Aldnoah.Zero 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion

Mar 21, 2015 9:38 PM

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You completely missed my point, your arguments are all subjective and are not the standard.

First off, I can assure that there are possibly some teenagers who as you said, only want to fantasize about being a person who can do everything, but i highly doubt, there are "lots". If that were the case Gundam would have fallen flat on its face. There exists a percentage of teenagers who prefer emotionally-charges characters who make impulsive decisions. Unless you are a teenager yourself, which I highly doubt, you can't make such an assertion that Inaho, exists as a main character for teens to fantasize about being.

Secondly, Inaho has throughout this season shown emotion. So the argument that he is an "empty shell" has no basis or factual standing.

Finally, just by having flaws, emotions, and in general, traits you prefer, does not make any character good/interesting.

Well, I guess smiling a few times does mean that he did show emotion

Having flaws, emotions,and interesting traits doesn't make a good character, but good characters usually require these.

A good character all comes down to how the show portray him/her. What kind back story did they have, what reasons that force them to progress, what goals to they strive to complete, how is their personality, does it fit their characters, does it fit the story... There are tons of things that contribute to make a good characters.

I am not confident to the point to say that all the characters I like are good ones . But I can assure you, Inaho is not a good character. He's a poorly created protagonist from the beginning.

About the Gundam part, I can't say much because I do not watch Gundam, I guess teens just wanna see some giants robot fighting each others

Yes, yes, and rectangles are not squares, but squares are rectangles.

Ok, if we go strictly with your definition, that a good character comes down to how a show portrays them, we can say that a majority of the characters in this show, if not all, would not qualify as good characters. The point I am trying to make is that there is no definite method to qualify a good character, because what may be a good character to you, may not be a good character to me or someone else, and vice versa. I have a list of character that I like, i.e: Lelocuh, the entire case from Ghost in the Shell, Revy.......etc. But I can't then come and say that any and all characters have to follow the general template of character traits, experiences, and behaviour, these characters I like exhibit.

In the context of this series, as a whole, with the "style" the writers have shown, and the details they have given us, Inaho can be quantified as a good character. As a character concept, I find Inaho refreshing, because, no, not every character in an anime has to be a "Hamlet".

Nonetheless, answering your definitive questions for a good character, in relation to Inaho:

"What kind back story did they have?"
This question is out-of-bounds for this series in general, because we have little to no knowledge on the background of any characters in Aldnoah Zero.

"What reasons that force them to progress?"
It can be asserted that between seasons 1 and 2, the influence interacting with Princess Asseylum has on Inaho forces progress. For example, in season 1(forgive me I do not remember the exact episode), when the landing ship/hovercraft is attacked by one of the martian orbital knights, Inaho acts rashly for the first time to save Princess Asseylum. At the end of that battle, Inko remarks on this impulsive behaviour to Inaho. We can also cite Inaho wanting to save princess Asseylum, as a reason in season 2. For example in episode 10, where Inaho infiltrates the moonbase to find Princess Asseylum. Initially, he is in the hands of the mech piloted by Inko, when the come under attack, he tells her to drop him, but she retorts saying, the fall from this height will most likely injure him. Continuing on, the end result of this escape, results in Inaho passing out in front of Princess Asseylum, at which point, his eye's AI, takes over all biological processes t instruct Asseylum on how to evacuate the facility.

"What goals to they strive to complete?"
As previously mentioned, the capstone of Inaho's goals in season 2 have been the rescue of Princess Asseylum.

"How is their personality, does it fit their characters, does it fit the story"
Before I even, delve into answering, I will remark that this question, as a whole, is entirely subjective.
But regardless,to explain it as succinctly as possible Inaho's personality can be, and has been, described as "autistic", calculating, removed, objective, cold......more synonyms....etc.
In relation to it fitting the character or characters, this is an entirely subjective question that comes down to the mecha, and to an extent the general anime community's derived social constructs concerning the perceived "standard" of what a good mecha anime character, and to a further extent, what a good character in general, exhibits in terms of personality. Currently, this standard appears to lean to a more emotionally-charged individual, who has continuous struggles, a dark past/background, uncontrollable emotional relapse episodes, and relates to what people perceive as the "norm".
In terms of fitting the story, my answer splits into two parts. The first part says this is blatantly obvious, considering the writers willingly chose to include this character. It was not as is if they were forced to. The second part says, this question for the viewers is entirely subjective, it can be asserted that a character either fits or does not fit into a story based on the deciding qualitative definitions for a relevant character, a viewer has. I'm going to opt out and say that since the writer's included Inaho, he is relevant to the story. If this were not the case, he would not be present in the story, and we would not be having this discussion.

As for the Gundam part, I have watched every Gundamn anime in existence, which I question whether it was a good idea or not, some series have been good, others...not so much. But the one relatively similar trait between them all, is the main characters exhibiting the same personality traits of being over-emotional, and getting lucky to find a over-powered mech.

All in all, you are probably right, for the most part, teenagers, (most likely in Japan, we can't be so sure about other countries), want to see giant robots fighting each other.

CynicofSinopeMar 21, 2015 9:50 PM

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Mar 21, 2015 9:39 PM

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blackbishop said:
I'm not sure why people continue to define Inaho as Gary Stu... Wikipedia says the negative connotation of that word is: "... it is judged as poorly developed character, too perfect and lacking in realism to be interesting".

I don't see how Inaho is too perfect, he is lacking social skills, he is not skilled in combat outside the Kataphract. The only outstanding skills he has are his intelligence and his pilot skills, which aren't always as sharp as he might want, and we can see him failing to achieve something alone and even his Kataphract being heavy damaged while fighting in several episodes.

If he would kill everyone without team work, if he would always return unscathed from battle, if he would be socially adept, if he wouldn't have been NTR'ed XD... I'd have given a thought about this being used correctly, but I don't see why he is being too perfect if the only "perfect" quality he has is his brain.

^this

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Mar 21, 2015 9:43 PM

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I still don't understand Slaine's resolve. Like why did he do a sudden 360, I still don't get that. It was all about what the princess wanted, not anymore.

I can't at the princess marrying the b-side though. Someone's gonna die next episode. Hope it's Slaine

Mar 21, 2015 9:43 PM

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Oh wow...no opening and a new ending

I now have no idea what's going to happen...like seriously there's like four sides fighting against each other

Mar 21, 2015 9:44 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

Kuro_Kishi said:
Lacking social skills, yet he has lots of friends, girls that like him, everyone trusted him.

Real kids without social skills are usually shunted by other people. Just saying

His character just doesn't make much sense in the real world. This is only the beginning of why I believe Inaho is a wish fulfillment character, but I won't get into that.

This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

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Mar 21, 2015 9:46 PM

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MetaKite said:
I love it when people can't counter your points so they just change the topic altogether if they don't want to devolve to name calling. fst, you still hanging there? Are you OK? Post if you're OK.

You must be new here huh?

Everyone does that, even us apparently the "Slaine apologists" as they say.

Mar 21, 2015 9:47 PM

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CynicofSinope said:

Savethebestforu said:

His character just doesn't make much sense in the real world. This is only the beginning of why I believe Inaho is a wish fulfillment character, but I won't get into that.

This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

fiction doesn't equal lacks of common sense

For example: Giant robots are unrealistic, doesn't mean characters in mecha anime should also be unrealistic

Mar 21, 2015 9:48 PM

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CynicofSinope said:

Savethebestforu said:

His character just doesn't make much sense in the real world. This is only the beginning of why I believe Inaho is a wish fulfillment character, but I won't get into that.

This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

He is referring to the social and personality background of the characters, not the technological feasibility. In Ghost in the Shell, the political and social background made the show extremely engaging because it rings true in the real world of politics and social exchanges.

In the series Inaho is proving to be unbelievable and unlikable because his relationships between his friends and relatives do not make sense. Whilst Slaine accurately portrays many of us in real life with his character and decision makings.

Mar 21, 2015 9:49 PM

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CynicofSinope said:
This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

You seemed to misunderstand my point. I didn't say anything about suspending disbelief to follow the plot, I was more talking about the genuine feel of the characters involved in the story. If the show has as serious of a tone as A/Z, this is universal throughout all mediums.

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CynicofSinope said:

Savethebestforu said:

His character just doesn't make much sense in the real world. This is only the beginning of why I believe Inaho is a wish fulfillment character, but I won't get into that.

This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

Are you seriously comparing fiating friendships to technology in anime?

Mar 21, 2015 9:54 PM

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Kuro_Kishi said:

blackbishop said:
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Lacking social skills, yet he has lots of friends, girls that like him, everyone trusted him.

Real kids without social skills are usually shunted by other people. Just saying

Lacking social skills neither means he doesn't have friends nor means that he can't be trusted. Just saying too ;).

I have seen guys without social skills having friends, and these friends trust these kind of guys because they haven't done anything to betray their trust. If you haven't find situations like that, that's cool, but I have seen it and I don't think that's something alien.

Mar 21, 2015 9:55 PM

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OfficialMikoSM said:
You must be new here huh?

Can you imagine the faces of all the first time posters going into the S2 finale thread to give their thoughts on the series?

At last, the greatest MAL shitstorm of our time is upon us.

Mar 21, 2015 9:56 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

CynicofSinope said:
This is probably the worst mindset to have with anime in general, rarely do anime apply to "real life".

If we applied such a concept, animes, such as Ghost in the Shell,(I chose this because it has technology currently being researched, but no where near completion), would be invalidated. Optic camouflage, human-like robotic prosthesis, and cyber-brains, are far from being consumer ready.

You seemed to misunderstand my point. I didn't say anything about suspending disbelief to follow the plot, I was more talking about the genuine feel of the characters involved in the story. If the show has as serious as a tone as A/Z, this is universal throughout all mediums.

That's the problem "genuine feel" for a character is entirely subjective. As for Inaho in real life, there most definitely would be cases where kids would shun him, but i have also personally seen people who are overtly-extrovert, go out of their way to interact, with people similar to Inaho.

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Mar 21, 2015 9:57 PM

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WHAT THE FUCK, ASSEYLUM???!

Mar 21, 2015 9:58 PM

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blackbishop said:
I have seen guys without social skills having friends, and these friends trust these kind of guys because they haven't done anything to betray their trust.

It's one thing for an introvert/autist to have a couple loyal friends. It's another thing to always be the center of attention in said group of friends.

Mar 21, 2015 9:59 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

blackbishop said:
I have seen guys without social skills having friends, and these friends trust these kind of guys because they haven't done anything to betray their trust.

It's one thing for an introvert/autist to have a couple loyal friends. It's another thing to always be the center of attention in said group of friends.

I was gonna say that, but you beat me to it :)

Mar 21, 2015 10:01 PM

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CynicofSinope said:
That's the problem "genuine feel" for a character is entirely subjective.

Of course it's subjective because it's my opinion. All critical analysis is opinion of some sort. Some people will agree with me and others will disagree, but it doesn't stop me from believing I'm right.

Mar 21, 2015 10:03 PM

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CynicofSinope said:

Savethebestforu said:

You seemed to misunderstand my point. I didn't say anything about suspending disbelief to follow the plot, I was more talking about the genuine feel of the characters involved in the story. If the show has as serious as a tone as A/Z, this is universal throughout all mediums.

That's the problem "genuine feel" for a character is entirely subjective. As for Inaho in real life, there most definitely would be cases where kids would shun him, but i have also personally seen people who are overtly-extrovert, go out of their way to interact, with people similar to Inaho.

Savethebestforu said:

blackbishop said:
I have seen guys without social skills having friends, and these friends trust these kind of guys because they haven't done anything to betray their trust.

It's one thing for an introvert/autist to have a couple loyal friends. It's another thing to always be the center of attention in said group of friends.

If the person's friends are all extroverts, which in the case of Inaho, it looks that way, then in an attempt to engage aforementioned friend, the end resultant is what appears like the individual being he center of attention.

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Mar 21, 2015 10:10 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

CynicofSinope said:
That's the problem "genuine feel" for a character is entirely subjective.

Of course it's subjective because it's my opinion. All critical analysis is opinion of some sort. Some people will agree with me and others will disagree, but it doesn't stop me from believing I'm right.

I'll disagree with you on the point that not all critical analyses are opinions of some sort, because research or scientific laws generally don't adhere to that. But I guess it depends on how you define an "opinion" and "fact" in the first place, and make the decision about how and when and opinion becomes a fact, and vice versa. But I won't go into detail, and as for stopping you from believing you are wrong, you would be surprised what social exclusion can achieve, i.e. how a "group" characterized by a "group-think" behaviour react to someone who does not follow them. Look what you made me do! I went on a huge tangent because of you. GRRRRRRRR!

But nonetheless, the issue I think, comes form the fact that everyone want Inaho to be your average anime character, and you know what I mean by that.

CynicofSinopeMar 21, 2015 10:15 PM

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Mar 21, 2015 10:12 PM

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if i was Slaine i would have felt like i got fucked over by someone who i thought was on my side so hard

Mar 21, 2015 10:13 PM

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CynicofSinope said:
If the person's friends are all extroverts, which in the case of Inaho, it looks that way, then in an attempt to engage aforementioned friend, the end resultant is what appears like the individual being he center of attention.

But why? Introverts and Extroverts can be friends, but people in general will not typically do all the work in maintaining a friendship by themselves. Being somewhat of an introvert myself, I usually lose contact with my extroverted friends for a week or 2 at a time until I reach out to them, because they know I'm an introvert and they've learned that giving me space is the best option. They don't want to be rejected when they invite me to a party for the 5th time in 5 days, so they wait for me. Even in parties I'm usually only talking to one or 2 people/friends at a time.

Introverts have never been the center of attention in my experience. They excel in the things they are good at and become noticed by people, but almost all of the time in social situations they are in the background unless they MAKE AN EFFORT to reach out to people. Inaho makes no such effort at all.

Mar 21, 2015 10:19 PM

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CynicofSinope said:
everyone want Inaho to be your average anime character, and you know what I mean by that.

I think everyone that dislikes Inaho just wants him to have some substance. Anything that makes him believable or relatable as a fellow human being is welcome. At least this and the fact that I don't really think he adds anything to the overall story is why I dislike him. Right now, he has more in common with Kal El than one of us.

Nobody likes perfect characters that only fight for good. Maybe I've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

Mar 21, 2015 10:21 PM

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I felt this was one of the better episodes of the season, not that is saying much.

Mar 21, 2015 10:21 PM

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deadoptimist said:
Nah, I think I postpone watching it until some other time in future, so I'll be absent from the night party.

I'll drop in to check on you, guys, tomorrow, but you'll have to hold without my shitposting. Best luck in the flaming battle!

Noooooo. I was absent most of last threads so I was waiting for your thoughts. Why, deadoptimist? Why must you make us wait?

Mar 21, 2015 10:23 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

CynicofSinope said:
If the person's friends are all extroverts, which in the case of Inaho, it looks that way, then in an attempt to engage aforementioned friend, the end resultant is what appears like the individual being he center of attention.

But why? Introverts and Extroverts can be friends, but people in general will not typically do all the work in maintaining a friendship by themselves. Being somewhat of an introvert myself, I usually lose contact with my extroverted friends for a week or 2 at a time until I reach out to them, because they know I'm an introvert and they've learned that giving me space is the best option. They don't want to be rejected when they invite me to a party for the 5th time in 5 days, so they wait for me. Even in parties I'm usually only talking to one or 2 people/friends at a time.

Introverts have never been the center of attention in my experience. They excel in the things they are good at and become noticed by people, but almost all of the time in social situations they are in the background unless they MAKE AN EFFORT to reach out to people. Inaho makes no such effort at all.

It is usually the average case that introvert-extrovert friendships fizzle out. But once again,even though that is your personal experience, that is not always the case. I have seen introvert-extrovert friendships where the relationships have lasted, and are still ongoing at that. The extrovert was attempting to engage the introvert, sometimes resulting in success, other times failure, over a period time however, the introvert essentially gave up and would go along with what the extrovert wanted, to appease them.

This illustrated my point, as you have mentioned from your personal experience, there are people, who will give up after one side is not putting in effort, but there are also those who are just plain stubborn, and will continue to no end.

As for game of thrones, maybe that's the reason, I don't know guy/gal/whatever-your-gender-is-so-the-tumblr-SJWs-don't-come-for-me. My position with liking Inaho comes from the exhaustion of seeing overly-emotional, hamlet-style, anime characters that have apparently become the standard for what every anime character should be. Thanks Gundam!

CynicofSinopeMar 21, 2015 10:29 PM

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Mar 21, 2015 10:28 PM

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Savethebestforu said:

CynicofSinope said:
everyone want Inaho to be your average anime character, and you know what I mean by that.

I think everyone that dislikes Inaho just wants him to have some substance. Anything that makes him believable or relatable as a fellow human being is welcome. At least this and the fact that I don't really think he adds anything to the overall story is why I dislike him. Right now, he has more in common with Kal El than one of us.

Nobody likes perfect characters that only fight for good. Maybe I've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

This so much.

Mar 21, 2015 11:00 PM

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Savethebestforu said:
[...]Maybe I've been watching too much Game of Thrones.

I don't see how that could be something negative :P.

Mar 21, 2015 11:02 PM

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slaine got it hard in the a22

this princess cry too much though ruining this ep 3/5

Mar 21, 2015 11:02 PM

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neither inaho or slaine wil get asseylum seems............

Mar 21, 2015 11:09 PM

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LOL at the ending, she basically gave Slaine the middle finger.

One more ep to go.

Mar 21, 2015 11:17 PM

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Eddelrittuo: "...Slaine hasn't changed...he's always cared about you..." Wtf has Slaine been feeding you girl? Because I can smell the giant steaming pile of BS stank coming out of your mouth through the monitor. That may have been true in the past, but now that he has virtually everything he wants (vengeance, a high position of power, influence, and the princess alive), he's all like "Fuck it, I want more!" Slaine has the same mentality as a self-entitled piece of shit, thinking that just because he went through hell, he can do whatever he damn wants, and take whatever he wants with no regard for anyone else.

Had he still truly cared for the princess, he would still be advocating her ideals of peace, instead of being an aggressive ambitious war-monger. So no, I have to disagree with you, my naive Eddelrittuo. Slaine has absolutely changed. He doesn't love Asseylum anymore. Clear and simple. He's now gay for Harklight! Lololololol. But seriously though, I already can see the BL doujinshi flooding this year's summer Comiket.

Mar 21, 2015 11:54 PM

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Pfffft. I expected this type of ending the war where Asseylum would get married but I didn't expect that it would be Klancain. What a great way to end this shipping wars.

But on a serious note, I'm not interested how will the anime end next week. And even if there would be a third season, movie or OVA, this show was a trainwreck lel.

The world shall know the truth soon.

Mar 21, 2015 11:58 PM

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4kicks said:
Eddelrittuo: "...Slaine hasn't changed...he's always cared about you..." Wtf has Slaine been feeding you girl? Because I can smell the giant steaming pile of BS stank coming out of your mouth through the monitor. That may have been true in the past, but now that he has virtually everything he wants (vengeance, a high position of power, influence, and the princess alive), he's all like "Fuck it, I want more!" Slaine has the same mentality as a self-entitled piece of shit, thinking that just because he went through hell, he can do whatever he damn wants, and take whatever he wants with no regard for anyone else.

Had he still truly cared for the princess, he would still be advocating her ideals of peace, instead of being an aggressive ambitious war-monger. So no, I have to disagree with you, my naive Eddelrittuo. Slaine has absolutely changed. He doesn't love Asseylum anymore. Clear and simple. He's now gay for Harklight! Lololololol. But seriously though, I already can see the BL doujinshi flooding this year's summer Comiket.

^this

You know what? You're probably right, I would not be surprised at all.

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Mar 22, 2015 12:11 AM

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Cannot bring myself to like Inaho or UFE, I hope Slaine wrecks them both >:D

Mar 22, 2015 12:36 AM

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Silly Inaho, why are you mentioning a death flag? Unless...

So not only does Klancain escapes with Princess Asseylum, but he also gets to marry her?
Seems like Klancain will be getting more power. He is a potential threat.
I wonder what Slaine and Inaho will do though.

I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling.

Mar 22, 2015 1:04 AM

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Another episode that surprised me many times over the course of events, I saw several flags of death raised, I saw several unexpected reactions of some characters, and the prologue of a great battle for the final episode

But one big question grew during the episode, the next episode will be the last or there may be a new season?

Well, this anime is always surprising me, so I hope any something that happens, especially with the princess taking a new character as husband and leaving the two protagonists, I really want to see their reaction so it, especially Inaho

Personally I would like the princess did romantic couple with Inaho, but I want the end to be as good or better than the first season, with this I'm already very satisfied ..

Mar 22, 2015 1:08 AM

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MonadoRudra said:

FatefulLove said:
Turning into a 3 sided battle, I can't help but feel that one episode won't be enough to have a satisfying ending.

Marrying Cruheto, I would like to see how the people in Slaine's side would react.

Most people on Slaine's 'side' never really gave 2 shits about the terrible romance, most of us just want to watch a character that isn't extremely bland or outright terrible.

It's the same few cancerous Inaho fanboys who have been persistently bringing up the romance and trying to paint Slaine as some sort of possessive yandere every single week, like Slaine was deliberately keeping Asseylum in a coma, or he would have a mental breakdown when Asseylum rejected him or he would have a breakdown when Asseylum leaves/escapes him. Unsurprisingly none of those predictions happened.

Mar 22, 2015 1:22 AM

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Brxck said:

MonadoRudra said:

Most people on Slaine's 'side' never really gave 2 shits about the terrible romance, most of us just want to watch a character that isn't extremely bland or outright terrible.

It's the same few cancerous Inaho fanboys who have been persistently bringing up the romance and trying to paint Slaine as some sort of possessive yandere every single week, like Slaine was deliberately keeping Asseylum in a coma, or he would have a mental breakdown when Asseylum rejected him or he would have a breakdown when Asseylum leaves/escapes him. Unsurprisingly none of those predictions happened.

Couldn't the same statement be said for people on Slaine's side as well. I remember at the end of season 1 when, everyone though Inaho was dead, how "the same few cancerous Slaine fanboys" were rejoiceing, making, 15+ threads, basically insulting anyone for not automatically liking Slaine. Fast-forward a few months, Inaho shows up....Wait!? He's not dead, the shitstorm that came from that was hilarious, should be written in the history books.

If you have strong blood put into needle and inject into someone else and you will be able to control them.

Mar 22, 2015 1:38 AM

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Asseylum marrying another guy wtf is this lol
new ED
let's see how they'll end this chaos

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Mar 22, 2015 2:54 AM

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Neobosco said:

Just comes to show Asseylum who I actually liked in S1 has totally lost my respect. I am disgusted. First Inaho the robot come true and now this... Depending on how episode 12 ends it's either Guilty Crown all over again or something I didn't expect like this episode.

Feeling Down?
Healing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXr0L4pOnV8
Soothing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT3o_BBH61c
Interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UpZnSjMko4
Female? Gotcha covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8cOqzku9zA
...yeah

Mar 22, 2015 3:08 AM

#441

amateur

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Yes,fuck yeah!!

It might have been boring as hell to sit trough for a large part of this second season,but these last episodes completely redeemed the series and easily established it as the trainwreck of the year.

Dialogue such as the "That sounds like a death flag" and recycling the "twist" imma marry this character introduced just 1 episode before ,was so cringe-worthy that it had me laughing out loud.

amateurMar 22, 2015 3:24 AM

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Mar 22, 2015 3:29 AM

#442

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NorthBayAnime said:

abyss333 said:
I DONT GET WHATS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Join the club :D no one does

I want in too!

Mar 22, 2015 3:32 AM

#443

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Savethebestforu said:

kymano said:
Oh God, Asseylum cannot be this stupid? Slaine told her war was inevitable and her Grandfather said the same thing, yet this dumbass excuse of a princess doesnt even know that her precious Vers is politically foiled with corruption.
Can't believe Slaine did all that work uniting the Counts for Asseylum to just FUCK UP like that?
Ignorance is a bliss.

This far in, I still find myself wishing this was a completely different show. People can complain that I'm still picking apart the show, but I'm giving my opinion about a part of this episode.

The 20 or so seconds of Slaine giving his pre-battle speech before he was interrupted by the Princess was really engaging IMO and it was a fantastic VA performance. Combined with the shots of all the unique looks female/male counts in different locations, you just have to think of how much better this show would have been if the ENTIRE focus of the show was on Vers. Think about it. Just cut out the story on Earth and have it deal mostly in the destruction/revolution of Vers. What mostly failed this show in my opinion was the cast of Earth. They took up 75% of the first season and 50% of the second and even though they are greater in number than the Vers characters, they still offer much less in every category.

Anyways, Asseylum was pretty unbearable. She believes that she understands everything going on around her and that she knows best, which really confuses me. The difference with Slaine is that he knows that what he is doing is wrong but uses it as a means to an end and also he is portrayed as the villain. Asseylum is going to run Vers into the ground IMO with her idealology, unless she has an unforeseen plan that she has created. But what pisses me off even more is that the show seems to be taking a major "black and white" approach near the end. Cruhteo's son is maybe the biggest excuse for a plot device I've ever seen in anime. Why did the show even need him in the first place when they had Mazuurek? Couldn't she just marry Mazzurek? He acts like a giddy school-girl wanting her senpai to notice her around Asseylum anyways so I'm sure he'd marry her.

I liked it better than last episode, but that's not saying much. Every scene with Inaho was meh. They are trying to paint him as a tragic hero so badly that it's not working for me.

Holy crap. You have shown me the light :O if this were centred on Vers I'd be drooling all over this like a hormonal teenager.

Not gonna lie though, seeing Cruhteo junior made me squeel a bit :/ only because I'm still salty about his dad's death xD Mazureek though <3 at least he got noticed by his senpai? XD

Mar 22, 2015 3:57 AM

#444

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TeriyakiNinja007 said:

NorthBayAnime said:

Join the club :D no one does

I want in too!

This is the kind of anime where you have to turn of your brain.

Mar 22, 2015 4:12 AM

#445

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G_Spark233 said:

TeriyakiNinja007 said:

I want in too!

This is the kind of anime where you have to turn of your brain.

Youd have to turn off your brain so much that your life functions would cese to function in order to stop noticing the stupidity going on.

Mar 22, 2015 4:26 AM

#446

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baki502 said:

G_Spark233 said:

This is the kind of anime where you have to turn of your brain.

Youd have to turn off your brain so much that your life functions would cese to function in order to stop noticing the stupidity going on.

can't complain there @_@ watching to see how the shit's gonna hit the fan in the end and my gawd, I have a feeling it's gonna splatter EVEYWHERE

Mar 22, 2015 4:44 AM

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I managed to watch some parts... Lost some braincells I think.

Those who insisted that the eye wasn't an AI can go pack now, Inaho speaks to it as to an equal.

I wanna the next season to exist only in one case - it would be centered around the matured Slaine and called "the extermination of my ex".

Mar 22, 2015 4:46 AM

#448

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deadoptimist said:
I managed to watch some parts... Lost some braincells I think.

Those who insisted that the eye wasn't an AI can go pack now, Inaho speaks to it as to an equal.

I wanna the next season to exist only in one case - it would be centered around the matured Slaine and called "the extermination of my ex".

Still doesn't give him that much of a boon in terms of performances. There was no help coming and it lied to Asseylum based on INaho's wishes. It's not something that's going to take over when it put itself at risk the way it did last episode.

LOL matured Slaine. Best joke

Mar 22, 2015 4:55 AM

#449

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Darklight0303 said:
Still doesn't give him that much of a boon in terms of performances. There was no help coming and it lied to Asseylum based on INaho's wishes. It's not something that's going to take over when it put itself at risk the way it did last episode

But it's obviosly self-conscious, and you, people, argued that it is a simple answering machine.

deadoptimist said:
LOL matured Slaine. Best joke

Your hate seriously clouds your judgement. He has matured. It's clearly visible from the fact that he sent pursuers while being all emotional with the princess and from his "no place to return to" line.
If you compare him now to how he was in the first eps and even in the beginning of this season, he has come a long way.

Technically, if the writers were not so bent on destroying the characters, after all the hardships he has survived he could've become an outstanding person, a hero or a villain - not important.

Oh, and on unrelated note princess hooking up with the son of Slaine's abuser (who also seem to know or to guess what his father did to terrans) is really a lot for the guy to overcome. I think that the writers overdo the suffering part.

Mar 22, 2015 4:57 AM

#450

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Darklight0303 said:
LOL matured Slaine. Best joke

What's the joke? She was saying have the next season cover Slaine as an adult...

mature(adjective)-fully developed physically; full-grown.

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