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Jun 5, 2009 10:19 PM

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KyuuA4 said:
To anyone who prefers anime in Japanese... and Japanese only -- how many of you at least try to watch RAWs?

sbyrstall said:
I just did check of subbed vs. dubbed with the Cardcaptor Sakura. Woof, talk about listenin to two different worlds. With the subs, the characters sounded like kids (like they should). The VAs for the dubs were just horrible...and the dubs were rewritten for the American audience.


Well -- anything done by 4Kids and... Streamline. Those companies butchered dialog and made cuts. I'll understand the "hate" towards those.


Don't put Streamline in the same boat as 4Kids. Streamline's dubs may have sucked in terms of voice acting, but they were uncut.

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KyuuA4 said:
To anyone who prefers anime in Japanese... and Japanese only -- how many of you at least try to watch RAWs?

sbyrstall said:
I just did check of subbed vs. dubbed with the Cardcaptor Sakura. Woof, talk about listenin to two different worlds. With the subs, the characters sounded like kids (like they should). The VAs for the dubs were just horrible...and the dubs were rewritten for the American audience.


Well -- anything done by 4Kids and... Streamline. Those companies butchered dialog and made cuts. I'll understand the "hate" towards those.


Don't put Streamline in the same boat as 4Kids. Streamline's dubs may have sucked in terms of voice acting, but they were uncut.

Jun 6, 2009 10:17 AM
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I don't think that necessarily that everything is better in Japanese. Sure I watch it in Japanese 98 percent of the time, but I like dubs too.
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Definitely subbed! Most of the dubbed versions have terrible, unnatural expressions. It's painful to listen to.
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I've found that I can't stand most dubbed Anime that I like when I was a kid. But there are a few Anime that I always watch dubbed rather than subbed. They'd be: Ghost in the Shell and Evangelion. I think both dubs are great. Other than that I try to watch Anime subbed, but sometimes I'll watch it dubbed when I'm playing video games or something just so I have something on in the background and I can still follow what's going on even if I'm not actually watching it.
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Of course animes in Japanese are better. I do enjoy decent English dubbed anime as well.

Taking Clannad as an example, there are a few decent English fan-dubbed ones.

Though they should do something about the Japanese names they are pronouncing like giving them a close English name or something...
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I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).
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Sadly I used to be part of the sub elitist group. I'm capable of watching in both languages however, I've come to take a liking to dubs.

These girls at school tried brainwashing people to become sub elitists. It was quite sad they had me convinced for a long time that subs were always better. Usually those elitists over from my end fall into the Narutard category. No offense to subs only, but wouldn't it make life easier on you and fans around you if you could learn to enjoy both and not get so defensive about it?
Jun 8, 2009 12:40 PM

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I enjoy watching both, but some of the newly dubbed anime are kinda badly done... like Lucky Star and Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni...

I dont stick with one. Some anime I enjoy 100000x better dubbed though~ Those including Full Metal Panic, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Case Closed/Detective Conan. I dont know why, but the VAs just seem to sound better than the Seiyuu...
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I tend to watch Japanese with subs first, then watch the dub and see which one i like better. Its just a matter of opinion really.
But for me about 90% of the time i prefer subs.

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Jun 8, 2009 1:01 PM

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Japanese voices with subs is the best choice for me.
I can't stand either english or italian dubs.
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I've enjoyed some anime in english such as Pokemon, Hellsing and a couple of anime movies.
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ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.

disassembler said:
I've found that I can't stand most dubbed Anime that I like when I was a kid. But there are a few Anime that I always watch dubbed rather than subbed. They'd be: Ghost in the Shell and Evangelion. I think both dubs are great. Other than that I try to watch Anime subbed, but sometimes I'll watch it dubbed when I'm playing video games or something just so I have something on in the background and I can still follow what's going on even if I'm not actually watching it.


lol @ Evangelion having a good dub. Asuka's voice actor was horrendous. All other vocies sounded forced as fuck. Get new ears.
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japanese, because they put much more effort into the voice acting as a general rule.

there is one exception to that rule: cowboy bebop.
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King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.
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kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.
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King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.

They used the english language properly, they said "older shows". Yu Yu Hakusho and Fushigi Yuugi are older in comparison to some of the shows airing today.
You can not seem to comment or reply to someone who you disagree without personally insulting them. Chill...
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King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.


Ill defend who I want. And that comment of yours wasnt very appropriate. =_=ll It doesnt matter what you were trying to say, calling others idiots is just not appropriate.

End of discussion. ):<
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kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.


Ill defend who I want. And that comment of yours wasnt very appropriate. =_=ll It doesnt matter what you were trying to say, calling others idiots is just not appropriate.

End of discussion. ):<


Stay off of my profile and don't hunt down my posts, you pathetic faggot.
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King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.


Ill defend who I want. And that comment of yours wasnt very appropriate. =_=ll It doesnt matter what you were trying to say, calling others idiots is just not appropriate.

End of discussion. ):<


Stay off of my profile and don't hunt down my posts, you pathetic faggot.


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qseft said:
King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
ummyeah said:
I prefer watching older shows dubbed,
because the original Japanese just sounds too dated to me
(ex. Yu Yu Hakusho, Fushigi Yuugi).


Oh yeah, as if the shitty dub-overs of the 80's sound any better.

And if you think YYH and Fushigi Yuugi are old, you're an idiot.


Well, to some they do sound better.... it a matter of opnion.
And if Im reading the quote right, they didnt say YYH and FY were OLD... they just said that they are older as compared to recent anime.

Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


Don't defend people who don't know how to properly use the english language. I don't care what he MEANT, I was commenting on what he SAID.


Ill defend who I want. And that comment of yours wasnt very appropriate. =_=ll It doesnt matter what you were trying to say, calling others idiots is just not appropriate.

End of discussion. ):<


Stay off of my profile and don't hunt down my posts, you pathetic faggot.


If you didn't realize it, you're becoming the things that you say others are. Be nice.


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While I usually prefer subs over dubs, if an anime is dubbed by Funimation, I'll consider watching the dub. Funimation did a great job on Dragonball Z and Fullmetal Alchemist.

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there is one exception to that rule: cowboy bebop.


One of those rare instances where the dub is better than the original.
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kimichan09 said:
I enjoy watching both, but some of the newly dubbed anime are kinda badly done... like Lucky Star and Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni...

I dont stick with one. Some anime I enjoy 100000x better dubbed though~ Those including Full Metal Panic, Fullmetal Alchemist, and Case Closed/Detective Conan. I dont know why, but the VAs just seem to sound better than the Seiyuu...


lucky star = worst.dub.ever.
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kimichan09 said:
Dont go calling people idiots... >.> Especially when you dont get what theyre saying.


A typical anime fan is BLIND to options beyond Japanese vs not Japanese.

Personally, the word "dub" isn't even in my vocabulary or lexicon anymore. When it comes to this topic, I either specify by language. Most people tend to forget that anime can be shown in languages more than just Japanese OR English. Though, naturally, Japanese is default - where - no doubt, the anime is produced under the Japanese language initially.

Though, I must say. It was weird seeing the Over 9000 videos in Spanish and Italian. XD

Bottom line: There's more to this world than English or Japanese.
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Jun 8, 2009 9:36 PM

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I like both! :3
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cyruz said:
Watching anime in its original Japanese is the best.


Cowboy bebop has really good dub (eng)
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KyuuA4 said:
Bottom line: There's more to this world than English or Japanese.


KyuuA4 said:
Bottom line: There's more to this world than English or Japanese.


KyuuA4 said:
Bottom line: There's more to this world than English or Japanese.
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Threads like this always make me rage but whatever.

I like both.

Some I prefer in Japanese and some I prefer in English. It all depends on which voices for the character's I thought fit better.
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i prefer jap
eng dubs are alright though.
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Actually an interesting phenomenom happens about this. In most cases, if you first watch the dub version, you ll find the original voice strange, lame. If you watch the original version first youll think the opposite. But if you really are a fan of anime and keep watching a lot of series, youll always find dub kinda weak.
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I prefer dubs, if I wanted to sit here reading i'd just get the manga instead.
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yarbles said:
I prefer dubs, if I wanted to sit here reading i'd just get the manga instead.

That's very true now that I think about it.

But Dubs are good if they have some really good voice overs, Like the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. If they don't then I'd rather go with subs.
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Actually an interesting phenomenom happens about this. In most cases, if you first watch the dub version, you ll find the original voice strange, lame. If you watch the original version first youll think the opposite. But if you really are a fan of anime and keep watching a lot of series, youll always find dub kinda weak.


Pretty much. Though it's been said before in many such debates so I think most people are already aware of the 'phenomenon' but still disregard it and argue about their preferences anyway.
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Just wondering what you think as to if I should watch certain anime in the original Japanese or dubbed...

Castle In the Sky
Grave of the Firefly's
Howl's Moving Castle



Actually those three are pretty good dubbed. They actually use real actors instead of the low paid voice actors that you normally hear. Disney usually employs great voice actors. And havent you heard in grade school that "all" isnt always correct?

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yarbles said:
I prefer dubs, if I wanted to sit here reading i'd just get the manga instead.

That's very true now that I think about it.

But Dubs are good if they have some really good voice overs, Like the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. If they don't then I'd rather go with subs.


ITT: People with broken fucking ears

Haruhi had a crappy dub and if you disagree you're wrong and bad.
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I hate dubbed anime... anime is always better in japanese, with the original seiyuus :D






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I hate dubbed anime... anime is always better in japanese, with the original seiyuus :D


Everything's always better with the original everything.
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Am I the only one getting annoyed with the constant trolling in this thread?
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Capellabun said:
Am I the only one getting annoyed with the constant trolling in this thread?


Probably, most of these other people have probably been on the internet much longer than a crybaby like you has.
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King_Kenshiro said:
CakeLander said:
yarbles said:
I prefer dubs, if I wanted to sit here reading i'd just get the manga instead.

That's very true now that I think about it.

But Dubs are good if they have some really good voice overs, Like the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. If they don't then I'd rather go with subs.


ITT: People with broken fucking ears

Haruhi had a crappy dub and if you disagree you're wrong and bad.


I watched Haruhi both dubbed and subbed and it all depends on who's watching. We all have different opinions. You are not the voice of everyone here.

Haruhi was pretty good, better than most new dubs. I just didnt like the story too much, kinda bored me.

Aww I guess Im wrong and bad.... boo hoo.. ]:<

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Am I the only one getting annoyed with the constant trolling in this thread?


Probably, most of these other people have probably been on the internet much longer than a crybaby like you has.


>.> Capellabun wasnt being a crybaby. And this thread is being trolled a lot... by you.

*sigh* ...I guess you dont have an off button do you?
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kimichan09 said:
King_Kenshiro said:
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yarbles said:
I prefer dubs, if I wanted to sit here reading i'd just get the manga instead.

That's very true now that I think about it.

But Dubs are good if they have some really good voice overs, Like the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. If they don't then I'd rather go with subs.


ITT: People with broken fucking ears

Haruhi had a crappy dub and if you disagree you're wrong and bad.


I watched Haruhi both dubbed and subbed and it all depends on who's watching. We all have different opinions. You are not the voice of everyone here.

Haruhi was pretty good, better than most new dubs. I just didnt like the story too much, kinda bored me.

Aww I guess Im wrong and bad.... boo hoo.. ]:<

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Capellabun said:
Am I the only one getting annoyed with the constant trolling in this thread?


Probably, most of these other people have probably been on the internet much longer than a crybaby like you has.


>.> Capellabun wasnt being a crybaby. And this thread is being trolled a lot... by you.

*sigh* ...I guess you dont have an off button do you?


I don't. <3
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I don't. <3


Didnt think so~ <3
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I think anime is better in Japanese. For me dubs sounds wierd.
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I always see anime in the original language. I can't imagine to see the Cinderella cartoon on japanese. But then again, all have different opinions
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Hmm.. I oughta start a new thread. Similar topic, but different question. Gimme a couple hours or so. XD
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Anime is better in Japanese. End of Story.
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Am I the only one getting annoyed with the constant trolling in this thread?


Want to know why? Simple.

Because of ignorant answers such as the one quoted below:

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Anime is better in Japanese. End of Story.
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I always prefer Japanese. It just sounds cooler lol
Also, American pronunciation of Japanese names is funky ;_;
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kurodayuchi said:
But if you really are a fan of anime and keep watching a lot of series, youll always find dub kinda weak.

Untrue. I'd consider myself an anime fan and have enjoyed many a series (in both English and Japanese), and the entire argument for or against either the Japanese audio track or any sort dubbing boils down to only two things: personal preference and opinion.
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Foggle said:
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But if you really are a fan of anime and keep watching a lot of series, youll always find dub kinda weak.

Untrue. I'd consider myself an anime fan and have enjoyed many a series (in both English and Japanese), and the entire argument for or against either the Japanese audio track or any sort dubbing boils down to only two things: personal preference and opinion.


Before whoever arrives and intends to contradict you say, I just wanna say that what you said makes total sense! I mean I always found dubs to be good for one reason or another. Case in point, I found the dub of Lucky Star to be WAY funnier than the original not neccesarily because of the voices (I actually like Nozomi Sasaki playing as Patty better than Patricia Ja Lee), but because the dubbed dialogue is far more hilarious than the translated subtitles.

Misao (subtitles):"Contrary to her looks, Ayano's scary when she's angry."
Misao (dubbed): "She looks all sweet and mellow but piss her off and she'll cut ya man!" And I find that totally hilarious!

I also happen to like the idea of hearing the Yugioh 4kids dub better than the original. Not because of the acting or anything, but there's something about the feel of the original version that you at times can't help but be bored watching it.

That being said, depending on the "feel" of the anime I may like hearing the original version of an anime better than the dubbed no matter how great the dubbing is. I like how in Rurouni Kenshin, all of the dub actors pronounce so many Japanese terms while still maintaining their acting, not to mention I like how Richard Cansino applies a more masculine voice. But I fell in love with Japanese audio as soon as I heard it because it gave a more authentic, Japanese feel to the Meiji era setting of the show.

That's one of the rare occasions where I will like the original audio better than the dub. Other than that I personally don't understand why people would say that Japanese audio is better than dub when many people don't even understand the language well enough to determine good and bad acting. I'm certainly one of those people even though I learn Japanese here and there.

But it's as you said, no mater how you slice it, the basis is preference.
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