every part of Japanese society? Will any anime ever have the balls to do what Southpark does? Will anime ever have illegal streaming as an actual anthropomorphic enemy in an anime since illegal streaming is common thing for anime?

Will anime ever use character songs instead of boring exposition to give information about characters?

That ecchi tag in that anime would distract anyone from caring about relativity.
May 9, 2017 5:48 AM
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because i can't masturbate to them...



lol.. im not.. i just like anime so much more to the point where i no longer care to watch other cartoons
May 9, 2017 5:50 AM

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EcchiLordMamster said:
because i can't masturbate to them...
I generally can't fap to anime girls yet I still like anime.



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DrGeroCreation said:
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because i can't masturbate to them...
I generally can't fap to anime girls yet I still like anime.


LMAO i should've known you were gonna respond XD

i "LIKE" western cartoons... at least the ones i grew up with... for example, if im watching TV once in a blue moon and i see something on boomerang from my childhood, i may watch a few episodes.. but like i said, this is rare

the appeal of anime is just too strong for me.. everything... especially since Japan doesn't give a fuck and doesn't bow down to shit like SJW trash
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Western cartoons have no meaningful overarching plot.

Their characters do not have real character development,they only act to be cool.To prove how "badass" they are.

I ultimately cannot take them seriously.They are only interested in isolated moments for ratings.

American media is also a propganda machine.It is a political tool and nothing more,especially now.

Of course anime fans have reasons to look down on them.









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EcchiLordMamster said:


the appeal of anime is just too strong for me.. everything... especially since Japan doesn't give a fuck and doesn't bow down to shit like SJW trash
What sjw trash is there in cartoons ?

genesic123 said:


Their characters do not have real character development,they only act to be cool.To prove how "badass" they are.
LOL Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show have better character development than like most anime characters and come across more human than even some actual human anime characters.
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DrGeroCreation said:
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the appeal of anime is just too strong for me.. everything... especially since Japan doesn't give a fuck and doesn't bow down to shit like SJW trash
What sjw trash is there in cartoons ?


its not about what the cartoons have, its about what they don't... and no im not just talking about sexual stuff

also its kinda dumb when they completely change a comic just to appease some butthurts
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DrGeroCreation said:
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the appeal of anime is just too strong for me.. everything... especially since Japan doesn't give a fuck and doesn't bow down to shit like SJW trash
What sjw trash is there in cartoons ?

genesic123 said:


Their characters do not have real character development,they only act to be cool.To prove how "badass" they are.
LOL Mordecai and Rigby from Regular Show have better character development than like most anime characters and come across more human than even some actual human anime characters.


That somehow explains everything.Just bring up a name of a random show,no reason to explain lol.


I wish the word character development wasn't this misused.


May 9, 2017 6:05 AM

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EcchiLordMamster said:
DrGeroCreation said:
What sjw trash is there in cartoons ?


its not about what the cartoons have, its about what they don't... and no im not just talking about sexual stuff

also its kinda dumb when they completely change a comic just to appease some butthurts
What do they don't have. Ecchi harem garbage , non stop little girls? What cartoon was complete changed to appease to butthurts?

genesic123 said:


That somehow explains everything.Just bring up a name of a random show,no reason to explain lol.

I wish the word character development wasn't this misused.
Mordo and Rigs went from being lazy young adult slackers to actually start thinking about their future in terms of career and education, Benson from the same show became more of a friendly boss than a strictly authoritarian one but still be strict when push comes to shove, Muscle Man became more of a eccentric friend than a troll etc. The characters and character development in it are amazing.
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DrGeroCreation said:
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There has been blood and nudity in cartoons for a long time. Just look at Fritz the Cat, it has full on dicks/pussies out nudity and that was made in 1972
Coonskin and Heavy Traffic as well but cartoons like that at that time in the 70's was the exception not the norm.

flannan said:

Well, we aren't watching Sazae-san or Crayon shin-chan. Or any of the numerous anime that are clearly aimed at kids.
We really like anime for a limited subset of it that appeals to us. And western animation is notably weak in that subset.
I'm sure you can name a cartoon that appeals to the right audience and is good-looking. Maybe you can even name a dozen.
But anime gives us this much every season, giving me the opportunity to choose something that uniquely appeals to me. Western cartoons can't beat that.
For example, there is a sci-fi anime that actually cares about relativity (Soukou no Strain). Will western cartoons ever dare to appeal to people who can understand such things?
You mean the copy and paste no lips, no nose for female characters look? Well I like a diversity of character designs with characters with different noses, chins etc. Cartoons give me female characters with lips on a far higher level than anime and has far more unique settings. Cartoons give me more wacky, fun stuff that I can watch without having a gazillion and one lolis for otakus in it and set in boring school.

Will anime ever parody Abe and satirize every part of Japanese society? Will any anime ever have the balls to do what Southpark does? Will anime ever have illegal streaming as an actual anthropomorphic enemy in an anime since illegal streaming is common thing for anime?

Will anime ever use character songs instead of boring exposition to give information about characters?

That ecchi tag in that anime would distract anyone from caring about relativity.


You do know that cartoon cannot best anime character designs right? They are just more varied and unique.

Anime doesn't need to parody Abe or Japanese society. No one's interested in that. Illegal streaming as an anthropogenic enemy? No one wants to watch that ー_ー.

Why do you have such a strong opinion about character songs in anime? It won't fit in an anime.

I'm pretty sure ecchi is not the main subject of Soukou no Strain. I've seen people give it a 10. So I'm sure they are not watching it for the nudity.
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EcchiLordMamster said:
the appeal of anime is just too strong for me.. everything... especially since Japan doesn't give a fuck and doesn't bow down to shit like SJW trash

I feel like I need to repeat what I said earlier.

Western cartoons get far more offensive than anime ever has. Go watch Drawn Together, the whole point of the show is to offend anybody and everybody. It's chocked full of swearing, violence and uncensored full frontal nudity. They make incredibly racist jokes, they make fun of the mentally disabled, there's even a joke about raping a dead child and a donkey.

I sure as hell don't remember any SJWs getting butthurt about it, and this is how feminists are portrayed in the show.


How is this bowing down to SJWs?
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DrGeroCreation said:
EcchiLordMamster said:


its not about what the cartoons have, its about what they don't... and no im not just talking about sexual stuff

also its kinda dumb when they completely change a comic just to appease some butthurts
What do they don't have. Ecchi harem garbage , non stop little girls? What cartoon was complete changed to appease to butthurts?



All that hipster virtue signaling.Much Alpha.

The state of American comics is pitiful(forced genderswapping)lol.Only the movies are keeping their dignity.


May 9, 2017 6:11 AM
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DrGeroCreation said:
What do they don't have. Ecchi harem garbage , non stop little girls? What cartoon was complete changed to appease to butthurts?


there you go with the bait... haters gonna hate i guess... stay salty.... japan don't care


Marvel and DC comics doing shit like Thor being a woman just to appease femists, or iron man being a little black girl to appease BLM... that kind of shit

theres nothing "wrong" with those things, but its why theyre being done thats stupid


and lol, if you're disturbed by anime having lots of little girls and sexy body parts that aren't even real, thats an issue with YOU, not anime.. don't compare the love people have for idealized fiction to real little girls, plz

japan don't give a fuck and they never should




Bobby2Hands said:

I feel like I need to repeat what I said earlier.

Western cartoons get far more offensive than anime ever has. Go watch Drawn Together, the whole point of the show is to offend anybody and everybody. It's chocked full of swearing, violence and uncensored full frontal nudity. They make incredibly racist jokes, they make fun of the mentally disabled, there's even a joke about raping a dead child and a donkey.

I sure as hell don't remember any SJWs getting butthurt about it, and this is how feminists are portrayed in the show.


How is this bowing down to SJWs?


theres a difference between that and japan

that was done on purpose to troll or make a statement

japan is just being japan and people are complaining
May 9, 2017 6:12 AM

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@genesic123 LOL nice ad hominem attacks and we are talking about cartoons here not comics. Stay on topic.

@EcchiLordMamster That is comics not cartoons. LOL I'm not disturbed about lolis or sexy body parts. I'm just tired of anime mainly only focusing on little girls and teen girls. Superhero cartoons have far more adult female characters I can like than anime.


Omkar_Nagwade said:

You do know that cartoon cannot best anime character designs right? They are just more varied and unique.

Anime doesn't need to parody Abe or Japanese society. No one's interested in that. Illegal streaming as an anthropogenic enemy? No one wants to watch that ー_ー.

Why do you have such a strong opinion about character songs in anime? It won't fit in an anime.

I'm pretty sure ecchi is not the main subject of Soukou no Strain. I've seen people give it a 10. So I'm sure they are not watching it for the nudity.
DC superhero character designs by Phil Bourassa destroy character designs in anime. Anime characters barely ever have lips and noses like real people.




Well by that logic cartoons don't need to talk about relativity . I don't want or need to see a cartoon about that.
I think character songs could fit in anime. They could have given it a 10 because of the nudity. It may not be the main aspect but it will sure to be distracting.
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DrGeroCreation said:

Will anime ever parody Abe and satirize every part of Japanese society? Will any anime ever have the balls to do what Southpark does? Will anime ever have illegal streaming as an actual anthropomorphic enemy in an anime since illegal streaming is common thing for anime?

It seems to me that you either haven't watched Gintama or made this little list on purpose for the sake of the irony xD
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DrGeroCreation said:
@genesic123 LOL nice ad hominem attacks and we are talking about cartoons here not comics. Stay on topic.


So afraid of being on the receiving end I see.......

This stuff will be the cartoons of the future so I won't call it pointless just yet.
I won't talk about that regular show.Don't bring something so niche and expect people to auto know it,and watch every episode.

For most of American cartoons.

The shitty episodic comedy and inconsequental situations don't help in the case of "development".

They don't build upon anything.From common shows like justice league, superman,by at large, only have these isolated moments that don't matter in the long run.

And even their comedy are just political stabs or cheap shots at something or someone.Unfunny at times.



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It seems to me that you either haven't watched Gintama or made this little list on purpose for the sake of the irony xD
Gintama is not on the same level as Southpark Jal. It would never seriously take on Abe.

@genesic123 Don't think so since comics and cartoons are separate from each other. LOL Regular Show is one of the most popular 2010's cartoons, it is in no way niche.

Comedy in no way affects character development. There are a lot of cartoons that build up to certain events and events do carry over, it's obvious you know nothing about what you are talking about. The comedy is mainly satire which is a lot funnier than anime characters making stupid faces or some tsundere bitch punching a loser in the balls for no reason.
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DrGeroCreation said:
@genesic123 LOL nice ad hominem attacks and we are talking about cartoons here not comics. Stay on topic.

@EcchiLordMamster That is comics not cartoons. LOL I'm not disturbed about lolis or sexy body parts. I'm just tired of anime mainly only focusing on little girls and teen girls. Superhero cartoons have far more adult female characters I can like than anime.


Omkar_Nagwade said:

You do know that cartoon cannot best anime character designs right? They are just more varied and unique.

Anime doesn't need to parody Abe or Japanese society. No one's interested in that. Illegal streaming as an anthropogenic enemy? No one wants to watch that ー_ー.

Why do you have such a strong opinion about character songs in anime? It won't fit in an anime.

I'm pretty sure ecchi is not the main subject of Soukou no Strain. I've seen people give it a 10. So I'm sure they are not watching it for the nudity.
DC superhero character designs by Phil Bourassa destroy character designs in anime. Anime characters barely ever have lips and noses like real people.





You do know that we don't watch anime for "realistic character designs" right? If you want realistic, watch Aku no Hana or Tokyo Godfathers.
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The issue I've always had with western cartoons is that its so few and far between to get something that is TV-14 TV-MA that is an actual drama and not a episodic comedy or at the worst putrid trash like mr pickles that only exists to be offensive and gross. Thats probably why I am loving samurai jack so much and why I enjoyed spawn alot as a kid(dont know if it holds up could be terrible for all I know), they used the medium well to tell a darker story.

I dont think things need to be adult rated to tell a good story, im just saying I think western animation is greatly held back by the focus on kids especially when people try to make a more explicit series and cant due to that idea that cartoons are for kids. Samurai jack is the big one that comes to mind cause it was always meant to be what season 5 has been just no one would allow it at CN during the time. Theres serious talent just being wasted and it doesnt help that alot oof traditional 2d animation has been weeded out over the past decade and a half, I fucking miss the old dreamworks 2d animation.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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Omkar_Nagwade said:


You do know that we don't watch anime for "realistic character designs" right? If you want realistic, watch Aku no Hana or Tokyo Godfathers.
Sure but that disproves your cartoons can't best anime designs rhetoric. The rotoscoping in Aku no Hana looks really ugly to me and I prefer Kuchuu Buranko over it.
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@DrGeroCreation I don't know why you're on an anime forum. What's the point if you are so adamant on calling western cartoons superior because it has more controversial topics and "realistic" designs and character songs? As I said, Japanese and Americans have different cultures. No one wants to watch an anime taking on Shinzo Abe. And there are a lot of anime parodying Japanese culture.
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DrGeroCreation said:
jal90 said:

It seems to me that you either haven't watched Gintama or made this little list on purpose for the sake of the irony xD
Gintama is not on the same level as Southpark Jal. It would never seriously take on Abe.

@genesic123 Don't think so since comics and cartoons are separate from each other. LOL Regular Show is one of the most popular 2010's cartoons, it is in no way niche.

Comedy in no way affects character development. There are a lot of cartoons that build up to certain events and events do carry over, it's obvious you know nothing about what you are talking about. The comedy is mainly satire which is a lot funnier than anime characters making stupid faces or some tsundere bitch punching a loser in the balls for no reason.


Referential humor.

Superheros are not form Superhero comics?


We don't have to try anything of our own in the Cartoon master race.

Ultimately cartoons are for ratings.

Even within the harem genre there is far more variation.Even ecchi anime try to do things on their own.
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@DrGeroCreation I don't know why you're on an anime forum. What's the point if you are so adamant on calling western cartoons superior because it has more controversial topics? As I said, Japanese and Americans have different cultures. No one wants to watch an anime taking on Shinzo Abe. And there are a lot of anime parodying Japanese culture.
I LIKE both anime and cartoons. I CANNOT only like anime. Being on an anime forum doesn't mean I can't like cartoons as well or see cartoons being superior to anime in certain aspects. Likewise as I said I don't want to watch a cartoon about relativity. I also don't want a cartoon with overly melodramatic garbage like Madoka.

genesic123 said:

Referential humor.

We don't have to try anything of our own in the Cartoon master race.

Ultimately cartoons are for ratings.

Even within the harem genre there is far more variation.
Anime are only for dvd and merchandise sales. Yeah more variation of bouncing boobs.
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DrGeroCreation said:
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@DrGeroCreation I don't know why you're on an anime forum. What's the point if you are so adamant on calling western cartoons superior because it has more controversial topics? As I said, Japanese and Americans have different cultures. No one wants to watch an anime taking on Shinzo Abe. And there are a lot of anime parodying Japanese culture.
I LIKE both anime and cartoons. I CANNOT only like anime. Being on an anime forum doesn't mean I can't like cartoons as well or see cartoons being superior to anime in certain aspects. Likewise as I said I don't want to watch a cartoon about relativity. I also don't want a cartoon with overly melodramatic garbage like Madoka.

genesic123 said:

Referential humor.

We don't have to try anything of our own in the Cartoon master race.

Ultimately cartoons are for ratings.

Even within the harem genre there is far more variation.
Anime are only for dvd and merchandise sales. Yeah more variation of bouncing boobs.


If you only watch bouncing boobs that's on you.They do vary in plot ,character development

And ratings are based on mass appeal.They explain why American Cartoons are the way it is.

Anime doesn't entirely work this way.There are verying genres of anime.There are varying niches.American Cartoons have almost no variation by and large.



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@DrGeroCreation If you want to know what American cartoons Japanese people watch, then the most common answer is The Simpsons. When I asked my sensei why they watch it, they said that it's got black humor and that it's really dark. Other than that, some of them even watch Courage The Cowardly Dog, Marvel and DC cartoons and Ed,Edd & Eddy.

So, in general, people watch more anime than cartoons I guess.
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@genesic123 They aren't all that different from each other. Usually set in highschool, loser guy gets a harem out of nowhere, sometimes superpowers are involved etc. There are different genres of cartoons as well.

Mystery: Gravity Falls, Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Justice League Gods and Monsters, Wolverine and the X men.

Scifi - Rick and Morty, Duck Dodgers, Futurama, Star Trek TAS, Electric City

Sol - Flintstones, Weekenders, Doug, King of the Hill, As Told by Ginger, Hey Arnold, Clarence, Ed, Edd and Eddy, Monster High (sol of monster teenaged girls), 6Teen, Stoked, Lloyd in Space

Cyberpunk - Aeon Flux, Spicy City


@Omkar_Nagwade I've already know the cartoons Japanese fans like already thanks to a thread on Crunchyroll http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/02/19-1/japanese-anime-fans-pick-their-favorite-foreign-animation

More Japanese people watch anime than cartoons but not worldwide. Well there isn't any worldwide survey which shows if one is watched more than the other worldwide.
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Id say there really are/where good ones like avatar (still itd be easy to find better animes), theres GR which started really good but was a little disappointing at the end, tlo korra (I kinda felt weird about the story here). And those were good things but look what came oit in the last few years. Yeah, NOTHING! I did grow up on CN but still I think many above mentioned it, that anime has more to offer. Still after watching animes for 55.1 days which is about 1322.4 hours in 1.5 years I still have the feeling that I want to watch something good and there's also the problem with getting out of material to watch. In kind of an other way watching a MASTERPIECE makes youfeel depressed or something because you just bound tourself too much to a character or the anime and you know there wont be more than what you already watched(thats maybe what I dont like about animes) theres probably something inside of you that starts to throw average animes away because of a story not too original or something.
Like many said even if cartoons are for children in my country there are just people that hate it for no apparent reason and say things like chinese crap for kids?(btw. really they say chinese :P)
And now look at this while the new generations are mostly open and the majority of them have probably a friend that recommended them an anime and they watched it and its still hard to find someone who just does like it.(Ew still there are also bullies etc and many dont really think its social so its better to keep watching this epic stuff a secret while watching cartoons is totally acceptable and not even a little bit childish?WTF). There are the older people +-above 30 the majority of them is just trashtalking and laughing at you just because they think its "childish?"? Thats pretty much what I have to say.
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@genesic123 They aren't all that different from each other. Usually set in highschool, loser guy gets a harem out of nowhere, sometimes superpowers are involved etc.


Still more varied that mostly one thought cartoons.

The main idea Of American cartoons is just to be a dumb referential episodic comedy even if the setting changes with the same old story.

Some harem take place in another world.

Some harems have edgy or quiet protagonist.

Some have serious stories,mecha,battle royal etc.

The girls themselves have more variation.


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@EcchiLordMamster That is comics not cartoons. LOL I'm not disturbed about lolis or sexy body parts. I'm just tired of anime mainly only focusing on little girls and teen girls. Superhero cartoons have far more adult female characters I can like than anime.
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Well theyre still missing what I find appealing in anime, that hoes beyond the girls

Well japan praises youth, teenage girls are attractive and no one wants to be old

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Because anything people love that is slightly different from something else people love must clearly be superior, and the fact that it is superior must be known to the whole world.
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@Omkar_Nagwade I've already know the cartoons Japanese fans like already thanks to a thread on Crunchyroll http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/02/19-1/japanese-anime-fans-pick-their-favorite-foreign-animation

More Japanese people watch anime than cartoons but not worldwide. Well there isn't any worldwide survey which shows if one is watched more than the other worldwide.


Anime is niche and not as popular as cartoons. I think it should stay this way.
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@genesic123 LOL no. Cartoons have far more settings hence why as you said the settings always changes. LOL most comedic cartoons are satire not self referencial and contain different genres as I pointed out. The protagonist in ecchi are usually some pussy who is shy towards girls. Female cartoon characters have far more diversity in character design than those ecchi girls.

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Well theyre still missing what I find appealing in anime, that hoes beyond the girls

Well japan praises youth, teenage girls are attractive and no one wants to be old

20's isn't old. I like nice adult or mature looking female characters and I'm not into little girl loli characters.


Omkar_Nagwade said:


Anime is niche and not as popular as cartoons. I think it should stay this way.
It isn't really niche now since there are Hollywood movies based on anime now.
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Because they're not good. The fact that Avatar is my second favorite show after Naruto proves I'm not prejudiced. But other than that, there just aren't really any American cartoons that can compare to anime. At least not serious ones. I do watch and enjoy some adult comedy cartoons like Family Guy and South Park but that's really a totally different thing.

Watching Ben Ten just isn't entertaining to me. I watched shows like that when I was a kid but once I discovered anime I pretty much stopped.
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Batman Brave and the Bold is good.
Justice League Gods and Monsters is good.
Regular Show is good.
Steven Universe is good.
Wolverine and the X men is good
The Rabbi's cat is good
Star Wars Clone Wars is good
Martin Mystery is good
Young Justice is good.
The Painting is good.
Tales of the Night is good.
Adventure Time is good.
American Dad is good.
Moonbeam City is good.
Duck Dodgers is good
Green Lantern TAS is good
CW Vixen is good.
Samurai Jack is good.

@byakugami DC superhero animated movies are far more serious than your favorites Naruto and Bleach.
Batman Year 1 for example



Young Justice is also better than Naruto, Bleach and Avatar.

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20's isn't old. I like nice adult or mature looking female characters and I'm not into little girl loli characters.


well "kawaii" is one of the biggest elements of japanese pop culture and media

grown women generally are not adorable, theyre just sexy, which is why so many people like school girls, they are both

theres a few 20+ year old anime girls that i love but generally i like them in HS for the cuteness factor and the skirts
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DrGeroCreation said:


20's isn't old. I like nice adult or mature looking female characters and I'm not into little girl loli characters.


well "kawaii" is one of the biggest elements of japanese pop culture and media

grown women generally are not adorable, theyre just sexy, which is why so many people like school girls, they are both

theres a few 20+ year old anime girls that i love but generally i like them in HS for the cuteness factor and the skirts
Elena is more kawaii than any loli I have ever seen. She is a teen but she has a more mature look than the no nose, no lips lolis.



I disagree I find my anime waifu (Belldandy) adorable and Mizuho Kazami as well and they are adults. I consider my anime waifu to be cute and not sexy.

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@DrGeroCreation

you're on an anime forum and you expect anyone else on here to rather jerk off to a disney character or a western cartoon girl than an anime girl?

breh plz

i was HEAVILY into western cartoon women.. until Pokemon came out... lol... now i don't get turned on by them at all.. the only cartoon women that turn me on now are anime girls or girls drawn in anime style... and i mean actual anime style, not avatar or boondocks

i do really respect your hustle as a fan of western cartoon women, but sorry man, but MAL isn't the place, we like our kawaii Japanese cartoon school girls in short skirts with flat chests to physics defying tits



you know damn well if an anime girl was in front of you you'd try to bang the shit out of her.. who wouldn't?
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@EcchiLordMamster I never said anything about fapping to that character, I just find her to be way cuter than anime lolis. Not everything is about fapping.

I'm not expecting anyone to do anything I was just discussing my preferences with you. I know very well that everyone here on Mal prefers anime girls and hates cartoon female characters.

There are female anime characters I like but I generally don't fap to anime girls. Whenever I go on rule34 for zero suit samus I actually always get annoyed and turned off when she is drawn in an anime style because it makes her look too cutesy and little girlish. Sharp small eyes and lips to me are more of a turn on than huge eyes and no lips.
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DrGeroCreation said:
Batman Brave and the Bold is good.
Justice League Gods and Monsters is good.
Regular Show is good.
Steven Universe is good.
Wolverine and the X men is good
The Rabbi's cat is good
Star Wars Clone Wars is good
Martin Mystery is good
Young Justice is good.
The Painting is good.
Tales of the Night is good.
Adventure Time is good.
American Dad is good.
Moonbeam City is good.
Duck Dodgers is good
Green Lantern TAS is good
CW Vixen is good.
Samurai Jack is good.

@byakugami DC superhero animated movies are far more serious than your favorites Naruto and Bleach.
Batman Year 1 for example



Young Justice is also better than Naruto, Bleach and Avatar.

I haven't looked into it. Maybe it's pretty good. But superheroes just seem stupid and childish to me.
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I haven't looked into it. Maybe it's pretty good. But superheroes just seem stupid and childish to me.
Just watch it with an open mind. There are people who consider Naruto and Bleach stupid and childish yet I doubt their words would stop you from watching and liking them.
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Actually I wished, that more animes were like Gargoyles or Batman. I guess these series influenced my taste the most and I still compare them with new airing shows.
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It seems to me that you either haven't watched Gintama or made this little list on purpose for the sake of the irony xD
Gintama is not on the same level as Southpark Jal. It would never seriously take on Abe.

Gintama is a shonen. It can never take things too far or too bold. If you want satire with a lot of cursing, heavy themes, gore or sexual references (though Gintama, unsurprisingly for an anime, has plenty of the latter), check other demographics. And no, it hasn't specifically referenced Abe from what I recall. Still, close enough. In terms of variety of themes Gintama has parodied, it is certainly not behind South Park. It has mocked other shows, Japanese traditions and values, religion, gender roles, real life celebrities, the medium as a whole (the tropes, the creative process, the working conditions) and the fans.

And no, it didn't portray antipiracy as the enemy. It made it more complicated and meta. The second movie starts with a frame by frame parody of a popular antipiracy ad in Japan:

the twist, however, is that the "footage" this character saved is the basis for the entire storyline of the movie.
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@EcchiLordMamster I never said anything about fapping to that character, I just find her to be way cuter than anime lolis. Not everything is about fapping.

I'm not expecting anyone to do anything I was just discussing my preferences with you. I know very well that everyone here on Mal prefers anime girls and hates cartoon female characters.

There are female anime characters I like but I generally don't fap to anime girls. Whenever I go on rule34 for zero suit samus I actually always get annoyed and turned off when she is drawn in an anime style because it makes her look too cutesy and little girlish. Sharp small eyes and lips to me are more of a turn on than huge eyes and no lips.


ok well i mean, as you know im the opposite of you.. anime girls for me or no cartoon girls lol

uh.. Zero suit is technically an anime girl.. why wouldn't she be drawn in anime style? shes made by a Japanese person for a japanese game and japanese games are drawn with anime style characterless

well uh.. you do you... lol.. the large beatiful eyes, cute noses and lips or no lips gets me everytime, its just too hot...


i know its not all about fapping, sure, BUT you know you're truly attracted to a girl when you fap to her, and im always beating my meat to anime girls lol
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uh.. Zero suit is technically an anime girl.. why wouldn't she be drawn in anime style? shes made by a Japanese person for a japanese game and japanese games are drawn with anime style characterless
She's a videogame character not an anime character . I prefer how she looks in the games with a nose and lips and a more serious look.

Like she is the most appealing like this


and not appealing with an anime look like this.


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Young Justice is also better than Naruto, Bleach and Avatar.


idk, I'm watching it right now (shortly before the end of season 1) and it certainly is fun but it's kind of a clusterfuck/DC wank with a million billion characters from the DC verse appearing in every episode and most of them don't get properly fleshed out or explained and unless you are already a DC expert or look up each of them 95% of them will just seem like cardboard villains/heroes. It also kinda suffers from being way too episodic most of the time, no matter how impressive or urgent or large-scale a threat feels it is always resolved by the end of the episode. Avatar and Naruto (minus the fillers) are still way better imo, with more complexity and worldbuilding and amore gripping main plot. YJ is on par in terms of character development for the main cast and stuff, and personally I find it quite entertaining to see a slideshow of basically every DC character ever including 90% I never heard of before, but it is underwhelming in a bunch of very relevant aspects in which at least Naruto and Avatar are vastly superior. Everything outside the main characters just feels rushed and like it's not getting as much screentime as it needs to be relevant/interesting. The influx of large scale threats in basically every episode makes it hard to take serious at times and I wish there was more episodes dedicated to just slice of life stuff or smaller threats so it feels more realistic and less over the top.

I'm sure it's a better experience if you are already very, very familiar with the DC verse but I'm somewhat familiar with it and it's still pretty overwhelming and I just blend out all the random villains because I can't keep up with all the names and they disappear at the end of the episode every time anyway. I just don't think a show that so heavily relies on a strong familiarity with the whole DC verse is that good from a neutral perspective. If you're a dedicated DC fanboy it's probably an awesome treat, but there are no barriers that prevent anyone from enjoying stuff like Avatar or Naruto and that alone makes them more worthwile for everyone who isn't a hardcore DC fan already.
I probably regret this post by now.
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She's a videogame character not an anime character . I prefer how she looks in the games with a nose and lips and a more serious look.

Like she is the most appealing like this


and not appealing with an anime look like this.




ok and guess what? when japanese video games get turned into anime, theyre drawn in anime style, as samus would be if metroid were to ever get an anime

when you look at fanart of a 3d japanese game the characters are almost always going to be drawn in anime style cause thats how japaense people drawn cartoon characters

samus is not immune from this, same goes with princess peach and other nintendo girls
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