rederoin said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: Thats not what nidhogger told me, and i trust him more than you. Fine with me, if you prefer random users over stats. Define your stat parameters. |
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: He doesn't know anything about sales though. The only thing he's good at is giving recommendations to similarly narrow-minded people.rederoin said: Low compared to P1/P2, not low when compared to other series. Its still doing fine for getting P4 animated. Thats not what nidhogger told me, and i trust him more than you. Meanwhile rederoin is talking about stats, something you can't argue with. Everybody can check the stats themselves and see that rederoin is right. SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: Actual, official numbers.Define your stat parameters. |
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: rederoin said: Fine with me, if you prefer random users over stats. Define your stat parameters. http://rederoin.motionsforum.com/t255-rate-of-anime-getting-a-sequel-by-sales |
| Those stats are seriously erratic and all over the place for this year. |
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rederoin said: SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: Define your stat parameters. http://rederoin.motionsforum.com/t255-rate-of-anime-getting-a-sequel-by-sales Except david has said they expect higher sales for SC than the other parts, and they are half as much. This is the most popular part for the most part. I didnt say 10k sales sucked. i said david expects more. Fuck man you dont know everything. |
Ghostbooster said: rederoin said: Sure, you go on believing that. I'm not even going to bother with your bullshit. 1.5-3k - Bad, production will probably lose money 4-5k - Okay, production will recoup investment 8-10k - Good, production will make money 15-20k - Very good, production can make a sequel 30-45k - Amazing, production can make 2-3 sequels Anything above 50k is a potentially money-printing franchise please don't talk in something you don't understand I can't tell if you're a troll or just someone who pays absolutely no attention to anime sales. 10,000 is regarded as an extreme success and is far beyond what's required to justify a sequel for virtually any series. Yowamushi Pedal is getting a sequel after averaging approximately 5,000, Non Non Biyori averaged less than 10,000, and Shin'ya Kawatsura said how thrilled he was with the sales so that they could make a 2nd season, Yama no Susume got a 2nd season after the 1st one averaged 4,300, Sora no Otoshimono got a sequel after the 1st one averaged 5,900, Rinne no Lagrange got a sequel after the 1st season averaged 3,200, Mitsudomoe got a sequel after averaging a mere 2,000, the 2nd season of Genshiken averaged 2,300 and they still made a 3rd, Polygon just ordered a 2nd season of Sidonia ni Kishi after the first several discs averaged around 7,500, Chihayafuru, which looked lavishly expensive to produce, averaged 2,800 and still got a 2-cour sequel, the 1st season of Bakuman barely broke 1,000 and they made 50 more episodes after that based on the strength of the manga sales, and I could just go on and on. None of those shows were massive television hits either, some late-night shows even have to have their studio pay the television station to air them and they receive no advertising revenue. 10,000 is a colossal number. Some of the biggest hits of recent memory, High School DxD, Hidamari Sketch, Yahari, etc., don't average that. |
Winter_Fox_TamiSep 2, 2014 1:20 PM
| you cant attach an arbitrary amount of sales to "getting a second season". Every license costs a different amount. Production costs varying amounts. Producers have different expectations. Get that shit out of here and answer questions based on what you know, not what you think you know from looking at numbers. |
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: you cant attach an arbitrary amount of sales to "getting a second season". Every license costs a different amount. Production costs varying amounts. Producers have different expectations. Get that shit out of here and answer questions based on what you know, not what you think you know from looking at numbers. Like I said, believe what you want to believe. I don't care. SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: Except david has said they expect higher sales for SC than the other parts, and they are half as much. David is just a subcontractor. |
Progeusz said: You set your expectations unreasonably high. What? Not at all that's about what I expected. Still a shame though as I can tell the team really put their creative ambitions into this one and sadly those sorts of things just aren't always rewarded that much in this medium. I still haven't really gotten over what happened with Redline for example. Kaioshin_Sama said: Your definition of "good anime" is messed up. Anime is entertainment. Visual one. If you care about plot or depth of characters/themes more, go read some books instead of bitching all the time that anime oh so surprisingly isn't what it never wanted to be. There's plenty of anime with solid plot, depth, characters and themes at least IMO. Don't sell the medium so short that easily please. I also wasn't bitching at all that I can recall, just being realistic about how sales potentials tend to work. Try not to start fights where there are none to be had all the time. Kaioshin_Sama said: If "safe bet" means "1k or more", then sure. You notice that huge "but" section after where I talked about having to do it right in order for it to work out and there usually being one series that dominates in that regard over others. I think most of them tend to do at least somewhat decently at the very least. I probably shouldn't have said "safe bet" though so much as not as risky as some other avenues of appeal. I kind of forgot that unless your cover your bases 100% and parrot certain opinions and ideas then that means it's an argument with you, Rederoin and the like. Shits getting rather old don't you think? Whatever though I kind of expect it at this rate. Point is I'm trying to get a point across to some people that think it's a matter of simply overall quality and there tastes when really it's just not the case. |
| Nice to see NagiAsu up there :) |
| Well it seems that any series that has sold an average of 9k or above is always 100 percent guaranteed to have a sequel series unless it has a conclusive ending. if that is the case than the series that have aired this years so far they will surely have a continuation this year are: Is this an order of rabbit? 11,629k Haikyuu!! 26,563k Hoozuki no Reitetsu 14,133k JoJo Bizarre Adventures 13,180k Love Live! 2nd season 82,807K Really it's no brainier this one :P The Irregular at Magic High School 12,436K Mekakucity Actors 9,057k No Game No Life 9,325k |
-ShadowClaw- said: Well it seems that any series that has sold an average of 9k or above is always 100 percent guaranteed to have a sequel series unless it has a conclusive ending. if that is the case than the series that have aired this years so far they will surely have a continuation this year are: Is this an order of rabbit? 11,629k Haikyuu!! 26,563k Hoozuki no Reitetsu 14,133k JoJo Bizarre Adventures 13,180k Love Live! 2nd season 82,807K Really it's no brainier this one :P The Irregular at Magic High School 12,436K Mekakucity Actors 9,057k No Game No Life 9,325k There's a chance LL won't get a 3rd season if Muse graduates. |
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| kuroko no basket no surprise there |
-ShadowClaw- said: Well it seems that any series that has sold an average of 9k or above is always 100 percent guaranteed to have a sequel series unless it has a conclusive ending. if that is the case than the series that have aired this years so far they will surely have a continuation this year are: Is this an order of rabbit? 11,629k Haikyuu!! 26,563k Hoozuki no Reitetsu 14,133k JoJo Bizarre Adventures 13,180k Love Live! 2nd season 82,807K Really it's no brainier this one :P The Irregular at Magic High School 12,436K Mekakucity Actors 9,057k No Game No Life 9,325k Just a tip. Don't put it at 100%, it just get your hopes crushed even harder if the manga/LN goes on haitus or when it becomes one of the rare exceptions(I did not check 2005 or before). |
rederoin said: -ShadowClaw- said: Well it seems that any series that has sold an average of 9k or above is always 100 percent guaranteed to have a sequel series unless it has a conclusive ending. if that is the case than the series that have aired this years so far they will surely have a continuation this year are: Is this an order of rabbit? 11,629k Haikyuu!! 26,563k Hoozuki no Reitetsu 14,133k JoJo Bizarre Adventures 13,180k Love Live! 2nd season 82,807K Really it's no brainier this one :P The Irregular at Magic High School 12,436K Mekakucity Actors 9,057k No Game No Life 9,325k Just a tip. Don't put it at 100%, it just get your hopes crushed even harder if the manga/LN goes on haitus or when it becomes one of the rare exceptions(I did not check 2005 or before). yeah you are right well than lets just it is almost guaranteed that they will have more to come, |
| So those are still good sales for Is the order a rabbit? right? I'd so love a second season of that... |
animefan8800 said: So those are still good sales for Is the order a rabbit? right? I'd so love a second season of that... Compared to the average sales of other anime series, They are Top of the Top, A second season or a movie or ova's that would be released in the future are almost garunteed :) P.s i did not watch the series but trust me these sales are season 2 worth |
| Always makes me sad that garbage like Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei sell so much. |
Altruism101 said: Newhopes said: Always makes me sad that garbage like Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei sell so much. The first part of Mahouka anime isn't good compared to light novel true. At least it still sells more than blatant otaku pandering trash like No game no life. At least NGNL is entertaining unlike Mahouka the incest pandering snorefest. |
| Wow the difference between overall sales of Love Live and Haikyuu BD/DVD tho.. O.o GochiUsa and NGNL sales went pretty well there. Btw Mahouka sells really well in Japan, I wonder why? |
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hpulley said: Thanks, fixed.NeoAnkara said: 14. 12,418 *12,418 Hanayamata OP "Hanaha Odori Reya Iroha ni Ho" by Team Hamayamata 16. *8,473 **8,473 Hanayamata ED "Hanayuki" by smileY inc. The sales is better than I though it would be. I'm glad that best OP this season get more recognition. ... (spelled wrong in first entry BTW, it is Team Hanayamata) Meddigo said: Surprised by how low Nozaki-kun ED is, considering it's one of the higher sellers for this season (much higher than Hanayamata at least). And didn't the OP come out as well? Did it honestly sell fewer than 874 copies? The OP did sell, it is just missing here for some reason: *23 *** **5,317 **5,317 **1 Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun OP "Kimi ja Nakya Dame Mitai" (君じゃなきゃダメみたい) by OOISHI Masayoshi (オーイシマサヨシ) |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
Kay_Lite said: Wow the difference between overall sales of Love Live and Haikyuu BD/DVD tho.. O.o GochiUsa and NGNL sales went pretty well there. Btw Mahouka sells really well in Japan, I wonder why? Because the light novel is popular. Collectors would want both. |
| Love Live! ftw! |
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| Freeee!! I'll watch it soon. |
No. that show sucks. |
SolvyTwerk4Jesus said: laldonkaments said: Needs moar luv :( No. that show sucks. Its not because the story sucked, rather it was how it was adapted that truly sucked. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: It's a shame because it's one of the better original series Aniplex has helped produced in a long long time (probably since Shin Sekai Yori) and probably for a long time to come. No hype, no overt pandering and big promises, just a simple 11 episode show that adapts an old story and does so in a surprisingly interesting and memorable way. Aniplex doesn't seem to think Ping Pong will sell here either similar to SSY, since they didn't bother to license them to Aniplex of America. These kinds of shows always seem to be popular on anime websites but when it comes to sales they tank. |
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| Yeah Ping Pong is a manga that finished ages ago, and Shinsekai yori is a novel. |
| There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do. |
| Love Live is killin bitches every time a new volume drops. Now, if only Season 1 would get re-printed in the US. |
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