ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: YEah of course.Just like "adult" characters have a realistic body design.No they dont.ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: yomachi said: Shiratori99 said: I'm a lolicon and I find children and pubescents sexually attractive. People who fap to loli porn should admit that they are attracted to a child's body. Claiming otherwise is just ridiculous. Just saying. By "child's body", you mean anything that has a resemblance of a child's body including real life children? Shiratori99 said: Where the f* did I say that if you fap to loli porn you go and fuck kids irl? You might've misunderstood Drunk_Samurai. I'm actually thinking you meant that if you fap to loli porn, you probably have the urge to fap to real life children too since you generalized that all loli fappers are attracted to a child's body. I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. IF IRL children had the same body as 2D children then maybe you could be right. No if, they do. Animals,kids,adults nothing is like IRL.If they were then we would have a many times bigger problem with pedophilia than we do now. Nice joke. Imagine all anime characters would be designed with big hairy bodies like chewbacca. Or how about slime blobs? Would you still fap to them? Anime characters are designed to look like humans, they have all the essential parts including the private parts in hentai. |
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Shiratori99 said: ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: YEah of course.Just like "adult" characters have a realistic body design.No they dont.ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: yomachi said: Shiratori99 said: I'm a lolicon and I find children and pubescents sexually attractive. People who fap to loli porn should admit that they are attracted to a child's body. Claiming otherwise is just ridiculous. Just saying. By "child's body", you mean anything that has a resemblance of a child's body including real life children? Shiratori99 said: Where the f* did I say that if you fap to loli porn you go and fuck kids irl? You might've misunderstood Drunk_Samurai. I'm actually thinking you meant that if you fap to loli porn, you probably have the urge to fap to real life children too since you generalized that all loli fappers are attracted to a child's body. I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. IF IRL children had the same body as 2D children then maybe you could be right. No if, they do. Animals,kids,adults nothing is like IRL.If they were then we would have a many times bigger problem with pedophilia than we do now. Nice joke. Imagine all anime characters would be designed with big hairy bodies like chewbacca. Or how about slime blobs? Would you still fap to them? Anime characters are designed to look like humans, they have all the essential parts including the private parts in hentai. Its not about the necessary part its about the details. I have noticed that the more abstract the artstyle on a doujinshi is the more fucked up can the content be and I still get aroused by it. Some western drawn art that are way more realistic are a pretty big cockblock for me. The more they look like humans the less fucked up it can be to still turn me on. And dont use the morals argument cause I dont have any when it comes to fiction. |
baki502Dec 25, 2013 6:04 AM
Shiratori99 said: But they arent realistic.ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: YEah of course.Just like "adult" characters have a realistic body design.No they dont.ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: yomachi said: Shiratori99 said: I'm a lolicon and I find children and pubescents sexually attractive. People who fap to loli porn should admit that they are attracted to a child's body. Claiming otherwise is just ridiculous. Just saying. By "child's body", you mean anything that has a resemblance of a child's body including real life children? Shiratori99 said: Where the f* did I say that if you fap to loli porn you go and fuck kids irl? You might've misunderstood Drunk_Samurai. I'm actually thinking you meant that if you fap to loli porn, you probably have the urge to fap to real life children too since you generalized that all loli fappers are attracted to a child's body. I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. IF IRL children had the same body as 2D children then maybe you could be right. No if, they do. Animals,kids,adults nothing is like IRL.If they were then we would have a many times bigger problem with pedophilia than we do now. Nice joke. Imagine all anime characters would be designed with big hairy bodies like chewbacca. Or how about slime blobs? Would you still fap to them? Anime characters are designed to look like humans, they have all the essential parts including the private parts in hentai. |
baki502 said: Its not about the necessary part its about the details. I have noticed that the more abstract the artstyle on a doujinshi is the more fucked up can the content be and I still get aroused by it. Some western drawn art that are way more realistic are a pretty big cockblock for me. The more they look like humans the less fucked up it can be to still turn me on. And dont use the morals argument cause I dont have any when it comes to fiction. That's just artstyle preference. I don't like realistic artstyles either, but real women still turn me on. And why would I use a moral argument here? I'm a lolicon if you didn't read that. ssjokg said: But they arent realistic.Realistic enough to get aroused by them. |
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Shiratori99 said: ssjokg said: But they arent realistic. Realistic enough to get aroused by them. Thats the total opposite of what you have been saying. What you say here is that somebody will like 2D because they like 3D as well. Just because you find them "realistic" and the same doesnt mean that they are. If you are seeing IRL children when you look at 2D then it's because YOU are sexually attracted.That doesnt mean that everyone else finds children sexually attractive. |
ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: ssjokg said: But they arent realistic. Realistic enough to get aroused by them. Thats the total opposite of what you have been saying. What you say here is that somebody will like 2D because they like 3D as well. Just because you find them "realistic" and the same doesnt mean that they are. If you are seeing IRL children when you look at 2D then it's because YOU are sexually attracted.That doesnt mean that everyone else finds children sexually attractive. Now tell me how that is opposite to what I have been saying. Sigh, again: Sexual instincst are fixated on the human body, especially the reproductive parts. These are well represented in hentai, so people can get aroused by them. What is there not to understand? People being so in denial over it is freaking annoying. It's not the end of the world if you get a boner from children. |
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| So you want me to say that I get a boner from real children even when I dont? Again, not everyone is like you. Also "well represented"?Seriously? |
ssjokg said: So you want me to say that I get a boner from real children even when I dont? Again, not everyone is like you. Also "well represented"?Seriously? Did you watch real child porn and switched off your conscience while doing so? I guess not. You don't even know what you're talking about. |
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Shiratori99 said: Why would I look for child porn?ssjokg said: So you want me to say that I get a boner from real children even when I dont? Again, not everyone is like you. Also "well represented"?Seriously? Did you watch real child porn and switched off your conscience while doing so? I guess not. You don't even know what you're talking about. If I am walking outside and I see a 17,20, or even 40 year old beauty I will "get a boner".I dont need to see them naked or having sex. That,as you say, I have to watch child porn, to realize if I am attracted to children is asinine. |
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ssjokg said: Shiratori99 said: Why would I look for child porn?ssjokg said: So you want me to say that I get a boner from real children even when I dont? Again, not everyone is like you. Also "well represented"?Seriously? Did you watch real child porn and switched off your conscience while doing so? I guess not. You don't even know what you're talking about. If I am walking outside and I see a 17,20, or even 40 year old beauty I will "get a boner".I dont need to see them naked or having sex. That,as you say, I have to watch child porn, to realize if I am attracted to children is asinine. I don't get a boner from "seeing a beauty" or from being near children. Yet I am attracted to women regardless of age including children. So what now? That you watch loli hentai is indication enough that you get a boner from children. |
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Shiratori99 said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Shiratori: Your argument with the body is only a small part of the attraction to lolis, imo. A lot of it is the hentai-typical behaviour, expressions etc... There are also the psychological aspects of being the more mature/experienced person that is part of many lolis, but not something exclusive that only lolis can have, or the physical domination, which can also happen with a small/weak but older girl. You can be attracted/aroused by various aspects of the loli, and only some of them are really exclusive to lolis and therefore mean you're attracted to lolis per se and also woudl be attracted to them in reallife. Someone can watch loli rape because he likes rape, not because he likes lolis, for example. Also there are different chronophilias encompassed by lolis so even if someone is attracted he doesn't need to be a pedophile in the common definition. Someone who is 100% straight and likes rape porn wouldn't get excited by gay rape porn. The same goes for lolis, if you don't find their body attractive in any way you wouldn't get excited by it. I don't believe there is something like 100% straight, 100% gay or 100% pedophile though (not in sexual preferences that is). So you don't have to be a book pedophile who goes for children only in real life. Hold on there. I don't think that whatever chronophilia you prefer is nearly as strong as gender preference. Plus I don't even think you need to be gay to fap to traps or reverse futa rape or a lot of other borderline stuff. I do agree there's no 100%, but 1% is enough to be able to fap to it, but you need way more to actually feel attraction in RL. If you seriously think the sexual act itself is the only thing that matters in rape/porn/hentai/etc... I have to say you're wrong and lack knowledge of the subject. It is a known fact that for many rapists the sexual aspect is pretty irrelevant and they get aroused by the situation of dominance and by inflicting fear into their victims. Being dominant can be more relevant to a sexual act than moving your penis in and out of the vagina. it's also reversable, the thought of being dominated can be just as exciting. I can fap to both, and it doesn't matter who the other party is, a girl, a loli, a trap, a shota, a futa, a man - as long as certain things are fulfilled and the artstyle is nice it doesn't matter because it's all about the kind of interaction they have. For this fetish it doesn't need to matter. Why can't you accept this? I also find Scat porn disgusting and repulsive, but in 2D, in the right context I've encoutnered 2-3 fappable doujins in my life (and countless others I instantly disregarded because of it). Same goes for enemas or bestiality. I'm with baki here, just because I enjoy a bunch of specific fetishes a lot so that I can enjoy them even if the details include some fetishes I hate, doesn't mean I immediately love every fetish that was ever in a series I fapped to. To go back to normal anime for an example, just because the harem aspects don't bother me in a few shows like Clannad or Monogatari, doesn't mean I don't still hate the genre. It really sounds like your sanity depends on the imaginative fact that everyone who even looks at lolis is a pedophile like you say you are, so you can call yourself normal at least in the current context. And to disregard your lazy 'denial' argument: I like lolis because I'm hebephile. But unlike you I don't think pedo- or hebephilia are the only reasons why one would enjoy lolis or fap to them appearing in hentai/doujins. Given the fact that you pretend to know better what goes on in other people's heads than they themselves despite a couple of solid arguments having already been given, it seems to me the one in denial might be you. So stop denying that there are reasons that have nothing to do with the gender/age/looks of a person but that can still play a massive role in the arousal or fapping process. Of course it would mean your lolicon = always pedophile thesis would go down the drain if you accept that. |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Hold on there. I don't think that whatever chronophilia you prefer is nearly as strong as gender preference. Plus I don't even think you need to be gay to fap to traps or reverse futa rape or a lot of other borderline stuff. I do agree there's no 100%, but 1% is enough to be able to fap to it, but you need way more to actually feel attraction in RL. I never said you need to be gay, but you need to feel some attraction to it. Just like you need to have some sexual attraction to children to like loli hentai. Higashi_no_Kaze said: If you seriously think the sexual act itself is the only thing that matters in rape/porn/hentai/etc... I have to say you're wrong and lack knowledge of the subject. It is a known fact that for many rapists the sexual aspect is pretty irrelevant and they get aroused by the situation of dominance and by inflicting fear into their victims. Being dominant can be more relevant to a sexual act than moving your penis in and out of the vagina. it's also reversable, the thought of being dominated can be just as exciting. I can fap to both, and it doesn't matter who the other party is, a girl, a loli, a trap, a shota, a futa, a man - as long as certain things are fulfilled and the artstyle is nice it doesn't matter because it's all about the kind of interaction they have. For this fetish it doesn't need to matter. Why can't you accept this? Even straight masochists don't want to get beaten up by males, they want to get hit by females. Sexual attraction matters to everything related to sexual excitement. If you can fap to men and children, congrats, you just found out you're not 100% straight and have some attraction to children too, even if it's just 10% or w/e! Higashi_no_Kaze said: I also find Scat porn disgusting and repulsive, but in 2D, in the right context I've encoutnered 2-3 fappable doujins in my life (and countless others I instantly disregarded because of it). Same goes for enemas or bestiality. I'm with baki here, just because I enjoy a bunch of specific fetishes a lot so that I can enjoy them even if the details include some fetishes I hate, doesn't mean I immediately love every fetish that was ever in a series I fapped to. To go back to normal anime for an example, just because the harem aspects don't bother me in a few shows like Clannad or Monogatari, doesn't mean I don't still hate the genre. Sexuality is different, you are either attracted or not attracted. If your attraction is 0% you can't fap to it. If you can tolerate it, you are attracted to it. Higashi_no_Kaze said: It really sounds like your sanity depends on the imaginative fact that everyone who even looks at lolis is a pedophile like you say you are, so you can call yourself normal at least in the current context. And to disregard your lazy 'denial' argument: I like lolis because I'm hebephile. But unlike you I don't think pedo- or hebephilia are the only reasons why one would enjoy lolis or fap to them appearing in hentai/doujins. Given the fact that you pretend to know better what goes on in other people's heads than they themselves despite a couple of solid arguments having already been given, it seems to me the one in denial might be you. So stop denying that there are reasons that have nothing to do with the gender/age/looks of a person but that can still play a massive role in the arousal or fapping process. Of course it would mean your lolicon = always pedophile thesis would go down the drain if you accept that. I hate being normal, so no thanks. |
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| Stop arguing with him his view it way to black and white. He doesnt seem to aknowledge that people act on more than on reason at the time, and there might be multiple reasons as to why someone faps to something. Btw one last question. I saw a doujinshi with a doll sized girl once, and I liked it(she was fully developed but only aobut 15cm (6 inch) big). Now tell me does that mean I like children or normal women, since she was tiny but at the same time she had the body proportions o a grown woman. And how would that particular fetish translate into reality where such creatures do not exist? |
| e: Fuck it, not worth it. Have fun with your twisted logic, I won't waste anymore time on throwing arguments against a brick wall. |
AlcoholicideDec 25, 2013 12:47 PM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| he doesn't know the difference between fantasy and reality. dont feed that troll |
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Shiratori99 said: I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. So by that logic if you play violent video games that means you're a violent person. Shiratori99 said: That you watch loli hentai is indication enough that you get a boner from children. Drawings aren't children. |
Drunk_Samurai said: He thinks otherwise.For both.Shiratori99 said: I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. So by that logic if you play violent video games that means you're a violent person. Shiratori99 said: That you watch loli hentai is indication enough that you get a boner from children. Drawings aren't children. |
ssjokg said: Drunk_Samurai said: He thinks otherwise.For both.Shiratori99 said: I didn't misunderstand him. Yeah, I said that if you fap to loli hentai you are sexually attracted to children's bodies including real life children. So if you replace the 2-D loli with a real child and switch off your conscience you would still get a boner. So by that logic if you play violent video games that means you're a violent person. Shiratori99 said: That you watch loli hentai is indication enough that you get a boner from children. Drawings aren't children. I know. He's wrong, simple as that. |
| Hahaha. Feminists. Being party killers since internet was born. |
| "After I finish fucking you. I am going to kill you." |
| there are 5 main audience group who watching anime. Feminists, gays, kids, old people, otaku. Somehow only Otaku get flamed in MAL. Threads like this are rare |
FakePriest said: Drunk_Samurai said: He thinks otherwise.For both.So by that logic if you play violent video games that means you're a violent person. Drawings aren't children. Well while playing violent video games doesn't make you a violent person, it does mean you enjoy violence in a sense. While you may never act on such violence due to morals and guilt, you find violence itself entertaining otherwise you would not be playing violent video games.. |
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| Almost a year later and the feminists bullshit keeps getting bigger and bigger... |
| The debate about the children's image in society and their representation in pornography has nothing to do with feminism. Sankaku are just afraid of the idea that their loli provisions could go down. |
| This thread is still going strong? |
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| AHAHAHAHAHA, this shit is hilarious!! |
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BlueXRam said: FakePriest said: He thinks otherwise.For both. Well while playing violent video games doesn't make you a violent person, it does mean you enjoy violence in a sense. While you may never act on such violence due to morals and guilt, you find violence itself entertaining otherwise you would not be playing violent video games.. You completely missed the point of that post. |
| Loli and shota should be banned. I don't care if the pedophiles in this thread disagree. |
| Sad: Yes. Pathetic: Definitely. Hateful: Not really. Loli and shota are bad for a lot of reasons, but that's not one of them. |
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moonnya said: Did you actually bother digging up this thread to post that?there are 5 main audience group who watching anime. Feminists, gays, kids, old people, otaku. Somehow only Otaku get flamed in MAL. Threads like this are rare Come on, now. Come on. |
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| I don't see why they make a big deal out of it. It is just fiction. I don't see any women losing their rights because of how a character is portrayed. Who cares if the princess is a weak female? Some people like it, so let them enjoy it. If you don't like it then don't watch it! |
Cakedog said: Exactly it is the same in games. They say GTAV makes you a criminal. Well if that is true, then Goat Simulator makes you a goat. And I don't know if they are currently watching me, but I'm definitely not a goat.That's like saying if you like to read rape manga/doujin/comics/whatever you're more likely to go around raping people. I read these things on a weekly basis and have never felt the urge to go around sticking thingies up guys' bungholes. I don't think pedos are into little kids that don't exist; they probably prefer the real thing. Pedos would probably be online trying to chat with little boys or girls or looking up locations of elementary schools and all that creepy stuff. At least that's what the movies tell me. |
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kokkoderrisch said: Loli and shota should be banned. I don't care if the pedophiles in this thread disagree. It will be pretty hard to find a pedophile on this site unless they actually admitted to it. Lilicon and shotacon has nothing to do with pedophilia. Cakedog said: That's like saying if you like to read rape manga/doujin/comics/whatever you're more likely to go around raping people. I read these things on a weekly basis and have never felt the urge to go around sticking thingies up guys' bungholes. I don't think pedos are into little kids that don't exist; they probably prefer the real thing. Pedos would probably be online trying to chat with little boys or girls or looking up locations of elementary schools and all that creepy stuff. At least that's what the movies tell me. This is 100% accurate. Just because you read/play/whatever something doesn't mean you would do the same shit in real life. |
YumeNoMonogatari said: They try to ban lolis, But the age of consent in Japan is 13... ಠ_ಠ lol, idk why I cracked up so hard at this |
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| Extreme feminism at its finest... again. |
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| Feminists are the cancer of this planet so they should be ignored or removed. Yes this comment was meant to offend them. |
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| Time to move on guys... |
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| Everything feminists say should be classified as hate speech. The feminists I've seen are some of the most hateful and belligerent/confrontational people I've ever seen. |
Okiura said: The greatest lie the feminists ever told was that they didn't exist, or had no influence. Please, it's the feminists who got the UN to recognize representations of fictional children as equivalent to real-child pornography. It's the feminists who spurred the redefinition of "child" to ever-older ages and the steady upward ratcheting of the age of consent, all with the goal of criminalizing men and male sexuality.The debate about the children's image in society and their representation in pornography has nothing to do with feminism. Sankaku are just afraid of the idea that their loli provisions could go down. Drunk_Samurai said: This is 100% accurate. Just because you read/play/whatever something doesn't mean you would do the same shit in real life. Indeed, I'm always amused by the double standard that always develops when it comes to 2D: Man with an interest in adult or fully-developed anime girls: "What a sad soul, he's obsessed with his 2D waifus and not giving real women a chance." Man with an interest in lolis: "OMG, child-molesting pedophile on the loose, hide your kids and throw him in jail preemptively!" |
ninjastarforcex said: trying to justify yourself with excuse "its just a drawing picture, animation, so im not pedophile" hahaha There's no justification happening. It's just being accurate. |
zdude18 said: It got to the point where it's acceptable to create pornographic depictions of minors below the age of 10. It's come to a pretty shitty point, really.What the fuck is the world coming to? What do you guys think of this? |
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