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SubscriberSun said: Also I'm glad they lampshaded it but, no way does his phone still work. I was a bit unsure of this too but, how long can a non-smartphone battery last if the phone itself was turned off the entire time? That's how it was explained in the LN anyway. |
Judgment526 said: SubscriberSun said: Also I'm glad they lampshaded it but, no way does his phone still work. I was a bit unsure of this too but, how long can a non-smartphone battery last if the phone itself was turned off the entire time? That's how it was explained in the LN anyway. That is a fair explanation I had not considered |
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Judgment526 said: opiktea said: Subaru is extremely desperate, but nobody gave a fuck.... Those bunch of candidate girl's that barely in puberty was unendingly deceptive, subaru is stumbling upon one sociopath into another, i'm confused how the hell they are capable to behave like that... well, not that it matters. But my question is, did the dragon pendant ever thought about the good of the people by nominating those bunch of lass? no... it seems to me that fantasy world is a fucked up place... good bye disney... You know, your comment makes you sound like a sheltered 12-year-old. Do you know how the world actually works? Priscilla aside (she is no doubt eccentric, but she operates on completely different standards than the norm), the other two candidates all behaved quite rationally and logically. Think about it, Subaru asks Crusch, a political opponent for a small military force to thwart an attack that he has no way of proving will even take place. Unless Crusch is to believe Subaru has prophetic powers, why would she agree to help him? Would you believe a seeming madman who tells you that the Apocalypse is imminent? Didn't think so. As for Anastasia, she's a merchant behaving like a merchant. Need I say more? Whoa...... we got a smartass over here. So, you think it is within a realm of norm that some 12-16 years old chick to behave deceptive and cautious without being themself, a kid? C'mon, this is no lord of the flies, look at GOT for example what can a psychopathic 12-16 years old to achieve in his reign as a king? Madness and stupidity. But alright, let's just assume that those girls were as briliant as you percieve. If those girl are perfectly capable to rule as a queen? or priestess? What would they bring to the queendom? As the matter of fact, their behavior is truly unhealthy. Let alone small people, political opponent would be neutralized without being considered as a possible collaborator by mutual interest.... |
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| HEY EVERYONE, I am not essay-kun but I thought I would post my analysis of Arc 3 I think this would benefit people who didn't understand/ like arc 3 so here's my analysis of it, oh and feel free to ask questions or give reasons why you disagree with me without further ado... let’s get started -Start of Arc three, we have Subaru acting possessive towards Emilia, well obviously he’s in love with her (I’ll make a separate comment to explain why he’s in love with Emilia). Multiple times in the beginning of the third arc, Emilia explicitly tells Subaru not to interfere going as far to make a promise about it (that just how serious she was about the throne). Emilia begins to distance herself slightly from Subaru so she could focus on being a royal candidate. However, after being attacked twice in a month, Subaru has become slightly paranoid. So he feels the need to be by her side because so far Subaru has made a good meat shield for her (jokes). In his mind, she is more likely to be in danger since she’s going to announce her candicy for the throne. (Side Note) -Unknown to most people, he uses her kindness as a coping mechanism to help overcome the stress and trauma from repeatedly feeling death. (think about how many times he says he refreshed by Emilia) the fact that Subaru has to face death to restart, that he has memories of time lines where he experiences blood curling pain, different personas of characters and events. Is a well explored concept of Re:zero, coupled with the fact he's the only one who will ever know about it is genius. Subaru can't share his experiences, so they have to be bottled up inside while he finds other ways to deal with his traumatic experiences (Emilia as an emotional support). (Side Note End) -As we all know one of Subaru main goals is to protect and serve Emelia, its partially the reason he goes on living. The knights or more specifically Julius, said that Subaru can't protect / be of use to her because he's weak (provoking him). They are mostly right he is weak. However, if he admits there right, he would have to depart from Emelia who is currently his sole emotional support keeping him sane. Not to mention that Subaru feels the knights are being unfair because he has already sacrificed a lot for Emelia. -Later Subaru and Emilia fight. Emilia complains about why Subaru is so interested in her that he would push himself (he can't mention he owes her a debt, because it didn't happen in that timeline). See Subaru thought that Emilia would always understand him because in the lap scene he didn't have to explain himself but Emilia still comforted him, so he developed a false image in his head (as stated by Emilia). Subaru is shocked by Emilia undermining his importance. So in an effort to be understood and accepted by Emilia he shouted his achievements, this if course had the opposite effect. And Subaru lost Emilia his emotional support so he became unstable. later you have multiple characters dismiss him as useless. Examples include: -Julius who said he can’t protect Emilia - Reinhart, who said the duel was meaningless (although unintentionally this suggests that the result was determined to begin with and that Subaru can’t beat an actual knight) -Crutch’s servant (I forget his name) said going to help Emilia would change nothing -This causes him to feel that he was incapable of defending Emilia one of his primary reasons for living to cope, he stopped listening to their advice and overplayed his achievements (see him complementing himself) and developed a arrogance that he could solve any problem as long as he used return by death. To prove he is useful he wished for tragedy to befall Emilia (see him smile at her in trouble) so that he could save her and repair the relationship and prove himself capable to everyone else. However, when it actually happens and all the people he saved are dead. The guilt of wishing this to happen eat him up inside (he says he didn't want this in ep 15) combined with feeling of uselessness (since all lives he said were lost without him being able to do anything). Causing him to go into a vegetable state (he loses the will to live, feels he can't really change anything so absorbs himself in self-pity) -Moreover, we have the new villain, that later also suggest that Subaru was not Insane but instead just trying to avoid reality because reality was inflicting pain on him. He then went on to totally provoke Subaru by killing and torturing Rem, which awakened him from his self-defeat because his desire for revenge was stronger. In summary ep 15 did two developments: - this is the first time in series Subaru truly gives up (loses the will to live), in contrast to ep 7 where he's suffering from anxiety and is just afraid to face the sisters, but still wanted to resolve the misunderstanding they had about him, so overall it shows the toll that Return by death is having on him - This is also, the first time Subaru has showed a desire to kill someone and considering the high morales he showed in arc 2 (the children scene) he's not even doing this out of justice but revenge, showing that Subaru has a limit to his morales and that he is not your standard goody two shoes character The series is subtle so you have to play close attention...bye for now P.S. I will also make A separate comment on episode 16 when I have the time. This whole comment is an edited version of my original comments on snobs Re:zero ep 15 chibi’s reaction |
Rehls said: opiktea said: Whoa...... we got a smartass over here. So, you think it is within a realm of norm that some 12-16 years old chick to behave deceptive and cautious without being themself, a kid? C'mon, this is no lord of the flies, look at GOT for example what can a psychopathic 12-16 years old to achieve in his reign as a king? Madness and stupidity. But alright, let's just assume that those girls were as briliant as you percieve. If those girl are perfectly capable to rule as a queen? or priestess? What would they bring to the queendom? As the matter of fact, their behavior is truly unhealthy. Let alone small people, political opponent would be neutralized without being considered as a possible collaborator by mutual interest.... She's over 20 years old. She's small, 5'1. Now that just destroyed my argument just like my ass.... |
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opiktea said: Judgment526 said: You know, your comment makes you sound like a sheltered 12-year-old. Do you know how the world actually works? Priscilla aside (she is no doubt eccentric, but she operates on completely different standards than the norm), the other two candidates all behaved quite rationally and logically. Think about it, Subaru asks Crusch, a political opponent for a small military force to thwart an attack that he has no way of proving will even take place. Unless Crusch is to believe Subaru has prophetic powers, why would she agree to help him? Would you believe a seeming madman who tells you that the Apocalypse is imminent? Didn't think so. As for Anastasia, she's a merchant behaving like a merchant. Need I say more? Whoa...... we got a smartass over here. So, you think it is within a realm of norm that some 12-16 years old chick to behave deceptive and cautious without being themself, a kid? C'mon, this is no lord of the flies, look at GOT for example what can a psychopathic 12-16 years old to achieve in his reign as a king? Madness and stupidity. But alright, let's just assume that those girls were as briliant as you percieve. If those girl are perfectly capable to rule as a queen? or priestess? What would they bring to the queendom? As the matter of fact, their behavior is truly unhealthy. Let alone small people, political opponent would be neutralized without being considered as a possible collaborator by mutual interest.... I should begin by saying that Priscilla is 19, Crusch is 20, and Anastasia is 22. They are all very much adults, especially when you consider that the life expectancy in their era would have been shorter than in modern times and people would have been expected to mature at a much faster rate. Don't even try to make comparisons with people like Joffrey in GoT because we all know he was a momma' boy and Cersei was really the one pulling all the strings while he was acting like the spoiled brat that he was. In stark contrast, Crusch inherited leadership of her household at a young age and acts the part without being overly dependent on her advisors as shown when she abruptly stops Felix when he attempts to chastise Subaru for his impunity. She lent Subaru her ears, weighed her options, decided that there wasn't sufficient evidence or reason to act on, and turned him down. That's what good leadership entails: being respectful and sympathetic while looking at the big picture and not letting one's emotions cloud their judgment. Anastasia, on the other hand, shows cunning and forethought in how she set up and carried out her and Subaru's negotiation. She planted the whole tavern with her own people beforehand and unbeknownst to Subaru, I think less to ensure her own safety and more to create an atmosphere whereby Subaru would feel less on guard with what he spoke about, and in the end it worked out exactly as she had anticipated. Plus, the way she baited information out of him while making it all seem like a casual conversation shows just how formidable she is at the negotiation table, and the potential she holds in a diplomatic situation. And even after playing Subaru like a fiddle, she upholds her end of the bargain, and grants him a dragon cart. As for Priscilla, I'll be honest and say she is one of my least favorites out of the candidates so far, but she does display a strong, unyielding nature and ruthlessness. She is definitely very self-centered and obnoxious, but she has been shown to be quite perceptive as well, as she has seen through Subaru's facade multiple times, in this encounter and their first. |
HucklePeel said: HEY EVERYONE, I am not essay-kun but I thought I would post my analysis of Arc 3 I think this would benefit people who didn't understand/ like arc 3 so here's my analysis of it, oh and feel free to ask questions or give reasons why you disagree with me without further ado... let’s get started -Start of Arc three, we have Subaru acting possessive towards Emilia, well obviously he’s in love with her (I’ll make a separate comment to explain why he’s in love with Emilia). Multiple times in the beginning of the third arc, Emilia explicitly tells Subaru not to interfere going as far to make a promise about it (that just how serious she was about the throne). Emilia begins to distance herself slightly from Subaru so she could focus on being a royal candidate. However, after being attacked twice in a month, Subaru has become slightly paranoid. So he feels the need to be by her side because so far Subaru has made a good meat shield for her (jokes). In his mind, she is more likely to be in danger since she’s going to announce her candicy for the throne. (Side Note) -Unknown to most people, he uses her kindness as a coping mechanism to help overcome the stress and trauma from repeatedly feeling death. (think about how many times he says he refreshed by Emilia) the fact that Subaru has to face death to restart, that he has memories of time lines where he experiences blood curling pain, different personas of characters and events. Is a well explored concept of Re:zero, coupled with the fact he's the only one who will ever know about it is genius. Subaru can't share his experiences, so they have to be bottled up inside while he finds other ways to deal with his traumatic experiences (Emilia as an emotional support). (Side Note End) -As we all know one of Subaru main goals is to protect and serve Emelia, its partially the reason he goes on living. The knights or more specifically Julius, said that Subaru can't protect / be of use to her because he's weak (provoking him). They are mostly right he is weak. However, if he admits there right, he would have to depart from Emelia who is currently his sole emotional support keeping him sane. Not to mention that Subaru feels the knights are being unfair because he has already sacrificed a lot for Emelia. -Later Subaru and Emilia fight. Emilia complains about why Subaru is so interested in her that he would push himself (he can't mention he owes her a debt, because it didn't happen in that timeline). See Subaru thought that Emilia would always understand him because in the lap scene he didn't have to explain himself but Emilia still comforted him, so he developed a false image in his head (as stated by Emilia). Subaru is shocked by Emilia undermining his importance. So in an effort to be understood and accepted by Emilia he shouted his achievements, this if course had the opposite effect. And Subaru lost Emilia his emotional support so he became unstable. later you have multiple characters dismiss him as useless. Examples include: -Julius who said he can’t protect Emilia - Reinhart, who said the duel was meaningless (although unintentionally this suggests that the result was determined to begin with and that Subaru can’t beat an actual knight) -Crutch’s servant (I forget his name) said going to help Emilia would change nothing -This causes him to feel that he was incapable of defending Emilia one of his primary reasons for living to cope, he stopped listening to their advice and overplayed his achievements (see him complementing himself) and developed a arrogance that he could solve any problem as long as he used return by death. To prove he is useful he wished for tragedy to befall Emilia (see him smile at her in trouble) so that he could save her and repair the relationship and prove himself capable to everyone else. However, when it actually happens and all the people he saved are dead. The guilt of wishing this to happen eat him up inside (he says he didn't want this in ep 15) combined with feeling of uselessness (since all lives he said were lost without him being able to do anything). Causing him to go into a vegetable state (he loses the will to live, feels he can't really change anything so absorbs himself in self-pity) -Moreover, we have the new villain, that later also suggest that Subaru was not Insane but instead just trying to avoid reality because reality was inflicting pain on him. He then went on to totally provoke Subaru by killing and torturing Rem, which awakened him from his self-defeat because his desire for revenge was stronger. In summary ep 15 did two developments: - this is the first time in series Subaru truly gives up (loses the will to live), in contrast to ep 7 where he's suffering from anxiety and is just afraid to face the sisters, but still wanted to resolve the misunderstanding they had about him, so overall it shows the toll that Return by death is having on him - This is also, the first time Subaru has showed a desire to kill someone and considering the high morales he showed in arc 2 (the children scene) he's not even doing this out of justice but revenge, showing that Subaru has a limit to his morales and that he is not your standard goody two shoes character The series is subtle so you have to play close attention...bye for now P.S. I will also make A separate comment on episode 16 when I have the time. This whole comment is an edited version of my original comments on snobs Re:zero ep 15 chibi’s reaction Great analysis and a solid +1 from me. One thing I'd like to add is that Subaru desire to get entitled and recognized for his effort doesn't just appeared abruptly in Arc 3. His trait which seems to be OOC are actually foreshadowed as early in episode 1 in Arc 1. Remember the scene in episode 1 when Subaru commenting that she was wasting her own life when she helped Subaru and even came out with a lame excuse to not make him felt indebted? This is a subtle hints of his viewpoint that people should get rewarded for their deeds, and that of course includes himself. He even stated his viewpoint explicitly in episode 6 in Arc 2 where he stated that the self-sacrificing blue ogre is stupid and he is the type to want his effort be rewarded. From this, it is easy to see that Subaru is indeed hungry for praise and entitlement for his efforts and sacrifices which is virtually gone from people's memory due to Return by Death. The foreshadowing is rather easy to be dismissed due to the seemly selfless actions Subaru did in the later half of Arc 2, making us to think that he is just a typical LN lead falling into the selfless LN lead trope who does good things because he is kind/selfless. |
NitroKageAkiJul 20, 2016 2:47 AM
NitroKageAki said: HucklePeel said: HEY EVERYONE, I am not essay-kun but I thought I would post my analysis of Arc 3 I think this would benefit people who didn't understand/ like arc 3 so here's my analysis of it, oh and feel free to ask questions or give reasons why you disagree with me without further ado... let’s get started -Start of Arc three, we have Subaru acting possessive towards Emilia, well obviously he’s in love with her (I’ll make a separate comment to explain why he’s in love with Emilia). Multiple times in the beginning of the third arc, Emilia explicitly tells Subaru not to interfere going as far to make a promise about it (that just how serious she was about the throne). Emilia begins to distance herself slightly from Subaru so she could focus on being a royal candidate. However, after being attacked twice in a month, Subaru has become slightly paranoid. So he feels the need to be by her side because so far Subaru has made a good meat shield for her (jokes). In his mind, she is more likely to be in danger since she’s going to announce her candicy for the throne. (Side Note) -Unknown to most people, he uses her kindness as a coping mechanism to help overcome the stress and trauma from repeatedly feeling death. (think about how many times he says he refreshed by Emilia) the fact that Subaru has to face death to restart, that he has memories of time lines where he experiences blood curling pain, different personas of characters and events. Is a well explored concept of Re:zero, coupled with the fact he's the only one who will ever know about it is genius. Subaru can't share his experiences, so they have to be bottled up inside while he finds other ways to deal with his traumatic experiences (Emilia as an emotional support). (Side Note End) -As we all know one of Subaru main goals is to protect and serve Emelia, its partially the reason he goes on living. The knights or more specifically Julius, said that Subaru can't protect / be of use to her because he's weak (provoking him). They are mostly right he is weak. However, if he admits there right, he would have to depart from Emelia who is currently his sole emotional support keeping him sane. Not to mention that Subaru feels the knights are being unfair because he has already sacrificed a lot for Emelia. -Later Subaru and Emilia fight. Emilia complains about why Subaru is so interested in her that he would push himself (he can't mention he owes her a debt, because it didn't happen in that timeline). See Subaru thought that Emilia would always understand him because in the lap scene he didn't have to explain himself but Emilia still comforted him, so he developed a false image in his head (as stated by Emilia). Subaru is shocked by Emilia undermining his importance. So in an effort to be understood and accepted by Emilia he shouted his achievements, this if course had the opposite effect. And Subaru lost Emilia his emotional support so he became unstable. later you have multiple characters dismiss him as useless. Examples include: -Julius who said he can’t protect Emilia - Reinhart, who said the duel was meaningless (although unintentionally this suggests that the result was determined to begin with and that Subaru can’t beat an actual knight) -Crutch’s servant (I forget his name) said going to help Emilia would change nothing -This causes him to feel that he was incapable of defending Emilia one of his primary reasons for living to cope, he stopped listening to their advice and overplayed his achievements (see him complementing himself) and developed a arrogance that he could solve any problem as long as he used return by death. To prove he is useful he wished for tragedy to befall Emilia (see him smile at her in trouble) so that he could save her and repair the relationship and prove himself capable to everyone else. However, when it actually happens and all the people he saved are dead. The guilt of wishing this to happen eat him up inside (he says he didn't want this in ep 15) combined with feeling of uselessness (since all lives he said were lost without him being able to do anything). Causing him to go into a vegetable state (he loses the will to live, feels he can't really change anything so absorbs himself in self-pity) -Moreover, we have the new villain, that later also suggest that Subaru was not Insane but instead just trying to avoid reality because reality was inflicting pain on him. He then went on to totally provoke Subaru by killing and torturing Rem, which awakened him from his self-defeat because his desire for revenge was stronger. In summary ep 15 did two developments: - this is the first time in series Subaru truly gives up (loses the will to live), in contrast to ep 7 where he's suffering from anxiety and is just afraid to face the sisters, but still wanted to resolve the misunderstanding they had about him, so overall it shows the toll that Return by death is having on him - This is also, the first time Subaru has showed a desire to kill someone and considering the high morales he showed in arc 2 (the children scene) he's not even doing this out of justice but revenge, showing that Subaru has a limit to his morales and that he is not your standard goody two shoes character The series is subtle so you have to play close attention...bye for now P.S. I will also make A separate comment on episode 16 when I have the time. This whole comment is an edited version of my original comments on snobs Re:zero ep 15 chibi’s reaction Great analysis and a solid +1 from me. One thing I'd like to add is that Subaru desire to get entitled and recognized for his effort doesn't just appeared abruptly in Arc 3. His trait which seems to be OOC are actually foreshadowed as early in episode 1 in Arc 1. Remember the scene in episode 1 when Subaru commenting that she was wasting her own life when she helped Subaru and even came out with a lame excuse to not make him felt indebted? This is a subtle hints of his viewpoint that people should get rewarded for their deeds, and that of course includes himself. He even stated his viewpoint explicitly in episode 6 in Arc 2 where he stated that the self-sacrificing blue ogre is stupid and he is the type to want his effort be rewarded. From this, it is easy to see that Subaru is indeed hungry for praise and entitlement for his efforts and sacrifices which is virtually gone from people's memory due to Return by Death. The foreshadowing is rather easy to be dismissed due to the seemly selfless actions Subaru did in the later half of Arc 2, making us to think that he is just a typical LN lead falling into the selfless LN lead trope who does good things because he is kind/selfless. Well this is rare, someone on the internet agreeing with me...Excuse me while I savour this moment. Okay done, now onto your comment. I'm actually am surprised since I actually didn't notice those hints about Subaru's character...To be fair though they are so many that it's hard to keep track of them all. You seem to think that Subaru's character was already like that but in the beginning we just didn't get the chance to see his bad side. I would argue that due to his extreme situation his bad side was amplified. I mean after sacrificing yourself multiple times for a person you would at least want to be acknowledged for it...In Subaru's case he unfortunately won't ever truly be recognised for all he has done. It's kinda like expecting a thank you after you done someone a favour (again in Subaru's case he deserves a lot more than just a thank you but will settle for just getting respect and understanding in which he gets neither). Which leads up to the current events. It's said to think that there are not many of us out there actually looking for clues and hints for the story and instead just watching the series casually and I say this for both sides ( those who like the series and those who hate it). I'm just angrier at the haters because the turn around and act like the series hasn't tried to help them get the story and the characters (bothers the hell out of me). I mean I don't know is it the series fault for being subtle or is it the fault of those who watch it without critically thinking about it? |
HucklePeel said: NitroKageAki said: Great analysis and a solid +1 from me. One thing I'd like to add is that Subaru desire to get entitled and recognized for his effort doesn't just appeared abruptly in Arc 3. His trait which seems to be OOC are actually foreshadowed as early in episode 1 in Arc 1. Remember the scene in episode 1 when Subaru commenting that she was wasting her own life when she helped Subaru and even came out with a lame excuse to not make him felt indebted? This is a subtle hints of his viewpoint that people should get rewarded for their deeds, and that of course includes himself. He even stated his viewpoint explicitly in episode 6 in Arc 2 where he stated that the self-sacrificing blue ogre is stupid and he is the type to want his effort be rewarded. From this, it is easy to see that Subaru is indeed hungry for praise and entitlement for his efforts and sacrifices which is virtually gone from people's memory due to Return by Death. The foreshadowing is rather easy to be dismissed due to the seemly selfless actions Subaru did in the later half of Arc 2, making us to think that he is just a typical LN lead falling into the selfless LN lead trope who does good things because he is kind/selfless. Well this is rare, someone on the internet agreeing with me...Excuse me while I savour this moment. Okay done, now onto your comment. I'm actually am surprised since I actually didn't notice those hints about Subaru's character...To be fair though they are so many that it's hard to keep track of them all. You seem to think that Subaru's character was already like that but in the beginning we just didn't get the chance to see his bad side. I would argue that due to his extreme situation his bad side was amplified. I mean after sacrificing yourself multiple times for a person you would at least want to be acknowledged for it...In Subaru's case he unfortunately won't ever truly be recognised for all he has done. It's kinda like expecting a thank you after you done someone a favour (again in Subaru's case he deserves a lot more than just a thank you but will settle for just getting respect and understanding in which he gets neither). Which leads up to the current events. It's said to think that there are not many of us out there actually looking for clues and hints for the story and instead just watching the series casually and I say this for both sides ( those who like the series and those who hate it). I'm just angrier at the haters because the turn around and act like the series hasn't tried to help them get the story and the characters (bothers the hell out of me). I mean I don't know is it the series fault for being subtle or is it the fault of those who watch it without critically thinking about it? The show (and the LN/WN to some extent) plays the "show does not tell thing" and it is quite hard to blame the viewers for hating it since the show ventures to some uncharted territory for the Transport to the other World genre, like I mean how often you come across anime portraying a flawed lead? Especially with the Transport to the other World genre as it is typical for the protagonist to be OP, smart and has high EQ and people felt betrayed when Subaru is not what they think he is. And yeah, Subaru has his share of negative traits (paranoid, reckless, prideful) as well as the positive traits (brave, caring). He is portrayed as a multifaceted character with his goods and bads, not some cardboard cookie-cutter character and this is the reason I love this series so much. I found this post in Reddit and it describes perfectly how I thought him as a great character: Subaru has many good traits. It's just that this arc showed the flipside of those strengths He's optimistic, he's resilient, and he's caring and protective. Come this arc the optimism becomes naivety, resilience becomes stubbornness, and the protective side becomes possessive. All because he's powerless now. He's basically doing the same thing as before, but the circumstance made him worse off. The smoke trick at arc 2 shows resourcefulness and bravery, in the Julius fight it's desperation and recklessness. Same action, polar opposite outcomes. |
Well, i owe you an apology.... I'm sorry.... Much further about those girl, i simply dissagree. While you saw those chick as a capable politician, i on the other hand, can't help but saw them as common (fat and dirty old) diplomat: shrewd, deceptive, manipulative, and result-oriented. In feodal culture surely would not be common, a smart woman, much to patriach society. Granted, the contrast between beauty and politics might be the main attraction of this arc. However in RL, prolonged exposure towards such environment would certainly create a fisiological complexion, that in turn would naturaly make those seemingly evergreen beauty's existence become questionable by their appearence. The most outrageous for me was the fact that their political manuever was somewhat similar to our modern world, obviously with less corruption, collusion, and sweet nepotism. And much less aparent problem like prosperity, public health, mortality rate, and terorism. In this episode we saw that one or two of those candidate refused to believe in subaru's notice to a coming massacre in weight of the "bigger picture". You think this is a wise decision? without considering that village might have a strategic importance geoeconomicly? Possibly even could crippling their future queendom, because it is quite obvious that the cult itself has been considered as a public enemy.... |
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HucklePeel said: HEY EVERYONE, I am not essay-kun but I thought I would post my analysis of Arc 3 I think this would benefit people who didn't understand/ like arc 3 so here's my analysis of it, oh and feel free to ask questions or give reasons why you disagree with me without further ado... let’s get started -Start of Arc three, we have Subaru acting possessive towards Emilia, well obviously he’s in love with her (I’ll make a separate comment to explain why he’s in love with Emilia). Multiple times in the beginning of the third arc, Emilia explicitly tells Subaru not to interfere going as far to make a promise about it (that just how serious she was about the throne). Emilia begins to distance herself slightly from Subaru so she could focus on being a royal candidate. However, after being attacked twice in a month, Subaru has become slightly paranoid. So he feels the need to be by her side because so far Subaru has made a good meat shield for her (jokes). In his mind, she is more likely to be in danger since she’s going to announce her candicy for the throne. (Side Note) -Unknown to most people, he uses her kindness as a coping mechanism to help overcome the stress and trauma from repeatedly feeling death. (think about how many times he says he refreshed by Emilia) the fact that Subaru has to face death to restart, that he has memories of time lines where he experiences blood curling pain, different personas of characters and events. Is a well explored concept of Re:zero, coupled with the fact he's the only one who will ever know about it is genius. Subaru can't share his experiences, so they have to be bottled up inside while he finds other ways to deal with his traumatic experiences (Emilia as an emotional support). (Side Note End) -As we all know one of Subaru main goals is to protect and serve Emelia, its partially the reason he goes on living. The knights or more specifically Julius, said that Subaru can't protect / be of use to her because he's weak (provoking him). They are mostly right he is weak. However, if he admits there right, he would have to depart from Emelia who is currently his sole emotional support keeping him sane. Not to mention that Subaru feels the knights are being unfair because he has already sacrificed a lot for Emelia. -Later Subaru and Emilia fight. Emilia complains about why Subaru is so interested in her that he would push himself (he can't mention he owes her a debt, because it didn't happen in that timeline). See Subaru thought that Emilia would always understand him because in the lap scene he didn't have to explain himself but Emilia still comforted him, so he developed a false image in his head (as stated by Emilia). Subaru is shocked by Emilia undermining his importance. So in an effort to be understood and accepted by Emilia he shouted his achievements, this if course had the opposite effect. And Subaru lost Emilia his emotional support so he became unstable. later you have multiple characters dismiss him as useless. Examples include: -Julius who said he can’t protect Emilia - Reinhart, who said the duel was meaningless (although unintentionally this suggests that the result was determined to begin with and that Subaru can’t beat an actual knight) -Crutch’s servant (I forget his name) said going to help Emilia would change nothing -This causes him to feel that he was incapable of defending Emilia one of his primary reasons for living to cope, he stopped listening to their advice and overplayed his achievements (see him complementing himself) and developed a arrogance that he could solve any problem as long as he used return by death. To prove he is useful he wished for tragedy to befall Emilia (see him smile at her in trouble) so that he could save her and repair the relationship and prove himself capable to everyone else. However, when it actually happens and all the people he saved are dead. The guilt of wishing this to happen eat him up inside (he says he didn't want this in ep 15) combined with feeling of uselessness (since all lives he said were lost without him being able to do anything). Causing him to go into a vegetable state (he loses the will to live, feels he can't really change anything so absorbs himself in self-pity) -Moreover, we have the new villain, that later also suggest that Subaru was not Insane but instead just trying to avoid reality because reality was inflicting pain on him. He then went on to totally provoke Subaru by killing and torturing Rem, which awakened him from his self-defeat because his desire for revenge was stronger. In summary ep 15 did two developments: - this is the first time in series Subaru truly gives up (loses the will to live), in contrast to ep 7 where he's suffering from anxiety and is just afraid to face the sisters, but still wanted to resolve the misunderstanding they had about him, so overall it shows the toll that Return by death is having on him - This is also, the first time Subaru has showed a desire to kill someone and considering the high morales he showed in arc 2 (the children scene) he's not even doing this out of justice but revenge, showing that Subaru has a limit to his morales and that he is not your standard goody two shoes character The series is subtle so you have to play close attention...bye for now P.S. I will also make A separate comment on episode 16 when I have the time. This whole comment is an edited version of my original comments on snobs Re:zero ep 15 chibi’s reaction Wow another amazing post! |
| None of them will help for free because they want something in return and they think he is ignorant and greedy and wants everything for himself. But he is actually doing all that so he can help his friends. I didn't read the light novel but if the saving the village with carriage ting fails I think in the end I think he will ask Felt for help and she will accept. But I doubt that he would die again since he has already died like 3 times in a row and ending up going back to a point in time before the witch cult attack and that stuff happend. |
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best girl? she looks like an OLD HAG on topic: Anastasia is probably the best example of why I'm no longer associating myself to 3dpd. What basically Anastasia is saying is that if you want to be on her "good side" you have to be politically correct. I seriously HAVE ENOUGH of political correctness. just look at EU and Welcome Rapefugees among other things. Also Paris attacks (is it the 3rd time now?) Also Turkey coup attempt. Also Brexit aka they had enough of EU cuckery. *sigh* |
kidlat020Jul 20, 2016 6:36 AM
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
opiktea said: Well, i owe you an apology.... I'm sorry.... Much further about those girl, i simply dissagree. While you saw those chick as a capable politician, i on the other hand, can't help but saw them as common (fat and dirty old) diplomat: shrewd, deceptive, manipulative, and result-oriented. In feodal culture surely would not be common, a smart woman, much to patriach society. Granted, the contrast between beauty and politics might be the main attraction of this arc. However in RL, prolonged exposure towards such environment would certainly create a fisiological complexion, that in turn would naturaly make those seemingly evergreen beauty's existence become questionable by their appearence. The most outrageous for me was the fact that their political manuever was somewhat similar to our modern world, obviously with less corruption, collusion, and sweet nepotism. And much less aparent problem like prosperity, public health, mortality rate, and terorism. In this episode we saw that one or two of those candidate refused to believe in subaru's notice to a coming massacre in weight of the "bigger picture". You think this is a wise decision? without considering that village might have a strategic importance geoeconomicly? Possibly even could crippling their future queendom, because it is quite obvious that the cult itself has been considered as a public enemy.... Hey, no apology needed. I was a bit of an ass in my first response as well, so I'm sorry as well. I'm glad we can have a civil debate over this, unlike so many arguments on here that eventually become reduced to trading insults. :) I do see the points you are making though. It's especially hard for us the audience to "side with the candidates" here because unlike them, we've seen what Subaru has seen and we know what's at stake, so it's easy to see them as cold and calculating politicians when we know for a fact that their inaction will lead to disaster. In response to your last paragraph, I think it all boils down to the fact that Subaru simply doesn't seem trustworthy enough to Crusch for her to simply take his word for it. You have to consider that sending out a military force isn't a decision that can be made lightly. Even if you set aside the fact that Crusch has a reputation to uphold, the possibility that Subaru is lying, or worse, affiliated with the witch cult, is a possibility she cannot afford to ignore. If she acts with insufficient evidence, there may be serious repercussions. It's simply too risky, and Subaru showing nothing but rage does not help his case, which is why she ultimately rejects him. I do urge you to keep watching though. Two episodes later you may start seeing these candidates in a different light. |
Rehls said: opiktea said: Whoa...... we got a smartass over here. So, you think it is within a realm of norm that some 12-16 years old chick to behave deceptive and cautious without being themself, a kid? C'mon, this is no lord of the flies, look at GOT for example what can a psychopathic 12-16 years old to achieve in his reign as a king? Madness and stupidity. But alright, let's just assume that those girls were as briliant as you percieve. If those girl are perfectly capable to rule as a queen? or priestess? What would they bring to the queendom? As the matter of fact, their behavior is truly unhealthy. Let alone small people, political opponent would be neutralized without being considered as a possible collaborator by mutual interest.... She's over 20 years old. She's small, 5'1. Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 |
Omni_slash95 said: Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 That, and mercilessly they keep tryin to reminded us not to trust anime..... |
opikteaJul 20, 2016 7:39 AM
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FononZero said: Omni_slash95 said: Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 I don't think anyone will be happy about how the girls look in this show. kidlat020 doesn't think they look young enough, Omni_slash95 doesn't think they look old enough. xD @Omni_slash95 I think we have similar tastes in some ways... Despite my avatar, my favorite character is Elsa. But I'm sure that if everyone in the series looked like Elsa, there might(???) be some people wouldn't like it. I think it's just a matter of allowing everyone to find a character they like, more than anything. It doesn't hurt to have a little variety, even if you might not like certain designs. Taking Elsa's design alone into consideration, she is really seductive as she is mature but doesn't seem to be some kind of old hag. I don't like the way her cleavage is drawn though, what's the hell with that? The only real loli is Felt because she IS that young. I don't see why they see Crusch or Priscilla as a loli, do they even know what that mean? I mean, I totally understand and agree about Anastasia because her design's a little girl but the others? No way. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
FononZero said: Omni_slash95 said: Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 I don't think anyone will be happy about how the girls look in this show. kidlat020 doesn't think they look young enough, Omni_slash95 doesn't think they look old enough. xD @Omni_slash95 I think we have similar tastes in some ways... Despite my avatar, my favorite character is Elsa. But I'm sure that if everyone in the series looked like Elsa, there might(???) be some people wouldn't like it. I think it's just a matter of allowing everyone to find a character they like, more than anything. It doesn't hurt to have a little variety, even if you might not like certain designs. I liked Elsa too..I'm fine with variety but there are too many little girls who look like 12 even though they are supposed to be much older. Rem, Emilia and Anastasia especially. |
Dude, you're awesome. Yes, the problem for understanding the side characters always came from the limited perspective of the naration. sad thing but not the one we can complain about. Well thankfully, i just barely understand about why the lugnican society is ridiculing subaru for what he did. The consequence is his littered reputation has recieved more of unwanted condemnation. With his wounded image, it is inevitable for him to be somewhat appears untrustable and reckless. Yet, to me crusch response of proclaiming "never been decieved" to be rather unwise and childish of her. I remain unconvinced of her to be acclaimed as an extraordinary leader. Well, she's not helping alright, but not even investigate? She's about to rule this piece of land seriously? As for anastasia, her way to exert info was ineficient and waste of resource... i mean, she just feed a whole batalion of army to make subaru talk? Making a 3 years old acting like a 3 years old and seducing subaru? Eatin burger and shit, I mean.... what the... *cough* child exploitation *cough*.... i apologize this paragraph is obviously unreasonable, damn i hate that kid... em, technicly she's not a kid so.... Thanks for the advice, but beware that one land dragon won't be enough to convince me of what good you saw on her..... |
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| @FononZero Agreed and more Elsa wouldn't hurt either. |
opiktea said: Dude, you're awesome. Yes, the problem for understanding the side characters always came from the limited perspective of the naration. sad thing but not the one we can complain about. Well thankfully, i just barely understand about why the lugnican society is ridiculing subaru for what he did. The consequence is his littered reputation has recieved more of unwanted condemnation. With his wounded image, it is inevitable for him to be somewhat appears untrustable and reckless. Yet, to me crusch response of proclaiming "never been decieved" to be rather unwise and childish of her. I remain unconvinced of her to be acclaimed as an extraordinary leader. Well, she's not helping alright, but not even investigate? She's about to rule this piece of land seriously? As for anastasia, her way to exert info was ineficient and waste of resource... i mean, she just feed a whole batalion of army to make subaru talk? Making a 3 years old acting like a 3 years old and seducing subaru? Eatin burger and shit, I mean.... what the... *cough* child exploitation *cough*.... i apologize this paragraph is obviously unreasonable, damn i hate that kid... em, technicly she's not a kid so.... Thanks for the advice, but beware that one land dragon won't be enough to convince me of what good you saw on her..... Well, in Crusch's defense, there is an as yet unexplained reason why she's so confident in her ability to see through lies that I won't spoil for you here. As for Anastasia, she's the kind of character that you either love or hate, so I won't force my opinion on you. For the record, I didn't like her character at introduction either, but I actually thought she was pretty badass in this scene. Plus, viewing things objectively, while somewhat condescending in her mannerism, she wasn't completely hostile to Subaru either, and actually taught him a pretty valuable lesson too, though understandably, it is pretty hard to laugh at that entire scene if you place yourself in Subaru's shoes. Again, keep watching though, and your opinion of the characters may change. If watching GoT has taught me anything, it's that our opinions of characters can change drastically once we know more about them and their circumstances. |
| Just for the record, my definition of "old hag" is whenever wrinkles start appearing which is usually 16-17. I really have that much bias in 3dpd realm, seeing they grow up into cunts very fast. I don't care if you guys call me a pedo, it's far better to save them from growing up into sluts. Someone mentioned in this thread that the characters are starting to act like a trope more than anything else. Maybe the author lost so many variety that he had to make Anastasia look a loli and Felix a trap in cat costume. they looked like that for the sake of... fanservice? As for Elsa, remove her seductive behavior and she's left with literally nothing. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
Judgment526 said: opiktea said: Dude, you're awesome. Yes, the problem for understanding the side characters always came from the limited perspective of the naration. sad thing but not the one we can complain about. Well thankfully, i just barely understand about why the lugnican society is ridiculing subaru for what he did. The consequence is his littered reputation has recieved more of unwanted condemnation. With his wounded image, it is inevitable for him to be somewhat appears untrustable and reckless. Yet, to me crusch response of proclaiming "never been decieved" to be rather unwise and childish of her. I remain unconvinced of her to be acclaimed as an extraordinary leader. Well, she's not helping alright, but not even investigate? She's about to rule this piece of land seriously? As for anastasia, her way to exert info was ineficient and waste of resource... i mean, she just feed a whole batalion of army to make subaru talk? Making a 3 years old acting like a 3 years old and seducing subaru? Eatin burger and shit, I mean.... what the... *cough* child exploitation *cough*.... i apologize this paragraph is obviously unreasonable, damn i hate that kid... em, technicly she's not a kid so.... Thanks for the advice, but beware that one land dragon won't be enough to convince me of what good you saw on her..... Well, in Crusch's defense, there is an as yet unexplained reason why she's so confident in her ability to see through lies that I won't spoil for you here. As for Anastasia, she's the kind of character that you either love or hate, so I won't force my opinion on you. For the record, I didn't like her character at introduction either, but I actually thought she was pretty badass in this scene. Plus, viewing things objectively, while somewhat condescending in her mannerism, she wasn't completely hostile to Subaru either, and actually taught him a pretty valuable lesson too, though understandably, it is pretty hard to laugh at that entire scene if you place yourself in Subaru's shoes. Again, keep watching though, and your opinion of the characters may change. If watching GoT has taught me anything, it's that our opinions of characters can change drastically once we know more about them and their circumstances. Well, you misunderstand something, i did not hate the northern eskimo kid, i disslike the 3 years old kid... god i hate her.... not completely hostile? Well it's never a wise thing to insult a person. In this case, clearly, she did not respect subaru in a same standing for reason. Well, i'm a fan of this show, i'll watch this till the end... As expected, we learn a different thing from one particular medium. While it's too early to judge a person for what they did in present, every person will face a consequence for everything they have done, while a person can change, their sin will forever haunt them... |
opikteaJul 20, 2016 10:38 AM
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kidlat020 said: Someone mentioned in this thread that the characters are starting to act like a trope more than anything else. Maybe the author lost so many variety that he had to make Anastasia look a loli and Felix a trap in cat costume. they looked like that for the sake of... fanservice? For Felix that's a trap. He's a man. Reason is probably because authors like to include female cats (yes, I'm looking at you Hanekawa). The anime even gave Horie Yui as the voice actor to bait people into believing he was a girl. Even Subaru was trolled. About the tropes, what do you mean exactly? Well... just because he likes deconstructing them doesn't mean he can't use one or two trope or cliché in his story. Because by following this train of thought, no one would ever write a story. I mean, your story has already been written thousands of times already. It's the way you handle it that sets it apart from the others. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
opiktea said: Judgment526 said: Well, in Crusch's defense, there is an as yet unexplained reason why she's so confident in her ability to see through lies that I won't spoil for you here. As for Anastasia, she's the kind of character that you either love or hate, so I won't force my opinion on you. For the record, I didn't like her character at introduction either, but I actually thought she was pretty badass in this scene. Plus, viewing things objectively, while somewhat condescending in her mannerism, she wasn't completely hostile to Subaru either, and actually taught him a pretty valuable lesson too, though understandably, it is pretty hard to laugh at that entire scene if you place yourself in Subaru's shoes. Again, keep watching though, and your opinion of the characters may change. If watching GoT has taught me anything, it's that our opinions of characters can change drastically once we know more about them and their circumstances. Well, you misunderstand something, i did not hate the northern eskimo kid, i disslike the 3 years old kid... god i hate her.... not completely hostile? Well it's never a wise thing to insult a person. In this case, clearly, she did not respect subaru in a same standing for reason. Well, i'm a fan of this show, i'll watch this till the end... As expected, we learn a different thing from one particular medium. While it's too early to judge a person for what they did in present, every person will face a consequence for everything they have done, while a person can change, their sin will forever haunt them... What? You hate Mimi!? But...she's so adorable though... Seriously though, her role there wasn't seduction or even to be cute. She was there as Anastasia's personal guard, because appearances aside, and in her own words, she's super strong. :P |
Tony_SansNom said: kidlat020 said: Someone mentioned in this thread that the characters are starting to act like a trope more than anything else. Maybe the author lost so many variety that he had to make Anastasia look a loli and Felix a trap in cat costume. they looked like that for the sake of... fanservice? For Felix that's a trap. He's a man. Reason is probably because authors like to include female cats (yes, I'm looking at you Hanekawa). The anime even gave Horie Yui as the voice actor to bait people into believing he was a girl. Even Subaru was trolled. About the tropes, what do you mean exactly? Well... just because he likes deconstructing them doesn't mean he can't use one or two trope or cliché in his story. Because by following this train of thought, no one would ever write a story. I mean, your story has already been written thousands of times already. It's the way you handle it that sets it apart from the others. I'd rather call it as running out of material, character trait wise at least. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
davinci12 said: Good thing subaru can just kill himself and try again lol really looking forward to in the (Maybe far future) when Emillia and who ever else realize what he's been going through. Should be emotionally packed. implying emilia care enough for him, she didn't asked it anyway, be it tragedy or not. someone not just cry for help, except they want it, then again, subaru is not the one emilia should ask for help. |
| 期待しているよ、私のサリアだって、嘘ばっかり! でもねアンジュ、あんたがいなくなれば、私の方が強いってわかれば, それができるなら、何もいらない! |
kidlat020 said: Tony_SansNom said: For Felix that's a trap. He's a man. Reason is probably because authors like to include female cats (yes, I'm looking at you Hanekawa). The anime even gave Horie Yui as the voice actor to bait people into believing he was a girl. Even Subaru was trolled. About the tropes, what do you mean exactly? Well... just because he likes deconstructing them doesn't mean he can't use one or two trope or cliché in his story. Because by following this train of thought, no one would ever write a story. I mean, your story has already been written thousands of times already. It's the way you handle it that sets it apart from the others. I'd rather call it as running out of material, character trait wise at least. it's already 16 episode, and people still call this fanservice/lack of material? (this intent others, you are just example) look at this CUTIES     FOR GOD SAKE THEY ARE MALES! rather than complaining about TRAP in Anime why don't you just compain about TRAP TRAP TRAP TRAP in these MALE CATS!! Well...  |
Judgment526 said: I was a bit unsure of this too but, how long can a non-smartphone battery last if the phone itself was turned off the entire time? That's how it was explained in the LN anyway. Some old flip phones could last to up to two weeks without charging. |
| Subaru keeps acting dumber and dumber... but I cannot say it could be expected to be smarter at his age...to people that read the manga, is it ever revealed why he has that power and the power's connection to the witch? I do not want to know why just if this questions get answered eventually. |
| I feel like this show follows the same formula of have all these terrible things happen to Subaru, but the last episode of this 'Return by Death' arc will have him solve every problem by using everything he's learned. So even though Subaru acts really dumb over and over again, I think it'll all work out because of his power. |
| I still fucking hate Subaru |
Omni_slash95 said: Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 The artstyle makes them look cuter, yeah. But some women in our world have faces cuter than most. She's one of those. And with enough make up: |
Rehls said: Omni_slash95 said: Doesn't look that way just like all the other female characters of this series. Seems like the author has a fetish for loli's to me and makes over 20 years old girls look like 12 The artstyle makes them look cuter, yeah. But some women in our world have faces cuter than most. She's one of those. And with enough make up: The artstyle is one of the series weak points. Its forced cute and I hate that in anime & in real life. Prefer more mature or at least normal looking characters. |
Omni_slash95 said: Rehls said: The artstyle makes them look cuter, yeah. But some women in our world have faces cuter than most. She's one of those. And with enough make up: The artstyle is one of the series weak points. Its forced cute and I hate that in anime & in real life. Prefer more mature or at least normal looking characters. ... In your opinion. But he artstyle seems to fit asian people's facial features... If you notice the cheeks, for example. And in real life we've this, with enough make up: |
Rehls said: Omni_slash95 said: The artstyle is one of the series weak points. Its forced cute and I hate that in anime & in real life. Prefer more mature or at least normal looking characters. ... In your opinion. But he artstyle seems to fit asian people's facial features... If you notice the cheeks, for example. And in real life we've this, with enough make up: Of course its my opinion, never said otherwise. Don't care if it fits asian people's facial features in some ways, I'm pretty sure most of them look normal. It looks unnatural, just like the bland moe girls in K-ON. Girl in the pic loves awful, exactly what I'm talking about. |
Omni_slash95 said: Girl in the pic loves awful, exactly what I'm talking about. Just because she hasn't really been introduced properly yet, or because you don't understand her, it doesn't mean she is "awful" (if you're talking about Emillia). |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
Tony_SansNom said: Omni_slash95 said: Girl in the pic loves awful, exactly what I'm talking about. Just because she hasn't really been introduced properly yet, or because you don't understand her, it doesn't mean she is "awful" (if you're talking about Emillia). I'm pretty sure he's referring to the cosplayer's appearance... I think she's fucking cute though. |
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