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What are you talking about OP? Look at all these bearded men (and cyborg):

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Plus this ladykiller (bonus:redhead):
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Yeah I agree they should make more anime about me
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Beards have the power to make badass characters even more awesome. So they can't just give them to everyone.

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Ha I was gonna recommend [url=myanimelist.net/character/16021/Rider/pictures]this[/url] character.
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Apr 4, 2016 11:41 AM

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I feel like half of the posts have forgotten about the "attractive" aspect of all this lol, granted that beauty is subjective.
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Vita_Aeterna said:
I feel like half of the posts have forgotten about the "attractive" aspect of all this lol, granted that beauty is subjective.


Well, what would be attractive to you? A full bearded Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken), something like Fujitora (One Piece/Zatoichi) or more on the very light side like Tatsumi Saiga (Speed Grapher)?
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By following that logic, busty girls wouldn't exist in anime.
pls, big breast is common fetish unlike hairy. and asian people does find big busty appealing but hairy is not. so your logic is not fair.


They're not saying big boobs as a fetish, big boobs as a natural occurrence in japan. Since according to the person they quoted the only reason for lack of bearded men is because there aren't many bearded asian men irl.
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Vita_Aeterna said:
I feel like half of the posts have forgotten about the "attractive" aspect of all this lol, granted that beauty is subjective.


Well, what would be attractive to you? A full bearded Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken), something like Fujitora (One Piece/Zatoichi) or more on the very light side like Tatsumi Saiga (Speed Grapher)?

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Big beards are unattractive and anime is in the right for not having such unpleasant looking things. This also applies for mustaches. The anime designers truly are masters of good aesthetics.
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Vita_Aeterna said:
MahadoKusanagi said:


Well, what would be attractive to you? A full bearded Kenshiro (Hokuto no Ken), something like Fujitora (One Piece/Zatoichi) or more on the very light side like Tatsumi Saiga (Speed Grapher)?

You only need to look at my icon, sir.


Well, on top of my head i would say 2 names that arent even from Anime: Nathan Drake (Uncharted) and Solid Snake (in his, lets call it, middle acts).
Other than that....................i have to say maybe a woman would be more appropriate to answer a question on "attractive beards" or something, since i can only go with "cool" or "manly" which isnt necessarily the same.

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Big beards are unattractive and anime is in the right for not having such unpleasant looking things. This also applies for mustaches. The anime designers truly are masters of good aesthetics.


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what have i found here....................



OMFG

What have you done...

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But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting.


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MahadoKusanagi said:
Vita_Aeterna said:

You only need to look at my icon, sir.


Well, on top of my head i would say 2 names that arent even from Anime: Nathan Drake (Uncharted) and Solid Snake (in his, lets call it, middle acts).
Other than that....................i have to say maybe a woman would be more appropriate to answer a question on "attractive beards" or something, since i can only go with "cool" or "manly" which isnt necessarily the same.

taro said:
Big beards are unattractive and anime is in the right for not having such unpleasant looking things. This also applies for mustaches. The anime designers truly are masters of good aesthetics.


Opinions mate, opinions.


It's an actual fact, like OP said anime agrees.
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mc are mostly japanese. They aren't hairy (mostly). But they're also mostly young so not having beard is even more natural.
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taro said:
MahadoKusanagi said:


Well, on top of my head i would say 2 names that arent even from Anime: Nathan Drake (Uncharted) and Solid Snake (in his, lets call it, middle acts).
Other than that....................i have to say maybe a woman would be more appropriate to answer a question on "attractive beards" or something, since i can only go with "cool" or "manly" which isnt necessarily the same.



Opinions mate, opinions.


It's an actual fact, like OP said anime agrees.


No its not a fact just because you say its a fact. You may find it unattractive or whatever, majority of anime may not have men with facial hair, but still a lot of them do.
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b.... buut.... bishounen.... bishounen.... bishouuuuunen!
However...



OT: I don't know about attractive men with beards in animes, but there are absolute best girls with beard. You doubt that? Just click the spoiler:

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Illyricus said:
dizzyur said:
b.... buut.... bishounen.... bishounen.... bishouuuuunen!
However...



OT: I don't know about attractive men with beards in animes, but there are absolute best girls with beard. You doubt that? Just click the spoiler:



point taken, Kaiki is an exception, although I prefer him without. oh god I was fuming over the Nasujima beard thing, Nasujima doesn't look fucking good with a beard. I spent the entirety of his duration wearing it wanting to rip that fake thing off his face.
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dizzyur said:
Illyricus said:
However...



OT: I don't know about attractive men with beards in animes, but there are absolute best girls with beard. You doubt that? Just click the spoiler:



point taken, Kaiki is an exception, although I prefer him without. oh god I was fuming over the Nasujima beard thing, Nasujima doesn't look fucking good with a beard. I spent the entirety of his duration wearing it wanting to rip that fake thing off his face.
In my humble opinion, Kaiki looks good with everything. Nasujima with that beard looks like a pimp xD (no offense).
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MahadoKusanagi said:
taro said:


It's an actual fact, like OP said anime agrees.


No its not a fact just because you say its a fact. You may find it unattractive or whatever, majority of anime may not have men with facial hair, but still a lot of them do.


If there are big beards, they are always on old geezers or unimportant side characters. They are never on a character that's supposed to be considered as handsome by their designers and viewers - Well, unless it's Bara porn, but i assume that doesn't count here. Anime made this fact, not me. You're barking at the wrong tree ┐(´~`)┌
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taro said:
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No its not a fact just because you say its a fact. You may find it unattractive or whatever, majority of anime may not have men with facial hair, but still a lot of them do.


If there are big beards, they are always on old geezers or unimportant side characters. They are never on a character that's supposed to be considered as handsome by their designers and viewers - Well, unless it's Bara porn, but i assume that doesn't count here. Anime made this fact, not me. You're barking at the wrong tree ┐(´~`)┌


Kenshiro would instantly disagree when he had a full beard. Oh, he only had it for a period of time?
Then Joseph Joestar would disagree with you since he was one of the MCs in Stardust Crusaders. Doesnt matter the age.
You are still using 2 points that dont go together. The most characters that dont have facial hair still dont tell anybody anything about if a beard it attractive or not.
You are unnecessarily mixing the two but those are 2 different points. Plus, what you find attractive is full subjective. You may e.g. not find Joseph Joastar attractive, but some other person maybe does.
PLUS, did you even read the story about the so called "Ainu"? Do you even know why there are less characters with facial hair? It has ALMOST nothing to do if its attractive or not. Some women find men with facial hair attractive and love to see it in Anime as well.
So dont tell me that i am barking at the wrong tree since you are the one not fully understanding what the question is here.
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MahadoKusanagi said:
taro said:


If there are big beards, they are always on old geezers or unimportant side characters. They are never on a character that's supposed to be considered as handsome by their designers and viewers - Well, unless it's Bara porn, but i assume that doesn't count here. Anime made this fact, not me. You're barking at the wrong tree ┐(´~`)┌


Kenshiro would instantly disagree when he had a full beard. Oh, he only had it for a period of time?
Then Joseph Joestar would disagree with you since he was one of the MCs in Stardust Crusaders. Doesnt matter the age.
You are still using 2 points that dont go together. The most characters that dont have facial hair still dont tell anybody anything about if a beard it attractive or not.
You are unnecessarily mixing the two but those are 2 different points. Plus, what you find attractive is full subjective. You may e.g. not find Joseph Joastar attractive, but some other person maybe does.
PLUS, did you even read the story about the so called "Ainu"? Do you even know why there are less characters with facial hair? It has ALMOST nothing to do if its attractive or not. Some women find men with facial hair attractive and love to see it in Anime as well.
So dont tell me that i am barking at the wrong tree since you are the one not fully understanding what the question is here.


Couldn't talk shit about Joseph, so i had to stop here. It's OK friend, i was just jesting. Hope you didn't get too upset. I know the actual reason for the lack of beard in anime is because most characters are Japanese, and they aren't very hairy people in general.
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point taken, Kaiki is an exception, although I prefer him without. oh god I was fuming over the Nasujima beard thing, Nasujima doesn't look fucking good with a beard. I spent the entirety of his duration wearing it wanting to rip that fake thing off his face.
In my humble opinion, Kaiki looks good with everything. Nasujima with that beard looks like a pimp xD (no offense).


wellll he technically was implied to have pimped women… to me it looks like a pretentious Hollywood director beard. Either way facial hair doesn't suit him. to be fair he's partially doing it to avoid being recognized, but all the same, when you're controlling half the city you think you could afford to reveal who you are by taking that dratted thing off.
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dizzyur said:
Illyricus said:
In my humble opinion, Kaiki looks good with everything. Nasujima with that beard looks like a pimp xD (no offense).


wellll he technically was implied to have pimped women… to me it looks like a pretentious Hollywood director beard. Either way facial hair doesn't suit him. to be fair he's partially doing it to avoid being recognized, but all the same, when you're controlling half the city you think you could afford to reveal who you are by taking that dratted thing off.
Classic Nasujima being classic. "Pretentious Hollywood director beard", that killed me in every single sense xD

I guess you are right about the beard thing. Too bad he was wasted, he deserved his own villain arc.
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pls, big breast is common fetish unlike hairy. and asian people does find big busty appealing but hairy is not. so your logic is not fair.


They're not saying big boobs as a fetish, big boobs as a natural occurrence in japan. Since according to the person they quoted the only reason for lack of bearded men is because there aren't many bearded asian men irl.
yes they are natural, but not that natural either. asian in general have smaller average breast compare to another race. it does happened, but it not common, just like hairy. the diufference big breast is commonly prefference, when hairy is not.
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Illyricus said:
dizzyur said:


wellll he technically was implied to have pimped women… to me it looks like a pretentious Hollywood director beard. Either way facial hair doesn't suit him. to be fair he's partially doing it to avoid being recognized, but all the same, when you're controlling half the city you think you could afford to reveal who you are by taking that dratted thing off.
Classic Nasujima being classic. "Pretentious Hollywood director beard", that killed me in every single sense xD

I guess you are right about the beard thing. Too bad he was wasted, he deserved his own villain arc.


he is arrogant as f, he will ride on his shrewdness til the end of time. it often gets him nowhere good
my assumption with the whole beard thing is that he was so wrapped up in being evil that he forgot to remove it, or started enjoying the resemblance he had to a pimp meanwhile i'm like "son no that is not a good look for your host-y self"
part of the reason why i think the animators kept the beard was laziness, some of his scenes in ketsu were reallyyyy badly animated and probably would've been worse without, but his first and last episode features were far better animated than the inbetween ones for some reason, the animation when he didn't have the beard was a vast improvement over when he did. eh i just dont remember him wearing it for so long in the novel series?

I have so many qualms about the ending, and moerover ketsu in its entirety.

not that the light novel gave him enough development either, there'll never be enough venting to describe just how underdeveloped i feel he was, despite him having great potential to be even nastier than Izaya- a fullblown vengeful psychopath with truly no regard for lives- there was no execution.

the anime takes what the light novel did give him and condenses it down to nothing, not even a hint of explanation nor any of the more individualized traits & tics the novel gave him. they also cut his more 'vulgar' dialogue (he talks about making Mikado strip naked and dance on camera at one point in the novel, the only more vulgar lines he had in ketsu were limited to perving on Harunas body and talking about raping Kasane) for the anime and gave him no screentime despite his being the "main" villain of the last arc. mannn it pisses me off. and the aforementioned ending.... dont even get me started. the five literary w's (who what where when why) are completely squandered by the lack of realism to the whole "getting captured by that stupid ho" scenario (how does some waif like haruna carry a tall albeit thin guy, especially a badly injured one, anywhere? if someone helped her, who the hell was it? why did izaya give her access to anything, i thought he would just dump her in the end? anyway, it lacks even a hint of realism), that was even in the original novel and just felt like a cheap copout to get things over with. i hhaaate that cheap ending.

besides the fact that I inexplicably love Nasujima's design and character potential as a villain... what a waste of Yuuji Ueda's voice talent. like holy crap does that man have a range. he can go from psycho to meek in nothing. That kind of versatility ain't something you just finding lying around, shame he isn't in more prominent anime roles nowadays. I looove his voice's tone as well. How could you waste that amazing seiyuu on nothing? This just isn't faiiiir.

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taro said:
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Kenshiro would instantly disagree when he had a full beard. Oh, he only had it for a period of time?
Then Joseph Joestar would disagree with you since he was one of the MCs in Stardust Crusaders. Doesnt matter the age.
You are still using 2 points that dont go together. The most characters that dont have facial hair still dont tell anybody anything about if a beard it attractive or not.
You are unnecessarily mixing the two but those are 2 different points. Plus, what you find attractive is full subjective. You may e.g. not find Joseph Joastar attractive, but some other person maybe does.
PLUS, did you even read the story about the so called "Ainu"? Do you even know why there are less characters with facial hair? It has ALMOST nothing to do if its attractive or not. Some women find men with facial hair attractive and love to see it in Anime as well.
So dont tell me that i am barking at the wrong tree since you are the one not fully understanding what the question is here.


Couldn't talk shit about Joseph, so i had to stop here. It's OK friend, i was just jesting. Hope you didn't get too upset. I know the actual reason for the lack of beard in anime is because most characters are Japanese, and they aren't very hairy people in general.


Ok then. No, i didnt see any time where i should be upset. You didnt say anything upsetting, i hopefully didnt either, so its all cool. It would be just a discussion with different opinions, which is normal in my book.
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I guess Japanese people aren't into facial hair. Cultural differences and such.
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As far as I know the Japanese think a beard looks unkempt. That's probably one of the reasons why there are not many good looking anime characters with beards. Hell, the only times I've seen a beard in anime was either with unkempt characters or shinto/buddhist priests.
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Beards are not needed when we already have Freddie.

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Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?

well, asians also don't have multicolored hair, and western shaped eyes :u
most of the characters in animes don't look asian at all
that's not really a point

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Japanese people can hardly grow beards in the first place.
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Zeando said:
Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?

well, asians also don't have multicolored hair, and western shaped eyes :u
most of the characters in animes don't look asian at all
that's not really a point
i already explain this many times, but colored hair and western shaped eyes is more pure artistic reason rather than cultural reasons. also most asian didn't find hairy appealing too. not only rare.
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Kuma said:
Zeando said:

well, asians also don't have multicolored hair, and western shaped eyes :u
most of the characters in animes don't look asian at all
that's not really a point
i already explain this many times, but colored hair and western shaped eyes is more pure artistic reason rather than cultural reasons. also most asian didn't find hairy appealing too. not only rare.
ok, that's a different point then from what you said before
saying "asian is not that hairy" looked like you were basing that on their appearance, which doesn't fit anyway to the appearance of characters in animes, most of the times

if instead you're going with what they find appealing, that depends on what they think, are you just assuming they don't? or do you have some poll where "the japanese people said they don't like beards(with 70 votes over 100)" ?
the colored hair and eyes can still work as an example, they like some characteristics they don't have, so the same could apply to beards

about being artistic and cultural, can't beards be artistic too? :D

note: i'm not talking much about beards, as to statements and reasonings which looks faulty or inconsistent

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i already explain this many times, but colored hair and western shaped eyes is more pure artistic reason rather than cultural reasons. also most asian didn't find hairy appealing too. not only rare.
ok, that's a different point then from what you said before
saying "asian is not that hairy" looked like you were basing that on their appearance, which doesn't fit anyway to the appearance of characters in animes, most of the times

if instead you're going with what they find appealing, that depends on what they think, are you just assuming they don't? or do you have some poll where "the japanese people said they don't like beards(with 70 votes over 100)" ?
the colored hair and eyes can still work as an example, they like some characteristics they don't have, so the same could apply to beards

about being artistic and cultural, can't beards be artistic too? :D

note: i'm not talking much about beards, as to statements and reasonings which looks faulty or inconsistent

> i am pretty sure even doesn't look like japanese, it still using japan as main refference, including taste.

> i don't assuming, it's just common things. i am asian as well. but it's too trivial and i don't think there is source about it. but you can see what popular artist from asian, most of them are not hairy. i don't said everyone, just most.

> i don't said beards can't be artistic, but more drawing reason where beards is not easy to drawing and need ink.
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Which is because Japan lacks attractive bearded men.
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This thread took an interesting direction, and seems like fun. Allow me to throw in my 2 cents worth.
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what have i found here....................


You'd have to be mad to think of this. Omedetou.


A shame you guys are thinking of 'attractive' here, because when I think of beards, these are the first images that come to mind.





And here's some food for thought;

See the pattern? This is why monogatari Kaiki kind of fits in here.

You could say that having facial hair and a bit of age goes hand in hand. It brings you to Captain status; a step above attractive.
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Lol I think the same can be said about the country where they are being created. Japan and beards just don't go in the same sentence.
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Lol I think the same can be said about the country where they are being created. Japan and beards just don't go in the same sentence.


Hmm... So some authors lust for breasts while others lust for beards.

A reasonable conclusion!
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