astroprogs said:CookingPriest said:
That's still a self insert. A "Straight man who will act like the viewer" IS the definition of self insert. Other examples sound like generic LN protags.
Which is not inherently a bad thing. He/She won't be the best character ever and he never needed to be in the first place since Mashu and the other servants are the actual focus here. He only needs to be serviceable and that's not a very hard thing to accomplish.
CookingPriest said:
Not likely. Its a mobage.
A mobage written by Nasu. It's not EXTRA level story-heavy, but, so far, it has an adaptable bare-bones of a plot.
CookingPriest said:
Oh great! That's promising considering so far Nasuverse only had directors who know what to keep and what to rewri....oh wait.
So what, we should stop every attempt at a Fate adaptation for the fear of a bad director? That's silly.
CookingPriest said:
Persona 3 as great as it is also skips like 75% of the whole story for the sake of actually characterizing the protagonist. Its as good as an adaptation can be, but that's because it is not an actual "100%" adaptation.
Also P3 is a jrpg. FGO Is a mobage.
One has characters and focuses on characters.
Other has a self insert and majority of interactions are waifus throwing innuendos at you.
F/GO anime doesn't need to focus on the protagonist. P3 focuses on him not only because he's the protagonist, but because the plot itself is tied to his characterization and backstory. Not every plot needs to be protagonist-centric.
F/GO can focus heavily on fanservice, have waifu pandering and fluff interactions and still be good as long as there's a decent plot. Not every Fate adaptation should be treated like the super serious F/SN and F/Z.
CookingPriest said:
Gee I wonder which is more likely... HMMMMMMMMM
They have a fifty-fifty chance. Whomever does this will have to compete with ufo, and look how Prillya's adaptations turned out thanks to that competition.
Currently, a minimum level of quality was established and studios know that they need to meet the expectations set or they will never sell like as well.
CookingPriest said:
This is just ridiculous considering Bahamut was blamed by people for being "too western". And alongside Kekkai Sensen and Garo was one of that years highpoint shows.
Kancollie is worse than K-On and Clannad fused together. ITs a completely awful Madoka wannabe otaku bait with zero value.
My point wasn't contradictory to that. It IS too western, and it IS cliched.
Shows don't need to be masterfully narrated to be enjoyable. I found Kancolle boring as hell, but i can still see why some people may enjoy it.
CookingPriest said:
FHA adaptation is problematic without UBW and Fate adaptations and actual LORE from the VN. If its just the Bazett story parts fused together with everything else cut then it will be shit.
Apocrypha will be great trainwreck no matter who adapts them.
This is a discussion for another time. Let's just wait and see.
CookingPriest said:
I am sure he learned his lesson and won't let some studio half ass a Fate adaptation for easy cash by ruining shirou, filling the story with anime original moments and turning it into a generic light novel adaptation level of quality :^)
Oh wait.
This is the same studio that did KnK and F/Z so your point is moot. One adaptation with questionable decisions doesn't paint ufo in that negative of a light and certainly won't justify as an incentive to distrust ufo with future adaptations. If this happened again with HF, then sure, ufo can fuck off for all i care, but as it withstands right now, ufo still got one more. They've garnered enough good will to deserve this tolerance.
CookingPriest said:
Either way there's a shitload of nasuverse works far more deserving adaptation than this redheaded stepchild of fate franchise.
And by the time the actually relevant works(mahoyo, fate/extra, tsukihime, apocrypha, etc) get adapted, F/GO will have already been shut down and won't matter.
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They can adapt Tiger Colosseum and I'd still watch it and demand the sequel if it was good.